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Tee Emm  
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 More options Jan 9, 5:57 am
From: "Tee Emm" <tariq.must...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 15:57:12 +0500
Local: Wed, Jan 9 2008 5:57 am
Subject: Mobilink Foundation

Mobilink has announced the establishment of Mobilink Foundation (
http://www.mobilinkgsm.com) to formally handle their CSR initiatives (
http://www.mobilinkgsm.com/csr/index.php). The seed financial endowment is
Rs 30 million. They can take up some good, tech savvy not-to-profit projects
(though the current initiatives are not terribly exciting - like
construction of wheel chair ramp at Mobilink offices!).

But good step forward!

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Shaheer Khan  
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 More options Jan 9, 12:23 pm
From: Shaheer Khan <shaheer.a.k...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 09:23:57 -0800 (PST)
Local: Wed, Jan 9 2008 12:23 pm
Subject: Re: Mobilink Foundation
The wheel-chair ramp is one thing that lefts to be desired. I've seen
it in MANY countries abroad, and it's part of any CSR activity to help
facilitate the transport of disabled persons in society. Here, in
Pakistan, I don't get to see these. Hospitals, however, are one
exception... but then, I'm sure everyone knows why... because their
beds can't go through (they don't care about persons on wheelchairs,
I'm sure).

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Shakeel Ahmad  
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 More options Jan 9, 12:31 pm
From: "Shakeel Ahmad" <shakeelah...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 22:31:43 +0500
Local: Wed, Jan 9 2008 12:31 pm
Subject: Re: Mobilink Foundation

No doubt about it - i haven't seen a single building/office/Bus Station,
tram or even a bus in US which is not wheel-chair friendly. But its a nice
effort and ideally next step would be priority to handicapped people in
Customer Support Jobs as well (if capable enough).

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Osama A. Hashmi  
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 More options Jan 9, 12:28 pm
From: "Osama A. Hashmi" <hashm...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 22:28:26 +0500
Local: Wed, Jan 9 2008 12:28 pm
Subject: Re: Mobilink Foundation

Actually why is a wheelchair considered charitable CSR activity anyway? This
is part of fundamental rights and companies get sued for not providing it.

We're a software product company and in California we could be sued if we
dont support people with visual impairments.

This is the law - its not something you go out and promote just to win gold
medals. You dont show off that you're taking money out of your own
foundation to do things which should have been done in the first place to
protect citizen rights.

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Basking Devil  
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 More options Jan 10, 2:57 am
From: Basking Devil <basking_de...@hotmail.com>
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 07:57:08 +0000
Local: Thurs, Jan 10 2008 2:57 am
Subject: RE: Mobilink Foundation

These companies should be made to study a course in Moral Ethics. This also sadly portrays the state of ethical depravity which the society is heading too. Good deeds (WHICH ARE RARELY DONE NOWADAYS) are done to gain publicity rather than having a good-will behind them. I have seen people who have quickly come in to money showing the will to join civil rights groups for the sake of gaining publicity. That’s another debate in itself.  

About visual impairment my father had lost his eyesight nearly some ten years ago since he liked walking around he got himself a white stick. He was about to be run over several times by various car while walking on the streets people used to collide and SAY" NAZAR NAHIN ATA HAI" so u can imagine the ignorance of the society towards handicap people. Even people holding higher posts are ignorant about it.

Since there is no rule of law in the country or provision of any basic human rights or civil rights, we should try to promote awareness about it in society on individual bases as the state has no intention or willingness to promote or protect it... as a saying" its easier to manage a herd of sheep’s rather than bunch of intellectually aware group or society. From time to time I get the opportunity to converse with the elite hierarchy of Pakistan, and I am extremely repentant to say they are people of very less and some times non-existent of moral principles and values.
It’s binding upon all of the aware species of civil society to condemn acts just for the sake of promotions or winning of accolades.
Lastly I wonder the thick skins at PTA have ever wondered about putting it in writing to all the telecom operators to provide services at their offices for the handicap.

Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 22:28:26 +0500From: hashm...@gmail.comTo: telecom-grid-pakis...@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Mobilink FoundationActually why is a wheelchair considered charitable CSR activity anyway? This is part of fundamental rights and companies get sued for not providing it.We're a software product company and in California we could be sued if we dont support people with visual impairments. This is the law - its not something you go out and promote just to win gold medals. You dont show off that you're taking money out of your own foundation to do things which should have been done in the first place to protect citizen rights.

On Jan 9, 2008 10:23 PM, Shaheer Khan <shaheer.a.k...@gmail.com> wrote:
The wheel-chair ramp is one thing that lefts to be desired. I've seenit in MANY countries abroad, and it's part of any CSR activity to helpfacilitate the transport of disabled persons in society. Here, in Pakistan, I don't get to see these. Hospitals, however, are oneexception... but then, I'm sure everyone knows why... because theirbeds can't go through (they don't care about persons on wheelchairs, I'm sure).
On Jan 9, 3:57 pm, "Tee Emm" <tariq.must...@gmail.com> wrote:> Mobilink has announced the establishment of Mobilink Foundation ( http://www.mobilinkgsm.com) to formally handle their CSR initiatives (http://www.mobilinkgsm.com/csr/index.php ). The seed financial endowment is> Rs 30 million. They can take up some good, tech savvy not-to-profit projects> (though the current initiatives are not terribly exciting - like> construction of wheel chair ramp at Mobilink offices!). >> But good step forward!>> --> Tariq Mustafa         MSN:t...@hotmail.com

> Active Cell #         http://tinyurl.com/2ob35t> Industry Blog:http://pakng.wordpress.com<br_________________________________________________________________

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KO  
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 More options Jan 10, 5:16 am
From: KO <khalid.o...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 15:16:55 +0500
Local: Thurs, Jan 10 2008 5:16 am
Subject: Re: Mobilink Foundation

It seems to be solely an exercise in marketing.

1. Construction on their own office should have have nothing to do with this
fund

2. Recycling of billboards - they are recycled anyways by the company who
puts them up generally.
I'm pretty sure Mobilink is not in the billboard business.

ko

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Rizwan Sarwar  
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 More options Jan 10, 5:52 am
From: "Rizwan Sarwar" <rsar...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 10:52:05 +0000
Local: Thurs, Jan 10 2008 5:52 am
Subject: Re: Mobilink Foundation

Well I agree with what has been said before, however I see it as a start, at
least someone is doing something (let it be for marketing or what ever) and
it might just enforce others to do similar things. I agree that wider
awareness is required but I would appritiate Mobilink for doing this.

riZ

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Khurram  
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 More options Jan 11, 6:38 am
From: Khurram <khurram.sul...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 03:38:28 -0800 (PST)
Local: Fri, Jan 11 2008 6:38 am
Subject: Re: Mobilink Foundation
While I agree that establishing a Foundation for spearheading their
CSR activities is a good thing, and it would be really commendable if
they actually take up some good projects for the benefit of the
community. But at the same time, Foundation can be used to channel
"Tax-Exempted" funds to their promotional campaigns and other
activities, lowering their tax liabilities. So what will have to be
analyzed in the long term is.. how much do they actually spend on
community development compared to the benefits they drive from the
exercise.

Khurram


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