TeleCON' 2008 Report Anyone?
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Babar
May 1, 2008, 12:33:58 AM5/1/08
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Can anyone share observations/experience about the recent Telecon in
Karachi? The site has good details including many presentations:
http://shamrockconferences.net/telecon2008/agenda.htm
Babar
Karachi? The site has good details including many presentations:
http://shamrockconferences.net/telecon2008/agenda.htm
Babar
Fawad Niazi
May 2, 2008, 1:02:18 AM5/2/08
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Thanks Babar for information. One of my colleague has attended the Telecon 2008 and i shall discuss with him and put on the observations.
Fawad
Tee Emm
May 2, 2008, 2:19:50 AM5/2/08
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Disclaimer: My employer was the one of the main sponsors of the event. I was able to attend Day 1 of the event only and missed the Day 2. Views expressed here are my own and not of my employer.
My experience for Day 1 was mixed. Some presentations were really good and thought provoking like the one given by Dr Amir Mateen of Cisco Systems Pakistan where he talked about how great the broadband vacuum is in Pakistan and how unprepared the local contents are and that in the absence of structured local contents, people will make up their own contents (read social networks) and in doing so, there is a real danger of a whole new generation getting carried away in the roman Urdu flood and how this threatens the Urdu script and the associated heritage.
Sajjad Haider, Director Networks, Ericsson's presentation later in the day was also great where he detailed case studies in which operators' business cases that were negative turned positive due to better power management in terms of turning off RF carriers during low-traffic hours, turning to solar energy etc. In the backdrop of the current energy crisis, it made an absolutely interesting listening.
Mr. Mudassir Hussain, Director Telecommunication Wireless, MoITT's presentation was a demonstration of HATR - Human Assisted Text Readout technology. :)
Presentations by both Mr. Zouhair A. Khaliq, President & CEO, Mobilink and Mr. Hasnat Masood, Director Corp. Communications, Telenor were disappointing. At least from Zouhair sb, I was expecting a 'talk' instead of a corporate brochure readout. Babar has hit the bull's eye when he wondered if these were self-promotion activities. When an event is named as 'Congress', it makes all sense to put aside the bragging and talk about technology, trends and issues. You get your subtle publicity for your company anyway but why poison your neutral views with the unnecessary logo banging? Telenor presentation was done on a black background with dark blue colored fonts which were unreadable to the audience and required the presenter to read it out for them.
Presentation by Mr Adnan Asdar of Multinet was probably not very well delivered due to it getting fast-forwarded / short time but it talked about the whole telecoms infrastructure industry of Pakistan and it openly showed achievements and landmarks of all of its competitors. It was nice to see images of competitors landmarks, maps with due credits provided appear on the screen.
My favorite presentation of the day was by Mr. Furqan Qureshi, General Manager, Wateen Telecom . Though it was not immune from the 'self promotion' virus that was making rounds that day in the 'congress', he was probably the best presenter in terms of delivering the contents to the audience and knowing what was going on his slides when. He talked about how Wateen is going to Mars to reach their customers and how 'every morning the CEO and nine of his close associates go thru the emails and telephone calls' to fix customer issues. He also announced that Wateen has 'stopped charging' for the full year in advance for its wireless broadband services which are now available on a discounted rate.
The young Mr. Syed Abid Ali, Consultant PTA, Six Sigma gave an intro (with the mandatory Motorolla details!) about the 6 sigma hoopla and its application (and interestingly where not to apply it). He was neutral and that was pretty relieving. During the question break, it was fun to see someone mischievously ask Abid about why Moto is failing these days if it was so good with the six sigma? :)
Mr. Noel Kirkaldy, Reg. Director, Wireless Broadband (ME&A) had an eye-candy presentation and the usual well-delivered presentation (what else do you expect from someone like him). He was smart when he repeatedly played on the theme of Pakistan being the first in the entire world to take up a country-wide Wimax roll-out. He declared LTE as an evolution and Wimax as a revolution much to the subtle nay head moving of Sajjad Haider of Ericsson whose presentation was about how LTE is more likely to fix the economics of future networks.
-T
My experience for Day 1 was mixed. Some presentations were really good and thought provoking like the one given by Dr Amir Mateen of Cisco Systems Pakistan where he talked about how great the broadband vacuum is in Pakistan and how unprepared the local contents are and that in the absence of structured local contents, people will make up their own contents (read social networks) and in doing so, there is a real danger of a whole new generation getting carried away in the roman Urdu flood and how this threatens the Urdu script and the associated heritage.
Sajjad Haider, Director Networks, Ericsson's presentation later in the day was also great where he detailed case studies in which operators' business cases that were negative turned positive due to better power management in terms of turning off RF carriers during low-traffic hours, turning to solar energy etc. In the backdrop of the current energy crisis, it made an absolutely interesting listening.
Mr. Mudassir Hussain, Director Telecommunication Wireless, MoITT's presentation was a demonstration of HATR - Human Assisted Text Readout technology. :)
Presentations by both Mr. Zouhair A. Khaliq, President & CEO, Mobilink and Mr. Hasnat Masood, Director Corp. Communications, Telenor were disappointing. At least from Zouhair sb, I was expecting a 'talk' instead of a corporate brochure readout. Babar has hit the bull's eye when he wondered if these were self-promotion activities. When an event is named as 'Congress', it makes all sense to put aside the bragging and talk about technology, trends and issues. You get your subtle publicity for your company anyway but why poison your neutral views with the unnecessary logo banging? Telenor presentation was done on a black background with dark blue colored fonts which were unreadable to the audience and required the presenter to read it out for them.
Presentation by Mr Adnan Asdar of Multinet was probably not very well delivered due to it getting fast-forwarded / short time but it talked about the whole telecoms infrastructure industry of Pakistan and it openly showed achievements and landmarks of all of its competitors. It was nice to see images of competitors landmarks, maps with due credits provided appear on the screen.
My favorite presentation of the day was by Mr. Furqan Qureshi, General Manager, Wateen Telecom . Though it was not immune from the 'self promotion' virus that was making rounds that day in the 'congress', he was probably the best presenter in terms of delivering the contents to the audience and knowing what was going on his slides when. He talked about how Wateen is going to Mars to reach their customers and how 'every morning the CEO and nine of his close associates go thru the emails and telephone calls' to fix customer issues. He also announced that Wateen has 'stopped charging' for the full year in advance for its wireless broadband services which are now available on a discounted rate.
The young Mr. Syed Abid Ali, Consultant PTA, Six Sigma gave an intro (with the mandatory Motorolla details!) about the 6 sigma hoopla and its application (and interestingly where not to apply it). He was neutral and that was pretty relieving. During the question break, it was fun to see someone mischievously ask Abid about why Moto is failing these days if it was so good with the six sigma? :)
Mr. Noel Kirkaldy, Reg. Director, Wireless Broadband (ME&A) had an eye-candy presentation and the usual well-delivered presentation (what else do you expect from someone like him). He was smart when he repeatedly played on the theme of Pakistan being the first in the entire world to take up a country-wide Wimax roll-out. He declared LTE as an evolution and Wimax as a revolution much to the subtle nay head moving of Sajjad Haider of Ericsson whose presentation was about how LTE is more likely to fix the economics of future networks.
-T
Rehan Allah Wala
May 2, 2008, 3:09:08 PM5/2/08
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It was a good event, however there are TOO many events goin on, which does not mean its
a bad thing, it just means that they all need to FOCUS on one particular segment of the
market.
a bad thing, it just means that they all need to FOCUS on one particular segment of the
market.
Maybe IP telephony
Maybe Mobile Telephony
Maybe Carrier Interconnets.
We have 120 licences in Pakistan for LL out of which hardly 10 are alive, what about the
rest?
DO a conference on that, educate them how to become alive, let the vendors and customers
meet of that particular segment.
Even WITHIN the conference I did not see these categories on the program list, there were
SAME random categories and topics of conversations.
The person who summarized the entire conference was NOT a telecom guy, he SHOULD
have been.
He was called edge as E D G E
He did not know what ARUPU is and was calling it A R P U
In 100 people crowd on the 2nd day, I saw 2 faces that I knew which were telecom vetrans.
Again it was a great event, and I hope that Mr Rodregez will learn from it a lot, and will give
us a great event next time.
I would also strain on putting a 10 booth small expo also with this, so that the companies can
showcase what they have.
Mr Rodreges should also be a part of this particular forum, and learn and give back to this
forum and transform his show according to what the need of the hour is.
My 2 Aanay ( I am glad anaay are back in fashion) - Thank You Zong.
Rehan
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Babar
May 3, 2008, 11:57:53 PM5/3/08
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Rehan, Tee Emm - Thanks for the notes.
I also thought that Dr Mateen's preso was good and will share it on my
blog as well - with reference to this thread of course. Interesting to
read your comments about how Wateen is trying to improve.
BTW I was unable to open the ppt of Mr Adnan Asdar, which I had
downloaded from the conference site.
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I also thought that Dr Mateen's preso was good and will share it on my
blog as well - with reference to this thread of course. Interesting to
read your comments about how Wateen is trying to improve.
BTW I was unable to open the ppt of Mr Adnan Asdar, which I had
downloaded from the conference site.
> > On 5/1/08, Babar <babar.bha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Can anyone share observations/experience about the recent Telecon in
> > Karachi? The site has good details including many presentations:
> > http://shamrockconferences.net/telecon2008/agenda.htm
>
> > Babar
>
> Rehan Ahmed AllahWala
> Msn/Yahoo/GoogleTalk/Email: Re...@Rehan.comhttp://www.supertec.com/- Internet Telephony Solutions
> Http://www.DIDX.net- DID Number Market Place.
>
> > Can anyone share observations/experience about the recent Telecon in
> > Karachi? The site has good details including many presentations:
> > http://shamrockconferences.net/telecon2008/agenda.htm
>
> > Babar
>
> Rehan Ahmed AllahWala
> Msn/Yahoo/GoogleTalk/Email: Re...@Rehan.comhttp://www.supertec.com/- Internet Telephony Solutions
> Don't Remember Me ? Visithttp://www.Rehan.com
Majid Farid
May 4, 2008, 2:51:00 AM5/4/08
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Correction: Sajjad Haider, Director Networks, should be Sajjad
Hussain :)
/Majid
Hussain :)
/Majid
bmug...@gmail.com
May 4, 2008, 9:17:47 AM5/4/08
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I think there are positive aspects in Zouhair's presentation. The ways to combat low GDP and poverty and the benifits of increasing. Your industry revenues are based on these mainstream factors and eliminating poverty is the heart-beat of all the problem whether it comes to you in the form of purchasing power or uplifitng the life trends from one consumer sect to another (higher). These things grow to be a central part of your company plans especially in our GDP environment and rotating them around different conferences provides with the direction to other participants to target the source issue of the market because at the end of the day if I sell dialup connection I would not want to sell at 2Rs if I'm selling at 5 today and you can only do that by increasing the consumer power at various levels and keeping it stable.
Bilal
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