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Mustafa Rana  
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From: "Mustafa Rana" <mustafa.r...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:39:55 +0400
Local: Fri, Feb 22 2008 7:39 am
Subject: Youtube block ?

Just heard from a source at Paksitan that "Youtube" is being blocked at
Pakistan. There is an unconfirmed news that PTCL has blocked it already &
other providers are being forced to do the same by PTA.

Comments?

Regards,
Mustafa Rana


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Shiraz  
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 More options Feb 22 2008, 7:47 am
From: Shiraz <shira...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:47:45 +0500
Local: Fri, Feb 22 2008 7:47 am
Subject: Re: Youtube block ?

Yes.

On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 5:39 PM, Mustafa Rana <mustafa.r...@gmail.com>
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> Just heard from a source at Paksitan that "Youtube" is being blocked at
> Pakistan. There is an unconfirmed news that PTCL has blocked it already &
> other providers are being forced to do the same by PTA.

> Comments?

> Regards,
> Mustafa Rana

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Masud  
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 More options Feb 22 2008, 7:48 am
From: Masud <masud.r...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 04:48:25 -0800 (PST)
Local: Fri, Feb 22 2008 7:48 am
Subject: Re: Youtube block ?

Yes. It has been blocked.

http://www.masudreza.com/2008/02/pakistan-telecommunications-authorit...

Lets see when it is unblocked :-)

Masud

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Zaeem Arshad  
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 More options Feb 22 2008, 7:48 am
From: "Zaeem Arshad" <zaeem.ars...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:48:58 +0500
Local: Fri, Feb 22 2008 7:48 am
Subject: Re: Youtube block ?

Weird..now that you have mentioned it, I just checked and the trace appears
to stop at PIE with destionation host unreachable. Anybody aware what's the
impetus behind this move?

Regards

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Imtiaz Noor  
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 More options Feb 22 2008, 7:51 am
From: "Imtiaz Noor" <inspi...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:51:27 +0500
Local: Fri, Feb 22 2008 7:51 am
Subject: Re: Youtube block ?

Confirmed....
blocked......but why the hell???

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Amir  
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 More options Feb 22 2008, 7:52 am
From: Amir <amirud...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:52:41 +0500
Local: Fri, Feb 22 2008 7:52 am
Subject: Re: Youtube block ?

This movie has anti-Islamic content. Is there anyway to block the particular
url instead of blocking the whole youtube?

Regards,
Amir

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Mustafa Rana  
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 More options Feb 22 2008, 7:53 am
From: "Mustafa Rana" <mustafa.r...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:53:57 +0400
Local: Fri, Feb 22 2008 7:53 am
Subject: Re: Youtube block ?

As Masud has also mentioned at his blog "Blasphemous" content !!


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Mustafa Rana  
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 More options Feb 22 2008, 7:55 am
From: "Mustafa Rana" <mustafa.r...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:55:06 +0400
Local: Fri, Feb 22 2008 7:55 am
Subject: Re: Youtube block ?

"Content Filtering" but Pakistan lacks the infrastructure !! :-)


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Dr. Awab Alvi  
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 More options Feb 22 2008, 7:55 am
From: "Dr. Awab Alvi" <dra...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 12:55:55 +0000
Local: Fri, Feb 22 2008 7:55 am
Subject: Re: Youtube block ?
I can only speculate why - but its only speculation mind you

From yesterday I have been receiving quite a few links of people claiming to have witnesed vote rigging in karachi and have uploaded the videos on Youtube - I am since yesterday limited to blackberry access since I am in Peshawar (Franctically trying to get online hope to succeed soon )

I have personally not seen the videos but the people have shared a few

Mind you its only speculation as it comes too close to the uploading of the videos - could this be a reason-?

Ouch

Awab


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Shiraz  
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 More options Feb 22 2008, 7:58 am
From: Shiraz <shira...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:58:27 +0500
Local: Fri, Feb 22 2008 7:58 am
Subject: Re: Youtube block ?

PTA has mentioned only 1 IP to be blocked but youtube.com seems to multiple
IPs. PTA has also directed to block the URL within 2 weeks (if operator
currently doesn't have URL blocking feature, they need to get this done in 2
weeks time). Following is excerpt from PTA emails:

*www.youtube.com

IP address of the web site *
*youtube   <----->    208.65.153.238 *
*  *
*DNS *
*DNS1.SJL.YOUTUBE.COM     208.65.152.201
DNS2.SJL.YOUTUBE.COM     208.65.152.137

*
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Mustafa Rana  
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 More options Feb 22 2008, 7:58 am
From: "Mustafa Rana" <mustafa.r...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:58:52 +0400
Local: Fri, Feb 22 2008 7:58 am
Subject: Re: Youtube block ?

Can you share the links on the forum ?

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Dr. Awab Alvi  
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 More options Feb 22 2008, 7:59 am
From: "Dr. Awab Alvi" <dra...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 12:59:11 +0000
Local: Fri, Feb 22 2008 7:59 am
Subject: Re: Youtube block ?
Anti Islamic - I suspect not this could be a cover up for the vote rigging fiasco </speculation>

Ill share the links in a while getting on a computer soon -

Awab


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Mustafa Rana  
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 More options Feb 22 2008, 7:59 am
From: "Mustafa Rana" <mustafa.r...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:59:36 +0400
Local: Fri, Feb 22 2008 7:59 am
Subject: Re: Youtube block ?

Insane :)


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Wasim Baig  
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 More options Feb 22 2008, 8:01 am
From: "Wasim Baig" <wa...@convergence.pk>
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 18:01:27 +0500
Local: Fri, Feb 22 2008 8:01 am
Subject: Re: Youtube block ?

From the emergency-pakistan mailing list ...

The only channel brave enough to play these videos has been Dawn News in
Pakistan.
It would obviously be too much to ask that pro-MQM channels like Geo and ARY
play, or even mention rigging by MQM.

Turn the volume up. Open rigging. 8+ ballot papers being given to EACH MQM
voter, all the votes having the same fingerprint on them!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j444heT4o14

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TPUHHFky38
Listen to the part where the undercover woman says about ID card numbers,
"ID card number koyi bhi daal dein, kis nay check kerna hai?", and the
voting officer says, "Jo kerta hai ker lay check! Hehe!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luPQfvR2R2Y

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbpWPoWeG_g

There are other videos too, but these are enough evidence.

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Mustafa Rana  
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 More options Feb 22 2008, 8:04 am
From: "Mustafa Rana" <mustafa.r...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:04:19 +0400
Local: Fri, Feb 22 2008 8:04 am
Subject: Re: Youtube block ?

Just watching a GEO TV broadcast on Youtube - Fatima Bhutto showing the
Voters list without the NIC numbers ... haha
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iq4sC2Mq85k

Let's see if they block google along with other Search engines also !! lol
;-)


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Murtaza Hussain  
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 More options Feb 22 2008, 7:49 am
From: "Murtaza Hussain" <murtazahma...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:49:44 +0500
Local: Fri, Feb 22 2008 7:49 am
Subject: Re: Youtube block ?

Its working till now, hope this isn't true.

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Masud  
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 More options Feb 22 2008, 8:08 am
From: Masud <masud.r...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 05:08:38 -0800 (PST)
Local: Fri, Feb 22 2008 8:08 am
Subject: Re: Youtube block ?

Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar and numerous others have the infrastructure
for URL filtering. Mostly they block political / religious /
blasphemous / anti-social and any material that does not adhere to the
laws of the land.

I'm against Censorship but in any country where we live, the law of
the land has to be followed. I'd be interested in other people's views
on this.

Masud

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Zaeem Arshad  
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 More options Feb 22 2008, 8:10 am
From: "Zaeem Arshad" <zaeem.ars...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 18:10:38 +0500
Local: Fri, Feb 22 2008 8:10 am
Subject: Re: Youtube block ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3s8jtvvg00

This is the link PTA has asked ISPs to block in their official letter.
PTCL in it's greatest wisdom has blocked the IP. Awesome!!

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Faisal Naik  
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 More options Feb 22 2008, 8:12 am
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Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 18:12:38 +0500
Local: Fri, Feb 22 2008 8:12 am
Subject: Re: Youtube block ?

Cant access it from my network. (ISB-PK)

Regards,

FN

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Dr. Awab Alvi  
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 More options Feb 22 2008, 8:12 am
From: "Dr. Awab Alvi" <dra...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 13:12:35 +0000
Local: Fri, Feb 22 2008 8:12 am
Subject: Re: Youtube block ?
Sorry to be a jerk but what's on this link -

And any copy of the letter/email


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 More options Feb 22 2008, 8:13 am
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Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 18:13:23 +0500
Local: Fri, Feb 22 2008 8:13 am
Subject: Re: Youtube block ?

Some ISPs are said to have received paper based communication from PTA
Peshawer asking for this blockade. Trigger happy PTA has reportedly blocked
the IPs.

-T

p.s: The way PTA works, each region finds it necessary to send out
correspondence to every ISP in the country and finally the PTA HQ again asks
for the same - terrible paper trash generated and the receivers must
respond/reply to each of such letter.

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Uzair Ahmed  
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Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 18:29:40 +0500
Local: Fri, Feb 22 2008 8:29 am
Subject: Re: Youtube block ?
Kitnay URL band karo gay har BLOG say naya URL niklay Ga..........

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Dr. Awab Alvi  
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From: "Dr. Awab Alvi" <dra...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 13:52:06 +0000
Local: Fri, Feb 22 2008 8:52 am
Subject: Re: Youtube block ?
Received this from another mailing list

Idiots are placing the onus on us to unblock the website - playing the previous fiasco as seen in Thailand -- Geez

 Dear Valued Customer:

Pakistan Telecommunication Authority (www.pta.gov.pk <http://www.pta.gov.pk/> ) has directed all ISPs of the country to block access to www.youtube.com <http://www.youtube.com/>  web site for containing blasphemous web content/movies.

The site would remain blocked till further orders from

PTA. Meanwhile, Internet users can write to youtube.com <http://youtube.com>  to remove the objectionable web content/movies because this removal would enable the authorities to order un-blocking of this web site.

We're sorry for any inconvenience.

Best Regards

Manager
Technical Assistance Center
Micronet Broadband Pvt. Ltd.
Islamabad


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Ashar  
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 More options Feb 22 2008, 9:05 am
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Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 19:05:20 +0500
Local: Fri, Feb 22 2008 9:05 am
Subject: Re: Youtube block ?
Geert Wilders - trailer from the anti-quran movie NO FAKE!!!

Saw a bit of it. Its very stupid, ignorant and very offensive....

Ashar

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Dr. Awab Alvi  
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 More options Feb 22 2008, 9:13 am
From: "Dr. Awab Alvi" <dra...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 14:13:13 +0000
Local: Fri, Feb 22 2008 9:13 am
Subject: Re: Youtube block ?
Thank you for the update

Then this is important but are we going to be landed with a wikipedia block considering the rukus on huzoor (pbuh) images

As I can say - the movie trailer was up since long (I assume) and the MQM videos surfaced only yesterday - suspicious

While our mullahs are fishing out of the elections so is PTA being hollier then thou for all this

I suspect ------  yes we can only speculate

Awab


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