I saw this news ticker on Business Plus channel today (14th Nov.) If
this is running on the TV then this news might be confirmed. So what
will be outcome of this deal in near and far future. Please discuss.
On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 8:05 PM, JQ <kaqure...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I saw this news ticker on Business Plus channel today (14th Nov.) If
> this is running on the TV then this news might be confirmed. So what
> will be outcome of this deal in near and far future. Please discuss.
> looks like a lot of people will be looking for jobs again. Especially top
> management, Hope not much of Wateen they are absorbing in
> On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 8:05 PM, JQ <kaqure...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I saw this news ticker on Business Plus channel today (14th Nov.) If
>> this is running on the TV then this news might be confirmed. So what
>> will be outcome of this deal in near and far future. Please discuss.
Aamir, there is no "CONFIRMATION' in unconventional media as well !!! as far
as i know - Yes there is an understanding at higher level between both
managements however the modalities are still being discussed and no decision
has been reached till now.
On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 1:27 PM, aamir attaa <aam...@gmail.com> wrote:
> [Off topic] It is interesting that we still look for confirmations in
> conventional media
> looks like a lot of people will be looking for jobs again. Especially top
>> management, Hope not much of Wateen they are absorbing in
>> On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 8:05 PM, JQ <kaqure...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I saw this news ticker on Business Plus channel today (14th Nov.) If
>>> this is running on the TV then this news might be confirmed. So what
>>> will be outcome of this deal in near and far future. Please discuss.
> Aamir, there is no "CONFIRMATION' in unconventional media as well !!! as
> far as i know - Yes there is an understanding at higher level between both
> managements however the modalities are still being discussed and no decision
> has been reached till now.
> /HS
> On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 1:27 PM, aamir attaa <aam...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> [Off topic] It is interesting that we still look for confirmations in
>> conventional media
>> looks like a lot of people will be looking for jobs again. Especially top
>>> management, Hope not much of Wateen they are absorbing in
>>> On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 8:05 PM, JQ <kaqure...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> I saw this news ticker on Business Plus channel today (14th Nov.) If
>>>> this is running on the TV then this news might be confirmed. So what
>>>> will be outcome of this deal in near and far future. Please discuss.
On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 10:12 PM, aamir attaa <aam...@gmail.com> wrote:
> @ Haris Agreed...
> On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 10:06 PM, Haris Shamsi <haris.sha...@gmail.com>wrote:
>> Aamir, there is no "CONFIRMATION' in unconventional media as well !!! as
>> far as i know - Yes there is an understanding at higher level between both
>> managements however the modalities are still being discussed and no decision
>> has been reached till now.
>> /HS
>> On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 1:27 PM, aamir attaa <aam...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> [Off topic] It is interesting that we still look for confirmations in
>>> conventional media
>>> Regards,
>>> Aamir Attaa
>>> 2009/11/15 Qasim Y. Khan <qa...@qasimkhan.com>
>>> looks like a lot of people will be looking for jobs again. Especially top
>>>> management, Hope not much of Wateen they are absorbing in
>>>> On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 8:05 PM, JQ <kaqure...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> I saw this news ticker on Business Plus channel today (14th Nov.) If
>>>>> this is running on the TV then this news might be confirmed. So what
>>>>> will be outcome of this deal in near and far future. Please discuss.
Actually there are two scenarios for payment, one is through stocks and
other is cash. Abu Dhabi group would not mind off-loading all the 70% stake
in Warid if required to do so. Bank Alfalah definitely gains alot through
this transaction.
If you look at the figures, it turns out to be USD114/Subscriber if its
$1.3B for 63%. Therefore, looking at Ufone, that adds substantially to the
value of PTCL stock. Basically, whether this deal goes through or not, main
thing is to look at Ufone now. Ufone is adding alot of value to PTCL.
Therefore, buy PTCL!
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 10:41 AM, Atif Wajid <atwa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I found a good flash note on it. you may see the attached analysis and
> evaluate the impact.
> Regards/Atif
> On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 10:12 PM, aamir attaa <aam...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> @ Haris Agreed...
>> On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 10:06 PM, Haris Shamsi <haris.sha...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>> Aamir, there is no "CONFIRMATION' in unconventional media as well !!! as
>>> far as i know - Yes there is an understanding at higher level between both
>>> managements however the modalities are still being discussed and no decision
>>> has been reached till now.
>>> /HS
>>> On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 1:27 PM, aamir attaa <aam...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> [Off topic] It is interesting that we still look for confirmations in
>>>> conventional media
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Aamir Attaa
>>>> 2009/11/15 Qasim Y. Khan <qa...@qasimkhan.com>
>>>> looks like a lot of people will be looking for jobs again. Especially
>>>>> top management, Hope not much of Wateen they are absorbing in
>>>>> On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 8:05 PM, JQ <kaqure...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> I saw this news ticker on Business Plus channel today (14th Nov.) If
>>>>>> this is running on the TV then this news might be confirmed. So what
>>>>>> will be outcome of this deal in near and far future. Please discuss.
> Actually there are two scenarios for payment, one is through stocks and
> other is cash. Abu Dhabi group would not mind off-loading all the 70% stake
> in Warid if required to do so. Bank Alfalah definitely gains alot through
> this transaction.
> If you look at the figures, it turns out to be USD114/Subscriber if its
> $1.3B for 63%. Therefore, looking at Ufone, that adds substantially to the
> value of PTCL stock. Basically, whether this deal goes through or not, main
> thing is to look at Ufone now. Ufone is adding alot of value to PTCL.
> Therefore, buy PTCL!
> On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 10:41 AM, Atif Wajid <atwa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I found a good flash note on it. you may see the attached analysis and
>> evaluate the impact.
>> Regards/Atif
>> On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 10:12 PM, aamir attaa <aam...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> @ Haris Agreed...
>>> On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 10:06 PM, Haris Shamsi <haris.sha...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>> Aamir, there is no "CONFIRMATION' in unconventional media as well !!! as
>>>> far as i know - Yes there is an understanding at higher level between both
>>>> managements however the modalities are still being discussed and no decision
>>>> has been reached till now.
>>>> /HS
>>>> On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 1:27 PM, aamir attaa <aam...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> [Off topic] It is interesting that we still look for confirmations in
>>>>> conventional media
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Aamir Attaa
>>>>> 2009/11/15 Qasim Y. Khan <qa...@qasimkhan.com>
>>>>> looks like a lot of people will be looking for jobs again. Especially
>>>>>> top management, Hope not much of Wateen they are absorbing in
>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 8:05 PM, JQ <kaqure...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> I saw this news ticker on Business Plus channel today (14th Nov.) If
>>>>>>> this is running on the TV then this news might be confirmed. So what
>>>>>>> will be outcome of this deal in near and far future. Please discuss.
According to some of the news Channels,Warid Top Management have
denied these News saying that Warid is proud of its services and is
not selling or merging with any operator.
- H.M
On Nov 18, 1:32 pm, Bilal Khan <bkni...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Sheikh Usman N. <usman.nad...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > Actually there are two scenarios for payment, one is through stocks and
> > other is cash. Abu Dhabi group would not mind off-loading all the 70% stake
> > in Warid if required to do so. Bank Alfalah definitely gains alot through
> > this transaction.
> > If you look at the figures, it turns out to be USD114/Subscriber if its
> > $1.3B for 63%. Therefore, looking at Ufone, that adds substantially to the
> > value of PTCL stock. Basically, whether this deal goes through or not, main
> > thing is to look at Ufone now. Ufone is adding alot of value to PTCL.
> > Therefore, buy PTCL!
> > On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 10:41 AM, Atif Wajid <atwa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> I found a good flash note on it. you may see the attached analysis and
> >> evaluate the impact.
> >> Regards/Atif
> >> On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 10:12 PM, aamir attaa <aam...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> @ Haris Agreed...
> >>> On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 10:06 PM, Haris Shamsi <haris.sha...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >>>> Aamir, there is no "CONFIRMATION' in unconventional media as well !!! as
> >>>> far as i know - Yes there is an understanding at higher level between both
> >>>> managements however the modalities are still being discussed and no decision
> >>>> has been reached till now.
> >>>> /HS
> >>>> On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 1:27 PM, aamir attaa <aam...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>> [Off topic] It is interesting that we still look for confirmations in
> >>>>> conventional media
> >>>>> Regards,
> >>>>> Aamir Attaa
> >>>>> 2009/11/15 Qasim Y. Khan <qa...@qasimkhan.com>
> >>>>> looks like a lot of people will be looking for jobs again. Especially
> >>>>>> top management, Hope not much of Wateen they are absorbing in
> >>>>>> On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 8:05 PM, JQ <kaqure...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>> I saw this news ticker on Business Plus channel today (14th Nov.) If
> >>>>>>> this is running on the TV then this news might be confirmed. So what
> >>>>>>> will be outcome of this deal in near and far future. Please discuss.
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 12:14 PM, H.M <humayun.must...@gmail.com> wrote:
> According to some of the news Channels,Warid Top Management have
> denied these News saying that Warid is proud of its services and is
> not selling or merging with any operator.
> - H.M
> On Nov 18, 1:32 pm, Bilal Khan <bkni...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > They have sold Congo and Uganada as well to an Essar Group of India..
> > On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Sheikh Usman N. <
> usman.nad...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > > Actually there are two scenarios for payment, one is through stocks and
> > > other is cash. Abu Dhabi group would not mind off-loading all the 70%
> stake
> > > in Warid if required to do so. Bank Alfalah definitely gains alot
> through
> > > this transaction.
> > > If you look at the figures, it turns out to be USD114/Subscriber if its
> > > $1.3B for 63%. Therefore, looking at Ufone, that adds substantially to
> the
> > > value of PTCL stock. Basically, whether this deal goes through or not,
> main
> > > thing is to look at Ufone now. Ufone is adding alot of value to PTCL.
> > > Therefore, buy PTCL!
> > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 10:41 AM, Atif Wajid <atwa...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >> I found a good flash note on it. you may see the attached analysis and
> > >> evaluate the impact.
> > >> Regards/Atif
> > >> On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 10:12 PM, aamir attaa <aam...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >>> @ Haris Agreed...
> > >>> On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 10:06 PM, Haris Shamsi <
> haris.sha...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > >>>> Aamir, there is no "CONFIRMATION' in unconventional media as well
> !!! as
> > >>>> far as i know - Yes there is an understanding at higher level
> between both
> > >>>> managements however the modalities are still being discussed and no
> decision
> > >>>> has been reached till now.
> > >>>> /HS
> > >>>> On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 1:27 PM, aamir attaa <aam...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >>>>> [Off topic] It is interesting that we still look for confirmations
> in
> > >>>>> conventional media
> > >>>>> Regards,
> > >>>>> Aamir Attaa
> > >>>>> 2009/11/15 Qasim Y. Khan <qa...@qasimkhan.com>
> > >>>>> looks like a lot of people will be looking for jobs again.
> Especially
> > >>>>>> top management, Hope not much of Wateen they are absorbing in
> > >>>>>> On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 8:05 PM, JQ <kaqure...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>>> I saw this news ticker on Business Plus channel today (14th Nov.)
> If
> > >>>>>>> this is running on the TV then this news might be confirmed. So
> what
> > >>>>>>> will be outcome of this deal in near and far future. Please
> discuss.
> If they are so proud, what happened in Congo, Uganda?
> On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 12:14 PM, H.M <humayun.must...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> According to some of the news Channels,Warid Top Management have
>> denied these News saying that Warid is proud of its services and is
>> not selling or merging with any operator.
>> - H.M
>> On Nov 18, 1:32 pm, Bilal Khan <bkni...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > They have sold Congo and Uganada as well to an Essar Group of India..
>> > On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Sheikh Usman N. <
>> usman.nad...@gmail.com>wrote:
>> > > Actually there are two scenarios for payment, one is through stocks
>> and
>> > > other is cash. Abu Dhabi group would not mind off-loading all the 70%
>> stake
>> > > in Warid if required to do so. Bank Alfalah definitely gains alot
>> through
>> > > this transaction.
>> > > If you look at the figures, it turns out to be USD114/Subscriber if
>> its
>> > > $1.3B for 63%. Therefore, looking at Ufone, that adds substantially to
>> the
>> > > value of PTCL stock. Basically, whether this deal goes through or not,
>> main
>> > > thing is to look at Ufone now. Ufone is adding alot of value to PTCL.
>> > > Therefore, buy PTCL!
>> > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 10:41 AM, Atif Wajid <atwa...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > >> I found a good flash note on it. you may see the attached analysis
>> and
>> > >> evaluate the impact.
>> > >> Regards/Atif
>> > >> On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 10:12 PM, aamir attaa <aam...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > >>> @ Haris Agreed...
>> > >>> On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 10:06 PM, Haris Shamsi <
>> haris.sha...@gmail.com>wrote:
>> > >>>> Aamir, there is no "CONFIRMATION' in unconventional media as well
>> !!! as
>> > >>>> far as i know - Yes there is an understanding at higher level
>> between both
>> > >>>> managements however the modalities are still being discussed and no
>> decision
>> > >>>> has been reached till now.
>> > >>>> /HS
>> > >>>> On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 1:27 PM, aamir attaa <aam...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > >>>>> [Off topic] It is interesting that we still look for confirmations
>> in
>> > >>>>> conventional media
>> > >>>>> Regards,
>> > >>>>> Aamir Attaa
>> > >>>>> 2009/11/15 Qasim Y. Khan <qa...@qasimkhan.com>
>> > >>>>> looks like a lot of people will be looking for jobs again.
>> Especially
>> > >>>>>> top management, Hope not much of Wateen they are absorbing in
>> > >>>>>> On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 8:05 PM, JQ <kaqure...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >>>>>>> I saw this news ticker on Business Plus channel today (14th
>> Nov.) If
>> > >>>>>>> this is running on the TV then this news might be confirmed. So
>> what
>> > >>>>>>> will be outcome of this deal in near and far future. Please
>> discuss.
> *
> On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Sheikh Usman N. <usman.nad...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > If they are so proud, what happened in Congo, Uganda?
> > On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 12:14 PM, H.M <humayun.must...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> According to some of the news Channels,Warid Top Management have
> >> denied these News saying that Warid is proud of its services and is
> >> not selling or merging with any operator.
> >> - H.M
> >> On Nov 18, 1:32 pm, Bilal Khan <bkni...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > They have sold Congo and Uganada as well to an Essar Group of India..
> >> > On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Sheikh Usman N. <
> >> usman.nad...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >> > > Actually there are two scenarios for payment, one is through stocks
> >> and
> >> > > other is cash. Abu Dhabi group would not mind off-loading all the 70%
> >> stake
> >> > > in Warid if required to do so. Bank Alfalah definitely gains alot
> >> through
> >> > > this transaction.
> >> > > If you look at the figures, it turns out to be USD114/Subscriber if
> >> its
> >> > > $1.3B for 63%. Therefore, looking at Ufone, that adds substantially to
> >> the
> >> > > value of PTCL stock. Basically, whether this deal goes through or not,
> >> main
> >> > > thing is to look at Ufone now. Ufone is adding alot of value to PTCL.
> >> > > Therefore, buy PTCL!
> >> > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 10:41 AM, Atif Wajid <atwa...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > >> I found a good flash note on it. you may see the attached analysis
> >> and
> >> > >> evaluate the impact.
> >> > >> Regards/Atif
> >> > >> On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 10:12 PM, aamir attaa <aam...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > >>> @ Haris Agreed...
> >> > >>> On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 10:06 PM, Haris Shamsi <
> >> haris.sha...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >> > >>>> Aamir, there is no "CONFIRMATION' in unconventional media as well
> >> !!! as
> >> > >>>> far as i know - Yes there is an understanding at higher level
> >> between both
> >> > >>>> managements however the modalities are still being discussed and no
> >> decision
> >> > >>>> has been reached till now.
> >> > >>>> /HS
> >> > >>>> On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 1:27 PM, aamir attaa <aam...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > >>>>> [Off topic] It is interesting that we still look for confirmations
> >> in
> >> > >>>>> conventional media
> >> > >>>>> Regards,
> >> > >>>>> Aamir Attaa
> >> > >>>>> 2009/11/15 Qasim Y. Khan <qa...@qasimkhan.com>
> >> > >>>>> looks like a lot of people will be looking for jobs again.
> >> Especially
> >> > >>>>>> top management, Hope not much of Wateen they are absorbing in
> >> > >>>>>> On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 8:05 PM, JQ <kaqure...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > >>>>>>> I saw this news ticker on Business Plus channel today (14th
> >> Nov.) If
> >> > >>>>>>> this is running on the TV then this news might be confirmed. So
> >> what
> >> > >>>>>>> will be outcome of this deal in near and far future. Please
> >> discuss.
> >> > >>>>>>> JQ
> >> > >>> --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~
> >> > >>> Manage your subscription:
> >> > >>>http://groups.google.com/group/telecom-grid-pakistan > >> > >>> Browse and populate the community wiki at:http://wiki.telecompk.net > >> > >>> -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
I think there will be some consolidation in the industry. It can be either
Warid + Telenor or any other combination. I wounder if any two players
decide to merge than how Competition Commission of Pakistan or PTA is
likely to react to protect consumers.
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 9:59 AM, H.M <humayun.must...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Usman - I think they said it for Pakistan and Warid Pakistan Top
> Management gave this statement and not Warid Abu Dhabi.
> Personally speaking there is no reason why Warid would sell to
> Telenor,they have already sold stakes to Singtel which is more than
> enough for them.
> - H.M
> On Nov 19, 10:49 pm, aamir attaa <aam...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > *Following report says: Telenor open for in-market consolidation in
> Pakistan
> > *
> > On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Sheikh Usman N. <
> usman.nad...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > > If they are so proud, what happened in Congo, Uganda?
> > > On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 12:14 PM, H.M <humayun.must...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >> According to some of the news Channels,Warid Top Management have
> > >> denied these News saying that Warid is proud of its services and is
> > >> not selling or merging with any operator.
> > >> - H.M
> > >> On Nov 18, 1:32 pm, Bilal Khan <bkni...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> > They have sold Congo and Uganada as well to an Essar Group of
> India..
> > >> > On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Sheikh Usman N. <
> > >> usman.nad...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > >> > > Actually there are two scenarios for payment, one is through
> stocks
> > >> and
> > >> > > other is cash. Abu Dhabi group would not mind off-loading all the
> 70%
> > >> stake
> > >> > > in Warid if required to do so. Bank Alfalah definitely gains alot
> > >> through
> > >> > > this transaction.
> > >> > > If you look at the figures, it turns out to be USD114/Subscriber
> if
> > >> its
> > >> > > $1.3B for 63%. Therefore, looking at Ufone, that adds
> substantially to
> > >> the
> > >> > > value of PTCL stock. Basically, whether this deal goes through or
> not,
> > >> main
> > >> > > thing is to look at Ufone now. Ufone is adding alot of value to
> PTCL.
> > >> > > Therefore, buy PTCL!
> > >> > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 10:41 AM, Atif Wajid <atwa...@gmail.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >> > >> I found a good flash note on it. you may see the attached
> analysis
> > >> and
> > >> > >> evaluate the impact.
> > >> > >> Regards/Atif
> > >> > >> On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 10:12 PM, aamir attaa <
> aam...@gmail.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >> > >>> @ Haris Agreed...
> > >> > >>> On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 10:06 PM, Haris Shamsi <
> > >> haris.sha...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > >> > >>>> Aamir, there is no "CONFIRMATION' in unconventional media as
> well
> > >> !!! as
> > >> > >>>> far as i know - Yes there is an understanding at higher level
> > >> between both
> > >> > >>>> managements however the modalities are still being discussed
> and no
> > >> decision
> > >> > >>>> has been reached till now.
> > >> > >>>> /HS
> > >> > >>>> On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 1:27 PM, aamir attaa <aam...@gmail.com
> > >> wrote:
> > >> > >>>>> [Off topic] It is interesting that we still look for
> confirmations
> > >> in
> > >> > >>>>> conventional media
> > >> > >>>>> 2009/11/15 Qasim Y. Khan <qa...@qasimkhan.com>
> > >> > >>>>> looks like a lot of people will be looking for jobs again.
> > >> Especially
> > >> > >>>>>> top management, Hope not much of Wateen they are absorbing in
> > >> > >>>>>> On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 8:05 PM, JQ <kaqure...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >> > >>>>>>> I saw this news ticker on Business Plus channel today (14th
> > >> Nov.) If
> > >> > >>>>>>> this is running on the TV then this news might be confirmed.
> So
> > >> what
> > >> > >>>>>>> will be outcome of this deal in near and far future. Please
> > >> discuss.
> > >> > >>>>>>> JQ
> > >> > >>> --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~
> > >> > >>> Manage your subscription:
> > >> > >>>http://groups.google.com/group/telecom-grid-pakistan > > >> > >>> Browse and populate the community wiki at:
> http://wiki.telecompk.net > > >> > >>> -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
> If they are so proud, what happened in Congo, Uganda?
> On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 12:14 PM, H.M <humayun.must...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> According to some of the news Channels,Warid Top Management have
>> denied these News saying that Warid is proud of its services and is
>> not selling or merging with any operator.
>> - H.M
>> On Nov 18, 1:32 pm, Bilal Khan <bkni...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > They have sold Congo and Uganada as well to an Essar Group of India..
>> > On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Sheikh Usman N. <
>> usman.nad...@gmail.com>wrote:
>> > > Actually there are two scenarios for payment, one is through stocks
>> and
>> > > other is cash. Abu Dhabi group would not mind off-loading all the 70%
>> stake
>> > > in Warid if required to do so. Bank Alfalah definitely gains alot
>> through
>> > > this transaction.
>> > > If you look at the figures, it turns out to be USD114/Subscriber if
>> its
>> > > $1.3B for 63%. Therefore, looking at Ufone, that adds substantially to
>> the
>> > > value of PTCL stock. Basically, whether this deal goes through or not,
>> main
>> > > thing is to look at Ufone now. Ufone is adding alot of value to PTCL.
>> > > Therefore, buy PTCL!
>> > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 10:41 AM, Atif Wajid <atwa...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > >> I found a good flash note on it. you may see the attached analysis
>> and
>> > >> evaluate the impact.
>> > >> Regards/Atif
>> > >> On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 10:12 PM, aamir attaa <aam...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > >>> @ Haris Agreed...
>> > >>> On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 10:06 PM, Haris Shamsi <
>> haris.sha...@gmail.com>wrote:
>> > >>>> Aamir, there is no "CONFIRMATION' in unconventional media as well
>> !!! as
>> > >>>> far as i know - Yes there is an understanding at higher level
>> between both
>> > >>>> managements however the modalities are still being discussed and no
>> decision
>> > >>>> has been reached till now.
>> > >>>> /HS
>> > >>>> On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 1:27 PM, aamir attaa <aam...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > >>>>> [Off topic] It is interesting that we still look for confirmations
>> in
>> > >>>>> conventional media
>> > >>>>> Regards,
>> > >>>>> Aamir Attaa
>> > >>>>> 2009/11/15 Qasim Y. Khan <qa...@qasimkhan.com>
>> > >>>>> looks like a lot of people will be looking for jobs again.
>> Especially
>> > >>>>>> top management, Hope not much of Wateen they are absorbing in
>> > >>>>>> On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 8:05 PM, JQ <kaqure...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >>>>>>> I saw this news ticker on Business Plus channel today (14th
>> Nov.) If
>> > >>>>>>> this is running on the TV then this news might be confirmed. So
>> what
>> > >>>>>>> will be outcome of this deal in near and far future. Please
>> discuss.
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Muhammad Asif <asif...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I think there will be some consolidation in the industry. It can be either
> Warid + Telenor or any other combination. I wounder if any two players
> decide to merge than how Competition Commission of Pakistan or PTA is
> likely to react to protect consumers.
> regards,
> MA
> On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 9:59 AM, H.M <humayun.must...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Usman - I think they said it for Pakistan and Warid Pakistan Top
>> Management gave this statement and not Warid Abu Dhabi.
>> Personally speaking there is no reason why Warid would sell to
>> Telenor,they have already sold stakes to Singtel which is more than
>> enough for them.
>> - H.M
>> On Nov 19, 10:49 pm, aamir attaa <aam...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > *Following report says: Telenor open for in-market consolidation in
>> Pakistan
>> > *
>> > On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Sheikh Usman N. <
>> usman.nad...@gmail.com>wrote:
>> > > If they are so proud, what happened in Congo, Uganda?
>> > > On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 12:14 PM, H.M <humayun.must...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > >> According to some of the news Channels,Warid Top Management have
>> > >> denied these News saying that Warid is proud of its services and is
>> > >> not selling or merging with any operator.
>> > >> - H.M
>> > >> On Nov 18, 1:32 pm, Bilal Khan <bkni...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >> > They have sold Congo and Uganada as well to an Essar Group of
>> India..
>> > >> > On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Sheikh Usman N. <
>> > >> usman.nad...@gmail.com>wrote:
>> > >> > > Actually there are two scenarios for payment, one is through
>> stocks
>> > >> and
>> > >> > > other is cash. Abu Dhabi group would not mind off-loading all the
>> 70%
>> > >> stake
>> > >> > > in Warid if required to do so. Bank Alfalah definitely gains alot
>> > >> through
>> > >> > > this transaction.
>> > >> > > If you look at the figures, it turns out to be USD114/Subscriber
>> if
>> > >> its
>> > >> > > $1.3B for 63%. Therefore, looking at Ufone, that adds
>> substantially to
>> > >> the
>> > >> > > value of PTCL stock. Basically, whether this deal goes through or
>> not,
>> > >> main
>> > >> > > thing is to look at Ufone now. Ufone is adding alot of value to
>> PTCL.
>> > >> > > Therefore, buy PTCL!
>> > >> > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 10:41 AM, Atif Wajid <atwa...@gmail.com>
>> > >> wrote:
>> > >> > >> I found a good flash note on it. you may see the attached
>> analysis
>> > >> and
>> > >> > >> evaluate the impact.
>> > >> > >> Regards/Atif
>> > >> > >> On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 10:12 PM, aamir attaa <
>> aam...@gmail.com>
>> > >> wrote:
>> > >> > >>> @ Haris Agreed...
>> > >> > >>> On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 10:06 PM, Haris Shamsi <
>> > >> haris.sha...@gmail.com>wrote:
>> > >> > >>>> Aamir, there is no "CONFIRMATION' in unconventional media as
>> well
>> > >> !!! as
>> > >> > >>>> far as i know - Yes there is an understanding at higher level
>> > >> between both
>> > >> > >>>> managements however the modalities are still being discussed
>> and no
>> > >> decision
>> > >> > >>>> has been reached till now.
>> > >> > >>>> /HS
>> > >> > >>>> On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 1:27 PM, aamir attaa <
>> aam...@gmail.com>
>> > >> wrote:
>> > >> > >>>>> [Off topic] It is interesting that we still look for
>> confirmations
>> > >> in
>> > >> > >>>>> conventional media
>> > >> > >>>>> 2009/11/15 Qasim Y. Khan <qa...@qasimkhan.com>
>> > >> > >>>>> looks like a lot of people will be looking for jobs again.
>> > >> Especially
>> > >> > >>>>>> top management, Hope not much of Wateen they are absorbing
>> in
>> > >> > >>>>>> On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 8:05 PM, JQ <kaqure...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > >> > >>>>>>> I saw this news ticker on Business Plus channel today (14th
>> > >> Nov.) If
>> > >> > >>>>>>> this is running on the TV then this news might be
>> confirmed. So
>> > >> what
>> > >> > >>>>>>> will be outcome of this deal in near and far future. Please
>> > >> discuss.
>> > >> > >>>>>>> JQ
>> > >> > >>> --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~
>> > >> > >>> Manage your subscription:
>> > >> > >>>http://groups.google.com/group/telecom-grid-pakistan >> > >> > >>> Browse and populate the community wiki at:
>> http://wiki.telecompk.net >> > >> > >>> -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
*Lahore:* Warid Telecom (Pvt.) Ltd. is a leading telecom company in Pakistan
that is recognized as the most reliable and steadfast telecom operator.
Warid Telecom has issued an official statement in response to the rumor on
‘Warid Telecom Merger’. The statement endorses the un-authenticity of the
news circulated in the media and it explains clearly that no such
information is issued by the company Management. Warid Telecom is a
responsible organization that always keep the public update on any
developments. (PR).
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 3:59 PM, Inspirex <inspi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The Competition Commission of Pakistan is on its way out...cartels will
> reign supreme!
> On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Muhammad Asif <asif...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I think there will be some consolidation in the industry. It can be either
>> Warid + Telenor or any other combination. I wounder if any two players
>> decide to merge than how Competition Commission of Pakistan or PTA is
>> likely to react to protect consumers.
>> regards,
>> MA
>> On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 9:59 AM, H.M <humayun.must...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Usman - I think they said it for Pakistan and Warid Pakistan Top
>>> Management gave this statement and not Warid Abu Dhabi.
>>> Personally speaking there is no reason why Warid would sell to
>>> Telenor,they have already sold stakes to Singtel which is more than
>>> enough for them.
>>> - H.M
>>> On Nov 19, 10:49 pm, aamir attaa <aam...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > *Following report says: Telenor open for in-market consolidation in
>>> Pakistan
>>> > *
>>> > On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Sheikh Usman N. <
>>> usman.nad...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>> > > If they are so proud, what happened in Congo, Uganda?
>>> > > On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 12:14 PM, H.M <humayun.must...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > >> According to some of the news Channels,Warid Top Management have
>>> > >> denied these News saying that Warid is proud of its services and is
>>> > >> not selling or merging with any operator.
>>> > >> - H.M
>>> > >> On Nov 18, 1:32 pm, Bilal Khan <bkni...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > >> > They have sold Congo and Uganada as well to an Essar Group of
>>> India..
>>> > >> > On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Sheikh Usman N. <
>>> > >> usman.nad...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>> > >> > > Actually there are two scenarios for payment, one is through
>>> stocks
>>> > >> and
>>> > >> > > other is cash. Abu Dhabi group would not mind off-loading all
>>> the 70%
>>> > >> stake
>>> > >> > > in Warid if required to do so. Bank Alfalah definitely gains
>>> alot
>>> > >> through
>>> > >> > > this transaction.
>>> > >> > > If you look at the figures, it turns out to be USD114/Subscriber
>>> if
>>> > >> its
>>> > >> > > $1.3B for 63%. Therefore, looking at Ufone, that adds
>>> substantially to
>>> > >> the
>>> > >> > > value of PTCL stock. Basically, whether this deal goes through
>>> or not,
>>> > >> main
>>> > >> > > thing is to look at Ufone now. Ufone is adding alot of value to
>>> PTCL.
>>> > >> > > Therefore, buy PTCL!
>>> > >> > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 10:41 AM, Atif Wajid <atwa...@gmail.com
>>> > >> wrote:
>>> > >> > >> I found a good flash note on it. you may see the attached
>>> analysis
>>> > >> and
>>> > >> > >> evaluate the impact.
>>> > >> > >> Regards/Atif
>>> > >> > >> On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 10:12 PM, aamir attaa <
>>> aam...@gmail.com>
>>> > >> wrote:
>>> > >> > >>> @ Haris Agreed...
>>> > >> > >>> On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 10:06 PM, Haris Shamsi <
>>> > >> haris.sha...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>> > >> > >>>> Aamir, there is no "CONFIRMATION' in unconventional media as
>>> well
>>> > >> !!! as
>>> > >> > >>>> far as i know - Yes there is an understanding at higher level
>>> > >> between both
>>> > >> > >>>> managements however the modalities are still being discussed
>>> and no
>>> > >> decision
>>> > >> > >>>> has been reached till now.
>>> > >> > >>>> /HS
>>> > >> > >>>> On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 1:27 PM, aamir attaa <
>>> aam...@gmail.com>
>>> > >> wrote:
>>> > >> > >>>>> [Off topic] It is interesting that we still look for
>>> confirmations
>>> > >> in
>>> > >> > >>>>> conventional media
>>> > >> > >>>>> 2009/11/15 Qasim Y. Khan <qa...@qasimkhan.com>
>>> > >> > >>>>> looks like a lot of people will be looking for jobs again.
>>> > >> Especially
>>> > >> > >>>>>> top management, Hope not much of Wateen they are absorbing
>>> in
>>> > >> > >>>>>> On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 8:05 PM, JQ <kaqure...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > >> > >>>>>>> I saw this news ticker on Business Plus channel today
>>> (14th
>>> > >> Nov.) If
>>> > >> > >>>>>>> this is running on the TV then this news might be
>>> confirmed. So
>>> > >> what
>>> > >> > >>>>>>> will be outcome of this deal in near and far future.
>>> Please
>>> > >> discuss.
>>> > >> > >>>>>>> JQ
>>> > >> > >>> --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~
>>> > >> > >>> Manage your subscription:
>>> > >> > >>>http://groups.google.com/group/telecom-grid-pakistan >>> > >> > >>> Browse and populate the community wiki at:
>>> http://wiki.telecompk.net >>> > >> > >>> -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
> *Lahore:* Warid Telecom (Pvt.) Ltd. is a leading telecom company in
> Pakistan that is recognized as the most reliable and steadfast telecom
> operator. Warid Telecom has issued an official statement in response to the
> rumor on ‘Warid Telecom Merger’. The statement endorses the un-authenticity
> of the news circulated in the media and it explains clearly that no such
> information is issued by the company Management. Warid Telecom is a
> responsible organization that always keep the public update on any
> developments. (PR).
> On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 3:59 PM, Inspirex <inspi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> The Competition Commission of Pakistan is on its way out...cartels will
>> reign supreme!
>> On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Muhammad Asif <asif...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>> I think there will be some consolidation in the industry. It can be
>>> either Warid + Telenor or any other combination. I wounder if any two
>>> players decide to merge than how Competition Commission of Pakistan or PTA
>>> is likely to react to protect consumers.
>>> regards,
>>> MA
>>> On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 9:59 AM, H.M <humayun.must...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Usman - I think they said it for Pakistan and Warid Pakistan Top
>>>> Management gave this statement and not Warid Abu Dhabi.
>>>> Personally speaking there is no reason why Warid would sell to
>>>> Telenor,they have already sold stakes to Singtel which is more than
>>>> enough for them.
>>>> - H.M
>>>> On Nov 19, 10:49 pm, aamir attaa <aam...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > *Following report says: Telenor open for in-market consolidation in
>>>> Pakistan
>>>> > *
>>>> > On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Sheikh Usman N. <
>>>> usman.nad...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>> > > If they are so proud, what happened in Congo, Uganda?
>>>> > > On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 12:14 PM, H.M <humayun.must...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > >> According to some of the news Channels,Warid Top Management have
>>>> > >> denied these News saying that Warid is proud of its services and is
>>>> > >> not selling or merging with any operator.
>>>> > >> - H.M
>>>> > >> On Nov 18, 1:32 pm, Bilal Khan <bkni...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > >> > They have sold Congo and Uganada as well to an Essar Group of
>>>> India..
>>>> > >> > On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Sheikh Usman N. <
>>>> > >> usman.nad...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>> > >> > > Actually there are two scenarios for payment, one is through
>>>> stocks
>>>> > >> and
>>>> > >> > > other is cash. Abu Dhabi group would not mind off-loading all
>>>> the 70%
>>>> > >> stake
>>>> > >> > > in Warid if required to do so. Bank Alfalah definitely gains
>>>> alot
>>>> > >> through
>>>> > >> > > this transaction.
>>>> > >> > > If you look at the figures, it turns out to be
>>>> USD114/Subscriber if
>>>> > >> its
>>>> > >> > > $1.3B for 63%. Therefore, looking at Ufone, that adds
>>>> substantially to
>>>> > >> the
>>>> > >> > > value of PTCL stock. Basically, whether this deal goes through
>>>> or not,
>>>> > >> main
>>>> > >> > > thing is to look at Ufone now. Ufone is adding alot of value to
>>>> PTCL.
>>>> > >> > > Therefore, buy PTCL!
>>>> > >> > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 10:41 AM, Atif Wajid <
>>>> atwa...@gmail.com>
>>>> > >> wrote:
>>>> > >> > >> I found a good flash note on it. you may see the attached
>>>> analysis
>>>> > >> and
>>>> > >> > >> evaluate the impact.
>>>> > >> > >> Regards/Atif
>>>> > >> > >> On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 10:12 PM, aamir attaa <
>>>> aam...@gmail.com>
>>>> > >> wrote:
>>>> > >> > >>> @ Haris Agreed...
>>>> > >> > >>> On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 10:06 PM, Haris Shamsi <
>>>> > >> haris.sha...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>> > >> > >>>> Aamir, there is no "CONFIRMATION' in unconventional media as
>>>> well
>>>> > >> !!! as
>>>> > >> > >>>> far as i know - Yes there is an understanding at higher
>>>> level
>>>> > >> between both
>>>> > >> > >>>> managements however the modalities are still being discussed
>>>> and no
>>>> > >> decision
>>>> > >> > >>>> has been reached till now.
>>>> > >> > >>>> /HS
>>>> > >> > >>>> On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 1:27 PM, aamir attaa <
>>>> aam...@gmail.com>
>>>> > >> wrote:
>>>> > >> > >>>>> [Off topic] It is interesting that we still look for
>>>> confirmations
>>>> > >> in
>>>> > >> > >>>>> conventional media
>>>> > >> > >>>>> 2009/11/15 Qasim Y. Khan <qa...@qasimkhan.com>
>>>> > >> > >>>>> looks like a lot of people will be looking for jobs again.
>>>> > >> Especially
>>>> > >> > >>>>>> top management, Hope not much of Wateen they are absorbing
>>>> in
>>>> > >> > >>>>>> On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 8:05 PM, JQ <kaqure...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > >> > >>>>>>> I saw this news ticker on Business Plus channel today
>>>> (14th
>>>> > >> Nov.) If
>>>> > >> > >>>>>>> this is running on the TV then this news might be
>>>> confirmed. So
>>>> > >> what
>>>> > >> > >>>>>>> will be outcome of this deal in near and far future.
>>>> Please
>>>> > >> discuss.
>>>> > >> > >>>>>>> JQ
>>>> > >> > >>> --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~
>>>> > >> > >>> Manage your subscription:
>>>> > >> > >>>http://groups.google.com/group/telecom-grid-pakistan >>>> > >> > >>> Browse and populate the community wiki at:
>>>> http://wiki.telecompk.net >>>> > >> > >>> -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
>>>> > >> > > "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight
>>>> with
>>>> > >> you,
>>>> > >> > > then you win"
>>>> > >> > > -Gandhi
Well ... lets see ... Warid has come out with a statement does hold some
worth, but its important to see that they've just offloaded 51% stake in
their African operations. Perhaps, it has gained space and time for the next
buyout. However, there are many reasons to believe Warid's buyout.
Consolidation is due in Pakistani market. Telenor has launched Easypaisa and
is broadening its base/scope with every passing day which is a clear signal
they are in no mood to quit. Warid has had many problems both financially
and in terms of a proper management. Wateen's CEO recently stated they are
going for IPO which means Abu Dhabi group is no longer ready to inject
equity in it. We cannot predict, but there are signs for Warid in trouble
...
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 5:02 PM, Inspirex <inspi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> This is what happens when people talk sitting "at" the audience and not
> "to" the audience.
> Sad.
> On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Muhammed Nasrullah <nasrul...@gmail.com>wrote:
>> Whats with the inability of PR to speak straight? Check out how they say
>> "there's no telenor-warid deal":
>> *Lahore:* Warid Telecom (Pvt.) Ltd. is a leading telecom company in
>> Pakistan that is recognized as the most reliable and steadfast telecom
>> operator. Warid Telecom has issued an official statement in response to the
>> rumor on ‘Warid Telecom Merger’. The statement endorses the un-authenticity
>> of the news circulated in the media and it explains clearly that no such
>> information is issued by the company Management. Warid Telecom is a
>> responsible organization that always keep the public update on any
>> developments. (PR).
>> On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 3:59 PM, Inspirex <inspi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> The Competition Commission of Pakistan is on its way out...cartels will
>>> reign supreme!
>>> On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Muhammad Asif <asif...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>> I think there will be some consolidation in the industry. It can be
>>>> either Warid + Telenor or any other combination. I wounder if any two
>>>> players decide to merge than how Competition Commission of Pakistan or PTA
>>>> is likely to react to protect consumers.
>>>> regards,
>>>> MA
>>>> On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 9:59 AM, H.M <humayun.must...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Usman - I think they said it for Pakistan and Warid Pakistan Top
>>>>> Management gave this statement and not Warid Abu Dhabi.
>>>>> Personally speaking there is no reason why Warid would sell to
>>>>> Telenor,they have already sold stakes to Singtel which is more than
>>>>> enough for them.
>>>>> - H.M
>>>>> On Nov 19, 10:49 pm, aamir attaa <aam...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> > *Following report says: Telenor open for in-market consolidation in
>>>>> Pakistan
>>>>> > *
>>>>> > On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Sheikh Usman N. <
>>>>> usman.nad...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>> > > If they are so proud, what happened in Congo, Uganda?
>>>>> > > On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 12:14 PM, H.M <humayun.must...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> > >> According to some of the news Channels,Warid Top Management have
>>>>> > >> denied these News saying that Warid is proud of its services and
>>>>> is
>>>>> > >> not selling or merging with any operator.
>>>>> > >> - H.M
>>>>> > >> On Nov 18, 1:32 pm, Bilal Khan <bkni...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> > >> > They have sold Congo and Uganada as well to an Essar Group of
>>>>> India..
>>>>> > >> > On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Sheikh Usman N. <
>>>>> > >> usman.nad...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>> > >> > > Actually there are two scenarios for payment, one is through
>>>>> stocks
>>>>> > >> and
>>>>> > >> > > other is cash. Abu Dhabi group would not mind off-loading all
>>>>> the 70%
>>>>> > >> stake
>>>>> > >> > > in Warid if required to do so. Bank Alfalah definitely gains
>>>>> alot
>>>>> > >> through
>>>>> > >> > > this transaction.
>>>>> > >> > > If you look at the figures, it turns out to be
>>>>> USD114/Subscriber if
>>>>> > >> its
>>>>> > >> > > $1.3B for 63%. Therefore, looking at Ufone, that adds
>>>>> substantially to
>>>>> > >> the
>>>>> > >> > > value of PTCL stock. Basically, whether this deal goes through
>>>>> or not,
>>>>> > >> main
>>>>> > >> > > thing is to look at Ufone now. Ufone is adding alot of value
>>>>> to PTCL.
>>>>> > >> > > Therefore, buy PTCL!
>>>>> > >> > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 10:41 AM, Atif Wajid <
>>>>> atwa...@gmail.com>
>>>>> > >> wrote:
>>>>> > >> > >> I found a good flash note on it. you may see the attached
>>>>> analysis
>>>>> > >> and
>>>>> > >> > >> evaluate the impact.
>>>>> > >> > >> Regards/Atif
>>>>> > >> > >> On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 10:12 PM, aamir attaa <
>>>>> aam...@gmail.com>
>>>>> > >> wrote:
>>>>> > >> > >>> @ Haris Agreed...
>>>>> > >> > >>> On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 10:06 PM, Haris Shamsi <
>>>>> > >> haris.sha...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>> > >> > >>>> Aamir, there is no "CONFIRMATION' in unconventional media
>>>>> as well
>>>>> > >> !!! as
>>>>> > >> > >>>> far as i know - Yes there is an understanding at higher
>>>>> level
>>>>> > >> between both
>>>>> > >> > >>>> managements however the modalities are still being
>>>>> discussed and no
>>>>> > >> decision
>>>>> > >> > >>>> has been reached till now.
>>>>> > >> > >>>> /HS
>>>>> > >> > >>>> On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 1:27 PM, aamir attaa <
>>>>> aam...@gmail.com>
>>>>> > >> wrote:
>>>>> > >> > >>>>> [Off topic] It is interesting that we still look for
>>>>> confirmations
>>>>> > >> in
>>>>> > >> > >>>>> conventional media
>>>>> > >> > >>>>> 2009/11/15 Qasim Y. Khan <qa...@qasimkhan.com>
>>>>> > >> > >>>>> looks like a lot of people will be looking for jobs again.
>>>>> > >> Especially
>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> top management, Hope not much of Wateen they are
>>>>> absorbing in
>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 8:05 PM, JQ <kaqure...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>> I saw this news ticker on Business Plus channel today
>>>>> (14th
>>>>> > >> Nov.) If
>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>> this is running on the TV then this news might be
>>>>> confirmed. So
>>>>> > >> what
>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>> will be outcome of this deal in near and far future.
>>>>> Please
>>>>> > >> discuss.
>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>> JQ
>>>>> > >> > >>> --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~
>>>>> > >> > >>> Manage your subscription:
>>>>> > >> > >>>http://groups.google.com/group/telecom-grid-pakistan >>>>> > >> > >>> Browse and populate the community wiki at:
>>>>> http://wiki.telecompk.net >>>>> > >> > >>> -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
>>>>> > >> > > "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they
>>>>> fight with
>>>>> > >> you,
>>>>> > >> > > then you win"
>>>>> > >> > > -Gandhi
> Well ... lets see ... Warid has come out with a statement does hold some
> worth, but its important to see that they've just offloaded 51% stake in
> their African operations. Perhaps, it has gained space and time for the next
> buyout. However, there are many reasons to believe Warid's buyout.
> Consolidation is due in Pakistani market. Telenor has launched Easypaisa and
> is broadening its base/scope with every passing day which is a clear signal
> they are in no mood to quit. Warid has had many problems both financially
> and in terms of a proper management. Wateen's CEO recently stated they are
> going for IPO which means Abu Dhabi group is no longer ready to inject
> equity in it. We cannot predict, but there are signs for Warid in trouble
> ...
> On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 5:02 PM, Inspirex <inspi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> This is what happens when people talk sitting "at" the audience and not
>> "to" the audience.
>> Sad.
>> On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Muhammed Nasrullah
>> <nasrul...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>> Whats with the inability of PR to speak straight? Check out how they say
>>> "there's no telenor-warid deal":
>>> *Lahore:* Warid Telecom (Pvt.) Ltd. is a leading telecom company in
>>> Pakistan that is recognized as the most reliable and steadfast telecom
>>> operator. Warid Telecom has issued an official statement in response to
>>> the
>>> rumor on ‘Warid Telecom Merger’. The statement endorses the
>>> un-authenticity
>>> of the news circulated in the media and it explains clearly that no such
>>> information is issued by the company Management. Warid Telecom is a
>>> responsible organization that always keep the public update on any
>>> developments. (PR).
>>> On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 3:59 PM, Inspirex <inspi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> The Competition Commission of Pakistan is on its way out...cartels will
>>>> reign supreme!
>>>> On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Muhammad Asif
>>>> <asif...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>> I think there will be some consolidation in the industry. It can be
>>>>> either Warid + Telenor or any other combination. I wounder if any two
>>>>> players decide to merge than how Competition Commission of Pakistan or
>>>>> PTA
>>>>> is likely to react to protect consumers.
>>>>> regards,
>>>>> MA
>>>>> On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 9:59 AM, H.M <humayun.must...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Usman - I think they said it for Pakistan and Warid Pakistan Top
>>>>>> Management gave this statement and not Warid Abu Dhabi.
>>>>>> Personally speaking there is no reason why Warid would sell to
>>>>>> Telenor,they have already sold stakes to Singtel which is more than
>>>>>> enough for them.
>>>>>> - H.M
>>>>>> On Nov 19, 10:49 pm, aamir attaa <aam...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> > *Following report says: Telenor open for in-market consolidation in
>>>>>> Pakistan
>>>>>> > *
>>>>>> > On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Sheikh Usman N. <
>>>>>> usman.nad...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>> > > If they are so proud, what happened in Congo, Uganda?
>>>>>> > > On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 12:14 PM, H.M <humayun.must...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> > >> According to some of the news Channels,Warid Top Management have
>>>>>> > >> denied these News saying that Warid is proud of its services and
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> > >> not selling or merging with any operator.
>>>>>> > >> - H.M
>>>>>> > >> On Nov 18, 1:32 pm, Bilal Khan <bkni...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> > >> > They have sold Congo and Uganada as well to an Essar Group of
>>>>>> India..
>>>>>> > >> > On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Sheikh Usman N. <
>>>>>> > >> usman.nad...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>> > >> > > Actually there are two scenarios for payment, one is through
>>>>>> stocks
>>>>>> > >> and
>>>>>> > >> > > other is cash. Abu Dhabi group would not mind off-loading all
>>>>>> the 70%
>>>>>> > >> stake
>>>>>> > >> > > in Warid if required to do so. Bank Alfalah definitely gains
>>>>>> alot
>>>>>> > >> through
>>>>>> > >> > > this transaction.
>>>>>> > >> > > If you look at the figures, it turns out to be
>>>>>> USD114/Subscriber if
>>>>>> > >> its
>>>>>> > >> > > $1.3B for 63%. Therefore, looking at Ufone, that adds
>>>>>> substantially to
>>>>>> > >> the
>>>>>> > >> > > value of PTCL stock. Basically, whether this deal goes
>>>>>> > >> > > through
>>>>>> or not,
>>>>>> > >> main
>>>>>> > >> > > thing is to look at Ufone now. Ufone is adding alot of value
>>>>>> to PTCL.
>>>>>> > >> > > Therefore, buy PTCL!
>>>>>> > >> > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 10:41 AM, Atif Wajid <
>>>>>> atwa...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> > >> wrote:
>>>>>> > >> > >> I found a good flash note on it. you may see the attached
>>>>>> analysis
>>>>>> > >> and
>>>>>> > >> > >> evaluate the impact.
>>>>>> > >> > >> Regards/Atif
>>>>>> > >> > >> On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 10:12 PM, aamir attaa <
>>>>>> aam...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> > >> wrote:
>>>>>> > >> > >>> @ Haris Agreed...
>>>>>> > >> > >>> On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 10:06 PM, Haris Shamsi <
>>>>>> > >> haris.sha...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>> > >> > >>>> Aamir, there is no "CONFIRMATION' in unconventional media
>>>>>> as well
>>>>>> > >> !!! as
>>>>>> > >> > >>>> far as i know - Yes there is an understanding at higher
>>>>>> level
>>>>>> > >> between both
>>>>>> > >> > >>>> managements however the modalities are still being
>>>>>> discussed and no
>>>>>> > >> decision
>>>>>> > >> > >>>> has been reached till now.
>>>>>> > >> > >>>> /HS
>>>>>> > >> > >>>> On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 1:27 PM, aamir attaa <
>>>>>> aam...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> > >> wrote:
>>>>>> > >> > >>>>> [Off topic] It is interesting that we still look for
>>>>>> confirmations
>>>>>> > >> in
>>>>>> > >> > >>>>> conventional media
>>>>>> > >> > >>>>> 2009/11/15 Qasim Y. Khan <qa...@qasimkhan.com>
>>>>>> > >> > >>>>> looks like a lot of people will be looking for jobs
>>>>>> > >> > >>>>> again.
>>>>>> > >> Especially
>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> top management, Hope not much of Wateen they are
>>>>>> absorbing in
>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 8:05 PM, JQ
>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> <kaqure...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>> I saw this news ticker on Business Plus channel today
>>>>>> (14th
>>>>>> > >> Nov.) If
>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>> this is running on the TV then this news might be
>>>>>> confirmed. So
>>>>>> > >> what
>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>> will be outcome of this deal in near and far future.
>>>>>> Please
>>>>>> > >> discuss.
>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>> JQ
>>>>>> > >> > >>> --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~
>>>>>> > >> > >>> Manage your subscription:
>>>>>> > >> > >>>http://groups.google.com/group/telecom-grid-pakistan >>>>>> > >> > >>> Browse and populate the community wiki at:
>>>>>> http://wiki.telecompk.net >>>>>> > >> > >>> -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
>>>>>> > >> > > "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they
>>>>>> fight with
>>>>>> > >> you,
>>>>>> > >> > > then you win"
>>>>>> > >> > > -Gandhi
> On 11/23/09, Sheikh Usman N. <usman.nad...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Well ... lets see ... Warid has come out with a statement does hold some
> > worth, but its important to see that they've just offloaded 51% stake in
> > their African operations. Perhaps, it has gained space and time for the
> next
> > buyout. However, there are many reasons to believe Warid's buyout.
> > Consolidation is due in Pakistani market. Telenor has launched Easypaisa
> and
> > is broadening its base/scope with every passing day which is a clear
> signal
> > they are in no mood to quit. Warid has had many problems both financially
> > and in terms of a proper management. Wateen's CEO recently stated they
> are
> > going for IPO which means Abu Dhabi group is no longer ready to inject
> > equity in it. We cannot predict, but there are signs for Warid in trouble
> > ...
> > On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 5:02 PM, Inspirex <inspi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> This is what happens when people talk sitting "at" the audience and not
> >> "to" the audience.
> >> Sad.
> >> On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Muhammed Nasrullah
> >> <nasrul...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >>> Whats with the inability of PR to speak straight? Check out how they
> say
> >>> "there's no telenor-warid deal":
> >>> *Lahore:* Warid Telecom (Pvt.) Ltd. is a leading telecom company in
> >>> Pakistan that is recognized as the most reliable and steadfast telecom
> >>> operator. Warid Telecom has issued an official statement in response to
> >>> the
> >>> rumor on ‘Warid Telecom Merger’. The statement endorses the
> >>> un-authenticity
> >>> of the news circulated in the media and it explains clearly that no
> such
> >>> information is issued by the company Management. Warid Telecom is a
> >>> responsible organization that always keep the public update on any
> >>> developments. (PR).
> >>> On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 3:59 PM, Inspirex <inspi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> The Competition Commission of Pakistan is on its way out...cartels
> will
> >>>> reign supreme!
> >>>> On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Muhammad Asif
> >>>> <asif...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >>>>> I think there will be some consolidation in the industry. It can be
> >>>>> either Warid + Telenor or any other combination. I wounder if any two
> >>>>> players decide to merge than how Competition Commission of Pakistan
> or
> >>>>> PTA
> >>>>> is likely to react to protect consumers.
> >>>>> regards,
> >>>>> MA
> >>>>> On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 9:59 AM, H.M <humayun.must...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>>> Usman - I think they said it for Pakistan and Warid Pakistan Top
> >>>>>> Management gave this statement and not Warid Abu Dhabi.
> >>>>>> Personally speaking there is no reason why Warid would sell to
> >>>>>> Telenor,they have already sold stakes to Singtel which is more than
> >>>>>> enough for them.
> >>>>>> - H.M
> >>>>>> On Nov 19, 10:49 pm, aamir attaa <aam...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> > *Following report says: Telenor open for in-market consolidation
> in
> >>>>>> Pakistan
> >>>>>> > *
> >>>>>> > On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Sheikh Usman N. <
> >>>>>> usman.nad...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >>>>>> > > If they are so proud, what happened in Congo, Uganda?
> >>>>>> > > On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 12:14 PM, H.M <
> humayun.must...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>> > >> According to some of the news Channels,Warid Top Management
> have
> >>>>>> > >> denied these News saying that Warid is proud of its services
> and
> >>>>>> is
> >>>>>> > >> not selling or merging with any operator.
> >>>>>> > >> - H.M
> >>>>>> > >> On Nov 18, 1:32 pm, Bilal Khan <bkni...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> > >> > They have sold Congo and Uganada as well to an Essar Group of
> >>>>>> India..
> >>>>>> > >> > On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Sheikh Usman N. <
> >>>>>> > >> usman.nad...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >>>>>> > >> > > Actually there are two scenarios for payment, one is
> through
> >>>>>> stocks
> >>>>>> > >> and
> >>>>>> > >> > > other is cash. Abu Dhabi group would not mind off-loading
> all
> >>>>>> the 70%
> >>>>>> > >> stake
> >>>>>> > >> > > in Warid if required to do so. Bank Alfalah definitely
> gains
> >>>>>> alot
> >>>>>> > >> through
> >>>>>> > >> > > this transaction.
> >>>>>> > >> > > If you look at the figures, it turns out to be
> >>>>>> USD114/Subscriber if
> >>>>>> > >> its
> >>>>>> > >> > > $1.3B for 63%. Therefore, looking at Ufone, that adds
> >>>>>> substantially to
> >>>>>> > >> the
> >>>>>> > >> > > value of PTCL stock. Basically, whether this deal goes
> >>>>>> > >> > > through
> >>>>>> or not,
> >>>>>> > >> main
> >>>>>> > >> > > thing is to look at Ufone now. Ufone is adding alot of
> value
> >>>>>> to PTCL.
> >>>>>> > >> > > Therefore, buy PTCL!
> >>>>>> > >> > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 10:41 AM, Atif Wajid <
> >>>>>> atwa...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>> > >> wrote:
> >>>>>> > >> > >> I found a good flash note on it. you may see the attached
> >>>>>> analysis
> >>>>>> > >> and
> >>>>>> > >> > >> evaluate the impact.
> >>>>>> > >> > >> Regards/Atif
> >>>>>> > >> > >> On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 10:12 PM, aamir attaa <
> >>>>>> aam...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>> > >> wrote:
> >>>>>> > >> > >>> @ Haris Agreed...
> >>>>>> > >> > >>> On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 10:06 PM, Haris Shamsi <
> >>>>>> > >> haris.sha...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >>>>>> > >> > >>>> Aamir, there is no "CONFIRMATION' in unconventional
> media
> >>>>>> as well
> >>>>>> > >> !!! as
> >>>>>> > >> > >>>> far as i know - Yes there is an understanding at higher
> >>>>>> level
> >>>>>> > >> between both
> >>>>>> > >> > >>>> managements however the modalities are still being
> >>>>>> discussed and no
> >>>>>> > >> decision
> >>>>>> > >> > >>>> has been reached till now.
> >>>>>> > >> > >>>> /HS
> >>>>>> > >> > >>>> On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 1:27 PM, aamir attaa <
> >>>>>> aam...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>> > >> wrote:
> >>>>>> > >> > >>>>> [Off topic] It is interesting that we still look for
> >>>>>> confirmations
> >>>>>> > >> in
> >>>>>> > >> > >>>>> conventional media
> >>>>>> > >> > >>>>> looks like a lot of people will be looking for jobs
> >>>>>> > >> > >>>>> again.
> >>>>>> > >> Especially
> >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> top management, Hope not much of Wateen they are
> >>>>>> absorbing in
> >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 8:05 PM, JQ
> >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>> <kaqure...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>> I saw this news ticker on Business Plus channel today
> >>>>>> (14th
> >>>>>> > >> Nov.) If
> >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>> this is running on the TV then this news might be
> >>>>>> confirmed. So
> >>>>>> > >> what
> >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>> will be outcome of this deal in near and far future.
> >>>>>> Please
> >>>>>> > >> discuss.
> >>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>> JQ
> >>>>>> > >> > >>> --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~
> >>>>>> > >> > >>> Manage your subscription:
> >>>>>> > >> > >>>http://groups.google.com/group/telecom-grid-pakistan > >>>>>> > >> > >>> Browse and populate the community wiki at:
> >>>>>> http://wiki.telecompk.net > >>>>>> > >> > >>> -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
> >>>>>> > >> > > "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they
> >>>>>> fight with
> >>>>>> > >> you,
> >>>>>> > >> > > then you win"
> >>>>>> > >> > > -Gandhi
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