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Wahaj us Siraj/MGMT  
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 More options Oct 26, 10:31 am
From: "Wahaj us Siraj/MGMT" <wa...@dsl.net.pk>
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 20:31:39 +0600
Local: Mon, Oct 26 2009 10:31 am
Subject: Prevention of Electronic Crimes Ordinance - Draconian Law

Dear all,

Today, PILDAT (www.pildat.org) arranged a seminar on PECO 2007 and was
attended by, among others, Ms. Marvi Memon, MNA, Mrs. Anusha Rehman, MNA,
some other Parliamentarians, Civil Society members, lawyers and FIA officers
(including DG FIA).

The Parliamentarians (mostly from opposition benches) were quite concerned
about this law which is at the verge of approval by the National Assembly
despite the note of dissents by members of National Assembly Standing
Committee on IT & Telecom. The draft Act is being placed for the session of
the National Assembly somewhere next week and there's little time left to
make final efforts.

Text of presentation delivered by Barrister Ejaz is enclosed.

It is the time for the industry to raise forcefully our voice so that we can
synthesize the Parliamentarians on sensitivity of this issue for present and
future generations of educated youth, IT, Software and Telecom Professionals
in the country. The target should be to involve media fully by arranging
press conferences, articles, letters to editor, talk shows, etc., so that
message gets across.

We'd be arranging press conference and other events in Islamabad jointly
with PASHA, ISPAK and others. Other concerned professionals and citizen are
also requested to take this to various forums before it's too late.

Kind regards..Wahaj

Look before you leap!
And please look deep!

Prevention of Electronic Crimes Ordinance, 2007

Overview

Cyber Offences

Investigation and Prosecution of Offences

Some illustrations.

Cyber Offences

17 New Offences

Of which 14 are already covered under Pakistan Penal Code

Only minor amendments to PPC required

4 pages of definitions for about 20 offences

The Budapest Convention has only 4 definitions

Requires experienced legislative drafting

Loosely drafted offences

Casts a very wide net

See examples at the end

Cyber Offences

}  Serious potential of political, commercial or personal victimisation
}  Cyber terrorism
}  '.to act.alarm.frighten.disrupt.any segment of population, the Government

of entity associated with it

}  An email by a citizen's rights group to hold a rally on a public street

can be 'cyber terrorism' since it can 'disrupt' or 'alarm' the users of that
street

}  Cognisable offence
}  Arrest without warrant
}  Exclusion of jurisdiction of other courts (Section 44)

Investigation and Prosecution of Offences

PECO ignores international conventions and best practices

E.g. Article 15 of Budapest Convention 2001 on Cyber Crime - Conditions and
Safeguards

'Ensure.the powers and procedures.are subject to:

safeguards provided for under its domestic law .adequate protection of human
rights and liberties.other applicable human rights instruments.

Judicial or other independent supervision

Limitations on the scope and duration of such power and procedure

Consider the impact on third parties

Investigation and Prosecution of Offences

There is no requirement for mandatory grounds being given for obtaining a
search and seizure warrant

Impossible to verify or challenge the grounds

The law should provide for written grounds stating:

Information received being the basis for the application for the warrant

Scope of search - limiting it to relevant content or system

Method of search, leaving the larger operations intact

Investigation and Prosecution of Offences

IO can seek disclosure of:

any 'subscriber information' (Section 26(2))

You, me, any one.

No search warrant or other judicial permission required

If the IT company resists, its officers can be imprisoned for 1 yr

No right of privacy

All our communications can be spied upon

Other countries have sophisticated privacy regimes

E.g.  Office of the Privacy Commissioner of Canada (MP reporting direct to
Parliament)

No legal recourse to prevent such spying

Investigation and Prosecution of Offences

CrPC has detailed procedural protections for investigation of crimes

FIR, police diaries, preservation of case property, accused and witness
statements, presentation of challan, right of bail, etc.

Over 100 years of case law preserving such protections

Courts are familiar, and preserve these protections

But Section 25 enables Federal Government to change these investigation
procedures.

WHY?

Why an accused of fraud, forgery, etc. under PPC has procedural protections
against abuse of investigatory powers but one accused of cyber crimes of the
same kind hasn't?

Investigation and Prosecution of Offences

CrPC applies to all offences under PPC

But ICT Tribunal can dispense with CrPC '.where it deems necessary."
(Section 39)

Why an accused under PPC has trial-procedure protections under CrPC but a
cybercrime accused hasn't?

Will the accused have a right to go in the witness box?

Will the principles of bail under Section 497 and 498 apply to a cybercrime
accused?

Can the ICT dispense with the CrPC's requirements to record an accused's
statement, witness statements, preserve case property (computer data),,
etc.?

Investigation and Prosecution of Offences

CrPC is a statute and requires Parliament's approval for amendments

But the Cyber Crime Cell's investigation procedure can be amended at will by
the Government

The ICT Tribunal can apply or disapply the CrPC at will

NO PARLIAMENTARY SCRUTINY OF INVESTIGATION, PROSECUTION AND TRIAL PROCEDURE

It is not sufficient to leave these to delegated legislation because these
are made by the Executive and are screened from Parliamentary scrutiny

OUR CIVIL LIBERTIES DEPEND ON THESE PROCEDURAL PROTECTIONS

Investigation and Prosecution of Offences

BUSINESS AND TRADE SECRETS ARE NOT PROTECTED

}  The search and seizure of computers, IT Systems and Data can take place
}  At any time and anywhere
}  On any number of IT systems, irrespective of whether they also carry the

data of non-related persons

}  Budapest Convention
}  Maintain the integrity of the seized data
}  Consider the impact on 3rd parties

Investigation and Prosecution of Offences

BUSINESS AND TRADE SECRETS ARE NOT PROTECTED

}  IO can seize commercial data
}  without assurance of confidential treatment
}  copies of seized data can be made without any chain of custody
}  no legal recourse to prevent unauthorised disclosure to competitors

Investigation and Prosecution of Offences

Valuable trade and business data can be lost

}  e.g. an ISP, a data warehouse, or a telephone company's system (or part

thereof) is seized for investigation of a suspected crime is given no rights
under PECO:

}  To retain a verified copy of the data / hard disk
}  For protection of its Intellectual Property
}  For security, confidentiality and integrity of its data
}  Also, no legal guarantees that:
}  the computers taken into custody will not later be implanted with

fabricated or false evidence

}  The computers will not be damaged
}  The data in the computers will not be lost or damaged

Potential Scenarios of Abuse             (1)

Ahmed is a Professor in a University

His computer gets infected with a virus overnight which results in 'spam'
being generated from his computer

Under the present law, an IO can arrest him with warrant, seize his computer
and the University's main server

If the spam is received in the computers of a bank, or post office, or any
government's office:

Ahmed can be arrested without warrant

For a non-bailable offence

Any one of us can be in place of 'Ahmed'!

Potential Scenarios of Abuse                                     (2)

Mr.  Ali is a politician

His opponent asks a hacker to infect Ali's computer with a virus which
propagates itself to other computers

The virus results in emails being generated which incite the public to
attack a religious sect

Mr. Ali can be charged with "Cyber Terrorism"

Mr. Ali can be arrested without warrant

For a non-bailable offence

It can be years before Mr. Ali is released on bail

Potential Scenarios of Abuse                                     (3)

}  Mr.  Ali is a politician
}  His opponent lodges a false FIR that he received an email from Mr. Ali

asking the opponent to join in a public rally that will cause damage to
public property

}  (it is easy to fabricate such a false email)
}  Mr. Ali can be charged with "Cyber Terrorism"
}  Mr. Ali can be arrested without warrant
}  For a non-bailable offence
}  His computer and all information and data can be seized by FIA without

warrant

}  Later, at the police station, Mr. Ali's computer can be 'infected' by a

dishonest IO with various other 'cyber terroristic' emails!

}  There is no protection in the law currently against such 'fabricated'

electronic evidence

}  It can be years before Mr. Ali is released on bail

Potential Scenarios of Abuse                                     (4)

}  Coso is a data operations company with multiple servers in a data center,

which also include the data servers of a bank

}  Coso's network is hacked, enabling access to the banks' data servers and

transferring millions of dollars to a fake account

}  In the morning, FIA can:
}  raid without warrant
}  Arrest the CEO, CTO and other officers
}  Seal and/or remove all data servers (grinding to a halt the operations of

other corporates who also have data servers at Coso)

}  ALL data, business information, confidential information, etc. will

become exposed to the IOs

}  There is no assurance under the law:
}  that the business information of other companies will not be compromised
}  The equipment and data in the data servers will not be damaged
}  Which company will want to do business in this environment?

Potential Scenarios of Abuse                                     (4)

Najma is a poor IT student

She belongs to a non-influential family

She is given a 'source code piece' by a friend who had stolen it from
University's archives

Najma incorporates it in her software program for her thesis, and markets
her program

Najma can be charged with ...

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Babar  
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 More options Oct 27, 9:42 am
From: Babar <babar.bha...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 06:42:54 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Oct 27 2009 9:42 am
Subject: Re: Prevention of Electronic Crimes Ordinance - Draconian Law
Thanks for posting, Siraj. We need to get working on it - first thing
is to raise awareness. Here's a tweet from Ms. Memon, asking the ICT
community to jump in

RT @marvi_memon whr is IT community.We r fighting on peco n nt 1 tweet
from the real experts. When politicians work u dont! Silent majority!

Link to blog post:
http://telecompk.net/2009/10/27/pakistan-electronic-crimes-ordinance-...

Babar

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Arsalan Tariq Mir  
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 More options Oct 27, 9:51 am
From: Arsalan Tariq Mir <arsalan.t...@yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 06:51:41 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Oct 27 2009 9:51 am
Subject: Re: Prevention of Electronic Crimes Ordinance - Draconian Law

And we must do it at the earliest, as it reflects from Marvi Memons discussion that the National Assembly could pass a law in its current form at any point once the National Assembly session starts on November 2, 2009.
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Arsalan Tariq Mir
http://www.linkedin.com/in/arsalanmir
http://www.telecompk.net

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From: Babar <babar.bha...@gmail.com>
To: Telecom Grid Pakistan <telecom-grid-pakistan@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 18:42:54
Subject: Re: Prevention of Electronic Crimes Ordinance - Draconian Law

Thanks for posting, Siraj. We need to get working on it - first thing
is to raise awareness. Here's a tweet from Ms. Memon, asking the ICT
community to jump in

RT @marvi_memon whr is IT community.We r fighting on peco n nt 1 tweet
from the real experts. When politicians work u dont! Silent majority!

Link to blog post:
http://telecompk.net/2009/10/27/pakistan-electronic-crimes-ordinance-...

Babar

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Wahaj us Siraj  
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 More options Nov 5, 11:45 am
From: Wahaj us Siraj <wa...@dsl.net.pk>
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 08:45:34 -0800 (PST)
Local: Thurs, Nov 5 2009 11:45 am
Subject: Re: Prevention of Electronic Crimes Ordinance - Draconian Law
Dear all,

The National Assembly today has decided to send back the PECO to the
Standing Committee for public debate, comments and revision. This is a
great success for the industry and we salute the efforts made by all
stakeholders, particularly the Parliamentarians Anusha Rahman, Marvi
Memon and others, PASHA, ISPAK, Cellular Operators, lawyers, IT/
telecom professionals, civil society activists, bloggers, PILDAT,
friends from media and all others.

This also shows that sincere efforts for betterment of the society
don’t go waste and ultimately, the voice of right gets heard by the
decision makers. So let’s keep this spirit and struggle live so that
we can leave a better, prosperous, educated and judicious Pakistan for
our future generation.

We now need to work closely with the NA Standing Committee on IT &
Telecom so that all necessary changes in the draft Bill are
incorporated before the draft is tabled again on the floor of National
Assembly.

Kind regards….Wahaj

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