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eee ff

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Jan 29, 2008, 4:16:18 PM1/29/08
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Hey, great... a new religion. When are the elections for pope or whatever
you want to call the new power tripper. The king is dead, long live the
king.
When are you silly humans going to stop looking for the answer from without?
Look in the mirror, there you will see the problem. Look again but this time
into the eyes. Stare into them. There you will find the solution. There you
will also find the universe.
Be your own god. Or do you have the guts?


Cliff

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Feb 8, 2008, 7:02:13 AM2/8/08
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Is pantheism a religion? Does it have a god as its figure head. Do
pantheists worship or pray? Do you know?

Cliff

Ann

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Feb 9, 2008, 3:55:10 PM2/9/08
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Cliff <cl...@wheatleymetalfabrications.co.uk> expounded:

No it doesn't.

> Do
>pantheists worship or pray?

Depends on what you call worship or pray.

> Do you know?

Yes I do.
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Ann
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Surfer

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Feb 11, 2008, 3:47:54 AM2/11/08
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There are different varieties of pantheism, but you should find
reasonable answers here:

The Universal Pantheist Society
http://www.pantheist.net

The World Pantheist Movement
http://www.pantheism.net


Cliff

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Feb 11, 2008, 7:39:12 AM2/11/08
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I may be a pantheist but I'm not sure. I've always thought of myself
as atheist, which is more of a statement describing what I don't
believe. I have looked at a few belief systems and the one that I find
closest to my beliefs appears to be taoism. This seems very similar to
pantheism in it's respect for the earth and all life. The one big
thing that gives me doubts about pantheism is the use of the word God.
I reject all ideas of a conscious, all knowing, creator and if that is
not what pantheists believe in then who or what is the God they
mention. If God is just the greatness of nature or the spark of life
that links us all then why use the word God?

As you can see, I recoil from anything that relates to God. Is the God
necessary in pantheism? Is the pantheists idea of God something I
could live with?

Cliff

Cliff

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Feb 11, 2008, 7:41:38 AM2/11/08
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Nice straight forward answers. Thanks, so why do pantheists use the
word God?

Cliff

Ann

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Feb 11, 2008, 8:15:40 AM2/11/08
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Cliff <cl...@wheatleymetalfabrications.co.uk> expounded:

Most don't. I don't. There are those who feel the need, having been
raised in a christian religion, to fill a 'god-shaped hole', so to
speak, so they use the word, but it's misapplied, as far as I'm
concerned.

My church is nature, there's no guy in the sky, but the Universe is
something to ponder with awe and wonder. That's Pantheism to me.

Ann

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Feb 11, 2008, 8:24:16 AM2/11/08
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Cliff <cl...@wheatleymetalfabrications.co.uk> expounded:

Cliff, you really should come on over to the WPM page and read up
some. I think you'll be pleased. http://www.pantheism.net .

We're having a rousing discussion right now on our Communities list
about some of your questions raised above.

Cliff

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Feb 11, 2008, 9:03:41 AM2/11/08
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Thanks for the invite. I have been reading the WPM pages. It's good to
find people with so many beliefs I agree with.

Cliff

Krum

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Feb 17, 2008, 6:05:28 PM2/17/08
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On Feb 11, 8:15 am, Ann <ann...@newsguy.com> wrote:
> Cliff <cl...@wheatleymetalfabrications.co.uk> expounded:
>
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> >On 9 Feb, 20:55, Ann <ann...@newsguy.com> wrote:
> >> Cliff <cl...@wheatleymetalfabrications.co.uk> expounded:
>
> >> >On 29 Jan, 21:16, "eee ff" <e...@GGG.CA> wrote:
> >> >> Hey, great... a new religion. When are the elections for pope or whatever
> >> >> you want to call the new power tripper. The king is dead, long live the
> >> >> king.
> >> >> When are you silly humans going to stop looking for the answer from without?
> >> >> Look in the mirror, there you will see the problem. Look again but this time
> >> >> into the eyes. Stare into them. There you will find the solution. There you
> >> >> will also find the universe.
> >> >> Be your own god. Or do you have the guts?
>
> >> >Ispantheisma religion? Does it have a god as its figure head.

>
> >> No it doesn't.
>
> >> > Do
> >> >pantheists worship or pray?
>
> >> Depends on what you call worship or pray.
>
> >> > Do you know?
>
> >> Yes I do.
> >> --
> >> Ann
> >> e-mail address is not checked
>
> >Nice straight forward answers. Thanks, so why do pantheists use the
> >word God?
>
> Most don't. I don't. There are those who feel the need, having been
> raised in a christian religion, to fill a 'god-shaped hole', so to
> speak, so they use the word, but it's misapplied, as far as I'm
> concerned.
>
> My church is nature, there's no guy in the sky, but the Universe is
> something to ponder with awe and wonder. That's Pantheism to me.
> --
> Ann
> e-mail address is not checked

There is a variation called PanDeism which asserts belief in a God,
but it is not any God that people of a theistic religion would
recognize. The PanDeist God is consistent with the nature of the
Universe. That is to say PanDeism suggests that whatever science
reveals to be the mechanism of the Universe, that is the mechanism of
the God that the Universe is.

Ann

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Feb 22, 2008, 3:43:55 PM2/22/08
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Krum <knujon...@hotmail.com> expounded:

>There is a variation called PanDeism which asserts belief in a God,
>but it is not any God that people of a theistic religion would
>recognize. The PanDeist God is consistent with the nature of the
>Universe. That is to say PanDeism suggests that whatever science
>reveals to be the mechanism of the Universe, that is the mechanism of
>the God that the Universe is.

There's Panentheism, also. I stick to what was originally called
Scientific Pantheism, it worked for me :o)

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