Seven Technologies That Will Rock 2011

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Haris Shamsi

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So here we are in a new decade, and the technologies that are now available to us continue to engage (and enthrall) in fascinating ways. The rise and collision of several trends—social, mobile, touch computing, geo, cloud—keep spitting out new products and technologies which keep propelling us forward. Below I highlight seven technologies that are ready to tip into the mainstream 2011.

Before I get into my predictions, let’s see how I did last year, when I wrote “Ten Technologies That Will Rock 2010.” Some of my picks were spot on: the Tablet (hello, iPad), Geo (Foursquare, Gowalla, Facebook Places, mobile location-aware search, etc.), Realtime Search (it became an option on Google) and Android (now even bigger than the iPhone). Some are still playing out: HTML5 (it’s made great strides, but isn’t quite here yet), Augmented Reality (lots of cool apps have AR functionality, but for the most part it is still a parlor trick), Mobile Video (FaceTime and streaming video apps pushed it forward), Mobile Transactions (Square and other transaction processing options came onto the scene), and Social CRM (Salesforce pushed Chatter, and tons of social CRM startups pushed their wares, but enterprises are always slow to adopt). And one got pushed to 2011: Chrome OS (we are still waiting).

What’s in store for 2011? Some of these themes will continue to evolve, and some new ones will gain currency. Here are seven technologies poised to rock the new year:

  1. Web Video On Your TV: We’ve already seen many attempts to turn the Internet into a video-delivery pipe to rival cable TV: Google TV, Apple TV, the Boxee Box, Roku, and a slew of “Internet-enabled” TVs.  None of them are quite yet cable killers, but they are seeding the market with simple ways to bring Internet video to your large-screen TV in the living room. The more cable-quality video that becomes available over the Web via streaming services such as Netflix, Vudu, or iTunes, the more that people will turn to Web when they are looking for something to watch. This trend is not about surfing the Web on your TV. Nobody wants to do that. It is about using the Internet as an alternative way to deliver movies and TV shows to your flat-screen TV. Even the cable companies will dip their toes into the Internet delivery waters (or plunge deeper if they already have their toes wet). What looks like a pale competitor to cable today will be a lot more viable in a short, twelve months.
  2. Quora Will Have Its Twitter Moment: Social Q&A site Quora may be the current darling of Silicon Valley, but not a lot of people beyond the insular tech startup world actually use it yet. That will start to change in 2011, which I believe will be the year Quora has its Twitter moment and start to really take off. Quora represents a bigger technology trend, which is the layering of an interest graph on top of people’s social graph. On Quora, you can follow not only people, but topics and questions. It defines the world by your interests, not just the people you may know or admire. This is a powerful concept and is not limited to Quora (both Twitter and Facebook also want to own the interest graph), but Quora is designed from the ground up to expose and help you explore your interests. It is addictive, and as it reaches a critical mass of early users, this will be the year it emerges from its shell much like Twitter did in 2007.
  3. Mobile Social Photo Apps:The end of 2010 witnessed a spate of mobile photo apps including Instagram, PicPlz and Path. They all take advantage of several massive key trends: the growth of iPhone and Android, the ubiquity of decent cell phone cameras, GPS, and existing social networks like Facebook, Twitter, and Foursquare. Each of these apps is built for mobile first. They let you take a picture, mark your location, and share it with your social network (sometimes public, sometimes private). With Instagram and PicPLz, you can choose a filter to make humdrum pics look more exciting or capture a mood. By building on top of existing social networks like Twitter and Foursquare, they are making popular new ways to use those services. Instead of simply checking in, now you can do a photo checkin (even Foursquare lets you do that now). Already Instagram is one of the most popular photo apps in iTunes. Sharing photos is pretty much a universal impulse, and these apps make it easier and more fun.
  4. Mobile Wallets: If you could use your cell phone as a credit card, would you? Everyone from Apple and Google to Nokia want to make that a reality and tap into the mobile payments market. Both Apple and Google are exploring this opportunity. Google bought mobile payments startup Zetawire to gain experience and the latest Android phone, the Nexus S, comes with an NFC chip—the same kind that is embedded into credit cards and lets you pay by waving it over a wireless reader. The iPhone 5 also may come equipped with an NFC chip, and Apple was sniffing around mobile payments startup BOKU last year for a possible acquisition. It is going to take more than just NFC chips in every phone to make mobile payments a reality, but efforts by the major players this year should begin to move the needle.
  5. Context-Aware Apps: Whether it’s search, mobile, or social apps and services, the most useful apps people will keep coming back to are the ones which help people cut through the increasing clutter of the Internet. Apps that are aware of the context in which they are being used will serve up better filtered information. When you search on your mobile phone, that means you get local results and local offers served up first. If you are on a service like Quora that understands your interest graph, it means that you are only shown topics that you care about, sorted in realtime. If you are on a news site, you will see the most shared links from people in you follow on Twitter or are connected to on Facebook. Music and movie services will similarly surface social recommendations. In a world of information overload, context is king.
  6. Open Places Database: Every mobile app, it seems, taps into the geo capabilities of phones to pinpoint your exact location and show you what is around you. (Incidentally, that is another example of a context-aware app). But there is a lot of duplication going on, with everyone from Google to Facebook to Foursquare creating their own database of places. It would make much more sense if there was an open places database that any company could both pull from and contribute to. While we are not there yet, we are making progress towards a more open places database, or at least a federated one. Factual is providing some of the data for Facebook Places and creating a places database is a major focus for the company; MapQuest (owned by AOL, as is TechCrunch) is adopting OpenStreetMaps (which could very well become the central places database with more resources and development); and Foursquare lets other apps pull from its places database through its API. There are economic reasons why some companies don’t want to participate (controlling the places database makes it easier to serve up local offers), but expect to see this movement pick up steam in 2011.
  7. The Streaming Cloud: As all media moves to the cloud, more and more people will stream their movies and music whenever they want to any device. I’ve already mentioned the forces that will bring Web video streaming to your TV, but those movies and TV shows should also be available on your iPads, Android Tablets, or even mobile phones if you want. Expiring downloads will still make sense for plane trips and other places where the network is spotty, but you will manage your subscriptions and collections in the cloud. Think Netflix streaming applied to all media. If Google or Apple can convince the record companies to come along for the ride, the streaming revolution will hit music as well, with both working on jukebox-in-the-sky services. Why would you want to bother with managing all the download rights for the songs you buy from iTunes between your iPhone, iPad, laptop, and your wife’s computer, when you could just sign in form anywhere and start streaming? Plenty have tried with varying degrees of success and failure (Rhapsody, Rdio, Spotify), but it will take someone with the negotiating muscle of Apple or Google to finally bring streaming music to the masses.


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Shahzad Ahmad

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Jan 3, 2011, 6:26:04 AM1/3/11
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Do we know that how much total bandwidth lands in Pakistan? Any authentic source from where I can get this information?

 

This info used to be available on ISPAK but that website is now down for ages.

 

Best wishes

Shahzad

 

Wahaj us Siraj

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Kindly check http://ispak.com.pk/. The site was never down to the best
of my knowledge.

Kind regards....Wahaj

Shahzad Ahmad

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Wahaj bhai,

It is down for last many months... still not opening up :(

Best wishes
Shahzad

Kind regards....Wahaj

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Inspirex

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Not working for me.

Just tested the link right now. Im on PTCL btw.

Imtiaz N.

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Haris Shamsi

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Not working for me either
/HS

Haris Shamsi

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DNS issues, is it happening only with me? is any one able to resolve the domain ? Kindly share

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
C:\>nslookup
Default Server:  intranet.ems.local
Address:  192.168.1.5

> ispak.com.pk
Server:  intranet.ems.local
Address:  192.168.1.5

*** intranet.ems.local can't find ispak.com.pk: Server failed
>
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

PKNIC records shows name servers as

ns1.reinventinc.com, ns2.reinventinc.com

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Response from Names Servers

> server        ns1.reinventinc.com
Default Server:  ns1.reinventinc.com
Address:  74.205.8.154

> ispak.com.pk
Server:  ns1.reinventinc.com
Address:  74.205.8.154

*** ns1.reinventinc.com can't find ispak.com.pk: Server failed

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Ammar Faheem

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Jan 5, 2011, 3:04:56 AM1/5/11
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I tried accessing it from UAE too, not working.

On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 11:51 AM, Inspirex <insp...@gmail.com> wrote:

Jamal Shamsi

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not working -
 
JS
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Subject: Re: Bandwidth to Pakistan?

Arshad

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Its working here....No problems with Micronet Broadband / Nayatel network. PTCL may be filtering it on its network....But why?

BR.....Arshad

Majid Farid

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Same here Harris. DNS issue.

/Majid
> > On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 11:51 AM, Inspirex <inspi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> Not working for me.
>
> >> Just tested the link right now. Im on PTCL btw.
>
> >> Imtiaz N.
>
> >> On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 10:17 AM, Wahaj us Siraj <wa...@dsl.net.pk> wrote:
> >> > Kindly checkhttp://ispak.com.pk/. The site was never down to the best
> >> > of my knowledge.
>
> >> > Kind regards....Wahaj
>
> >> > On Jan 3, 4:26 pm, "Shahzad Ahmad" <shah...@bytesforall.net> wrote:
> >> >> Do we know that how much total bandwidth lands in Pakistan? Any
> >> authentic
> >> >> source from where I can get this information?
>
> >> >> This info used to be available on ISPAK but that website is now down
> >> for
> >> >> ages.
>
> >> >> Best wishes
>
> >> >> Shahzad
>
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Sameer Bokhari

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Non-authoritative answer:
ispak.com.pk    nameserver = ns1.reinventinc.com
ispak.com.pk    nameserver = ns2.reinventinc.com

ns1.reinventinc.com     internet address = 74.205.8.154
ns2.reinventinc.com     internet address = 69.20.19.51

> server ns1.reinventinc.com
Default Server:  ns1.reinventinc.com
Address:  74.205.8.154

> ispak.com.pk
Server:  ns1.reinventinc.com
Address:  74.205.8.154

*** ns1.reinventinc.com can't find ispak.com.pk: Server failed
> ispak.com.pk
Server:  ns1.reinventinc.com
Address:  74.205.8.154

*** ns1.reinventinc.com can't find ispak.com.pk: Server failed
>

Sameer Bokhari

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Jan 5, 2011, 3:33:15 AM1/5/11
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The site would not be of much help if you are looking for latest figures..

Shahzad Ahmad

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So in short, we do not have this information listed on any credible source?

 

A friend in PTA told me that it is 19Gbps while I saw the figure of 65gbps on ISPAK website, which unfortunately is not accessible any more.

 

What to do?

 

Any other possible source?

 

Shahzad

 

 

 

 

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Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 2:37 PM
To: telecom-gr...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bandwidth to Pakistan?

 

DNS issues, is it happening only with me? is any one able to resolve the domain ? Kindly share

Shahzad Ahmad

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Okay, but at least we will have SOME figure with a reference to quote.

Isn't it important information folks? And so sad that we do not have listed
it anywhere.

I have read complete annual report of PTA looking for this, it is even not
there :(

PTCL Website doesn't have it. On the following link:

http://teletimesinternational.com/special/543/transworld-pakistan%E2%80%99s-
first-and-only-private-submarine-cable-operator

The only mention I could get is:

"In early 2005, Pakistan's total broadband user base was a mere 15,000 users
with the total bandwidth usage being 15 Gbps. By the end of 2010, the number
of total broadband users is expected to rise up to 1.09 million consuming an
impressive 60.4 Gbps of bandwidth (www.pta.gov.pk)."

Best
Shahzad


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Ahmed Sajjad Zaidi

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Looks like both a PKNIC and reinventinc issue.

PKNIC's Pakistani servers (ns.pknic.net.pkm-2.pknic.net.pk) don't return a record for this domain, regardless of the network you're on:


; <<>> DiG 9.7.1-P2 <<>> @m-2.pknic.net.pk ispak.com.pk NS
; (1 server found)
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: SERVFAIL, id: 39799
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;ispak.com.pk. IN NS

;; Query time: 1791 msec
;; SERVER: 203.128.7.123#53(203.128.7.123)
;; WHEN: Wed Jan  5 17:10:40 2011
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 30

The same query works for other .pk domains.

The US servers (AUTH101.NS.UU.NET and AUTH51.NS.UU.NET) return ns1.reinventinc.com and ns2.reinventinc.com as the name servers, but these don't serve anything for ispak.com.pk:


; <<>> DiG 9.7.1-P2 <<>> @ns2.reinventinc.com ispak.com.pk
; (1 server found)
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: SERVFAIL, id: 2244
;; flags: qr rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0
;; WARNING: recursion requested but not available

;; QUESTION SECTION:

;; Query time: 235 msec
;; SERVER: 69.20.19.51#53(69.20.19.51)
;; WHEN: Wed Jan  5 17:15:17 2011
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 30


Regards,
Ahmed Sajjad

Faried Nawaz

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Jan 5, 2011, 8:04:27 AM1/5/11
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Ahmed Sajjad Zaidi <sajja...@gmail.com> writes:

> Looks like both a PKNIC and *reinventinc* issue.
>
> PKNIC's Pakistani servers (*ns.pknic.net.pk*, *m-2.pknic.net.pk*) don't


> return a record for this domain, regardless of the network you're on:

No, they both have the (same) answers. It has to do with how you query the
server, because m-2 and ns are set up differently:

$ dig +norecurse @m-2.pknic.net.pk. ispak.com.pk. ns

; <<>> DiG 9.7.0-P1 <<>> +norecurse @m-2.pknic.net.pk. ispak.com.pk. ns


; (1 server found)
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:

;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 54933
;; flags: qr ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 2

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;ispak.com.pk. IN NS

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
ispak.com.pk. 38400 IN NS ns1.reinventinc.com.
ispak.com.pk. 38400 IN NS ns2.reinventinc.com.

;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
ns1.reinventinc.com. 431 IN A 74.205.8.154
ns2.reinventinc.com. 431 IN A 69.20.19.51

;; Query time: 11 msec
;; SERVER: 203.128.7.123#53(203.128.7.123)
;; WHEN: Wed Jan 5 18:03:29 2011
;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 113

$


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Tee Emm

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Take 30 GB/S as a guesstimate (PTCL and TWA combined).

There are a number of variables here and too many reluctant gurus to
give you a near accurate answer.

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Haris Shamsi

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@ Arshad - i think this domain is only available through Micronet/Nayatel DNS Servers .... and you must be having a local entry or some thing and the site is also hosted there ... try resolving it from any where outside micronet/nayatel and i guess you wont be able to resolve it

/HS

Shahzad Ahmad

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Finally the ISPAK website is up but on a different domain. Thanks to the
kind help by Wahaj.

...and the figure is:

~105,000 Mbits combined from PTCL and TWA

www.ispak.pk

best wishes
Shahzad

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Shahzad Ahmad

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Woahaaaa...

Now PTA website is no more :( Resolving at totally irrelevant page. See
attached.

Hope it is NOT some cyberwarfare issue... May be Babus at PTA forgotten to
pay the hosting fee, resultantly the website is off air ;)

Sucks! No?

Best
Shahzad


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PTA.jpg

Majid Farid

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Jan 5, 2011, 3:36:52 PM1/5/11
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Agreed i can;t resolve it either..use Google global DNS I get no reply
in A entry

mfarid@mfarid-laptop:~$ dig www.ispak.com.pk @8.8.8.8

; <<>> DiG 9.7.1-P2 <<>> www.ispak.com.pk @8.8.8.8
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: SERVFAIL, id: 56201
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;www.ispak.com.pk. IN A

;; Query time: 855 msec
;; SERVER: 8.8.8.8#53(8.8.8.8)
;; WHEN: Thu Jan 6 00:34:53 2011
;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 34




On Jan 5, 9:27 pm, Haris Shamsi <haris.sha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> @ Arshad - i think this domain is only available through Micronet/Nayatel
> DNS Servers .... and you must be having a local entry or some thing and the
> site is also hosted there ... try resolving it from any where outside
> micronet/nayatel and i guess you wont be able to resolve it
>
> /HS
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 3:01 PM, Arshad <mars...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Its working here....No problems with Micronet Broadband / Nayatel network.
> > PTCL may be filtering it on its network....But why?
>
> > BR.....Arshad
>
> > On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 2:37 PM, Haris Shamsi <haris.sha...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> >> DNS issues, is it happening only with me? is any one able to resolve the
> >> domain ? Kindly share
>
> >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >> C:\>nslookup
> >> Default Server:  intranet.ems.local
> >> Address:  192.168.1.5
>
> >> > ispak.com.pk
> >> Server:  intranet.ems.local
> >> Address:  192.168.1.5
>
> >> *** intranet.ems.local can't find ispak.com.pk: Server failed
>
> >> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> >> PKNIC records shows name servers as
>
> >> ns1.reinventinc.com, ns2.reinventinc.com
>
> >> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> >> Response from Names Servers
>
> >> > server        ns1.reinventinc.com
> >> Default Server:  ns1.reinventinc.com
> >> Address:  74.205.8.154
>
> >> > ispak.com.pk
> >> Server:  ns1.reinventinc.com
> >> Address:  74.205.8.154
>
> >> *** ns1.reinventinc.com can't find ispak.com.pk: Server failed
>
> >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> >> On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 1:28 PM, Haris Shamsi <haris.sha...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> >>> Not working for me either
> >>> /HS
>
> >>> On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 11:51 AM, Inspirex <inspi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>> Not working for me.
>
> >>>> Just tested the link right now. Im on PTCL btw.
>
> >>>> Imtiaz N.
>
> >>>> On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 10:17 AM, Wahaj us Siraj <wa...@dsl.net.pk>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>> > Kindly checkhttp://ispak.com.pk/. The site was never down to the
> >>>> best
> >>>> > of my knowledge.
>
> >>>> > Kind regards....Wahaj
>
> >>>> > On Jan 3, 4:26 pm, "Shahzad Ahmad" <shah...@bytesforall.net> wrote:
> >>>> >> Do we know that how much total bandwidth lands in Pakistan? Any
> >>>> authentic
> >>>> >> source from where I can get this information?
>
> >>>> >> This info used to be available on ISPAK but that website is now down
> >>>> for
> >>>> >> ages.
>
> >>>> >> Best wishes
>
> >>>> >> Shahzad
>
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Wahaj us Siraj

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Jan 5, 2011, 11:08:38 PM1/5/11
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I'm really sorry. There was a domain expiry issue that has gone
unnoticed. Now it's available at the new domain http://ispak.pk/. I
apologize from all friends for the trouble.

Kind regards....Wahaj

On Jan 5, 11:41 am, "Shahzad Ahmad" <shah...@bytesforall.net> wrote:
> Wahaj bhai,
>
> It is down for last many months... still not opening up :(
>
> Best wishes
> Shahzad
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: telecom-gr...@googlegroups.com
>
> [mailto:telecom-gr...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Wahaj us Siraj
> Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 10:17 AM
> To: Telecom Grid Pakistan
> Subject: Re: Bandwidth to Pakistan?
>
> Kindly checkhttp://ispak.com.pk/. The site was never down to the best

Jamal Shamsi

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Jan 5, 2011, 11:58:53 PM1/5/11
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www.pta.gov.pk - is also up & working !

Tee Emm

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Jan 6, 2011, 2:24:15 AM1/6/11
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At $10,000 an STM1, the domestic market thus spends around Rs 6.6b per year on around 650 STM1s and the forex flowing out of Pakistan for all this transit bandwidth could be estimated at 3.3b Rs/yr (or ~40m USD/yr) assuming a 50% difference between the cost incurred and the price offered to local market in Pakistan.

Case for IX and local contents again! :)

Tariq Mustafa

Inspirex

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Jan 6, 2011, 1:45:40 AM1/6/11
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Im getting Default Plesk Parallels Page. :S

Imtiaz N.

On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 9:58 AM, Jamal Shamsi <jamal....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> www.pta.gov.pk - is also up & working !
>

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Fawad Niazi

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Jan 6, 2011, 2:35:04 AM1/6/11
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What would be the local caching part in it to save the intl bandwidth and cost by operators?

Tee Emm

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Jan 6, 2011, 2:49:12 AM1/6/11
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At the levels of traffic where currently both PTCL and TWA are, the caching benefit is probably less than 10%. (At enterprise and end customers levels where contents, interests and tastes often recur within the group, this can be as high has 35%). Caching solutions experts here can give further accurate numbers based on their experience.

-T

Inspirex

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Jan 6, 2011, 2:46:11 AM1/6/11
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The case for Local IX and Local content has never ended!

Until and unless we have localized context for content, all of our
internet needs will be served internationally. The moment we start
localizing content, hosting services etc, we will increase local
internet penetration as well.

The 650-750k or so broadband customers dont seem to be increasing at
any tremendous rate, until and unless we create new markets for
content consumption. i.e, local language content, that fulfills local
needs.

The first step towards localization is if news sites and streaming
media CDNs are either mirrored, or completely hosted locally. That
alone will give a lot of confidence to other local entities to host
their servers in Pakistan.

Any ISPAK members willing to convince big media to trust Pakistan?

Best,

Imtiaz N.

On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 12:24 PM, Tee Emm <tariq....@gmail.com> wrote:

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Majid Farid

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Jan 6, 2011, 3:14:02 AM1/6/11
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Do we have traffic profiling on the transit traffic outside Pakistan?

I know for example Sprint do a lot of traffic profiling and based on
traffic pattern they select the peering partner. Arbor Networks has
some very good products to do that.

Are any ISP/SP talking CDN like Akamai, CDNetwork, Edgecast etc for
local Pakistani peering?


I remember at one time Akamai required a 100 mbps connection and a
rack spare in your network and that was it. I am sure the revenue
model will be attractive as well.

http://www.akamai.com/html/partners/network_partner.html

If you are able to attach to these CDN network then local peering will
become an excellent source of cost saving.

/Majid




On Jan 6, 11:24 am, Tee Emm <tariq.must...@gmail.com> wrote:
> At $10,000 an STM1, the domestic market thus spends around Rs 6.6b per year
> on around 650 STM1s and the forex flowing out of Pakistan for all this
> transit bandwidth could be estimated at 3.3b Rs/yr (or ~40m USD/yr) assuming
> a 50% difference between the cost incurred and the price offered to local
> market in Pakistan.
>
> Case for IX and local contents again! :)
>
> Tariq Mustafa
> Place<http://maps.google.com/maps/place?cid=2123629025978633436&q=multinet&...>
>
> On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 10:02 PM, Shahzad Ahmad <shah...@bytesforall.net>wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Finally the ISPAK website is up but on a different domain. Thanks to the
> > kind help by Wahaj.
>
> > ...and the figure is:
>
> > ~105,000 Mbits combined from PTCL and TWA
>
> >www.ispak.pk
>
> > best wishes
> > Shahzad
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: telecom-gr...@googlegroups.com
> > [mailto:telecom-gr...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tee Emm
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 9:37 PM
> > To: telecom-gr...@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: Re: Bandwidth to Pakistan?
>
> > Take 30 GB/S as a guesstimate (PTCL and TWA combined).
>
> > There are a number of variables here and too many reluctant gurus to
> > give you a near accurate answer.
>
> > -T
>

Shahzad Ahmad

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Jan 6, 2011, 4:09:37 AM1/6/11
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Had written a quick note to the Chairman PTA last night.

The website is now restored. As anticipated, the Babus missed the deadline
for payment of hosting charges ;)

Best wishes
Shahzad

Arshad

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Jan 11, 2011, 4:18:16 AM1/11/11
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Dear All,

The ISPAK website is active with domain name www.ispak.pk

BR

Arshad
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