fefine ke tangata

[jione havea]

Tu'u!! Ta'ahine Simana 'o taa kapa!!! He kuo ke fua e vaeua hoku ngafa. "He ka ne liliu aa e fefinee 'o tangata, Kuo loa 'enau tu'u ke sauni 'ofa'anga." 

 

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kataki mu'a 'o fakamaama mai e faka'amu ko ena ke "liliu aa e fefine 'o tangata" mo e "sauni 'ofa'anga"

 

mahino pe 'a e mafana ia he katoanga ne fai, ka 'oku 'i ai nai mo ha ngaahi fo'i momona 'oku unga mai he fakatalutalu 'oku fai?

[Ikani Tolu]

JH
'Oku iai hono ki'i puipuitu'a fakahisitolia. Ko e mafana mo e fakatalutalu kuo fai hange ha mafana he penu kehe. Na'e li pe 'e he kau ta'ahine Simana ia e 3 kilu tupu meimei ko e 50% ia 'oe fakakatoa 'oe 6 kilu tupu, pea hange nai koe fakahahanu kapau 'oku pehe 'ae tafihu 'ae ta'ahine 'o Simana huanoa ka ne tangata e ta'ahine Simana 'e fononga 'o mama'o atu he maile 'e ua. Na'a tau 'amanaki pe 'e ta aileva 'e Sia'atoutai e Miliona ka kuo hola foki 'a Fakapulia ia mo e kau tangata ka e tuku mai pe kau fefine. Jhavea tau toe kole ki Sia'atoutai ke nau feinga pe ke fei mo a'u ki he miliona kae fei mo tuku 'osi e faikakai smile.
Malo e katoanga lahi ke 'a Veiuto mai ee

Lufe

[Ika, Foloke]

faka'amu tangata 'a fafine kae faka'amu ha 'a tangata? Malo e katoanga lahi, pea kuo taau ke lali-ke-ma'a (pe 'oku pehe'i ko aa?).

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[Poasi Tei]

Faifekau,   Mahalo na'a koe fakapulipuli ia koe kei fefine pe 'ae kau Simana. Fai holo ai pe e ng. foaki 'ae kakai kae kei fakatoetoe pe ke toki foaki kakato kihe kau fefine ni. Kapau koha kau tangata mahalo na'a ma'u pe ha 3,000??   Ko hono sai pe ke fei mo tuku atu a 'ae car wash he ve'ehala na'a accident ha taha he faka'ohovale 'ae "MALO" mai. Kei laka ange pe smiles eeee!!!! pt.     --- On Tue, 10/7/08, Ikani Tolu <ikani...@yahoo.com> wrote:

[Sepesi]

Mei fa'ahinga pe ena mo e Pusi liliu Fefinee. Vakai atu kia Nau
Saimone(Fakapulia) na'a 'oku na takoto pe ha mohenga 'e taha mo e
ta'anga ki he katoanga tukumo'ui ne fakahoko.

takamuli.
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[penisimani mone]

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Jone,

 'Oku lahi e ngaahi lea mahu'inga mo fisifisimu'a mei he Loloo, kae mahalo ko e funganii eni kiate au, pea mahalo na'e lave pe ki ai 'a tfinau he'ene lea he Talanoa Oceania, he ka lea ha taha he mala'etau 'o Vava'uu, kuo pau ke lave ia ki si'i fefine ni, he ko 'ene leaa ne ne toki faa'uu 'a Vava'u ke tu'u fakataha ki he fakaaoao 'a 'Ulukaalalaa. Tahataha e lea malie mei he Loloo, pea taa ko e lea ia 'a ha fefine 'o 'ikai ko ha motu'a tangata, 'oouuaaa'ah, Lol ia!!!!. Toki kimui mai 'aupito 'a Ha'ateiho ia mo e me'aifii he 'aho ni ee.

 

Ne 'osi fakafuakava'i foki 'e 'Ulukaalala ia e kau to'a Vava'uu 'i Ha'apai hili e telio 'o Tupouniua ke 'oua na'a nau tu'u kiate ia, pea kei mo'ua ia he mali 'a hono fohaa 'i Ha'apai 'o ma'u faingamalie ai 'a Vava'u ke talanga'i fuoloa pe te nau tu'u ke sauni e toto 'o honau 'ofa'anga ko Tupouniuaa, pe te nau tauhi 'enau fuakavaa telia e houhau e ngaahi 'otua 'o e fuakavaa. Lolotonga 'enau kei talanga fuoloa 'a e kau to'a tangata 'o Vava'uu, kuo hopo hake ha fine'eiki (kainga pe 'o Toe'umu) ki mala'e mo ha povai mo e tao 'o taakalo mo kaila atu - "Ko e haa 'oku kei taalanga'i fuoloa ai e me'a 'oku mahinoo? He ka ne malava ke liliu aa moutolu tangataa na 'o [faka]fafine, 'o pau ai ke liliu 'a fafine 'o tangata, pehee kuo loa 'emau tu'u ke sauni e toto 'o e ta'ehalaiaa, hei'ilo 'e faifai atu ho'omou mamata he'emau tou'angaa, ..." Toki fakapapau ai 'a Vava'u ke langa 'a e talitau'anga ko Feletoaa, 'o 'ikai mavivi ki ai e ngaahi me'afanafonua 'a 'Ulukaalalaa. Jone, ko e fakamahamahao pe eni mei he fakamatala 'a Malenaa.   

 

Ko ha ki'i momona pe ke tau ako mei ai, he ivi'ia 'o e leaa (speech) ki he Tongaa ee. Lea lelei taimi tonu pe ha fefine, tu'u fakataha ai 'a Vava'u 'o fiu feinga ai 'a 'Ulukalala ee. Toe foki pe 'a 'Ulukalala ki he leaa (speech), 'o toki too ai 'a Feletoa. Mo'oni e himii ee - "Lea [ia 'oku] fakaofo!," vovo, mo'ui. Pea ka hala ha lea ki he kau Tongaa ee, ko e maatuku ia 'a e ki'i siasii ee. Pea ka faifai 'ote lea lelei mo tonu ki he Tongaa ee, tala atu, te nau keli mo tanu 'e kinautolu ha Feletoa 'e teau he uike pe taha. 'Eke pee ki Simana ee!! Ki'i 'ahi'ahi atu J ki ha fu'u Lol ke ne tokanga'i 'a Vava'u na'a too, sio koe ki ai 'e 'osi'osi aipe si'ene mo'ui 'ana.

 

Mahalo ko e tau tatau pe eni ne tekisii'i mai ai 'a e to'a ko Si'ulua ki Lofanga kuo te'eki 'osi 'a e tauu, na'a ne taki foki he kapisi to'omata'uu, 'o feinga mei he matapaa ki Fatungakoaa, kae mahalo ko e talanoa kehe foki ia, na'a tokoni mai ai ha taha, he 'oku 'i ai mo hono toe ngaahi lea malie ai.   
--
fakapulia

[penisimani mone]

Poasi,

Mo'oni ia, faka'au pe ke mahino mai, 'ofa ange pe kakaii ia, ngaahi siasi fakakoloo, ngaahi kalapuu, ngaahi familii, pea toe kau ai mo e kau faifekauu, he'atau fanau fefinee ee, he kau tangataa. 'Oku 'i ai e ki'i fua'a ai.

 

Kae maaloo ho'o mou tu'u mai he taimi 'o e faingata'aa. Kuo toki tau'ataaina e fonuaa mo e ngaahi me'alelee ke lele ha hala pe 'oku nau loto ki ai, pe fakatau ha faikakai 'okapau 'oku nau fiema'u, pea tutuku atu aa mo e ngaahi fu'u hositee "MALOO" mei  he ngaahi ve'e halaa.

 

Ka toe 'asi holo ha kau "ta'ovala" mo ha kave vai 'i kolo na, 'ofa mai, pii'i'aki e kanee ke mokosia, 'okapau 'e 'i ai ha vai ai ee. 

[jione havea]

malo e feme'a'aki, pea 'oku mahino pe kiate au e mafana mo hono tupu'anga. 'oku 'ikai te u fehu'ia ia. na'e tonu pasika ia ki hono taimi mo hono tukunga. 'oku ou fifili au he 'aho ni, 'i he tukunga ko eni e ngalu-ope, he ko e ha mai 'a e faka'amu "ka ne liliu aa e fefine 'o tangata" 'oku ne fakasino e fakakaukau 'oku sai ange e tangata he fefine

 

ko e hoko atu, "ka ne liliu aa e fefine 'o tangata, kuo loa 'enau tu'u he sauni 'ofa'anga," 'oku ne talamai ko e "sauni 'ofa'anga" ko e me'a pe ia 'a tangata. ka 'oku fihi he 'oku te'eki lava e "sauni 'ofa'anga" neongo 'oku tokolahi e kau tangata

 

'oku fetuotua'i (ko e lea ia mei falehanga) leva e pupungalea ni mo e mafana 'oku fai ki Simana, he ko e kau fefine na'a nau fai e "sauni" 'o Sia'atoutai

 

hei'ilo pe na'e fefee kapau ko e mafana na'e fakalea pehe ni "ka ne liliu aa e tangata 'o fefine..." ??

 

'i he faka'apa'apa ki he tukufakaholo mo e kau pukepuke 'o Tonga, jh

 

 

 

ps: Peni Mone, kataki ko e "Jone" ko ho'omou hingoa Fiji ia 'a kimoutolu mo skf mo Taitoo!!

 

*****

 

You cannot travel on the path before you have become the Path itself -- Gautama Buddha

[penisimani mone]

Jone wrote:

"'oku ou fifili au he 'aho ni, 'i he tukunga ko eni e ngalu-ope, he ko e ha mai 'a e faka'amu "ka ne liliu aa e fefine 'o tangata" 'oku ne fakasino e fakakaukau 'oku sai ange e tangata he fefine"

 

Mo'oni ho'o lave ko iaa Jone, koe'uhi ko e tatafe ta'etu'u 'a e taimii, pea 'oku 'ikai fa'a malava ai 'a e language ia 'o refer ki ha me'apau 'oku tu'uma'u hifo, kae defer 'ata'ataa pe, 'o tonu pasika ai e lau ia ko enii 'aneafi kae kehe 'aupito 'a e tuukungaa ia he 'aho ni ke toe 'ai ki ai.

 

Ka 'okapau te ke fakatonutonu e meaning 'o e text ki he intention 'a e author 'o fakatatau ki he'ene tohii, pea taa 'oku ki'i pikoloa ho'o "fakakaukau 'oku sai ange e tangata he fefine." Ko e Tongaa foki ia 'oku ngaofe pe 'a e laine hangatonuu ia ki ai ee. Fakataataa, na'a mo lau mo Lufe 'eku tohi tatau, pehee ai 'e ia ko e meaning 'o e tohii ke fakahikihiki'i e kau fefine Simanaa, pea ki'i holomui leva ia 'o fakamatala mai e context ne fai atu ai e tohii ee, ka ke pehee 'e koe ko e meaning 'o e text ko enii ke fakasino e fakakaukau 'oku sai ange e tangataa he fefinee. Vakai, mo kehekehe ee. Sai, te tau ala fakatonutonu ki fee 'a e meaning 'o e text, Jone? Kiate ia 'oku ne lauu, ki he tohii 'iate ia pee, pe ko e tokotaha na'a ne fai e tohii?

 

Teu ki'i lele ki hee 'o sivi na'a 'alu e toketaa, he ko e toketaa ta'etotongi, kau toki hoko atu!!

--
fakapulia

[Sione M. Veituna]

Jione,

faloa e pulia e! ko e fakafelekeu atu pe ho'o mo fe'inasi'aki mo Fakapulia, malie e ta'anga ia, ka ko e mo'oni 'o e tupe ia na'e fai ko e kau tangata pe ia na'a nau fai e sauni, ko e kau fefine ia na'a na'a faite pe he tano'a 'o tali e e 2k3m, ko e 6m pe ne fakateeteeloufusi ai e Sikei ia mo e kau simana LOL, he Muli eee, ko e 2k3m ia ko e kau siana ia mei he tapa kotoa pe 'o mamani he he he he, pea toki lote fakataha ia 'o ma'u ai e 3k ko eni oku fai ai e fiefia, kae hoko atu ho'o mo hemanutika, he oku kamata pe ke aaata mai..

Pea malo mu'a fakapulia tau mo e sio toketa, ko u pehee ni oku ke i Satisi pe ta koaa kuo loa ho'o puli ko e kae 'eva, eh eh hee,

'ofa tu ki he hou'eiki tsltsl kotoa he ope

mo e ofa
Ma'ananga
Nafualu

[Ben Mysterymann]

Kataki pe 'oku 'ikai ke mahino kiate au pe koe ha hono kovi e liliu e tangata 'o Fefinee. Koe tradition ia koe tangata koe provider ia he familii. Pea kapau leva koe fefine ia 'oku ngaue 'o tauhi e familii kae to'otama e motu'a ia 'oku totonu ke fakakukau'i ke fefine a e motu'a ia. ( "i he context 'oe family responsibilities nothing more) 'ofa atu. --- On Tue, 10/7/08, penisimani mone <peni...@gmail.com> wrote:

From: penisimani mone <peni...@gmail.com> Subject: [tasilisili] Re: fefine ke tangata To: tasil...@googlegroups.com

[sfaupula]

ta'ofi ia he 'oku ou ngaue pe pea toe to'otama pea 'oku 'ikai keu fkkaukau au ia ko e to'otama ko e fatongia pe ia 'a fafine. ko e fatongia loua pe 'o e ongo matu'a ka 'oku to'otama fktangata pe 'eku to'otama 'aku mo 'eku nofo moe fanau pea fkfefine pe 'a e tauhi ia e hoa.

[jione havea]

kapau 'oku mo'oni e pikoloa, pea tukuange maua mo Lufe ke kehekehe 'ema ma'u pea fokotu'u mai mo ha 'uhinga hono 3 mo 4 ke tau vakai 'aki e pikoloa pe 'e fou ki fe. ko e pikoloa foki ia ko e me'a ia 'a mamani, ka 'oku 'ikai ko Tonga pe

 

ka 'okapau 'e fakafoki ke aofangatuku e author, pea kole fakamolemole atu ki ai. ko e author ko aa 'o e pupunga lea ko eni ko e tangata pe fefine? 'oku poto he to'otama hange ko skf? hufanga he fakatapu!

 

ko e fakatalanoa pe mei he fano, jh

[Mata Havea]

Tau kata aiiiiiiiii

 

From: tasil...@googlegroups.com [mailto:tasil...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mata Havea
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 11:45 PM
To: tasil...@googlegroups.com
Subject: [tasilisili] Re: fefine ke tangata

 

Fefine pe tengata kapau ‘oku kovi e malanga pea lahi etau lea………kapuau ok fiemau e luliu fktonga then I can’t help u

 

 

From: tasil...@googlegroups.com [mailto:tasil...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ben Mysterymann

Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 4:47 PM

To: tasil...@googlegroups.com
Subject: [tasilisili] Re: fefine ke tangata

[Saikolone Taufa]

Mata, malo 'etau lava, 'o leva e kata kae ki'i tomu'a fakalele'i e lea fakatonga. Moe 'ofa moe lotu. Lone

 

[Mata Havea]

Test atu pe tau kau tama mei Niue…………

 

 

 

From: tasil...@googlegroups.com [mailto:tasil...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Saikolone Taufa
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 11:55 PM
To: tasil...@googlegroups.com
Subject: [tasilisili] Re: fefine ke tangata

 

Mata, malo 'etau lava, 'o leva e kata kae ki'i tomu'a fakalele'i e lea fakatonga. Moe 'ofa moe lotu. Lone

 

 

[Mata Havea]

Sorry can’t help….

 

 

From: tasil...@googlegroups.com [mailto:tasil...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Saikolone Taufa
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 11:55 PM
To: tasil...@googlegroups.com
Subject: [tasilisili] Re: fefine ke tangata

 

Mata, malo 'etau lava, 'o leva e kata kae ki'i tomu'a fakalele'i e lea fakatonga. Moe 'ofa moe lotu. Lone

 

 

[penisimani mone]

Jone wrote:
 "ko e fakatalanoa pe mei he fano, jh"

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Jone, kuo ke toe folau koe ki fano? Ki'i pine hifo. 'Ooouuuaaa'a!!. Loloo ia ee!! Fakamafana!!

 

Tuku atu pe "pikoloaa" ke tau toki taufale ai mo Mohenoa 'i ha'amou lava mai he Talanoaa ki Tonga ni ee, he neongo 'e faka "piko" kotoa pe 'a maamani ka ko Tonga ni pee taha 'oku "loaa" ee.

 

Jone wrote:

"ko e hoko atu, "ka ne liliu aa e fefine 'o tangata, kuo loa 'enau tu'u he sauni 'ofa'anga," 'oku ne talamai ko e "sauni 'ofa'anga" ko e me'a pe ia 'a tangata. ka 'oku fihi he 'oku te'eki lava e "sauni 'ofa'anga" neongo 'oku tokolahi e kau tangata."

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'E fa'a fihi pe nai hangee ko ho'o lavee, kae mahalo ko e me'a ia 'oku tau fa'a fai ai e historical criticism mo e analysis ke manatu'i 'e he kau lau 'o e 'aho nii 'a e context na'e fai ai 'e he fefine Vava'u ni 'ene leaa he senituli atuu. Fanongo leva koe ai he 'aho ni Jone ee, pea ke faka'uhinga ai taa "ko e sauni 'ofa'angaa ko e me'a pe ia 'a tangata," kae lofia ai e ngaahi social roles 'o e gender 'i he faitu'utu'unii mo e ngaahi felaalaave'i 'o e fuakavaa mo e nofo 'a kaingaa 'i he sosaiete Tongaa.

 

Ka mahino e ngaahi 'aatakai ko iaa pea 'e toki mahu'inga maalie leva 'a e te'eki lava e sauni 'ofa'angaa neongo na'e tokolahi e kau tangataa Vava'uu, pea mo e 'uhinga na'e 'ikai lava ai 'e ha'a fafinee ke nau sauni tu'unga'a 'a Tupouniua he taimi mo e tuukunga ko iaa. Ko e sauni 'ofa'anga fakafo'ituituii ko e me'a pe ia 'a e taha kotoa, tangata pe fefine, ka ko e sauni 'ofa'anga fakakaatoa as a community 'a Vava'uu, na'e pau ia ke faitu'utu'uni 'e tangata pea ki'i alealea mo vakavakai holo he na'e fele 'a e to'a kae kei felaave'i fakatoto pe mo Ha'apai ee. 'Ikai pehee ia ai kuo lelei hake ai 'a tangata 'i ha'a fafine, 'ikai, ka ko e expected social role ia 'o tangata ke fakapapau e tau saunii he 'aho ko iaa, ka te nau tau-taamate kotoa pe ee, tangata mo fafine, hee ee koaa tfinau ee, 'o kehe 'aupito ia mei he tau-ta'ehokoo. 

 

Ko e fo'i tukufakaholo ia ne veuki 'i Feletoaa, 'o fehulunaki (lea mei he laalangaa) ia mo ia 'i he Siaa. Fakamaafana ee, ka ko e "fetuotua'i" 'i ho'o lavee Jone, 'oku ke feinga koe ke fakanifo tatau e 'uhinga 'a e original author (fefine) pea mo e 'uhinga 'a e second author (tangata), ki Feletoa pea ki Sia ee, ka na'e intent foki e second author ia ('a ia ne ke lau 'ene text) ke na laalanga fakataha, neongo 'ena kuonga kehekehee, 'o ho'ata e fo'i maalie 'a ee meihe maalie 'a ee. Kapau 'e fai ki ho'o faka'amuu ('a e reader) ke "ka ne liliu aa e tangataa 'o fefine," 'e hoa nai ia mo Sia ('a ia 'oku ke ngali refer ki aii) ka 'e ala mole ai 'a Feletoa ia ('a ia 'oku ngali toe refer ki ai e second author ia). Ko hano 'ai nounou, ko ho'o "fetuotua'ii" 'oku feinga ia ke laini hangatonu, ka ko e "fehulunakii" 'oku ki'i pikoloa ia.

 

Sai, kau toe fehu'i atu ee, Ko hai 'e aofangatuku he 'uhinga 'o e text? Author, text pe reader? Ko ho'omo 'uhinga kehekehe tau'ataina ko ena mo Lufee, 'oku 'uhinga ia ke fahu pe 'a e reader? 'E hu'u eni ki he eiegesis? 'Oku ou ki'i manavasi'i pe na'a fakapoongi 'e he kau lisii 'a e hokoo ('a ia 'oku 'a'ana e ngouee/text) ka nau ma'u 'enautolu e ngoue vainee ee. He kuo lahi pe foki mo e ngaahi text intent lelei pe he paenga ni kae fa'a kehe e faka'uhinga ia 'a e kau readers.

 

ps: Jone, 'oku tohi hoku tohita'uu ko e "Penisimani," ka 'oku kei ui pe au ia 'e Kala'au ko "Penilotu." Sai ia, 'e ui mo tohi 'i mamani ia koe ko "Jione," (tapu mo koe), ka 'e kei fakafeta'i mo ui pe 'e Vava'u ia koe ko "Jone Havea." Fakamaafana atu, Jone! Jone! Jone! eeh.

 

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fakapulia

[Heneli Viliami Vete]

''Oku tau fakafeta'i lahi ki he mahino mai ko e Kau Uesiliana pe 'oku nau anga'i ta'e'ofa si'i founga kumi ni. Kaekehe, 'OKU 'I AI E KI'I FIFILI MEI PAEA 'I MA'OPO'OPO.
Ne ha mei he fakamatala 'a Malaloi, ko e Kau Memipa pe he ngaahi Komiti 'Eiki 'a e Siasi, ko kinautolu ne o ki he MEDIa ke pohe'a hange ha selekapo si'i ngaue fit'aa'uli ne fai 'e he Pule mo e Kau Memipa 'o e Kolisi.
 
Manatu ki he tanaki niu, Ko e sivi e A mo e B, fai ia he taimi fua 'o e fo'i mataka; ka ko e taimi 'oku uta ai  'i he vaka: 'oku 'alu taha pe ki he 'ana 'e taha . MALIE E!
 
Kuo te ongo'i fiefia he fa'a talanoa e Kainga ni ki he'enau o ki kolo, 'enau fakatotofu e ngaahi fo'i seniti ki he CAR WASH 'a e Sia pe ko e falekai! FIELAU HE KO E PUNUNGAMELIE!
 
'Ofa atu fau;
Paea-'i-Ma'opo'opo

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> Subject: [tasilisili] Re: fefine ke tangata

> From: sep...@nst.net.au
> To: tasil...@googlegroups.com
> Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 10:53:33 +1000

[Ben Mysterymann]

Malo sepesi e ngaue lahi, koe anga pe e feinga atu ke define e ngaahi resposibilities mei 'api he 'oku hanga 'ehe resposibilities 'oe tangata moe fefine mei he'enau kei iiki 'o fakafuo 'enau sio ki he mo'ui he'enau lalahi. 'Ilo 'e fafine honau ngafa pea pehe kia tangata, he nofo 'ae famili pea pehe ki he nofo 'ae kainga foki.. 'ofa atu.. --- On Tue, 10/7/08, sfaupula <sk...@bigpond.com> wrote:

[Sepesi]

Kataki Ben, 'oku te'eki ke u lea atu he fala ko ena ka ko Veni.
malo e talanoa.

sepesi.
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[Sione M. Veituna]

Veni,

mei mei mate he kata. ko u toki ilo eni oku ke to'otama he he he he he, 'ofa 'ia kita ho'o to'otama fakatangata 'oku fai ha kaivevela ma'u pe poko'itelinga ia 'o e kau leka he he he, ko ho 'ai ia pea loto lahi mo kau faifekau ia 'o hu mai kitu'a mei he koloseti LOL

ofa atu
Ma'ananga
Nafualu

[Ikani Fakasiieiki]

ko e tulituli tomui atu pe he malie 'a e talanoa......
mahalo ko e me'a mahu'inga ke fakatokanga'i, ko e taimi pe kuo te hiki ai fakamatala 'o tuku atu ke lau 'e ha taha, pe fai ha lea 'o fanongo ki ai ha taha pea 'oku 'iai 'a e faingamalie ki he faka'uhinga. ko hano fakatonutonu e faka'uhinga 'oku 'ikai fa'a foki ia ki he 'uluaki 'uhinga ka 'oku toe fa'a tupu ai mo e 'uhinga fo'ou ia, pea 'oku ou tui mahalo ko e fakakoloa ia e talanoa. Ko e fehu'i mahalo ia 'e taha; Pe 'e lava ke faktonutonu ha faka'uhinga? pe 'e lava koaa ke tau foki ki he 'uluaki 'uhinga? Pe ko e ngaahi 'uhinga 'oku tau pehe ko e 'uluaki 'uhinga (pe ko ia 'oku tau fa'a pehe ko e 'uhinga totonu 'o ha fkkaukau pe talanoa, lea) ko e toki 'uhinga fo'ou pe ia pe toki tanaki mai....ko 'etau feinga eni ke fihi 'aupito...kataki ka ko e kaveinga ia ko e liliu fefine 'a tangata...

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"'oku ou fifili au he 'aho ni, 'i he tukunga ko eni e ngalu-ope, he ko e ha mai 'a e faka'amu "ka ne liliu aa e fefine 'o tangata" 'oku ne fakasino e fakakaukau 'oku sai ange e tangata he fefine"

Ka 'okapau te ke fakatonutonu e meaning 'o e text ki he intention 'a e author 'o fakatatau ki he'ene tohii, pea taa 'oku ki'i pikoloa ho'o "fakakaukau 'oku sai ange e tangata he fefine." Ko e Tongaa foki ia 'oku ngaofe pe 'a e laine hangatonuu ia ki ai ee. Fakataataa, na'a mo lau mo Lufe 'eku tohi tatau, pehee ai 'e ia ko e meaning 'o e tohii ke fakahikihiki'i e kau fefine Simanaa, pea ki'i holomui leva ia 'o fakamatala mai e context ne fai atu ai e tohii ee, ka ke pehee 'e koe ko e meaning 'o e text ko enii ke fakasino e fakakaukau 'oku sai ange e tangataa he fefinee. Vakai, mo kehekehe ee. Sai, te tau ala fakatonutonu ki fee 'a e meaning 'o e text, Jone? Kiate ia 'oku ne lauu, ki he tohii 'iate ia pee, pe ko e tokotaha na'a ne fai e tohii?

 

Teu ki'i lele ki hee 'o sivi na'a 'alu e toketaa, he ko e toketaa ta'etotongi, kau toki hoko atu!!

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'Ikani, mahalo 'oku totonu ke fakatokanga'i foki, koe me'a ko'eni 'oku tau ui koe 'uhingaa, matamata ko ha ngaahi fo'i fakakaukau pe kuo tukutaula he 'atamai 'oe kau faka'uhingaa, pea 'e faingata'a leva ke ala pehee ai koe fo'i fakakaukau koiaa koe 'uhinga pe ia pe 'ikai. Mahalo na'a sai aa ke tau fehu'ia pe 'oku 'iai koaa ha me'a ko e 'uhinga, pe 'ikai, he 'oku matamata ko'etau fetakaini koe fetakai he fu'u mamani ta'e'uhinga. He koe me'a ko'eni 'oku ou vilo atu ai 'o pehee koe tangata pe fefine, 'oku 'ikai teu fakapapau'i pe 'oku tau taha kiai kotoa pe 'ikai. Mahalo na'a sai aii ke liliu ke "me'a 'a me'a" ka na'a moia pe 'oku toe fihi ange ia eeee. Moe 'ofa moe lotu ki he takamilo. Lone

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'E 'i ai nai ha konga 'i he tepile 'e ala fakafalala atu ki ai mo e fakakaukau ni?

ko e husepaniti 'a fefine pe fefine ke husepaniti.

uaifi 'a tangata pe tangata ke uaifi

ko e fie'ilo pe,
loke

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Kataki Sepesi 'oku hoko e ki'i maumau fakasio!!!  --- On Wed, 10/8/08, Sepesi <sep...@nst.net.au> wrote:

From: Sepesi <sep...@nst.net.au> Subject: [tasilisili] Re: fefine ke tangata To: tasil...@googlegroups.com

[sfaupula]

malie 'a e fkkau2 ia pea ko hono apply ko ee ki he 'eku to'otama 'oku malie ange ia, he 'oku ou 'uhinga atu au ki he me'a kehe kae fkkaukau e fanau ia ki he me'a kehe pea mau iku ai ki he me'a kehe: 'o fefkmolemole'aki. 'ouaaaaaa!

 

  

----- Original Message -----

From: Ikani Fakasiieiki

To: tasil...@googlegroups.com

Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 12:36 PM

Subject: [tasilisili] Re: fefine ke tangata

[kit finau]

 
 
THE NEXT SURVIVOR SERIES 

Six married men will be dropped on an island with one car and 
3 kids each for six weeks. 

Each kid will play 
two sports 
and either take music 
or dance classes. 

There is no fast food. 

Each man must 
take care of his 3 kids; 
keep his assigned house clean, 
correct all homework, 
and complete science projects, 
cook,  do laundry, 
and pay a list of 'pretend' bills 
with not enough money. 

In addition, each man 
will have to budget in money 
for groceries each week. 

Each man 
must remember the birthdays 
of all their friends and relatives, 
and send cards out 
on time--no emailing. 

Each man must also 
take each child to a doctor's appointment, 
a dentist appointment 
and a haircut appointment. 

He must make 
one unscheduled and inconvenient 
visit per child 
to the Urgent Care. 

He must also 
make cookies or cupcakes 
for a social function. 

Each man will be responsible for 
decorating his own assigned house, 
planting flowers outside 
and keeping it presentable 
at all times. 

The men will only 
have access to television 
when the kids are asleep 
and all chores are done. 

The men must 
shave their legs, 
wear makeup daily, 
adorn himself with jewelry, 
wear uncomfortable yet stylish shoes, 
keep fingernails polished 
and eyebrows groomed. 

During one of the six weeks, 
the men will have to endure severe abdominal cramps, back aches, 
and have extreme, unexplained mood swings but never once complain or 
slow down from other duties. 

They must attend 
weekly school meetings, 
church, and find time 
at least once to spend the afternoon 
at the park or a similar setting. 

They will need to 
read a book to the kids 
each night and in the morning, 
feed them, dress them, 
brush their teeth and 
comb their hair by 7:00 am. 

A test will be given at the end of the six weeks, and each father will be required to know all of the following information: 
each child's birthday, 
height, weight,
shoe size, clothes size 
and doctor's name. 
Also the child's weight at birth, 
length, time of birth, 
and length of labor, 
each child's favorite color, 
middle name, 
favorite snack, 
favorite song, 
favorite drink, 
favorite toy, 
biggest fear and 
what they want to be when they grow up. 

The kids vote them off the island 
based on performance. 
The last man wins only if...
he still has enough energy 
to be intimate with his spouse 
at a moment's notice. 

If the last man does win, 
he can play the game over and over 
and over again for the next 18-25 years 
eventually earning the right 
To be called Mother!

[Talakai Finau]

'IOoooooooooooo!  kau pehee 'e au ko e tuleni (liliu) e tangata pe ko e fefine...
 
tk

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Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 01:04:04 -0500
From: kfi...@gmail.com
To: tasil...@googlegroups.com

Subject: [tasilisili] Re: fefine ke tangata

[iki]

>
> Mei fa'ahinga pe ena mo e Pusi liliu Fefinee. Vakai atu kia Nau
> Saimone(Fakapulia) na'a 'oku na takoto pe ha mohenga 'e taha mo e
> ta'anga ki he katoanga tukumo'ui ne fakahoko.
>
> takamuli.
> ---------------------------------
>

ko e fakakaukau malie ena masi'i takamuli ..kou tui ko e visone mama'o 'a
nau saimone ki he me'a 'oku a'u ki ai 'a e 'aho ni ..ki he transexual...ko e
pusi hangee hangee ko e suu pusi, mata'i pusi..anga'i pusi ....'oku 'uhinga
katoa pe ia ki he fa'ahinga 'oku tau ui he 'aho ni pe ko ia kuo legalise i
nuu sila ki he kau prostitute..'aia kapau ko e tu'unga ia kuo liliu tangata
'a fafine pea liliu fefine 'a tangata pea kuo hoko ia ke palopalema ai hotau
kuonga ni 'o a'u mai ai pe ki he lotu 'oku t'eki pe ke lava 'o solova 'a e
palopalema ko iaa...pea kapau kuo langa'i mai ke tau pehee pea tau tali aa
ke pehee ...pea ke faka'ataa fakalotu aa ke pehee he 'oku lolotonga peehee
pee.pope

[Sione M. Veituna]

pope mo takamuli,

fefe 'a e faikakai liliu silini, ko e ketakoli fe 'e kau ki ai. he he he he,

ongo tama, ko e fo'i liliu malie eni oku ou fanongo ai, ko e fetongi 'e ikilifi 'a e pule 'o Auck/Manukau, hihihihihiihiii, pope, ka ke ka hoko ki ho pule'anga pea ke manatu'i ke mai ha kii siiini ki he'eku minaleology he ta'u kaha'u, pea ka 'ikai,  'ai atu ke u fetongi au koe he youth pastor, LOL. .

teu lotu atu moe ofa
Ma'ananga
Nafualu

[penisimani mone]

On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 6:36 PM, Ikani Fakasiieiki <ika...@hotmail.com> wrote:

ko e tulituli tomui atu pe he malie 'a e talanoa......
mahalo ko e me'a mahu'inga ke fakatokanga'i, ko e taimi pe kuo te hiki ai fakamatala 'o tuku atu ke lau 'e ha taha, pe fai ha lea 'o fanongo ki ai ha taha pea 'oku 'iai 'a e faingamalie ki he faka'uhinga. ko hano fakatonutonu e faka'uhinga 'oku 'ikai fa'a foki ia ki he 'uluaki 'uhinga ka 'oku toe fa'a tupu ai mo e 'uhinga fo'ou ia, pea 'oku ou tui mahalo ko e fakakoloa ia e talanoa. Ko e fehu'i mahalo ia 'e taha; Pe 'e lava ke faktonutonu ha faka'uhinga? pe 'e lava koaa ke tau foki ki he 'uluaki 'uhinga? Pe ko e ngaahi 'uhinga 'oku tau pehe ko e 'uluaki 'uhinga (pe ko ia 'oku tau fa'a pehe ko e 'uhinga totonu 'o ha fkkaukau pe talanoa, lea) ko e toki 'uhinga fo'ou pe ia pe toki tanaki mai....ko 'etau feinga eni ke fihi 'aupito...kataki ka ko e kaveinga ia ko e liliu fefine 'a tangata..

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Malo 'Ikani, pea malo e ngaue mei hena, 'ofa atu ki he ngaue mo e famili.

 

'Oku mo'oni ia, kuo pau ke fai e faka'uhinga ia ki he lea mo e tohi kotoa pe. 'Oku ou ki'i puputu'u pe 'i he ngaahi me'a ni:

1) ko hano fakatonutonu e faka'uhinga 'oku 'ikai fa'a foki ia ki he 'uluaki 'uhinga ka 'oku toe fa'a tupu ai mo e 'uhinga fo'ou ia.

2) Ko e fehu'i mahalo ia 'e taha; Pe 'e lava ke fakatonutonu ha faka'uhinga? pe 'e lava koaa ke tau foki ki he 'uluaki 'uhinga?

3) Pe ko e ngaahi 'uhinga 'oku tau pehe ko e 'uluaki 'uhinga (pe ko ia 'oku tau fa'a pehe ko e 'uhinga totonu 'o ha fkkaukau pe talanoa, lea) ko e toki 'uhinga fo'ou pe ia pe toki tanaki mai...

Ko e pehee ko eni 'oku 'ikai fa'a foki e faka'uhingaa ki he 'uluaki 'uhingaa ('a e original author), ko ha me'a totonu ia ke tau kau ai mo faka'ai'ai? He 'oku toe 'i ai foki mo e 'efika ia 'o e heameneutikaa, pea 'oku tau tui tautolu kau Kalisitianee, ko e faka'uhinga 'o ha tohi pe lea (tautefito ki he Tohii mo e naunau fakalotuu) 'oku totonu ke theological ia. Kapau 'e hu'u 'a mamani ke 'oua toe fa'a foki ki he 'uluaki 'uhingaa, te tau kau ai mo kitautolu?

 

Kapau 'oku 'ikai malava ke fakatonutonu ha faka'uhinga, 'oku 'uhinga nai ia ke tonu pasika e faka'uhinga 'a e kakai kotoa pe 'i he kuonga kotoa pe ki ha tohi pe lea 'a ha taha, he 'oku 'ikai malava ke fakatonutonu ha faka'uhinga ia? 'Oku 'uhinga 'a e ta'emalava ke tau toe foki ki he 'uluaki 'uhingaa koe'uhi 'oku 'ikai ha author ia 'o ha tohi pe lea ke tau aofangatuku ki ai? 'Oku 'i ai ha me'a ko e authorless text, pe, 'oku 'ikai ha me'a ia ko e misinterpretation?

 

Kapau ko e 'uhinga 'oku tau pehee ko e 'uluaki 'uhingaa ko e toki 'uhinga fo'ou kotoa ia pe toki tanaki mai, te tau ala fakama'opo'opo ai that all biblical criticm and analysis are hopeless? pea ko e faka'uhingaa kotoa pe ko e lavaki'i ia mo e fakapoongi fakalongolongo 'o e owner? Kapau ko ia, pea taa 'oku lahilahi 'a e ngaahi fakalea hala mei he tu'unga malangaa tokua ko e 'uhinga nai eni 'a Matiu, Ma'ake, pe Luke?

 

Ko e feinga atu pe 'Ikani ke toe fihi 'aupito 'aupito ee!!

[Ben Mysterymann]

Faupula 'Oku toe comical ange 'a hono huka'i ki he to'otamaa hehehehe!!

--- On Wed, 10/8/08, sfaupula <sk...@bigpond.com> wrote:

From: sfaupula <sk...@bigpond.com> Subject: [tasilisili] Re: fefine ke tangata

[fusi mapuhoi `a tevolo]

'E 'i ai nai ha konga 'i he tepile 'e ala fakafalala atu ki ai mo e fakakaukau ni? 
 
ko e husepaniti 'a fefine pe fefine ke husepaniti.
 
uaifi 'a tangata pe tangata ke uaifi
 
ko e fie'ilo pe,
 loke

>============= 'aia loke, ko ho'o 'uhinga?  ke mafuli 'a tangata ia 'o 2ifi/fefine 'aupito?
 
ko e anga peki'i teke atu   
 
 

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[iki]

''Oku tau fakafeta'i lahi ki he mahino mai ko e Kau Uesiliana pe 'oku nau anga'i ta'e'ofa si'i founga kumi ni. Kaekehe, 'OKU 'I AI E KI'I FIFILI MEI PAEA 'I MA'OPO'OPO.
Ne ha mei he fakamatala 'a Malaloi, ko e Kau Memipa pe he ngaahi Komiti 'Eiki 'a e Siasi, ko kinautolu ne o ki he MEDIa ke pohe'a hange ha selekapo si'i ngaue fit'aa'uli ne fai 'e he Pule mo e Kau Memipa 'o e Kolisi.
 

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mahalo masi'i Kamoto 'isa ..faifekau ....'oku kehe pe ia mei he fklanga talanoa atu ko 'enii ee...ko e 'uhinga pe eni ia ke 'iai ha faingamalie ke tau toe vakai ai ki hono teu'i 'o 'etau kau ngaue ki he kaha'uu...ko e founga ni 'a e penipenii kuo ne hanga 'e ia 'o fetongi e ngaue totongi 'a e kau akoo na'e fa'a fai mai he taimi koo 'o tautolu mo kimu'a atuu... kapau 'e tuku ia kae fakamamafa 'a e kolisi 'i hono fo'u ha fa'ahinga motolo 'o e teolosia pe akenga ngaue 'e ala lava ke lavai ai 'e he faifekau 'oku teu'i mei 'apiakoo ke ne hanga 'o liliu 'a e teolosia 'o e kolekolee ki ha motolo 'e taha 'oku 'ikai ke fakapahia angee...'oku hoko 'a  e talanoa ki he fua niu 'a Fuka 'o Kolomotu'a ko e motolo lelei ia kia au...neongo na'e 'ikai ngaue lahi'aki e pangikee pe fkhuu silini he taimi ko iaa ka na'e lava pe 'e Fuka 'o 'aikona pe 'ene silini pea vahevahe foki ..ko e 'aikona ko ee ko e misinale ia ko e 'aikona ko ee ko e kavenga fakafamili ia....'a ia ko e patisetii 'oku 'ikai ko ha fo'i me'a fakapalangi ia he na'e patiseti pe 'a etau matu'aa 'atautolu.  'E fefee kapau 'e tuku e teolosia feinga pa'anga ki he teolosia patisetii pea fa'u mo e akenga he'ikai fakapahia ki he ngaahi familiii..koma pe.pope 

[Poasi Tei]

Enjoy & hae a good day !!!     Subject Fw: You Decide      I was walking around in a Target store, when I saw a cashier hand this little boy some money back.           The boy couldn't have been more than 5 or 6 years old. The cashier said, "I'm sorry, but you don't have enough money to buy this doll."                                    Then the little boy turned to the old woman next to him: "Granny, are you sure I don't have enough  money?'' The old lady replied: ''You know that you don't have enough money to buy this doll, my dear.'' Then she asked him to stay there for just 5 minutes while she went to look around.   She left quickly.          The little boy was still holding the doll in his hand. Finally, I walked toward him and asked him who he wished to give this doll to. "It's the doll that my sister loved most and wanted so much for Christmas.           She was sure that Santa Claus would bring it to her." I replied to him that maybe Santa Claus would bring it to her after all,   and not to worry. But he replied to me sadly. "No, Santa Claus can't bring it to her where she is now. I have to give the doll to my Mommy so that she can give it to my sister when she goes there." His eyes were so sad while saying this. "My Sister has gone to be with God. Daddy says that Mommy is going to see God very soon, too, so I thought that she could take the doll with her to give it to my sister.''   My heart nearly stopped. The little boy looked up at me and said: "I told daddy to tell Mommy not to go yet. I need her to wait until I come back from the mall." Then he showed me a very nice photo of himself. He was laughing. He then told me, "I want Mommy to take my picture with her so she won't forget me." "I love my Mommy and I wish she didn't have to leave me, but daddy says that she has to go to be with my little sister."       Then he looked again at the doll with sad eyes, very quietly. I quickly reached for my wallet and said to the boy, "Suppose we check again, just in case you do have enough money for the doll!'' "OK" he said. "I hope I do have enough." I added some of my money to his without him seeing and we started to count it. There was enough for the doll and even some spare money.     The little boy said: "Thank you God for giving me enough money!" Then he looked at me and added, "I asked last night before I went to sleep for God to make sure I had enough money to buy this doll, so that Mommy could give it to my sister. He heard me!'' "I also wanted to have enough money to buy a white rose for my Mommy, but I didn't dare to ask God for too much.   But He gave me enough to buy the doll and a white rose.''   My Mommy loves white roses."   A few minutes later, the old lady returned and I left with my basket. I finished my shopping in a totally different state of mind from when I started. I couldn't get the little boy out of my mind.   Then I remembered a local newspaper article two days ago, which mentioned a drunk man in a truck, who hit a car occupied by a young woman and a little girl.    The little girl died right away, and the mother was left in a critical state. The family had to decide whether to pull the plug on the life-sustaining machine because the young woman would not be able to recover from the coma. Was this the family of the little boy? Two days after this encounter with the little boy, I read in the newspaper that the young woman had passed away. I couldn't stop myself as I bought a bunch of white roses and I went to the funeral home where the body of the young woman was for people to see and make last wishes before her burial. She was there, in her coffin, holding a beautiful white rose and with the photo of the little boy and the doll placed over her chest. I left the place, teary-eyed, feeling that my life had been changed forever. The love that the little boy had for his mother and his sister is still, to this day, hard to imagine. And in a fraction of a second, a drunk driver had taken all this away from him.                               .................................................................      The quote of the month is by Jay Leno: 'With hurricanes, tornados, fires out of control, mud slides, flooding, severe thunderstorms tearing up the country from one end to another, and with the threat of bird flu and terrorist attacks, 'Are we sure this is a good time to take God out of the Pledge of Allegiance?' The value of a man or woman resides in what he or she gives, not in what they are capable of receiving .