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Janet Hawtin  
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 More options Jul 24 2007, 12:18 am
From: "Janet Hawtin" <lucych...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 13:48:10 +0930
Local: Tues, Jul 24 2007 12:18 am
Subject: Web 2.0 and education: best friends or worst enemies (Ken Price)
Hi folks

Ken Price keynoted a recent edna workshop. The powerpoint/presentation
is a ripper:
http://www.edna.edu.au/edna/webdav/site/myjahiasite/shared/workshops/...
http://www.edna.edu.au/edna/webdav/site/myjahiasite/shared/workshops/...

Janet


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Discussion subject changed to ":: TALO :: Web 2.0 and education: best friends or worst enemies (Ken Price)" by Leigh Blackall
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 More options Jul 24 2007, 6:13 pm
From: "Leigh Blackall" <leighblack...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 10:13:29 +1200
Local: Tues, Jul 24 2007 6:13 pm
Subject: Re: :: TALO :: Web 2.0 and education: best friends or worst enemies (Ken Price)

 Thanks J.

My response here:
http://learnonline.wordpress.com/2007/07/25/ken-price-on-web2-in-scho...

On 7/24/07, Janet Hawtin <lucych...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi folks

> Ken Price keynoted a recent edna workshop. The powerpoint/presentation
> is a ripper:

> http://www.edna.edu.au/edna/webdav/site/myjahiasite/shared/workshops/...

> http://www.edna.edu.au/edna/webdav/site/myjahiasite/shared/workshops/...

> Janet

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Discussion subject changed to ":: TALO :: Re: Web 2.0 and education: best friends or worst enemies (Ken Price)" by Janet Hawtin
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 More options Jul 24 2007, 6:52 pm
From: "Janet Hawtin" <lucych...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 08:22:02 +0930
Local: Tues, Jul 24 2007 6:52 pm
Subject: Re: :: TALO :: Re: Web 2.0 and education: best friends or worst enemies (Ken Price)
On 7/25/07, Leigh Blackall <leighblack...@gmail.com> wrote:

What I took from the presentation was the questioning.
I thought there were interesting questions re the teacher filming
other teachers and the implications of being always potentially
online. I thought it was useful because it was a step beyond the
binary web2 is good for you v web 2 is the end of quality and safety.

I didnt see the managable and safe phase as an end game. I saw it more
as a normalising of web 2 with the implicit expectation that society
or technology would do something else or want something else which
would again require us to make pearls of problems.

The risk I see at the moment is the strategy of using fences as solutions.
I think this generates a polarising of views around established
structures and the joy of rebelling. Those positions make it hard to
unpack the issues in a practical sense and move forward. Fences are an
organisation's answer to risk, they externalise the risk, but it is
not a social answer to risk. Fencing off the challenges is a head in
the sand process. The issues still exist. I think we need to look more
at the how of resolving freedom, signal, noise, safety, control, room
to learn and explore, transparency, privacy and I think the
presentation asks some useful questions.

Perhaps the answers will be people having a go and finding the ways
which are a good fit locally. I think it is this kind of hands on
vision or pragmatic working through the issues which we lose when the
structures lock things out. I think there is also a kind of challenge
for those of us who love distributed networked space to talk about
scaling and how we keep the personal and useful when we are the
filters.

Janet


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