Youtube video - risk management and climate change

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Peter Allen

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Feb 8, 2010, 5:48:49 AM2/8/10
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Hi Everyone,

if you know me, you know I hate chain emails - you know -  "forward  this to as many friends as you can" stuff.

But this Youtube video  is worth watching  -  sure its about climate change and people are already becoming jaded about it.

But it cuts right to the heart of the matter without  going into long winded scientific debate.

At the end of the video  the presenter asks you to  forward this video onto ten friends.  If you feel as though the video  has made a difference to your views  I encourage you to forward it on.

Thanks

Peter Allen


Peter Allen

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Feb 8, 2010, 5:56:41 AM2/8/10
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and the link is : -  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mF_anaVcCXg    ( duh )

Michael Coghlan

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Feb 8, 2010, 9:37:32 PM2/8/10
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I saw this vid some time ago and it did change the way I think about global warming. The risk of taking no action is just too great.

- Michael

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Janet Hawtin

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Feb 8, 2010, 9:42:55 PM2/8/10
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On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 1:07 PM, Michael Coghlan <mich...@chariot.net.au> wrote:
> I saw this vid some time ago and it did change the way I think about global
> warming. The risk of taking no action is just too great.
>
> - Michael

And yet the farming paddocks and trees are still flattened for rashes
of courtyard homes.
In SA we are still very much in the business of paying to desertify
the remaining arable land in the state.
salut
j

Steven Parker

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Feb 8, 2010, 10:03:02 PM2/8/10
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It's also a great resource for those teaching rhetoric to students to bring well meaning people to a predetermined conclusions through use the precautionary principle in socratic argument with predetermined questions and answers, (Or delphi techique) .
 
 
Nice piece of work. Great stuff!!! :-)
 

Steven Parker

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Feb 8, 2010, 10:15:41 PM2/8/10
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Good explanation of the teaching method.

LeighBlackall

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Feb 8, 2010, 11:01:39 PM2/8/10
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Do you think it adequately considers the risks of the action?
Biofuels, ETS, and new taxes are just three examples of actions with
risks outweighing the risk of inaction.

On Feb 9, 2:15 pm, Steven Parker <sparke...@gmail.com> wrote:
> http://www.answers.com/topic/socratic-method
>
> Good explanation of the teaching method.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 2:03 PM, Steven Parker <sparke...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > It's also a great resource for those teaching rhetoric to students to bring
> > well meaning people to a predetermined conclusions through use the
> > precautionary principle in socratic argument with predetermined questions
> > and answers, (Or delphi techique) .
>
> >http://www.eagleforum.org/educate/1998/nov98/focus.html
>
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Precautionary_principle
>
> > Nice piece of work. Great stuff!!! :-)
>
> > On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 9:56 PM, Peter Allen <pgp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> and the link is : -  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mF_anaVcCXg   ( duh
> >> )
>
> >> On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 9:18 PM, Peter Allen <pgp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>> Hi Everyone,
>

> >>> if you know me, you know I hate *chain email*s - you know -  "*forward
> >>> this to as many friends as you can*" stuff.
>
> >>> But this Youtube video  is worth watching  -  sure its about *climate
> >>> change* and people are already becoming jaded about it.

Steven Parker

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Feb 9, 2010, 7:04:31 AM2/9/10
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ag7kLCGH0NY

For a grim chuckle. "We have a composting infraction!"

Steven Parker

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Feb 17, 2010, 5:22:55 PM2/17/10
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ince climategate it's been very interesting the revelations on the IPPC shonky climate data.
 
To wrap up my contribution to this  thread this article discussion relates to the impacts on scientific 'education'.
 
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB20001424052748704107104574572091993737848.html - Credibility of science in question.
 
"Beneath this dispute is a relatively new, very postmodern environmental idea known as "the precautionary principle." As defined by one official version: "When an activity raises threats of harm to the environment or human health, precautionary measures should be taken even if some cause and effect relationships are not fully established scientifically." The global-warming establishment says we know "enough" to impose new rules on the world's use of carbon fuels. The dissenters say this demotes science's traditional standards of evidence."
 
"If the new ethos is that "close-enough" science is now sufficient to achieve political goals, serious scientists (AND EDUCATORS) should be under no illusion that politicians will press-gang them into service for future agendas . Everyone working in science (EDUCATION), no matter their politics, has an stake in cleaning up the mess revealed by the East Anglia emails. Science is on the credibility bubble. If it pops, centuries of what we understand to be the role of science go with it. "
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