Study Stickies: Social note taking from books, videos, podcasts, etc.

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Amir Michail

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May 4, 2007, 8:09:09 AM5/4/07
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Hi,

Study Stickies allows you to better understand and remember books
(both printed and online), videos, podcasts, online documents, etc.

http://studystickies.com

In particular, you can use the service to add notes to your textbooks
without using (real) stickies or marking them up in any way. This
allows you to more easily browse and search through your notes in one
place while keeping your books in good condition.

You can, if you like, share your notes with others. Sharing of notes
allows users of the service to learn from each other. For example, if
you get stuck on some topic in your textbook, you can see if anyone
has made any insightful notes about it.

Amir

Amir Michail

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Jun 4, 2007, 4:52:37 PM6/4/07
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On May 4, 8:09 am, Amir Michail <amich...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Study Stickiesallows you to better understand and remember books

> (both printed and online), videos, podcasts, online documents, etc.
>
> http://studystickies.com

I was wondering if anyone here has tried this out yet.

I would like to launch it soon so any feedback would be appreciated,
particularly concerning day to day usage issues.

If something about the service is unclear, please let me know.

Amir

Shaggy

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Jun 4, 2007, 6:13:51 PM6/4/07
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it looks to me like the main purpose is to generate amazon affiliate
revenue - the site seems to be a front end for the dbpedia dataset
http://dbpedia.org/docs/ linked to the amazon shopping engine with
limited real-world application. Notemesh would be a better option if
you were interested in this sort of thing: http://www.notemesh.com/notemesh.php?a=home


Amir Michail

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Jun 4, 2007, 6:22:10 PM6/4/07
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Well, no, this has nothing to do with generating amazon affiliate revenue.

Wikipedia was used to seed the site so you can see what it looks like
with lots of data.

Notemesh is interesting but appears to be intended for creating a
common set of notes using a wiki for a particular offering of a
course.

Study Stickies is not like that. You create your own notes and link
to other people's notes if you like. The notes need not be
associated with any offering of a course.

Amir

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Amir Michail

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Jun 4, 2007, 7:07:56 PM6/4/07
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On 6/4/07, Amir Michail <amic...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 6/4/07, Shaggy <bothere...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > it looks to me like the main purpose is to generate amazon affiliate
> > revenue - the site seems to be a front end for the dbpedia dataset
> > http://dbpedia.org/docs/ linked to the amazon shopping engine with
> > limited real-world application. Notemesh would be a better option if
> > you were interested in this sort of thing: http://www.notemesh.com/notemesh.php?a=home
> >
>
> Well, no, this has nothing to do with generating amazon affiliate revenue.

Thanks for pointing me to this affiliate program though! This might
be something I could do if Study Stickies were to become popular.

I was also not aware of the dbpedia.org site. Looks interesting.

Amir

alexanderhayes

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Jun 5, 2007, 2:27:00 AM6/5/07
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Greetings Amir.

It's nice to hear back from a developer who has a social conscience.
What do you think provoked Shaggy to say so and how would you dispel
the myth without being defensive ?

We are seeking open accords and transparent business practice that
generates goodwill and open content amongst a million other real
reasons to remain an educator.

Any ideas ? Any integrations with MediaWiki ? If so say so :-)

On Jun 5, 8:13 am, Shaggy <botheredbyb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> it looks to me like the main purpose is to generate amazon affiliate

> revenue - the site seems to be a front end for the dbpedia datasethttp://dbpedia.org/docs/linked to the amazon shopping engine with

Amir Michail

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Jun 5, 2007, 9:28:54 AM6/5/07
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On 6/5/07, alexanderhayes <alexander...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Greetings Amir.
>
> It's nice to hear back from a developer who has a social conscience.
> What do you think provoked Shaggy to say so and how would you dispel
> the myth without being defensive ?
>

It's hard to know what a site is about without using it for a while.

Moreover, even though Study Stickies is not currently in the amazon
affiliate program, so what if it were? What would be wrong with that?

From the perspective of the user, a site that makes money is one that
is more likely to stay around for a long time and improve its
services.

Amir

Shaggy

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Jun 5, 2007, 5:51:55 PM6/5/07
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Hi again Amir,
first off, I owe you an apology, I really thought you were scamming
with your first post (replying to your own posting with a question
just didn't look right).

On the affiliate front, I don't think there's anything wrong with it,
as long as that wasn't the prime reason for building the site.

Having said that, I'm still not sold on the idea of sticky studies -
I've tried to get into from a teacher's and a student's point of view
and can't seem to get any traction. Probably because I haven't tried
it out for long enough, but that's the point really, if it doesn't
give enough to start off with people aren't going to want to add more
(and they'll still only represent a few percent of your users).

I wasn't overly excited by the interface and colour scheme either, but
again, that's a personal preference.

I've got to get to work now, but for my money - I'd wouldn't make the
instructions a permanent fixture - having read them once was enough
and they take up too much screen real estate after that, and the flash
demo took too long to download. And perhaps a little padding in the
sidebars would be more pleasing to the eye.

All the best,
shaggy

On Jun 5, 11:28 pm, "Amir Michail" <amich...@gmail.com> wrote:


> On 6/5/07, alexanderhayes <alexanderhayes1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Greetings Amir.
>
> > It's nice to hear back from a developer who has a social conscience.
> > What do you think provoked Shaggy to say so and how would you dispel
> > the myth without being defensive ?
>
> It's hard to know what a site is about without using it for a while.
>
> Moreover, even though Study Stickies is not currently in the amazon
> affiliate program, so what if it were? What would be wrong with that?
>
> From the perspective of the user, a site that makes money is one that
> is more likely to stay around for a long time and improve its
> services.
>
> Amir
>
> > We are seeking open accords and transparent business practice that
> > generates goodwill and open content amongst a million other real
> > reasons to remain an educator.
>
> > Any ideas ? Any integrations with MediaWiki ? If so say so :-)
>
> > On Jun 5, 8:13 am, Shaggy <botheredbyb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > it looks to me like the main purpose is to generate amazon affiliate

> > > revenue - the site seems to be a front end for the dbpedia datasethttp://dbpedia.org/docs/linkedto the amazon shopping engine with

Amir Michail

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Jun 5, 2007, 6:01:00 PM6/5/07
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On 6/5/07, Shaggy <bothere...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi again Amir,
> first off, I owe you an apology, I really thought you were scamming
> with your first post (replying to your own posting with a question
> just didn't look right).
>
> On the affiliate front, I don't think there's anything wrong with it,
> as long as that wasn't the prime reason for building the site.
>

I'm working on this startup attempt full-time. I will need to make
money at some point. There's nothing wrong with that IMO. Of course,
as I am working on this full-time, I will take your suggestions
seriously to improve the service and attract users.

> Having said that, I'm still not sold on the idea of sticky studies -
> I've tried to get into from a teacher's and a student's point of view
> and can't seem to get any traction. Probably because I haven't tried
> it out for long enough, but that's the point really, if it doesn't
> give enough to start off with people aren't going to want to add more
> (and they'll still only represent a few percent of your users).
>

It's a note taking service. It should be useful to you even if no one
else is using it.

However, I did seed it with some wikipedia content to give you
something to look at.

Why take notes at all? Several reasons:

* when you forget something, you can more easily look it up from your
notes than from the original source (particularly for printed books)

* no need to mark up your books

* rewriting concepts in your own words helps you understand them better

* other people can benefit from your notes and you can benefit from
their notes; for example, if you get stuck on page x of book y, then
see what others
thought of that page

* many people linking to your notes would give you confidence in the
correctness of your notes

* it's particularly useful for people with poor memories who need to
look up things a lot

> I wasn't overly excited by the interface and colour scheme either, but
> again, that's a personal preference.
>
> I've got to get to work now, but for my money - I'd wouldn't make the
> instructions a permanent fixture - having read them once was enough
> and they take up too much screen real estate after that, and the flash
> demo took too long to download. And perhaps a little padding in the
> sidebars would be more pleasing to the eye.
>

The instructions go away when you log in. The service is not that
useful without logging in.

Amir

Ros Byrne

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Jun 7, 2007, 1:05:41 AM6/7/07
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Amir

I think it might be useful for a project of mine, but right now I'm just
back from a week's vacation, and going through 300+ emails.

Will have another look at it next week, and let you know how I go.

ros
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Leigh Blackall

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Jun 7, 2007, 2:23:11 AM6/7/07
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Amir, all, I haven't looked at it yet - but all this chit chat is raising my interest :) I wonted to quickly support Amir's point of why "notes" would be useful. I was in a web conference this morning, and the webconference platform didn't appear to have a private note taking facility. What I needed was a little sticky note on my screen (I'm hoping Amir's development is that). This sticky note needs to manovour around my screen, not take up too much of the screen, be web based AND plug in to my other web based tools like gmail, wordpress, flickr, and others... and save my notes to the service and get them back again on another computer... is that what your developing Amir?

Shaggy

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Jun 7, 2007, 11:10:01 PM6/7/07
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Hi Leigh,
sticky studies is about annotating books. For the kind of
functionality you're after you should check out diigo ... http://www.diigo.com/
which lets you highlight and add sticky notes to any web page (and
share them if that's what you want)


On Jun 7, 4:23 pm, "Leigh Blackall" <leighblack...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Amir, all, I haven't looked at it yet - but all this chit chat is raising my
> interest :) I wonted to quickly support Amir's point of why "notes" would be
> useful. I was in a web conference this morning, and the webconference
> platform didn't appear to have a private note taking facility. What I needed
> was a little sticky note on my screen (I'm hoping Amir's development is
> that). This sticky note needs to manovour around my screen, not take up too
> much of the screen, be web based AND plug in to my other web based tools
> like gmail, wordpress, flickr, and others... and save my notes to the
> service and get them back again on another computer... is that what your
> developing Amir?
>

> On 6/7/07, Ros Byrne <Ros.By...@canberra.edu.au> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Amir
>
> > I think it might be useful for a project of mine, but right now I'm just
> > back from a week's vacation, and going through 300+ emails.
>
> > Will have another look at it next week, and let you know how I go.
>
> > ros
> > --
> > Ms Ros Byrne
> > UC CELTS Fellow
> > Adjunct Senior Lecturer, Communication and Education
> > UNIVERSITY OF CANBERRA
> > 61 (0)2 6201 2211; Room 1C109

> > Ros.By...@canberra.edu.au


> >http://www.canberra.edu.au/pmp/program/courses-date/words-work
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Leigh Blackall

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Jun 8, 2007, 5:14:30 AM6/8/07
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right on shaggy! that's what I wanted. Thanks

rgrozdanic

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Jun 8, 2007, 7:33:22 AM6/8/07
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firefox has a bunch of extensions along those lines - to do lists, post-it notes that live on and can be moved around your desktop etc

and google/blogger has that web page comment thing (bottom right corner if you have it enabled) you might be referring to, which shows you what bloggers are saying about that page

r

Leigh Blackall

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Jun 8, 2007, 5:44:47 PM6/8/07
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hmm the Google/Blogger thingy could be good.. as I want web based. Firefox sounds desktop based. No good for me - I move around too many different computers

peter allen

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Jun 8, 2007, 9:39:08 PM6/8/07
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the plug ins might work with firefox portable ..............

Amir Michail

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Aug 1, 2007, 1:23:43 PM8/1/07
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Hi,

Study Stickies is now a Facebook app:

http://www.facebook.com/apps/application.php?id=2371189229

Take notes (stickies) from printed books and online resources (e.g.,
pdf/html documents, videos, etc.). Easily retrieve important
information later and (optionally) share your knowledge with others.

Amir

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