RE: Nadra's electronic records. - Internet statistics, et al!
Salman Ansari
Perhaps the mail did not get through because of the attachment. Resending.
Salman
From: Salman Ansari
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Subject: RE: Nadra's electronic records. - Internet statistics, et al!
The difficulty in creating Internet statistics is that this is not only a moving target but the way it is measured is different for different purposes. For those who are interested I had put together different methods of determining Internet penetration and the digital connectedness of a country. For those who are interested to have a copy, should mail me off line in case the attachment does not come through.
In the beginning with no-prepaid accounts and only dial-up users this was very simple. With the advent of putting broadband in organizations the definition started to become skewed: the number of users was no longer the same as the 'connection'. With the growth of Hotmail, Gmail etc (and the usual duplication of mail accounts), DSL, etc to the home and SMB the predicting the actual number is impossible.
With the new PTCL centric ISP dial up scheme, it will be possible to determine the number of exclusive dial up users (from the CLI records in the Access Servers) then a broad based survey of large organizations (connected nodes/computers), SMEs, SMBs averaging out the number of users behind a DSL home connection, etc can give us a good estimate. This exercise will also yield us a very important statistic (which shamefully none of the Telecom companies have!): what is the true market for Broadband.
This survey and analysis is a difficult and expensive proposition, but who will bell the cat?
Over the years, I have been trying to get the truth in statistics into the international documents: ITU, CIA report, WB, ADB, World Internet statistics, Economist, CNET and anyone who would listen. This is important since all of them read each other’s data and put this in without confirmation. My experiment a few years ago of making sure that we had the same statistic in many credible locations (WEF, WB, CIA Factbook) resulted in the number of Internet users at 15 Million and I assume the figure of 18 M is an extrapolation of this.
Rabia Garib has now started a direct engagement with INSEAD for their Global e-Readiness Index and hopefully there will be more sense in Pakistan’s visibility.
There was a very interesting discussion with INSEAD (Dr. Sumitra Dutta) and Irene Mia (WEF) when the 2006 Report had incorrect data and I could share this with anyone who may be interested, but it did show the errors in the data gathering and statistic.
Salman
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From: Rehan Allah Wala [mailto:re...@supertec.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 7:31 PM
To: Irfan Shahid
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Subject: Re: Nadra's electronic records.
The 17 million figure was given to me by the Google guy
I suppose google may know how many users they have in Pakistan
bare in mind that there are 1.2 milliion facebook users now in Pakistan also
u can see that your self on facebook.com/ads/
> As per PTA, we have a cell phone users of over 60 million.
> A safe estimate of internet users is about 3 to 5 million altogether.
> 17 million, I guess is quite exaggerated like 60 million by PTA.
> However bhutta sb can comment better:)
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> But again this could be a great service and will grow.
>
> Can we be of any help?
> We have expertise in telecom applications as well as internet.
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> Regards
>
> Irfan shahid | www.Allah.pk | www.aeon.pk | www.awami.com | ... more to come
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>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rehan Allah Wala [mailto:re...@supertec.com]
> Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 4:58 AM
> To: fri...@magazine.com.pk; Irfan Shahid
> Cc: telecom-gr...@googlegroups.com; pasha...@yahoogroups.com;
> sal...@super.net.pk; bhu...@cyber.net.pk
> Subject: Nadra's electronic records.
>
> I was just thinking.
>
> Why doesn't Nadra issue's an online ID to all citizen's of Pakistan on Nadra
> web site, and
> allow us to update the information, which can then later be confirmed by
> Nadra and they can
> update their database?
>
>
> Nadra can at least ask for email addresses of people, and work details also,
> Maybe most
> people will not have, but as per Badar Khushnood ( google rep in Pakistan)
> there are 17
> million people online, that makes it around 10% of the country has access to
> email.
>
> Most of these 10% people are the one who are going to use this online web
> site also.
>
> IF nadra has email, once there is someone who buy's a sim card on one's
> name, nadra can
> issue an email to the owner of the NIC Number, that a new SIM card has been
> issued on
> your name, Kindly check.
>
> Simple service, yet will be very helpful to the citizens , and Nadra.
>
> Rehan
>
>
> >
> >
> >
> > Dear All
> >
> > PTA has introduced a system where you can check how many SIM´s
> > are issued over your NIC.
> > http://www.pta.gov.pk/668/
> >
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Irfan Shahid: www.Allah.pk
> >
>
>
>
> Rehan Ahmed AllahWala
> President & CEO - Super Technologies Inc.
>
> http://www.supertec.com/ - Internet Telephony Solutions
>
> Don't Remember Me ? Visit http://www.Rehan.com
>
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> "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then
> you win."
> By Gandhi.
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>
Rehan Ahmed AllahWala
President & CEO - Super Technologies Inc.
http://www.supertec.com/ - Internet Telephony Solutions
Don't Remember Me ? Visit http://www.Rehan.com
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"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win."
By Gandhi.
"Think Smart, Act Fast, Learn from Others, Be Successfull"