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From: Thomas P. <tonyofbexarremovet...@yahoo.dk>
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Subject: Re: the god exists crowd
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Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 08:39:07 +0200
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On Sat, 17 Apr 2004 16:23:06 -0700, "David V." <s...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>Randy Story wrote:
>> 
>> Only a dumb theist!  As with all, God can be understood
>> to some degree by his effects, creation.
>
>Yes, that would be a statement a dumb theist would make. You
>need to prove the god exists *BEFORE* you can claim it
>created anything.

That was essentially my reaction.  There is, however, something else
to be said about Randy's statement.  Let us assume that there is some
kind of god and that the universe is his creation.  What could we
learn about this god by (following Randy's advice) looking at his
creation?  Would one, for example, conclude that this god is
all-loving and merciful?   




Thomas P.

None of the Emperor's clothes had been so successful before.
"But he has got nothing on," said a little child.