I heard from someone about the launch of Easy Paisa by Telenor.
I got extremely excited, that I wanted to go for the launch, but when I just saw the web site on what it does.
I am very very very disappointed.
Imagine when you can pay for your coke, your samoosa, your amrood, and your mango's via Mobile phone, just by sending an sms.
The telecoms have this facility, YET they do not want to promote it, and they are NOT promoting this concept of paying via sms and mobile credit.
Telecom Marketing People, WAKE UP, start a campaign showing a Paan wala accepting Mobile credit as payment, which he can then re-use to pay for stuff that he wants.
Find you charge 5% let the customer descide if he wants to pay the 5% service fee and 15% tax , but TEACH him to use his mobile balance to pay for service, and WHY NOT ?
I hope they will do this soon enough and make money for themselves, and for others.
Rehan Ahmed AllahWala President & CEO - Super Technologies Inc.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." By Gandhi. "Think Smart, Act Fast, Learn from Others, Be Successfull"
> I heard from someone about the launch of Easy Paisa by Telenor.
> I got extremely excited, that I wanted to go for the launch, but when I
> just saw the web site on what it does.
> I am very very very disappointed.
> Imagine when you can pay for your coke, your samoosa, your amrood, and
> your mango's via Mobile phone, just by sending an sms.
> The telecoms have this facility, YET they do not want to promote it, and
> they are NOT promoting this concept of paying via sms and mobile credit.
> Telecom Marketing People, WAKE UP, start a campaign showing a Paan wala
> accepting Mobile credit as payment, which he can then re-use to pay for
> stuff that he wants.
> Find you charge 5% let the customer descide if he wants to pay the 5%
> service fee and 15% tax , but TEACH him to use his mobile balance to pay for
> service, and WHY NOT ?
> I hope they will do this soon enough and make money for themselves, and
> for others.
> Rehan Ahmed AllahWala
> President & CEO - Super Technologies Inc.
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then
> you win."
> By Gandhi.
> "Think Smart, Act Fast, Learn from Others, Be Successfull"
LoL! We are privileged people living in cities and towns having cell phones
AND computers. Many of us enjoy broadband connectivity at our homes and
offices.
But we must realize that the service primarily focuses on Pakistan's rural
majority and the 'un-banked' people who are a vast majority. Pakistan only
has 25 million bank accounts with over 90 million mobile subscribers.
So for someone who does'nt even have a bank account, going to any easy-paisa
agent, creating a virtual account and being able to transact is a big
development indeed.
I believe this is an optimistic moment for all of us in Pakistan.
I would also like you to read my blog post which I wrote before the official
launch:
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 7:32 AM, Usman <jat...@gmail.com> wrote:
> AGREED!
> I was too disappointed to see, one must go out side.. and cant do it from
> home or cell. its 2009 and we are still making On Counter deals..
> I was expecting WEB, WAP or SMS transaction.. just like many banks already
> doing and they do it for FREE!
> On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 5:33 PM, Rehan Allah Wala <re...@supertec.com>wrote:
>> I heard from someone about the launch of Easy Paisa by Telenor.
>> I got extremely excited, that I wanted to go for the launch, but when I
>> just saw the web site on what it does.
>> I am very very very disappointed.
>> Imagine when you can pay for your coke, your samoosa, your amrood, and
>> your mango's via Mobile phone, just by sending an sms.
>> The telecoms have this facility, YET they do not want to promote it, and
>> they are NOT promoting this concept of paying via sms and mobile credit.
>> Telecom Marketing People, WAKE UP, start a campaign showing a Paan wala
>> accepting Mobile credit as payment, which he can then re-use to pay for
>> stuff that he wants.
>> Find you charge 5% let the customer descide if he wants to pay the 5%
>> service fee and 15% tax , but TEACH him to use his mobile balance to pay for
>> service, and WHY NOT ?
>> I hope they will do this soon enough and make money for themselves, and
>> for others.
>> Rehan Ahmed AllahWala
>> President & CEO - Super Technologies Inc.
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then
>> you win."
>> By Gandhi.
>> "Think Smart, Act Fast, Learn from Others, Be Successfull"
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 8:32 AM, Usman <jat...@gmail.com> wrote:
> AGREED!
> I was too disappointed to see, one must go out side.. and cant do it from
> home or cell. its 2009 and we are still making On Counter deals..
> I was expecting WEB, WAP or SMS transaction.. just like many banks already
> doing and they do it for FREE!
> On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 5:33 PM, Rehan Allah Wala <re...@supertec.com>wrote:
>> I heard from someone about the launch of Easy Paisa by Telenor.
>> I got extremely excited, that I wanted to go for the launch, but when I
>> just saw the web site on what it does.
>> I am very very very disappointed.
>> Imagine when you can pay for your coke, your samoosa, your amrood, and
>> your mango's via Mobile phone, just by sending an sms.
>> The telecoms have this facility, YET they do not want to promote it, and
>> they are NOT promoting this concept of paying via sms and mobile credit.
>> Telecom Marketing People, WAKE UP, start a campaign showing a Paan wala
>> accepting Mobile credit as payment, which he can then re-use to pay for
>> stuff that he wants.
>> Find you charge 5% let the customer descide if he wants to pay the 5%
>> service fee and 15% tax , but TEACH him to use his mobile balance to pay for
>> service, and WHY NOT ?
>> I hope they will do this soon enough and make money for themselves, and
>> for others.
>> Rehan Ahmed AllahWala
>> President & CEO - Super Technologies Inc.
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then
>> you win."
>> By Gandhi.
>> "Think Smart, Act Fast, Learn from Others, Be Successfull"
> I heard from someone about the launch of Easy Paisa by Telenor.
> I got extremely excited, that I wanted to go for the launch, but when I just saw the > web site on what it does.
> I am very very very disappointed.
> Imagine when you can pay for your coke, your samoosa, your amrood, and your > mango's via Mobile phone, just by sending an sms.
> The telecoms have this facility, YET they do not want to promote it, and they are > NOT promoting this concept of paying via sms and mobile credit.
> Telecom Marketing People, WAKE UP, start a campaign showing a Paan wala > accepting Mobile credit as payment, which he can then re-use to pay for stuff that he > wants.
> Find you charge 5% let the customer descide if he wants to pay the 5% service fee > and 15% tax , but TEACH him to use his mobile balance to pay for service, and > WHY NOT ?
> I hope they will do this soon enough and make money for themselves, and for > others.
> Rehan Ahmed AllahWala
> President & CEO - Super Technologies Inc.
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." > By Gandhi.
> "Think Smart, Act Fast, Learn from Others, Be Successfull"
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." By Gandhi.
"Think Smart, Act Fast, Learn from Others, Be Successfull"
but this service is already available by some of the financial institutions
without any fee or charges, I think its better to open an account instead of
visiting Tameer Bank [?]
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 11:45 PM, Rehan Allah Wala <re...@supertec.com>wrote:
> > I heard from someone about the launch of Easy Paisa by Telenor.
> > I got extremely excited, that I wanted to go for the launch, but when
> I just saw the
> > web site on what it does.
> > I am very very very disappointed.
> > Imagine when you can pay for your coke, your samoosa, your amrood,
> and your
> > mango's via Mobile phone, just by sending an sms.
> > The telecoms have this facility, YET they do not want to promote it,
> and they are
> > NOT promoting this concept of paying via sms and mobile credit.
> > Telecom Marketing People, WAKE UP, start a campaign showing a Paan
> wala
> > accepting Mobile credit as payment, which he can then re-use to pay
> for stuff that he
> > wants.
> > Find you charge 5% let the customer descide if he wants to pay the 5%
> service fee
> > and 15% tax , but TEACH him to use his mobile balance to pay for
> service, and
> > WHY NOT ?
> > I hope they will do this soon enough and make money for themselves,
> and for
> > others.
> > Rehan Ahmed AllahWala
> > President & CEO - Super Technologies Inc.
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you,
> then you win."
> > By Gandhi.
> > "Think Smart, Act Fast, Learn from Others, Be Successfull"
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then
> you win."
> By Gandhi.
> "Think Smart, Act Fast, Learn from Others, Be Successfull"
> From: Ather Alam <alam.at...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Easy Paisa
> To: telecom-grid-pakistan@googlegroups.com
> Date: Friday, October 16, 2009, 10:29 AM
> but this service is already
> available by some of the financial institutions without any
> fee or charges, I think its better to open an account
> instead of visiting Tameer Bank
> On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 11:45 PM,
> Rehan Allah Wala <re...@supertec.com>
> wrote:
> well bhai we can only comment on what we can see
> if there is a bigger picture, We can not see it yet.
> > Lets wait for the entire portfolio and then comment on
> the overall strategy.
> > --
> > FN
> > On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 8:32 AM, Usman <jat...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > AGREED!
> > I was too disappointed to see, one must go out
> side.. and cant do it from home or cell. its
> > 2009 and we are still making On Counter deals..
> > I was expecting WEB, WAP or SMS transaction..
> just like many banks already doing and
> > they do it for FREE!
> > On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 5:33 PM, Rehan Allah Wala
> <re...@supertec.com>
> wrote:
> > I heard from someone about the launch of Easy
> Paisa by Telenor.
> > I got extremely excited, that I wanted to go for
> the launch, but when I just saw the
> > web site on what it does.
> > I am very very very disappointed.
> > Imagine when you can pay for your coke, your
> samoosa, your amrood, and your
> > mango's via Mobile phone, just by sending an
> sms.
> > The telecoms have this facility, YET they do not
> want to promote it, and they are
> > NOT promoting this concept of paying via sms and
> mobile credit.
> > Telecom Marketing People, WAKE UP, start a
> campaign showing a Paan wala
> > accepting Mobile credit as payment, which he can
> then re-use to pay for stuff that he
> > wants.
> > Find you charge 5% let the customer descide if
> he wants to pay the 5% service fee
> > and 15% tax , but TEACH him to use his mobile
> balance to pay for service, and
> > WHY NOT ?
> > I hope they will do this soon enough and make
> money for themselves, and for
> > others.
> > Rehan Ahmed AllahWala
> > President & CEO - Super Technologies Inc.
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > "First they ignore you, then they laugh at
> you, then they fight you, then you win."
> > By Gandhi.
> > "Think Smart, Act Fast, Learn from Others,
> Be Successfull"
No need to visit Tameer Bank,
'easypaisa users will have the freedom to make bill payments and send and
receive money at thousands of outlets and in addition manage their bank
accounts over their mobile phones.'
Like 'easyLoad'
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 4:29 PM, Ather Alam <alam.at...@gmail.com> wrote:
> but this service is already available by some of the financial institutions
> without any fee or charges, I think its better to open an account instead of
> visiting Tameer Bank [?]
> On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 11:45 PM, Rehan Allah Wala <re...@supertec.com>wrote:
>> well bhai we can only comment on what we can see
>> if there is a bigger picture, We can not see it yet.
>> > Lets wait for the entire portfolio and then comment on the overall
>> strategy.
>> > --
>> > FN
>> > On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 8:32 AM, Usman <jat...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > AGREED!
>> > I was too disappointed to see, one must go out side.. and cant do it
>> from home or cell. its
>> > 2009 and we are still making On Counter deals..
>> > I was expecting WEB, WAP or SMS transaction.. just like many banks
>> already doing and
>> > they do it for FREE!
>> > On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 5:33 PM, Rehan Allah Wala <re...@supertec.com>
>> wrote:
>> > I heard from someone about the launch of Easy Paisa by Telenor.
>> > I got extremely excited, that I wanted to go for the launch, but
>> when I just saw the
>> > web site on what it does.
>> > I am very very very disappointed.
>> > Imagine when you can pay for your coke, your samoosa, your amrood,
>> and your
>> > mango's via Mobile phone, just by sending an sms.
>> > The telecoms have this facility, YET they do not want to promote it,
>> and they are
>> > NOT promoting this concept of paying via sms and mobile credit.
>> > Telecom Marketing People, WAKE UP, start a campaign showing a Paan
>> wala
>> > accepting Mobile credit as payment, which he can then re-use to pay
>> for stuff that he
>> > wants.
>> > Find you charge 5% let the customer descide if he wants to pay the
>> 5% service fee
>> > and 15% tax , but TEACH him to use his mobile balance to pay for
>> service, and
>> > WHY NOT ?
>> > I hope they will do this soon enough and make money for themselves,
>> and for
>> > others.
>> > Rehan Ahmed AllahWala
>> > President & CEO - Super Technologies Inc.
>> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> > "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you,
>> then you win."
>> > By Gandhi.
>> > "Think Smart, Act Fast, Learn from Others, Be Successfull"
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then
>> you win."
>> By Gandhi.
>> "Think Smart, Act Fast, Learn from Others, Be Successfull"
>> I heard from someone about the launch of Easy Paisa by Telenor.
>> I got extremely excited, that I wanted to go for the launch, but when
>> I just saw the
>> web site on what it does.
>> I am very very very disappointed.
>> Imagine when you can pay for your coke, your samoosa, your amrood, and
>> your
>> mango's via Mobile phone, just by sending an sms.
>> The telecoms have this facility, YET they do not want to promote it,
>> and they are
>> NOT promoting this concept of paying via sms and mobile credit.
>> Telecom Marketing People, WAKE UP, start a campaign showing a Paan
>> wala
>> accepting Mobile credit as payment, which he can then re-use to pay
>> for stuff that he
>> wants.
>> Find you charge 5% let the customer descide if he wants to pay the 5%
>> service fee
>> and 15% tax , but TEACH him to use his mobile balance to pay for
>> service, and
>> WHY NOT ?
>> I hope they will do this soon enough and make money for themselves,
>> and for
>> others.
>> Rehan Ahmed AllahWala
>> President & CEO - Super Technologies Inc.
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you,
>> then you win."
>> By Gandhi.
>> "Think Smart, Act Fast, Learn from Others, Be Successfull"
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then
> you win."
> By Gandhi.
> "Think Smart, Act Fast, Learn from Others, Be Successfull"
> but the management has to consider the other side of picture i.e. the cyber
> crime activities which are getting more smarter than the controls.
> --- On Fri, 10/16/09, Ather Alam <alam.at...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> From: Ather Alam <alam.at...@gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: Easy Paisa
>> To: telecom-grid-pakistan@googlegroups.com
>> Date: Friday, October 16, 2009, 10:29 AM
>> but this service is already
>> available by some of the financial institutions without any
>> fee or charges, I think its better to open an account
>> instead of visiting Tameer Bank
>> On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 11:45 PM,
>> Rehan Allah Wala <re...@supertec.com>
>> wrote:
>> well bhai we can only comment on what we can see
>> if there is a bigger picture, We can not see it yet.
>> > Lets wait for the entire portfolio and then comment on
>> the overall strategy.
>> > --
>> > FN
>> > On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 8:32 AM, Usman <jat...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > AGREED!
>> > I was too disappointed to see, one must go out
>> side.. and cant do it from home or cell. its
>> > 2009 and we are still making On Counter deals..
>> > I was expecting WEB, WAP or SMS transaction..
>> just like many banks already doing and
>> > they do it for FREE!
>> > On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 5:33 PM, Rehan Allah Wala
>> <re...@supertec.com>
>> wrote:
>> > I heard from someone about the launch of Easy
>> Paisa by Telenor.
>> > I got extremely excited, that I wanted to go for
>> the launch, but when I just saw the
>> > web site on what it does.
>> > I am very very very disappointed.
>> > Imagine when you can pay for your coke, your
>> samoosa, your amrood, and your
>> > mango's via Mobile phone, just by sending an
>> sms.
>> > The telecoms have this facility, YET they do not
>> want to promote it, and they are
>> > NOT promoting this concept of paying via sms and
>> mobile credit.
>> > Telecom Marketing People, WAKE UP, start a
>> campaign showing a Paan wala
>> > accepting Mobile credit as payment, which he can
>> then re-use to pay for stuff that he
>> > wants.
>> > Find you charge 5% let the customer descide if
>> he wants to pay the 5% service fee
>> > and 15% tax , but TEACH him to use his mobile
>> balance to pay for service, and
>> > WHY NOT ?
>> > I hope they will do this soon enough and make
>> money for themselves, and for
>> > others.
>> > Rehan Ahmed AllahWala
>> > President & CEO - Super Technologies Inc.
>> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> > "First they ignore you, then they laugh at
>> you, then they fight you, then you win."
>> > By Gandhi.
>> > "Think Smart, Act Fast, Learn from Others,
>> Be Successfull"
Agreed with Faisal Naik. At the launch, I got a chance to talk to the telenor team on this. They assured of their plans to go beyond just bill payments.
So like Ammar Faheem has said "for someone who does'nt even have a bank account, going to any
easy-paisa agent, creating a virtual account and being able to transact
is a big development indeed". We must appriciate such a step and look forward on how the branchless banking paradigm unviels and how it will cater the unbanked population.
>>I heard from someone about the launch of Easy Paisa by Telenor.
>>I got extremely excited, that I wanted to go for the launch, but when I just saw the >>web site on what it does.
>>I am very very very disappointed.
>>Imagine when you can pay for your coke, your samoosa, your amrood, and your >>mango's via Mobile phone, just by sending an sms.
>>The telecoms have this facility, YET they do not want to promote it, and they are >>NOT promoting this concept of paying via sms and mobile credit.
>>Telecom Marketing People, WAKE UP, start a campaign showing a Paan wala >>accepting Mobile credit as payment, which he can then re-use to pay for stuff that he >>wants.
>>Find you charge 5% let the customer descide if he wants to pay the 5% service fee >>and 15% tax , but TEACH him to use his mobile balance to pay for service, and >>WHY NOT ?
>>I hope they will do this soon enough and make money for themselves, and for others.
>>Rehan Ahmed AllahWala
>>President & CEO - Super Technologies Inc.
>>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." >>By Gandhi.
>>"Think Smart, Act Fast, Learn from Others, Be Successfull"
Considering there is MCB Mobile Banking, Mobilink Genie, UBL Orion, Amaana
etc; As a first step, EasyPaisa is *MUCH* better done than any of these
products/services. Unlike Genie, Orion, MCB etc EP is open for all; not for
limited customers. Right now, the focus is on consumer to business
transactions which is a safe place to start. Also, there are only 5-6 listed
'businesses' (LESCO etc). But if these guys are smart (and I really hope
they are), they will:
1. Open up EasyPaisa for any vendor
2. Allow consumer-consumer transactions
If you are a business and you get yourself listed as a business with
EasyPaisa, consumers acorss Pakistan should now be able to pay for your
services. I don't see any reason why Telenor would not allow your business
to be listed there but once you are; this does open up a wide door for you.
The success of this service will very much depend upon the number of
businesses selling services on EP. I do hope that Telenor opens it for all
businesses.
WS
-Nash
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 5:33 PM, Rehan Allah Wala <re...@supertec.com>wrote:
> I heard from someone about the launch of Easy Paisa by Telenor.
> I got extremely excited, that I wanted to go for the launch, but when I
> just saw the web site on what it does.
> I am very very very disappointed.
> Imagine when you can pay for your coke, your samoosa, your amrood, and
> your mango's via Mobile phone, just by sending an sms.
> The telecoms have this facility, YET they do not want to promote it, and
> they are NOT promoting this concept of paying via sms and mobile credit.
> Telecom Marketing People, WAKE UP, start a campaign showing a Paan wala
> accepting Mobile credit as payment, which he can then re-use to pay for
> stuff that he wants.
> Find you charge 5% let the customer descide if he wants to pay the 5%
> service fee and 15% tax , but TEACH him to use his mobile balance to pay for
> service, and WHY NOT ?
> I hope they will do this soon enough and make money for themselves, and
> for others.
> Rehan Ahmed AllahWala
> President & CEO - Super Technologies Inc.
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then
> you win."
> By Gandhi.
> "Think Smart, Act Fast, Learn from Others, Be Successfull"
We all are discussing and Telenor is spending huge amount its
marketing.We have to wait and see what are the results,I think this
idea will flop as our nation is not used to these kind of innovative
ideas rather than those typical methods of utility bill etc.
- H.M
On Oct 17, 12:11 am, Muhammed Nasrullah <nasrul...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Considering there is MCB Mobile Banking, Mobilink Genie, UBL Orion, Amaana
> etc; As a first step, EasyPaisa is *MUCH* better done than any of these
> products/services. Unlike Genie, Orion, MCB etc EP is open for all; not for
> limited customers. Right now, the focus is on consumer to business
> transactions which is a safe place to start. Also, there are only 5-6 listed
> 'businesses' (LESCO etc). But if these guys are smart (and I really hope
> they are), they will:
> 1. Open up EasyPaisa for any vendor
> 2. Allow consumer-consumer transactions
> If you are a business and you get yourself listed as a business with
> EasyPaisa, consumers acorss Pakistan should now be able to pay for your
> services. I don't see any reason why Telenor would not allow your business
> to be listed there but once you are; this does open up a wide door for you.
> The success of this service will very much depend upon the number of
> businesses selling services on EP. I do hope that Telenor opens it for all
> businesses.
> WS
> -Nash
> On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 5:33 PM, Rehan Allah Wala <re...@supertec.com>wrote:
> > I heard from someone about the launch of Easy Paisa by Telenor.
> > I got extremely excited, that I wanted to go for the launch, but when I
> > just saw the web site on what it does.
> > I am very very very disappointed.
> > Imagine when you can pay for your coke, your samoosa, your amrood, and
> > your mango's via Mobile phone, just by sending an sms.
> > The telecoms have this facility, YET they do not want to promote it, and
> > they are NOT promoting this concept of paying via sms and mobile credit.
> > Telecom Marketing People, WAKE UP, start a campaign showing a Paan wala
> > accepting Mobile credit as payment, which he can then re-use to pay for
> > stuff that he wants.
> > Find you charge 5% let the customer descide if he wants to pay the 5%
> > service fee and 15% tax , but TEACH him to use his mobile balance to pay for
> > service, and WHY NOT ?
> > I hope they will do this soon enough and make money for themselves, and
> > for others.
> > Rehan Ahmed AllahWala
> > President & CEO - Super Technologies Inc.
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then
> > you win."
> > By Gandhi.
> > "Think Smart, Act Fast, Learn from Others, Be Successfull"
Get people used to M-Commerce through an 'Open Consumer System' since there
is no other way to educate the Pakistani public and once they start
interacting they will ultimately come to know the crux of this whole effort.
A general consumer needs a 'hands-on' experience at such a mass level value
added service being introduced in the country and since most of our
population does not believe in 'subscription' hence this is the only way
they will start knowing about alternative way of commerce. Some one had to
take this initiative. Last year I was encouraging another operator on the
similar lines and also had sent them brochures for various VAS Kiosks to
start the awareness campaigning in order for the public to start using the
value added services, however they seemed null about this whole thing, but
in the end I'm happy that at least someone kicked off a similar Idea! for
our people.
There are various flaws in EP's tv commercial and newspaper ads, they left
number of gaps which could turn into threats if competitor reacts
proactively, but that is a total separate debate and maybe not fit for this
distribution list. Product and Concept as far as these both things go and
the road taken to infiltrate into the consumers - no doubt, outclass. This
is a good utilization of a banking unit.
EP is going to evolve into a much bigger category of things - they are day
and night in consultation with various stakeholders to improve this. That's
the way you win when you bring in more heads and generate 1000 ideas instead
of sitting in a confined environment and developing products. 3 years ago I
had introduced a P&G model to even some P&G people which they weren't aware
of, of how to link your community, consumers and competitors to develop a
global-class product.
How would a soap brand market their product into a non-hand washing segment?
They will first bring the consumer to the water as a first step and then
introduce that the soap is a vital part of cleaning yourself. The segments
not exposed to water won't be able know the importance of a Soap and the
segments not exposed to a Soap won't be able to signify the importance of a
Branded Soap.
You need to adopt a strategy to bring in a change inside the market.
Thanks.**
*
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 8:14 PM, Arsalan Tariq Mir
<arsalan.t...@yahoo.com>wrote:
> Agreed with Faisal Naik. At the launch, I got a chance to talk to the
> telenor team on this. They assured of their plans to go beyond just bill
> payments.
> So like Ammar Faheem has said "for someone who does'nt even have a bank
> account, going to any easy-paisa agent, creating a virtual account and being
> able to transact is a big development indeed". We must appriciate such a
> step and look forward on how the branchless banking paradigm unviels and how
> it will cater the unbanked population.
> Lets wait for the entire portfolio and then comment on the overall
> strategy.
> --
> FN
> On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 8:32 AM, Usman <jat...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> AGREED!
>> I was too disappointed to see, one must go out side.. and cant do it from
>> home or cell. its 2009 and we are still making On Counter deals..
>> I was expecting WEB, WAP or SMS transaction.. just like many banks already
>> doing and they do it for FREE!
>> On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 5:33 PM, Rehan Allah Wala <re...@supertec.com>wrote:
>>> I heard from someone about the launch of Easy Paisa by Telenor.
>>> I got extremely excited, that I wanted to go for the launch, but when I
>>> just saw the web site on what it does.
>>> I am very very very disappointed.
>>> Imagine when you can pay for your coke, your samoosa, your amrood, and
>>> your mango's via Mobile phone, just by sending an sms.
>>> The telecoms have this facility, YET they do not want to promote it,
>>> and they are NOT promoting this concept of paying via sms and mobile credit.
>>> Telecom Marketing People, WAKE UP, start a campaign showing a Paan wala
>>> accepting Mobile credit as payment, which he can then re-use to pay for
>>> stuff that he wants.
>>> Find you charge 5% let the customer descide if he wants to pay the 5%
>>> service fee and 15% tax , but TEACH him to use his mobile balance to pay for
>>> service, and WHY NOT ?
>>> I hope they will do this soon enough and make money for themselves, and
>>> for others.
>>> Rehan Ahmed AllahWala
>>> President & CEO - Super Technologies Inc.
>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>> "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then
>>> you win."
>>> By Gandhi.
>>> "Think Smart, Act Fast, Learn from Others, Be Successfull"
I am sick of seeing the Easy Paisa ads on TV. Every second ad is the
Easy Paisa ad. I don't think I will ever be using this facility/
service because of excessive advertising on the pattern of spam. :(
On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 7:50 PM, Asad <asadasi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I am sick of seeing the Easy Paisa ads on TV. Every second ad is the
> Easy Paisa ad. I don't think I will ever be using this facility/
> service because of excessive advertising on the pattern of spam. :(
On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 7:01 PM, Faisal Khan <babushk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Never say never, you just might be forced to eat your own words! :)
> On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 7:50 PM, Asad <asadasi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I am sick of seeing the Easy Paisa ads on TV. Every second ad is the
> > Easy Paisa ad. I don't think I will ever be using this facility/
> > service because of excessive advertising on the pattern of spam. :(
*If you look at today's dawn paper you will see an ad of a **consumable item
** on the front page, please refer the same to the model (orange marked
below) I was trying to draw earlier while explaining what is the
brand-itinerary of a product like EP to enter and make stronghold into the
market. These are universal selling facts it is just that most of the CMOs
in Pakistan have less exposure to those theories and strategies and for the
people who have and are in regular touch with markets like US and India pick
these up in 1 go.
Thanks.
*
On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 2:25 PM, liveunplug...@hotmail.com <
bmugh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> *This is the strategy:
> Get people used to M-Commerce through an 'Open Consumer System' since there
> is no other way to educate the Pakistani public and once they start
> interacting they will ultimately come to know the crux of this whole effort.
> A general consumer needs a 'hands-on' experience at such a mass level value
> added service being introduced in the country and since most of our
> population does not believe in 'subscription' hence this is the only way
> they will start knowing about alternative way of commerce. Some one had to
> take this initiative. Last year I was encouraging another operator on the
> similar lines and also had sent them brochures for various VAS Kiosks to
> start the awareness campaigning in order for the public to start using the
> value added services, however they seemed null about this whole thing, but
> in the end I'm happy that at least someone kicked off a similar Idea! for
> our people.
> There are various flaws in EP's tv commercial and newspaper ads, they left
> number of gaps which could turn into threats if competitor reacts
> proactively, but that is a total separate debate and maybe not fit for this
> distribution list. Product and Concept as far as these both things go and
> the road taken to infiltrate into the consumers - no doubt, outclass. This
> is a good utilization of a banking unit.
> EP is going to evolve into a much bigger category of things - they are day
> and night in consultation with various stakeholders to improve this. That's
> the way you win when you bring in more heads and generate 1000 ideas instead
> of sitting in a confined environment and developing products. 3 years ago I
> had introduced a P&G model to even some P&G people which they weren't aware
> of, of how to link your community, consumers and competitors to develop a
> global-class product.
> How would a soap brand market their product into a non-hand washing
> segment? They will first bring the consumer to the water as a first step and
> then introduce that the soap is a vital part of cleaning yourself. The
> segments not exposed to water won't be able know the importance of a Soap
> and the segments not exposed to a Soap won't be able to signify the
> importance of a Branded Soap.
> You need to adopt a strategy to bring in a change inside the market.
> Thanks.*
> *
> *
> On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 8:14 PM, Arsalan Tariq Mir <arsalan.t...@yahoo.com
> > wrote:
>> Agreed with Faisal Naik. At the launch, I got a chance to talk to the
>> telenor team on this. They assured of their plans to go beyond just bill
>> payments.
>> So like Ammar Faheem has said "for someone who does'nt even have a bank
>> account, going to any easy-paisa agent, creating a virtual account and being
>> able to transact is a big development indeed". We must appriciate such a
>> step and look forward on how the branchless banking paradigm unviels and how
>> it will cater the unbanked population.
>>>> I heard from someone about the launch of Easy Paisa by Telenor.
>>>> I got extremely excited, that I wanted to go for the launch, but when
>>>> I just saw the web site on what it does.
>>>> I am very very very disappointed.
>>>> Imagine when you can pay for your coke, your samoosa, your amrood, and
>>>> your mango's via Mobile phone, just by sending an sms.
>>>> The telecoms have this facility, YET they do not want to promote it,
>>>> and they are NOT promoting this concept of paying via sms and mobile credit.
>>>> Telecom Marketing People, WAKE UP, start a campaign showing a Paan
>>>> wala accepting Mobile credit as payment, which he can then re-use to pay for
>>>> stuff that he wants.
>>>> Find you charge 5% let the customer descide if he wants to pay the 5%
>>>> service fee and 15% tax , but TEACH him to use his mobile balance to pay for
>>>> service, and WHY NOT ?
>>>> I hope they will do this soon enough and make money for themselves,
>>>> and for others.
>>>> Rehan Ahmed AllahWala
>>>> President & CEO - Super Technologies Inc.
>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>> "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you,
>>>> then you win."
>>>> By Gandhi.
>>>> "Think Smart, Act Fast, Learn from Others, Be Successfull"
Since Saturday morning, my PTCL DSL service has been very erratic: hangs up every so often, slows down and then spurts and frequently disconnects. This morning it has stayed connected for the last four hours; Google, msn.com, jang-group, Daily Times and NYT are fine, but is all yahoo domains and a lot of others are blocked.
On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Tariq Mufti <tariqmu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Since Saturday morning, my PTCL DSL service has been very erratic: hangs up
> every so often, slows down and then spurts and frequently disconnects. This
> morning it has stayed connected for the last four hours; Google, msn.com,
> jang-group, Daily Times and NYT are fine, but is all yahoo domains and a lot
> of others are blocked.
YES !!! i also was facing the same problem with name resolution servers of
PTCL, I switched to opendns and its working fine. just use 208.67.222.222
and u'll be good to go.
--
Thanks,
On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Tariq Mufti <tariqmu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Since Saturday morning, my PTCL DSL service has been very erratic: hangs
> up every so often, slows down and then spurts and frequently disconnects.
> This morning it has stayed connected for the last four hours; Google,
> msn.com, jang-group, Daily Times and NYT are fine, but is *all* yahoo
> domains and a lot of others are blocked.
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Faisal Khan <babushk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> All the time - switched to OpenDNS - and have never looked back! Make
> sure you enable the DNS entries in PTCL's modem itself.
> On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Tariq Mufti <tariqmu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Since Saturday morning, my PTCL DSL service has been very erratic: hangs
> up
> > every so often, slows down and then spurts and frequently disconnects.
> This
> > morning it has stayed connected for the last four hours; Google, msn.com
> ,
> > jang-group, Daily Times and NYT are fine, but is all yahoo domains and a
> lot
> > of others are blocked.
After remaining erratic and frequently disconnecting over the past week and
a half, my PTCL DSL connection has stopped functioning altogether. The DSL
light does not even blink. The router is inaccessible via 192.168.1.1 and
the tech-support people are the least helpful.
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 10:23 PM, Tee Emm <tariq.must...@gmail.com> wrote:
> *For the benefit of the list, the IP addresses for the OpenDNS servers
> are: *
> *
> -
> - 208.67.222.222
> - 208.67.220.220
> *
> -t
> On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Faisal Khan <babushk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> All the time - switched to OpenDNS - and have never looked back! Make
>> sure you enable the DNS entries in PTCL's modem itself.
>> On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Tariq Mufti <tariqmu...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Since Saturday morning, my PTCL DSL service has been very erratic: hangs
>> up
>> > every so often, slows down and then spurts and frequently disconnects.
>> This
>> > morning it has stayed connected for the last four hours; Google,
>> msn.com,
>> > jang-group, Daily Times and NYT are fine, but is all yahoo domains and a
>> lot
>> > of others are blocked.
Same prob as described by Ammar over the period described by him .....but
now from last two days its working fine and suffered only from two
disconnections compared to one every 10 min.
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 11:13 PM, Ammar Faheem <ammar.fah...@gmail.com>wrote:
> After remaining erratic and frequently disconnecting over the past week and
> a half, my PTCL DSL connection has stopped functioning altogether. The DSL
> light does not even blink. The router is inaccessible via 192.168.1.1 and
> the tech-support people are the least helpful.
> This is getting very frustrating.
> Any help or suggestions?
> On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 10:23 PM, Tee Emm <tariq.must...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> *For the benefit of the list, the IP addresses for the OpenDNS servers
>> are: *
>> *
>> -
>> - 208.67.222.222
>> - 208.67.220.220
>> *
>> -t
>> On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Faisal Khan <babushk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> All the time - switched to OpenDNS - and have never looked back! Make
>>> sure you enable the DNS entries in PTCL's modem itself.
>>> On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Tariq Mufti <tariqmu...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > Since Saturday morning, my PTCL DSL service has been very erratic:
>>> hangs up
>>> > every so often, slows down and then spurts and frequently disconnects.
>>> This
>>> > morning it has stayed connected for the last four hours; Google,
>>> msn.com,
>>> > jang-group, Daily Times and NYT are fine, but is all yahoo domains and
>>> a lot
>>> > of others are blocked.
As daft as this may sound, turn off your router, plug out the
telephone wire from the modem, then reboot. Wait a while. Can you
access the interface?
If so, try "refreshing" the settings. For copper, the settins are
0/103 (for those VPI and VCI settings). On Optic, it's 8/81 (or 82 -
can't remember).
You'll need your DSL username and password - call up 1218 and ask for
the supervisor, or a technical support officer if the frontline CSRs
can't help (which is a 90% probability).
Note that it can be isolated to your exchanges as well.
On Nov 10, 3:13 pm, tenveer <ten.v...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Same prob as described by Ammar over the period described by him .....but
> now from last two days its working fine and suffered only from two
> disconnections compared to one every 10 min.
> On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 11:13 PM, Ammar Faheem <ammar.fah...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > After remaining erratic and frequently disconnecting over the past week and
> > a half, my PTCL DSL connection has stopped functioning altogether. The DSL
> > light does not even blink. The router is inaccessible via 192.168.1.1 and
> > the tech-support people are the least helpful.
> > This is getting very frustrating.
> > Any help or suggestions?
> > On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 10:23 PM, Tee Emm <tariq.must...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> *For the benefit of the list, the IP addresses for the OpenDNS servers
> >> are: *
> >> *
> >> On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Faisal Khan <babushk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> All the time - switched to OpenDNS - and have never looked back! Make
> >>> sure you enable the DNS entries in PTCL's modem itself.
> >>> On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Tariq Mufti <tariqmu...@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> > Since Saturday morning, my PTCL DSL service has been very erratic:
> >>> hangs up
> >>> > every so often, slows down and then spurts and frequently disconnects.
> >>> This
> >>> > morning it has stayed connected for the last four hours; Google,
> >>> msn.com,
> >>> > jang-group, Daily Times and NYT are fine, but is all yahoo domains and
> >>> a lot
> >>> > of others are blocked.
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