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James Neill

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Aug 19, 2007, 8:05:21 PM8/19/07
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looking for the thoughts of a 1000 TALO monkeys....

i might be missing the bleeding obvious here, but maybe not:

i've asked students to create concept maps to go with their essays - many of them use MSWord of course

besides downloading and installing something like MWSnap onto a PC, can you think of an easy way they could 'capture' into an image (e.g., .png) of a diagram drawn in MSWord without downloading any additional software?

this would then be used to uploading into their blog postings, so ideally the process would be user-friendly and produce optimal file sizes for web display

(yes, I am also encouraging them to try concept mapping software - but they shouldn't HAVE to use this)

peter allen

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Aug 19, 2007, 8:37:55 PM8/19/07
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I assume  you know about  pressing ALT-Print screen on the keyboard to capture the active window  into the clipboard as a bmp file?

Nick Noakes

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Aug 19, 2007, 8:42:19 PM8/19/07
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James

You can do this within MS Office. Create the diagram in Word, then select the whole diagram (the box around it) choose copy, and them paste into something like Microsoft Picture Manager. If this saves as a bmp, then you need an intermediary step. After copying it in Word, open a new Word doc and choose paste special and select .png. After that you can copy it from the new doc in Picture Manager and it will remember you last choice for paste special, so you don't need to do this again (unless it is in a lab on a reborn card or someone has changed to another format).

However, I would strongly suggest that you get them to use MS Draw within MS PPT and then they can simply do Save As to .png - much less of a fiddle and more screen real estate making it easier to use Draw here than in Word.

Nick

(stands back and waits for someone to say how much easier it is in OpenOffice ... and it is easier on my Mac too as the default is png)

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Leigh Blackall

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Aug 19, 2007, 9:19:50 PM8/19/07
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the screengrab key pasted into the standard image editor?

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Leigh Blackall

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Aug 19, 2007, 9:20:35 PM8/19/07
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woops, bit slow off the mark. I'm a parrot monkey

Mann, Robert

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Aug 19, 2007, 9:28:02 PM8/19/07
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Agrere weith nick, select whole image box, copy and paste it should even work in MS Paint.  Never underestimate the options in paste special.

 



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Konrad Glogowski

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Aug 19, 2007, 10:08:06 PM8/19/07
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James,

Here is what I do on a PC:

Press Ctrl and PrtSc (Print Screen) at the same time (which copies the screen capture into the clipboard). Then use an image editing program (any one will do) and press Ctrl and V (or  file, new, image from clipboard in Photo Shop and most other software). Then I crop and save as jpg. Takes one minute!

Hope this helps,

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James Neill

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Aug 19, 2007, 10:12:50 PM8/19/07
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thanks everyone - this is great - i had not thought about the windows
native apps - will try this out

and what about for the mac students? - they seem to keep popping up?! :)

peter allen

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Aug 19, 2007, 10:23:00 PM8/19/07
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I'm glad you asked! :)
 
 
 

The other day, one of my coworkers called me up with this question, so I thought I would share it here. She wanted to know if there was a Mac function similar to the Print Screen button on Windoze.  In PeeCee land, for those of you who don't know, the Print Screen button on the keyboard copies the content of the current screen, so that it can be pasted into a document or program for editing, printing, etc.  In Mac, there is an easy key combination to achieve the same effects and more.  Simply hit the Command key (the Apple key next to the space bar), the Shift key, and the number 3 key simultaneously.  This takes a screen shot of the current screen and saves it to the Desktop as a pdf file.

Now, if you only want to copy a segment of the screen, hit Command + Shift + 4, and the mouse cursor will change from an arrow into cross hairs.  Simply click and drag the cross hairs over the area of the screen of which you want to take a picture.  When you release the mouse button, you will hear a clicking sound reminiscent of a camera shutter and a new file will appear on your desktop in pdf format.  Most Macs these days come with a free copy of GraphicConverter, which you can use to convert the resulting pdf file into JPEG, GIF, PNG, or whatever image format you like the best.  Have fun!

UPDATE: Dave notes in the comments: "For even MORE fun, once you use cmd + shift + 4, press the space bar and the cursor turns into a camera. Move over any window and you can take a snapshot of JUST that window. :)" Thanks, Dave!

'NOTHER UPDATE: DF adds, "If you add the control key to any of the OS X screenshot keyboard shortcuts, the screenshot is copied to the clipboard instead of being saved to a file; you can then paste it into any graphics application -- such as OS X's Preview -- and save it in any format you prefer." Thanks, DF!

 


 
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Nick Noakes

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Aug 19, 2007, 10:27:36 PM8/19/07
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Depends what program they are using for mindmapping on the Mac.

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James Neill

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Aug 20, 2007, 12:46:30 AM8/20/07
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thanks for your help!

e.g., checkout comment from student!!

"I initially created the concept map in Microsoft Word. Once printed
out, I scanned the image to my computer and saved it as a jpeg file,
that way I was able to upload it relatively quickly to my posting. There
is probably a simpler way, but it worked well for me. It was definately
a challenge, because prior to this unit, I had no idea how to do it! So
I figured I should have a pratice before I try to submit the real thing
for Blog 1. It has definately been a good learning curve for me."

rgrozdanic

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Aug 20, 2007, 2:42:37 AM8/20/07
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as the inimitable miz kylie would say, "i heart talo"


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Nick Noakes

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Aug 20, 2007, 2:52:26 AM8/20/07
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James

Why not have them use one of the Web 2.0 tools like Mindmeister, Mindomo
or Gliffy?

http://www.mindmeister.com/
http://www.mindomo.com/
http://www.gliffy.com/

Nick
> On 8/20/07, *James Neill* <li...@wilderdom.com

> <mailto:li...@wilderdom.com>> wrote:
>
>
> thanks for your help!
>
> e.g., checkout comment from student!!
>
> "I initially created the concept map in Microsoft Word. Once printed
> out, I scanned the image to my computer and saved it as a jpeg file,
> that way I was able to upload it relatively quickly to my posting.
> There
> is probably a simpler way, but it worked well for me. It was
> definately
> a challenge, because prior to this unit, I had no idea how to do
> it! So
> I figured I should have a pratice before I try to submit the real
> thing
> for Blog 1. It has definately been a good learning curve for me."
>
>
> >

Leo Wong

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Aug 20, 2007, 12:20:42 PM8/20/07
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Thank you For Leigh , he is helping me with how to translate a English Label into Chinese , and I don't know if anyone know how to convert a JPG to a word format so that I could edit and translate the English into Chinese .

Besides ,is there anyone know how to visit a blocked blog Via Proxy , but sometimes ,even canot get access through Proxy .

I can only use RSS reader www.zhuaxia.com to read some of my favourite blogs now in China .

Thank you all , see the attachment for the JPG files



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Leigh Blackall

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Aug 20, 2007, 11:37:38 PM8/20/07
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just to clarify Leo's attachment... Leo has been sent some very low rez images and so far I have used GIMP to remove the English labels so he can add in Chinese translations. Leo has attached my edit by mistake I think. I will help him identify the English words (which are ver unclear).
 
Any help people can offer Leo for accessing websites blocked by Chinese censors would be most appreciated. I am tracking Leo's blog via Google translate. Google translate has really really improved lately. But sadly, Leo cannot access many of our blogs :(

 

grahamwegner

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Aug 21, 2007, 7:27:15 AM8/21/07
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Jeff Utecht <http://www.thethinkingstick.com/> an edublogger based in
Shanghai has mentioned proxify <http://proxify.com/> in twitter as a
way of working around filters in China. Maybe worth investigating for
Leo?
Graham.
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On Aug 21, 12:37 pm, "Leigh Blackall" <leighblack...@gmail.com> wrote:
> just to clarify Leo's attachment... Leo has been sent some very low rez
> images and so far I have used GIMP to remove the English labels so he can
> add in Chinese translations. Leo has attached my edit by mistake I think. I
> will help him identify the English words (which are ver unclear).
>
> Any help people can offer Leo for accessing websites blocked by Chinese
> censors would be most appreciated. I am tracking Leo's blog via Google
> translate. Google translate has really really improved lately. But sadly,
> Leo cannot access many of our blogs :(
>

> On 8/21/07, Leo Wong <leolo...@163.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Thank you For Leigh , he is helping me with how to translate a English
> > Label into Chinese , and I don't know if anyone know how to convert a JPG to
> > a word format so that I could edit and translate the English into Chinese .
>
> > Besides ,is there anyone know how to visit a blocked blog Via Proxy , but
> > sometimes ,even canot get access through Proxy .
>

> > I can only use RSS readerwww.zhuaxia.comto read some of my favourite


> > blogs now in China .
>
> > Thank you all , see the attachment for the JPG files
>

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