Information about the space brothers & the great UFO cover-up - soon to end
knowbuddee
of us who know about them, the better.
The great cover-up concerning their existence (and benevolent nature)
will be swept out of our way sooner than you think, and for the first
time ever, our civilization will flourish like never before.
"...all the Apollo and Gemini flights were followed, both at a
distance and sometimes also quite closely, by space vehicles of
extraterrestrial origin - flying saucers or UFOs (Unidentified flying
objects) if you want to call them by that name. Every time it
occurred, the astronauts informed Mission Control, who then ordered
absolute silence." (Maurice Chatlein - NASA scientist, inventor and
designer of the Apollo communications)
"I had to remind myself that, after all, they too were human beings
and, no matter how far advanced beyond us, must still be subject to
error and vicissitude..." (from Inside The Space Ships by George
Adamski excerpt & link to free book download below)
"We've been ordered to work up a national debunking campaign, planting
articles in magazines and arranging broadcasts to make UFO reports
sound like Poppycock." (CIA report January 1953)
"Our study would be conducted exclusively by "NON Believer's." The
trick would be, I think, to describe the project so that to the public
it would appear totally objective study. Conclusion…. There is no
secrecy and no evidence that such objects even exist." Memorandum from
Robert Low (Project Administrator CONDON report Oct 1966-Jan 1969) to
Colorado University V.P. Thurston Marshall.
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George Adamski's book "Inside The Space Ships" (1955)
Please see the except from this book below.
free download of this book or view free at these sites:
1) http://www.thenewearth.org/InsideTheSpaceShips.html
2) http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/archivos_pdf/adamsk_insidespaceship...
3) http://www.divshare.com/download/7933022-1ed
4) http://www.scribd.com/doc/11656731/Inside-the-Space-Ships-George-Adamski
5) http://www.box.net/shared/xmzzo9n3ig (pdf)
Inside The Space Ships by George Adamski excerpt...
I had to remind myself that, after all, they too were human beings
and, no matter how far advanced beyond us, must still be subject to
error and vicissitude...
Here again a wondering thought slipped in as I mentally questioned
what they had found on the “other planets” they had visited.
The Venusian’s eyes sparkled and a tiny smile flitted across his mouth
as he caught my thought. He continued without interruption. “With the
sole exception of inhabitants on Earth, we have found the peoples of
other worlds to be very friendly. They, too, have gigantic space
cruisers for the pleasure and education of their fellowmen. As we
visit their planets and are welcomed, they also visit ours as friends.
It is to the Earth alone that these passenger cruisers never approach.
Nor will they be permitted to do so until your people have a greater
understanding of fellowship as well as of the Universe beyond the
limiting confines of your own little planet.
During flights of this kind, those on the cruise have much leisure
time, as well as definite hours devoted to learning. When they land on
other planets mutually interesting social gatherings are held. In
short,” and he made this very clear, “peoples of other worlds are not
strangers to one another, but all are friends and are welcomed
wherever they go. We consider planets throughout the Universe as being
in one vast sea of life. The far distant planets by the billions which
we have not yet visited will be explored when we have further improved
our space ships. There are some planets so far out from any in our
system that it would take us two or three years to reach them.
Whereas, within our system, the distance between planets can be
covered within a few hours to a few days.”
Reviewing our concept of distance, I exclaimed, “That is staggering to
me! How fast do you travel that you can cover such vast distances in
so short a time?”
Speed to us,” was the reply, “does not mean what it does to you. For
once a ship is launched into outer space, the speed of the ship is
equal to the activity in space! Instead of being artificially
propelled, as are your planes, ours travel on the currents of space.”
I derived some small hope for our eventual progress on Earth when they
freely admitted that, in the earliest attempts to conquer space, the
inhabitants of Venus and those of other worlds had been faced with
exactly the same problems as those that are holding us back today.
Once again they stressed that gravity must be overcome as a first
principle on the way to space travel...
...you have been brought here and shown what lies within our smaller
craft and this large carrier. You have traveled in each for a short
distance only, but far enough to give you much knowledge to pass on to
your fellow men on planet Earth. You have seen what outer space is
like and that it is indeed constantly active, filled with moving
particles from out of which all forms are finally brought into being.
There is neither a beginning nor an ending.
In the vastness of space there are innumerable bodies which you on
Earth call planets. These vary in size, as do all forms, but they are
very much like your own world and ours, and most of them are peopled
and governed by forms like yourselves and like us. While some are just
reaching a point where they are capable of supporting such forms as
ours, others have not yet reached that stage of development in their
growth.
For you must understand that worlds are but forms, and they too go
through the long period of growth which all forms experience, from the
smallest to the largest. Each planet moves in co-ordination with a
number of other planets around a central Sun, in perfect timing,
forming a unit or what you would call a system. In each case, so far
as we have learned from our travels, there are twelve planets in a
system. Beyond that, twelve such systems are united around a central
core comparable to our Sun. These make up what some of your scientists
call an ‘island universe’ We have reason to believe that twelve such
island universes comprise a vast unit in the Father’s house of many
mansions . . . and so on, without end.
On our planet, and on other planets within our system, the form which
you call ‘man’ has grown and advanced intellectually and socially
through various stages of development to a point which is
inconceivable to the people of your Earth. This development has been
accomplished only by adhering to what you would term the laws of
Nature. In our worlds it is known as growth through following the laws
of the All Supreme Intelligence which governs all time and space.
As you have seen, we travel space as easily as you cross a room. The
traversing of space is not difficult to those who have mastered the
laws within which all bodies live and move—planets and men alike. It
is then understood that distance between two such bodies in space, or
that between worlds, is no distance at all as you conceive of distance
in your world.
Remember, at one time the distance between the ‘~ bodies of land on
your Earth, which you call continents, was considered great, and much
time was required to travel from one to another. Now your aircraft
have shortened this distance to a relative fraction of the time
required in days past. Yet the distances are the same. And so it will
be as you extend your knowledge and learn the laws operating in
infinite space.
Another aspect of which as yet you have no conception is that the body
of any human being can be as comfortable on one planet as on another.
While there are some differences in atmospheric conditions, depending
upon the size and age of the planet, these are little greater than
those which you experience on your Earth 1 between sea level and on a
mountain several thousand feet high. Certain people are affected by
such changes, more than others, but all can become acclimated in time.
Recalling the popular conception of ponderous headgear plus tubes and
gadgets, as depicted all the way from the “comics” to serious theories
of supposed experts, I wondered if our world was the lowest in
development throughout the Universe.
Reading my thought and continuing without interruption, this great
teacher said, “No, my son, your world is not the lowest in development
in the Universe. Yours is the least developed of those in our own
system, but out beyond there are some worlds whose peoples have not
yet grown to your standard, either socially or scientifically. Also,
there are worlds where development has gone far in the field of
science and remained low in the field of personal and social
understanding, even though space has been conquered. In our system,
the peoples of all planets except your Earth are traveling space
freely; some for short distances only, while others achieve great
distances that take them to systems beyond our own.
Your understanding of life and the Universe is very limited. As a
result, you have many false concepts about other worlds and the
composition of the Universe; and so little knowledge of yourselves!
But it also is true that there is a growing desire on the part of many
on Earth who seek sincerely for greater understanding. We who have
traveled the path you now are treading are willing to help and to give
of our knowledge to all who will accept it.
The first fact your people must realize is that the inhabitants of
other worlds are not fundamentally different from Earth men. The
purpose of life on other worlds is basically the same as yours.
Inherent in all mankind, however deeply buried it may be, is the
yearning to rise to something higher. Your school system on Earth is,
in a sense, patterned after the universal progress of life. For in
your schools you progress from grade to grade and from school to
school, toward a higher and fuller education. In the same way, man
progresses from planet to planet, and from system to system toward an
ever higher understanding and evolvement in universal growth and
service.”
----
You know that there are certain groups in your world who have already
made claim for property rights and possession of your Moon for the
purpose of using it as a military base. Many Earth scientists are
hoping that, in the not too distant future, they will succeed in
building space ships like ours for interplanetary travel. It is
entirely possible that this will be done. But Earth men will not be
allowed to come in numbers or to remain, until they have learned to
embrace the all-inclusive life as lived by people of other worlds,
rather than the selfish personal life as found on Earth today. And
there will be much for you to learn about outer space, for it is on
space itself that you will move.
My son, our main purpose in coming to you at this time is to warn you
of the grave danger which threatens men of Earth today. Knowing more
than any amongst you can yet realize, we feel it our duty to enlighten
you if we can. Your people may accept the knowledge we hope to give
them through you and through others, or they can turn deaf ears and
destroy themselves. The choice is with the Earth’s inhabitants. We
cannot dictate.
In your first meeting with our Brother here, he indicated to you that
the exploding of bombs on Earth was of interest to us. This is why.
Even though the power and radiation from the test explosions have not
yet gone out beyond your Earth’s sphere of influence, these radiations
are endangering the life of men on Earth. A decomposition will set in
that, in time, will fill your atmosphere with the deadly elements
which your scientists and your military men have confined into what
you term ‘bombs
The radiations released from those bombs are now going out only so
far, since they are lighter than your own atmosphere and heavier than
space itself. If, however, mankind on Earth should release such power
against one another in full warfare, a large part of Earth’s
population could be annihilated, your soil rendered sterile, your
waters poisoned and barren to life for many years to come. It is
possible that the body of your planet itself could be mutilated to an
extent that would destroy her balance in our galaxy.
These would be the effects directly concerning your world. For us,
traveling through space could be made difficult and dangerous for a
long time to come, since the energies released in such multiple
explosions would then penetrate through your atmosphere into outer
space.
I wondered whether, and to what extent, if war should actually come to
us, they would feel justified in stopping us.
The master answered my mental question by saying, “As you know, with
our knowledge of the use and control over energies far more powerful
than any our brothers on Earth have as yet learned to use, we could,
if we wished, nullify your force with our greater force. But remember
what you have been told. We do not kill our fellow man, even in sell-
defence. We are trying, and shall continue to try, to prevent such a
war by bringing to Earth men the knowledge of what they would be
doing. For no man wages war except in ignorance.”
A light came into his face and his eyes seemed to be looking at some
inward vision of beauty as he continued softly, “And no man lives who
has never once dreamed of what you call Utopia, or the nearly perfect
world. There is nothing which man has ever imagined which is not,
somewhere, a reality. And, therefore, nothing that is not possible of
achievement. For you too, on Earth, this is possible. For us on the
other planets of our galaxy, it is so now. There are those on your
Earth who have exclaimed, ‘But how monotonous perfection must be!’ It
is not so, my son, for there are degrees of perfection just as there
are degrees of all things. In our worlds, we are happy, but we do not
stagnate. Just as when one reaches the top of a hill seen from below,
a further hill comes into view, so it is always with progress. The
valley that lies between must be crossed before the next height can be
scaled.
Understanding of the universal laws both uplifts and restricts. As it
is now with us, so it could be on your Earth. Lifted up by your
knowledge, this same understanding would make it impossible for you to
move in violence against your brothers. You would know that the same
conviction, inherent in every individual being, which makes him feel
that be has the divine privilege of directing his own life and shaping
his own destiny, even though it be by the path of trial and error,
applies equally to any group, nation or race of mankind.
Just as there are many downward paths, leading away from progress, so
there are many that lead upward. Though one man may choose one and a
second man another, this need not divide them as brothers. Indeed, one
may learn much from the other, if he will. For in the vastness of the
infinite creation, there is no one way that is the only way.
On your Earth we have heard many times the phrase ‘the road to
happiness’ It is a good phrase, for progress is happiness and lies all
along the upward pathway from its beginning. And happiness makes men
brothers in tolerance toward another man’s efforts, even though of a
different nature from their own.
There is nothing wrong with your Earth, nor with its people, except
that in their lack of understanding they are young children in the
universal life of the One Supreme Being. You have been told that in
our worlds we live the Creator’s laws, while as yet on Earth you only
talk of them. If you would live by the precepts of even what you now
know, the peoples of Earth would not go out to slaughter one another.
They would work within themselves, their own groups, their own
nations, to achieve good and happiness in that section of your world
wherein they were born and therefore call ‘home
I think the peoples of Earth would be amazed to find how swiftly a
change could come throughout the planet. Now that you have the medium
for world-wide broadcasting, messages urging love and tolerance for
all, instead of suspicion and censure, would find receptive hearts.
For the great part of the Earth’s population is weary of strife and
its aftermath of woe. We know that, as never before, they hunger for
knowledge of a way of life that will deliver them. We know that there
is fear and confusion in their minds because they have seen and felt
the results of two great wars that have served only to foster the
seeds of another.
So, with receptive minds and hearts everywhere on your planet, it is
not too late. But there is urgency, my son! So go forth with the
blessing of the Infinite Father on your mission, and add your voice to
those of others who also carry this message of hope.”
===
I wonder,” I said slowly, “if you would care to comment a little
further on the reason why, even though war on our Earth would endanger
the traveling through space of millions who live on other planets, you
still feel it wrong to hurt the few in order to benefit the many.
We will try to explain,” Orthon answered. “To all of us who have from
birth been instilled with a vision of the whole, it is unthinkable to
disobey what we know to be the universal laws. These laws are made by
no man. They were in the beginning, and will endure throughout
eternity. Under these laws each individual, each group of mankind, all
intelligent life on each world, must decide its own destiny without
interference from another. Counsel, yes. Instruction, yes. But
interference to the point of destruction, never.”
His questioning look seemed to ask if he had made the principle
clearer.
Firkon, the Martian, spoke for the first time. “You understand the
power of thought forms. Apart from our physical missions on Earth, all
of us must hold firmly to the belief that the peoples of your Earth
will themselves awaken to the disaster toward which they are moving.”
I see,” I said slowly, as the issue did indeed clarify itself in my
mind.
We know that the power of this thought continually sent out to all our
Earth brothers has changed the hearts of many,” Ramu stated.
We also are aware,” Ilmuth pointed out, “as are you and many other
people on your Earth, that your air forces and your governments know
that our ships seen in your skies are coming from outer space, and
that they can be made and piloted only by intelligent beings from
other planets. Men high in the governments of your world have been
contacted by us. Some are good men and do not want war. But even the
good men on your Earth cannot entirely free themselves from the fear
which has been fostered by man himself on your planet throughout the
centuries.”
The same is true of your fliers everywhere on Earth,” Kalna said
quietly, “many have seen our ships again and again. But they have been
muzzled and warned, and few dare speak out.”
It is the same with your scientists,” Firkon added.
Again I marveled at their knowledge of our world and its peoples.
“Then it would seem,” I said, “that the answer lies largely with the
ordinary man in the street, multiplied by his millions the world
over.”
They would be your strength,” Firkon quickly agreed, “and if they
would speak against war in sufficient numbers everywhere, some leaders
in different parts of your world would listen gladly.”
### end of excerpt ###
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There are four giant UFOs who are working now to herald the emergence
of Maitreya the World Teacher.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuuMOvy1KNE
At first they look like stars...
1) Information to help spot them
they behave in a way unlike any other celestial object, & are seen in
Earth's atmosphere.
Can: move, spin, pulsate, blink, change size & shape (eg round,
diamond, hexagonal), change position, get closer, &/or recede, very
quickly.
Very bright, sometimes the only star visible, can radiate bright
colours, often in quick succession, has been sighted day & night.
Can respond to thought: has been known to appear and move when asked.
Can be seen all over the world.
The 'star' regularly recharges its energy from the sun, so is not
always visible.
While you're searching the sky, it may help to mentally silently ask
something like this: "Hey space brothers, please let me see you."
====================
"Its seems that all the Apollo and Gemini flights were followed, both
at a distance and sometimes also quite closely, by space vehicles of
extraterrestrial origin - flying saucers or UFOs (Unidentified flying
objects) if you want to call them by that name. Every time it
occurred, the astronauts informed Mission Control, who then ordered
absolute silence." Maurice Chatlein - NASA scientist, inventor and
designer of the Apollo communications and data processing systems
"We've been ordered to work up a national debunking campaign, planting
articles in magazines and arranging broadcasts to make UFO reports
sound like Poppycock." CIA report January 1953.
"Our study would be conducted exclusively by "NON Believer's." The
trick would be, I think, to describe the project so that to the public
it would appear totally objective study. Conclusion…. There is no
secrecy and no evidence that such objects even exist." Memorandum from
Robert Low (Project Administrator CONDON report Oct 1966-Jan 1969) to
Colorado University V.P. Thurston Marshall.
Air Material Command's opinion concerning flying discs: "The
phenomenon reported is something real and not visionary or fictitious.
The spread of the UFO's in global identity creates indisputable
evidence that their strategic operation center and home base could
only be extraterrestrial." Lieutenant General Twining - Commander USAF
& Chief Of Staff - Sept 2, 1947.
" The Air Force and its investigative agency, project Blue Book, are
aware of Major Keyhoe's conclusion that Flying Saucers are from
another planet." Major Donald Keyhoe (Project Blue Book) Letter:
Flying Saucers from Outer Space, Air Corp. Washington (AFS)
" I feel the Air Force has not been giving out all available
information on these Unidentified flying objects. You cannot disregard
so many unimpeachable sources." John McCormack, Speaker U.S. House of
Representatives - The Sunday Mirror, October 9, 1966.
Theologians …..
"UFO's are real and have Key Religious Significance. Recognizing the
existence and operation of these objects can do much to strengthen
faith and renew Biblical confidence. What is clear through Biblical
material that Gods will was revealed by beings from other worlds,
these beings looked very much like ordinary men - not having wings
which is only religious symbolism." Rev. B Downing - Pastor, B.S.
Physics Princeton Theological Seminary - University Edinburgh,
Scotland.
"From a theological point of view, the existence of these visitors is
not only just possible it is probable and likely. We would be naïve to
believe that God's grace has only be given to the inhabitants of
Earth." Father S.B. Reyna - Priest & Astronomer - Adhara Observatory
Buenos Aires. (also noted photographer of several UFOs over
observatory.)
"God's desire to share his goodness would be better satisfied by
having myriad's of galaxies inhabited by intelligent beings." Rev.
Joseph Lynch, Fordham University, Seismologist. Four Hundred
scientists and space engineers applauded Dr. Lynch at the closing
session to symposium "The Search for Extraterrestrial Life". (AP) Los
Angeles - Appleton Post Crescent, May 26, 1966.
" Innumerable suns exist. Innumerable Earths revolve around these -
Living beings inhabit these worlds." Giordano Bruno, 1548 - 1600 Burnt
on the stake for heresy.
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fully disclose the facts about UFOs, extraterrestrial intelligence,
and classified advanced energy and propulsion systems. We have over
400 government, military, and intelligence community witnesses
testifying to their direct, personal, first hand experience with UFOs,
ETs, ET technology, and the cover-up that keeps this information
secret.
http://www.disclosureproject.org/
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It is very important that this information be spread far and wide.
Please share this (in whole or any part) with others.
Thank you.
Tom
> You are hereby encouraged to learn about the space brothers. The more
> of us who know about them, the better.
>
> The great cover-up concerning their existence (and benevolent nature)
> will be swept out of our way sooner than you think, and for the first
> time ever, our civilization will flourish like never before.
Then there's really no need to go learn about them from obscure
sources, is there? This will all be cleared up shortly. All we have
to do is wait.
> It is very important that this information be spread far and wide.
>
> Please share this (in whole or any part) with others.
Why bother? The cover-up will be swept away sooner than we think
anyway. You *do* trust the space brothers, don't you?.
Hell, they have to capacity to span many light-years of space and have
both superior technology and superior minds. Are you worried that
they cannot outwit a few paranoid backwater rustics (galactically
speaking) unless *you* help them?
Ato_Zee
On 30-Sep-2009, Tom <dant...@comcast.net> wrote:
> Hell, they have to capacity to span many light-years of space and have
> both superior technology and superior minds.
And all they seem to be interested in is making crop circles.
Hardly worth the effort of travelling for several light years.
knowbuddee
now. They have successfully fooled most of the people most of the
time, but sightings are become very common and people are learning
that the governments who serve the insanely greedy and selfish ruling
elite can not be trusted. Those who say that Adamski was a fraud are
saying exactly what the ruling elite want them to say. They know that
if a lie is repeated often enough, a steadily growing number of people
will believe it.
"...
The UFOs are known by the major governments in the world to be real,
to exist, to be very advanced spacecraft... Most of the UFOs visiting
this planet come from Mars and Venus. Most of them, even the Venusian
ones, are made on Mars, which is a kind of great industrial planet.
All of them are of subtle, etheric, not dense physical, matter. They
can lower the vibrational rate of that matter until it comes within
the range of our sight, so for a limited period they are visible.
Normally, unless you have etheric vision, they would be invisible, but
to the Martians, the Venusians and so on, they are visible because
they are in that same kind of energy. If you went to Mars, you would
see nothing, yet there are more people on Mars than on this planet.
Their technology is thousands of years ahead of ours at the present
time...All the planets, without exception, are inhabited. In my
experience, UFOs are absolutely real. They cannot usually be seen by
us because their normal state is on the higher etheric, not solid,
physical levels. When we do see them, this is because they lower the
vibrational rate of the vehicles to come within our vision, as a
temporary manifestation...They help us in many ways and without them
this earth would be a very painful place indeed. They mop up a great
deal of the nuclear radiation which we release into the atmosphere
through nuclear experimentation. Even if a test is underground,
contaminated, poisoned dust flies up into the atmosphere. The space
beings have ‘implosion’ devices which neutralize this nuclear
radiation. Without their assistance our rivers and streams would be
undrinkable; we would, literally, be dying... Without their help we
would be in a very sad state...Their intention is totally
beneficial ...All Hierarchies of all the planets in this system are in
touch with each other, and everything that takes place in an extra-
terrestrial sense takes place under Law."
Source:
Benjamin Creme
http://tinyurl.com/spacebros
http://share-international.org/archives/UFOs/faq_UFOs.htm
The truth as they say, really is often stranger than fiction.
KB
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See the 'star like luminaries' that are heralding the slowly breaking
biggest news story of all time.
Actually they are four UFOs visible from all four corners of the earth
from time to time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuuMOvy1KNE
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"We've been ordered to work up a national debunking campaign,planting
articles in magazines and arranging broadcasts to make UFO reports
sound like Poppycock." (CIA report January 1953)
"Our study would be conducted exclusively by "NON Believer's." The
trick would be, I think, to describe the project so that to the public
it would appear totally objective study. Conclusion…. There is no
secrecy and no evidence that such objects even exist." Memorandum from
Robert Low (Project Administrator CONDON report Oct 1966-Jan 1969) to
Colorado University V.P. Thurston Marshall.
"...all the Apollo and Gemini flights were followed, both at a
distance and sometimes also quite closely, by space vehicles of
extraterrestrial origin - flying saucers or UFOs (Unidentified flying
objects) if you want to call them by that name. Every time it
occurred, the astronauts informed Mission Control, who then ordered
absolute silence." (Maurice Chatlein - NASA scientist, inventor and
designer of the Apollo communications)
========================================
"I had to remind myself that, after all, they too were human beings
and, no matter how far advanced beyond us, must still be subject to
error and vicissitude..." (from Inside The Space Ships by George
Adamski excerpt & link to free book download below)
Tom
Ah, good old Ben. He used to just tell people he was Maitreya and
spout ersatz Buddhism, but I see he's sort of degenerated over time
into a mere UFO cultist. Sort of like Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh. After
having been ejected from the US for bioterrorism and having been
convicted of illicit drug manufacture in England, he fled back to
India where he claimed that he was possessed by Gautama Buddha, but
had to exorcize that most illustrious spirit when he disapproved of
the Bhagwan's Jaccuzi. Then he decided to call himself "Zorba the
Buddha" for a while, but nobody was much interested in that, so he
changed his name to "Osho" and kept the show going. Finally, just
before he died he announced that he'd demoted himself from being God
because it was too much pressure trying to pretend he was enlightened
all the time. On his deathbed, sucking nitrous oxide, as was his
habit for years, he told his followers, "Put me under the bed and
forget about me." Not that this stopped his lieutenants from
continuing to promote him after his death, of course. After all, a
buck is a buck and a gullible nubile girl or boy is always a treat,
especially for lecherous power-tripping fifty-ish aging newagers.
Right, Ben?
Alrah
>
> - Show quoted text -
And now you're showing a reaction from your frustrated idealistic
romantic nature Tom, that you run away from in all it's passion
because one day you were rejected and frustrated and never learned to
overcome it by loving yourself - instead of relying on someone else to
validate you in all your selfishness with their love.
Hows the wife and you btw?
rh777
> Hell, they have to capacity to span many light-years of space and have
> both superior technology and superior minds. Are you worried that
> they cannot outwit a few paranoid backwater rustics (galactically
> speaking) unless *you* help them?
No not at all. We have to help ourselves though. The Space Brothers
are required to obey certain laws. One very important law is that
they can't infringe mankind's free will. The more people open their
minds to them, the more the law enables them to help us. The more of
us who cooperate with them and the Plan, the better.
It is very helpful for us to pressure the news media to cover UFO
sitings. It is also very helpful for us to spread information about
them to others.
On more civilized planets, the news media's role is to provide helpful
and imortant information to the people.
On Earth the news media serves selfish and insanely greedy people. The
blind lead the blind. They are in it for money, and they uphold the
status quo. They like having cheap labour/slaves. In the USA for
example, they don't mention that the average worker in other developed
nations (even those with the worst jobs) get 6 or 7 weeks of paid
vacation time per year, and that everyone has health care. They don't
mention that we spend more than all the other nations combined on
military and that the military often picks fights with others since
peace is their biggest threat. Rather than point out major
differences that make other nations more democratic and comfortable,
the US news media supresses that information because they support the
status quo. They don't want to see change. They like things just the
way they are. As Malcolm X pointed out, they can make villains look
like good guys and vice versa.
==============================================
As everyone will soon learn, all of the planets have Hierarchies. The
leader of the one on Earth is Maitreya and He'll soon present His
credentials to all of humanity.
He'll inspire us to see ourselves as one huge family and to rebuild
the world based upon the principles of sharing, justice, brotherhood
and love. Everyone who's interested should remember that worshipping
Maitreya and any of the Masters of Wisdom is an impediment to
understanding. The future for mankind is incredibly bright.
More details: http://www.Share-International.org
Tom
> On Sep 30, 5:26 pm, Tom <danto...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > Hell, they have to capacity to span many light-years of space and have
> > both superior technology and superior minds. Are you worried that
> > they cannot outwit a few paranoid backwater rustics (galactically
> > speaking) unless *you* help them?
>
> No not at all. We have to help ourselves though. The Space Brothers
> are required to obey certain laws. One very important law is that
> they can't infringe mankind's free will.
Except for the anal probes of course.
> It is very helpful for us to pressure the news media to cover UFO
> sitings.
Who is helped by reports of UFO sightings and how exactly are they
helped?
> It is also very helpful for us to spread information about
> them to others.
You said they are about to show up and do that for themselves. Again,
who is helped and how exactly are they helped?
> On more civilized planets, the news media's role is to provide helpful
> and imortant information to the people.
Like UFO sightings.
> On Earth the news media serves selfish and insanely greedy people. The
> blind lead the blind. They are in it for money, and they uphold the
> status quo. They like having cheap labour/slaves. In the USA for
> example, they don't mention that the average worker in other developed
> nations (even those with the worst jobs) get 6 or 7 weeks of paid
> vacation time per year, and that everyone has health care.
Ah, the ubiquitous "they"! "They" are guilty of all manner of
things. If not one of "them" then certainly another of "them".
"They" are communists, capitalists, racists, Jews, pod-people,
reptilians, atheists, fundamentalists, Islamis terrorists, the
government, the Illuminati, and whatever else you can think of that
you might not like. That "they" are not at all the same has nothing
to do with it. They are "they", the Bad Guys.
I've heard plenty of news media in the US talk about health care in
other industrialized countries. That your particular factoid doesn't
get repeated every day by all of them means absolutely nothing about
what "they" are suppressing.
> As everyone will soon learn, all of the planets have Hierarchies. The
> leader of the one on Earth is Maitreya and He'll soon present His
> credentials to all of humanity.
Let's just wait until the Space Brothers have shown themselves to
everybody before we start submitting our nominations.
rh777
the british government pays farmers to destroy crop circles.
The truth threatens the status quo.
Check these out!
http://www.colinandrews.net/Crop-Circles-2009.html
The cover-up people have most people believing that crop circles are
man-made hoaxes.
If they are geometrically perfect they are real.
==============
"Man must change or die.
There is no other course."
The world Teacher
http://www.Share-International.org
jos boersema
On 2009-11-02, rh777 <rohoha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> the british government pays farmers to destroy crop circles.
>
> The truth threatens the status quo.
>
>
> Check these out!
>
> http://www.colinandrews.net/Crop-Circles-2009.html
>
> The cover-up people have most people believing that crop circles are
> man-made hoaxes.
>
> If they are geometrically perfect they are real.
>
>==============
>
> "Man must change or die.
> There is no other course."
> The world Teacher
> http://www.Share-International.org
>>
>> > Hell, they have to capacity to span many light-years of space and have
>> > both superior technology and superior minds. �Are you worried that
>> > they cannot outwit a few paranoid backwater rustics (galactically
>> > speaking) unless *you* help them?
>>
>> No not at all. �We have to help ourselves though. The Space Brothers
>> are required to obey certain laws. �One very important law is that
>> they can't infringe mankind's free will. The more people open their
>> minds to them, the more the law enables them to help us. The more of
>> us who cooperate with them and the Plan, the better.
How do you like this plan: http://www.jhwh.be ?
I'm not asking for whether it is a good or bad, true or false plan,
I'm asking whether you want to do it or not. I don't need to get
information on whether the plan is good or bad, true or false,
I already know. I need people to go do it with me.
--
jos boersema
heh, i replied to this matraya bullshit ... sigh.
That matraya guy is a complete fraud. What does he "teach" ...
"sharing" ? He is an amateur, he knows nothing and will get
nothing done, most likely a con artist -- but what do i know.
--
http://www.socialism.nl
knowbuddee
eventually set us free. The cover-up people have most people
believing that crop circles are man-made hoaxes. If they are
http://www.colinandrews.net/Crop-Circles-2009.html
"We've been ordered to work up a national debunking campaign, planting
articles in magazines and arranging broadcasts to make UFO reports
sound like Poppycock." (CIA report January 1953)
Obviously, they have been very successful,but the coverup will soon
become another relic of the past.
Dr. Stephen Greer with the disclosure group is trying to persuade the
Obama camp to end the coverup.
http://www.disclosureproject.org/
=======
We shall know the truth, and the truth shall set us free. It will set
us forever free from corrupt politicians and all the wars, hunger and
poverty that they create. It will set us free from the illusions and
misunderstandings that prevent us as individuals and as a group from
living up to our full potential. It is time for all of
humanity to learn about and experience first hand, the immense
beauty
and majesty that life on Earth is meant to be.
=======
Without sharing there can be no justice;
without justice there can be no peace;
without peace there can be no future...
Man must change or die.
There is no other course."
Maitreya, the World Teacher
http://www.share-international.org
jos boersema
Wat heb ik tegen het "new age" gebeuren en ook het boedisme:
a) Het is allemaal leeg gelul, holle woorden die geen gaatjes vullen.
b) Het stimuleert als een gek de aanbidding van lege prullen,
zoals hier "de hand van de matrajaja," en ook de aanbidding
van "matrajaja" zelf (onderwijl ook net doen alsof dat niet
hoeft, maar ondertussen toch weel wel natuurlijk, zo gerafineerd
zijn ze wel.
Ga iets aan de economie doen, zorg een dat het volk niet uitgeknepen
wordt door de land eigenaren, bedrijfsbazen en ander schuim daar
in india of tibet of waar dan ook. Als mijnheertje de dalalama op
een houtje bijt net als de rest van de armen, dan mag hij ook weer
zijn zegje doen.
Als het al ooit wat was met dat oosten en die oosterse religies,
het is allemaal zo corrupt als de pest en wat er echt toe doet
daar weten ze geen hol van (economie en overheden). Je zou het
kunnen vergelijken wellicht met de corruptie van het jodendom
binnen het vaticaan, daar is er ook niks meer van over.
Hou verdorie op met je blinde onderwerping aan prullen, je ziet
toch in india wat daar van komt ? Die gekken wachten hun hele
leven tot een tekening van een 8 armige olifant hun komt redden
uit de klauwen van hen bedrijfsbaas. Wanneer zien ze eens in dat
ze gewoon in actie moeten komen en hun macht en geld opeisen ?
Waarom bieden ze zich als slaven aan om uitgebuit te worden ?
Daarom zijn ze toch arm ? En om die armoede klagen ze toch ?
--
rh777
credentials
to the world:
During Benjamin Creme’s talk in San Francisco, USA, on 2 August 2009,
he gave the following discourse on the Day of Declaration.
The Christ will point to the need of the world to see itself as One.
We are One world. We must make our world One, with war a thing of the
past. Then the Masters can help us. Then They can show us the way to
build the most wonderful civilization this earth has ever seen. This
coming civilization will be created by humanity – inspired, guided
and
led by the Masters. We will have these men without fault living among
us. Maitreya is a man like us but without any fault whatsoever. He
knows only total altruistic love. He uses all His extraordinary
intelligence, wisdom and love to help humanity forward, to shield and
protect us. When Maitreya says: “I am your shield”, He means it
absolutely concretely. The Masters and, above all, Maitreya, are our
shield – shielding us from suffering, from too great an evil in the
world which would submerge humanity. He is here to present to us an
image of perfection to which we can aspire.
Maitreya has given to the world all the signs – the milk miracle
[1995], statues which move and open their eyes, paintings which weep
real tears – as signs that something tremendous is happening. There
are thousands of miracles all over the world so that Time magazine
devoted an eight-page spread to it [in April 1995]: “Something
extraordinary is happening in the world,” it said. That something is
the Reappearance of the Christ and the Masters of Wisdom in the world
as our Elder Brothers.
Very soon now Maitreya will appear on television in this country
[USA]
and later in Japan and then around the world and speak very simply so
that everyone can understand Him and when Maitreya talks you know it
is true. He speaks directly from the heart to the heart and that
energy which comes from being the embodiment of Love awakens that
love
in your heart and you believe what He says because you know it is
true. It is the only truth there is. It has to be true. You feel it
deeply within you. There’s no gainsaying that simple message of
trust,
of hope, of sharing, of justice and of peace as a result.
When enough people are responding to Maitreya in this way He will be
asked to come on television and speak to the whole world – now known
to many as the Christ. Many will see Him and think: “I’m sure that is
the man Creme has been talking about.” The television networks will
be
linked together for this event and “All eyes will see him” as it says
in the Bible. You will see His face – you will feel that energy – you
will say: “Only the Christ could fill my heart with that love”.
Maitreya is omniscient and omnipresent and one day all adult people
in
the world will hear His voice inwardly. He will, for 25 minutes or
so,
create this liaison, this telepathic rapport, between Him and us, and
you will know that what you are hearing is the truth.
One of the Masters has said: “People everywhere will become like
little children”, full of trust, full of love, full of goodness, full
of hope, full of aspiration with all that they have lost since
growing
up, before they become hardened, become commercialized, made rigid,
fearful, untrusting – only half a man or half a woman. But as
children
they will feel this is true. “I am part of the whole world.” They
will
feel connected to one another, as they never have before, not since
they were children. They will feel that union that a child always
feels if correctly brought up and it is never drilled out of him or
her. They will feel saintly, they will feel at their best, at their
most holy, as they never felt since they took first communion, if
they
did. Not since they were little children and they believed what their
parents said and they knew their parents would look after them. Then
they believed in God and they knew that God would look after them.
And
then they knew about the Pope and that he would look after them, but
he didn’t and they got let down and got hardened. They became
disbelievers and began to lose their humanity. They began to lose
that
thread that connects each person with every other person in the whole
of the universe on all planets and all systems. We are One. There is
only one humanity under the one God and we all share that humanity.
On the Day of Declaration as Maitreya’s energy of love pours out to
humanity this will evoke an outburst of our own love – we will feel
it, we will recognize it and see that this message is true.
Everything
that is said is true. Our hearts will tell us this is the truth; it
could not be otherwise. So, we must share, we must live in right
relationship, we must make justice, must put war behind us, never
discolour this earth again with war.
Maitreya will show us how old we are, for how long we have evolved
and
from what a height we have fallen to this base materiality of today
when commercialization through market forces is squeezing the life-
blood out of humanity, in which people are suffering ignominy for no
reason but that they were born poor – who have no stake in life
because they were born too poor.
Maitreya will also show humanity glimpses of the coming civilization
–
the beautiful cities we shall have, the type of architecture now
being
planned by Masters to be given to the world.
While this is going on there will be hundreds of thousands of
spontaneous healings. By the telepathic rapport and the overshadowing
of the minds and hearts of people everywhere, by the outflow of the
Christ Principle, the energy of love, and by the miraculous healings,
you will know that that One is the Christ. On the Day of Declaration
you will know with absolute certainty that the time of doubt is over.
This is the time in which Christ takes His place outwardly as the
Head
of Hierarchy, as the Eldest of all the Brothers of humanity, to stand
before us and to take us forward into that Kingdom of which He is the
Head – the Spiritual Kingdom which daily is growing out of the human
kingdom, as a man or woman here and there take initiation and
gradually evolve towards the light.
That day the Masters call the “Day of Days” will be a day without
precedence. There has never been a day like that. No one on Earth has
experienced what they will feel on that day. You will tell it to your
children and they will tell it to theirs; people will tell it to
their
children and so on for generation and generation.
Maitreya comes to bring revelation upon revelation. He comes to
reveal
the nature of the UFOs; the nature of our identity with God and a new
approach to God – not through belief but through knowledge,
understanding and evocation. We will come to evoke God and see that
we
are that which we evoke. We will see how rich and worthwhile life has
become just in one day.
That is the promise of the coming of the Christ for all people. He
comes for all people, religious and non-religious alike. He is not
concerned with whether you are religious or not. He is concerned with
whether you love your fellowmen or not. That is the measure.
http://www.share-international.org/magazine/old_issues/2009/2009-10.h...
He says: “Take your brother’s needs as the measure for your actions
and solve the problems of the world. There is no other course.”
=============
Have you seen the star-like luminary? It is one of four giant space
craft that appear from time to time in the four corners of the globe.
They are heralding Maitreya's emergence.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuuMOvy1KNE
On Nov 2, 2:12 pm, knowbuddee <knowbud...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The british government pays farmers to destroy crop circles. The
> truth threatens the status quo/world's biggest monopolies, but it will
> eventually set us free. The cover-up people have most people
> believing that crop circles are man-made hoaxes. If they are
> geometrically perfect they are real. Check these out!
>
> http://www.colinandrews.net/Crop-Circles-2009.html
>
> "We've been ordered to work up a national debunking campaign, planting
> articles in magazines and arranging broadcasts to make UFO reports
> sound like Poppycock." (CIA report January 1953)
>
> Obviously, they have been very successful,but the coverup will soon
> become another relic of the past.
>
> Dr. Stephen Greer with the disclosure group is trying to persuade the
> Obama camp to end the coverup.http://www.disclosureproject.org/
Master Bait
> Re: Maitreya's Day of Declaration - when He'll present His
> credentials
> to the world:
[snippity doo dah]
> Very soon now Maitreya will appear on television in this country
> [USA]
> and later in Japan and then around the world and speak very simply so
> that everyone can understand Him
My friends, it is so wonderful to be with you again.
I, Master Bait — The One Maitreya, have been very busy as Your Avatar. I
have appeared as a kindly hitchiker in Tucson, Arizona. I was the One
who lent you a quarter at the Sudzmor Laundromat in Trenton, New Jersey.
You may have seen me suddenly appear at the pulpit of the Evangelical
Free Church in Duluth, Minnesota. I blessed several cases of Coca-Cola
at a nearby Circle-K market.
These Personal Appearances among you absorb much of My time, but My Task
depends on these Appearances. I do not want to scare humanity when I
announce My Task on the Jerry Springer television show. These Personal
Appearances amongst those who now Know Me gently announce My presence to
the world.
Those who Know Me have free will, and will not publicize their
encounters with Me, because of their free will. And because of their
free will, well... that’s why nobody admits to encountering Me.
________________________________________
There is not all gloom and doom, My friends. For not only is a Future In
The Light assured for all, this very day is another opportunity in the
Infinite Opportunities of all days and nights to turn your heart to the
Light. That Light is Me, Master Bait — The One Maitreya.
To build Unity in mankind, you can help turn all hearts to Me by
performing this simple Differential Meditation. This meditation requires
no experience, no special antennae, no designer drugs, crosses,
pentacles, Star of Davids, wine, beer, incense, ortopaedic zafru
pillows, or ice-cold seedless watermelon. It does require music,
preferrably a tape, cd or record player. Radio only if a low-commercial
station can be found!
First read aloud this Affirmation of the Master:
“Toward Master Bait — The One Maitreya, and toward those who Know Him,
do I practice in my life that thought of friendliness, that outgoing,
that pouring out of sympathy, love, and support.”
Then breathe in and out 30 large breaths. Do this very quickly!
Then play good Holy dance music of your choice.
Close your hands into a fist.
Make your thumbs point up.
Extend your pinkies outward.
Bring your hands to your forhead and place the tips of your pinkies to
the place between, and one-half inch above, your eyebrows.
Close your eyes and DANCE!
In place, of course. For the next several hours.
Always concentrate on the very spot where your little pinkies touch your
forehead.
______________________________________________
Until My next message, brothers & sisters, know that I bless all that come to
Me
jos boersema
> Re: Maitreya's Day of Declaration - when He'll present His
> credentials
> to the world:
>
> he gave the following discourse on the Day of Declaration.
There is no such day is far as i know.
> The Christ will point to the need of the world to see itself as One.
Incorrect: i am pointing out why the world should see itself as many
nations that all need their complete sovereignty. I hope you notice
that this is a logical argument against corruption, and not some
mantra-reciting by some whatever.
> We are One world.
We are and need to be many nations.
You'll notice how your "one world" bid goes *against* the Torah ?
Remember the 'tower of Bable' story ?
> We must make our world One,
We are to make the world many sovereign nations, none too large.
It already mostly is that, except for certain empires like USA,
China and India - these need to be broken up.
> with war a thing of the
> past.
Saying that won't accomplish anything, didn't people say so thousands
of years ago ?
> Then the Masters can help us.
There is no such thing as "masters." That is all ancient monkey
behavior, and what *you* are trying to do is generate a new cult.
Expecting a lot of cash flow ?
We are all just worms, that's all there is to it, sorry.
> Then They can show us the way to
You are a big problem and a big asshole to use such capitalization.
You are the biggest problem in the world with your empty waiting
on others to solve your problems.
> build the most wonderful civilization this earth has ever seen.
Why don't you talk about things that matter, like what kind of
economic model you propose, what kind of state law. Oh right,
"sharing." Go home amateur, and do a few more thousands of years
of thinking on the subject. "Sharing" and "unity" as the single
guiding principles won't work, it *certainly* won't work in something
as big as th ewhole world. It *can* work in something as small as
a single family, where anonymity is low and thus both the good and
bad can be shared because everyone knows how much another is doing
and taking. That will result in a computation of what's fair, and
therefore even in such a small "sharing" family, in fact it is the
trade principle that works.
> This
> coming civilization will be created by humanity ? inspired, guided
> and
> led by the Masters.
Absolutely not, it will be led by the people themselves, of course.
What you're looking for is some kind of theocratic dictatorship,
with you close to the seat of power of course, where the cash flow
would be most intense, right ? You will just "volunteer" to take
that "duty" on yourselve, right ? How "wonderful" of you ...
> We will have these men without fault living among
> us.
Men without fault ?
> Maitreya is a man like us but without any fault whatsoever.
Empty (near east) Indian superstitious bullshit.
You go on like that and all of India will need to be destroyed because
they never solve their problems, how does that sound ? Should you
manage your cult in the west, the west may also need to be destroyed.
> He
> knows only total altruistic love.
Yeah ? Does it look like that ? My mistake.
> He uses all His extraordinary
> intelligence, wisdom and love to help humanity forward, to shield and
> protect us.
I'm probably smart enough, but not more so then any reasonable person
should be.
> When Maitreya says: ?I am your shield?, He means it
> absolutely concretely.
Yeah ?
lol
> The Masters and, above all, Maitreya, are our
> shield ? shielding us from suffering, from too great an evil in the
> world which would submerge humanity. He is here to present to us an
> image of perfection to which we can aspire.
Idolatrous idiot. You ever read the Torah ? Why is idolatry wrong ?
Because it makes people brainless slaves for cults like you are
trying to make up. Yeah i know, you all ready know right? i'm talking
to your would be sheep, the meat on your table.
> Maitreya has given to the world all the signs ?
"all" signs ? No, not all religions are good and certainly in the
west all movements are wrong / dumb.
> the milk miracle
> [1995],
Never heard of that, sounds like a fraud.
> statues which move and open their eyes,
Never heard of that, sounds like hallicunations.
> paintings which weep
> real tears ?
For a bunch of idolators ?
> as signs that something tremendous is happening.
That's probably true, though, one way or the other. Which is why
you are here trying to take advantage of it, and maybe that's the
goal of most of these religions.
It is a trick you know, to predict great changes and some kind of
'savior.' It is a trick because changes often occur one way or
the other, then with this 'savior' story, you can adapt your cult
to it and claim 'this is what we predicted!' Then the cult can
go on and the sheep can continue to be slaughtered for meat.
Right ?
> There
> are thousands of miracles all over the world so that Time magazine
> devoted an eight-page spread to it [in April 1995]:
Sounds like they want the sheep to look the other way while the
money is looted.
> ?Something
> extraordinary is happening in the world,? it said. That something is
> the Reappearance of the Christ and the Masters of Wisdom in the world
> as our Elder Brothers.
There is no such thing as 'masters of wisdom' as far as i know.
Since jesus was a fraud, what do you mean with 'reappearance' ?
That the elder brothers might come along or not, you have picked
that up from some NDN religions maybe ? And then you garbled that
up until you had created your discusting little cult story ?
If jesus comes back then doesn't that mean the rule of the anti-christ ?
Considdering that jesus was the anti-christ ?
Is there even such a thing as an anti-christ, considdering that the
whole jesus religion is a fraud ? Or is it just more men, some criminal,
some dumb, some good and some bored.
> Very soon now Maitreya will appear on television in this country
> [USA]
Considdering that your matreya would be a very very bad "leader,"
and you have your obama dude, maybe that's your 2nd coming of the
anti-christ and your matreya. You just don't want to see it that
way because there is no money for you in it, right ?
> and later in Japan and then around the world and speak very simply so
> that everyone can understand Him and when Maitreya talks you know it
> is true.
I have no plans to go to japan, sorry wrong again.
> He speaks directly from the heart to the heart and that
> energy which comes from being the embodiment of Love awakens that
> love
> in your heart and you believe what He says because you know it is
> true.
Seriously ? News to me.
lol
> It is the only truth there is. It has to be true. You feel it
> deeply within you. There?s no gainsaying that simple message of
> trust,
> of hope, of sharing, of justice and of peace as a result.
Empty words, where's the meat ?
> When enough people are responding to Maitreya in this way He will be
> asked to come on television and speak to the whole world ?
That's a big if for your cult puppet isn't it.
You fucked up, fortunately, big time when you said 'jesus' was going
to be announced by this 'matraya' after 3 months, because that for
sure is not what i'm going to do. And then your whole story falls
as more nonsense. But i'm glad I had the opportunity to say your
story is completely wrong although there might be burried maybe a
grain of truth in a large and growing hay stack of nonsense.
> now known
> to many as the Christ. Many will see Him and think: ?I?m sure that is
> the man Creme has been talking about.? The television networks will
> be
> linked together for this event and ?All eyes will see him? as it says
This all sounds extremely scary to be honest. Whatever happens please
nobody ever don't link up all the TV stations like that, it is far
too Orwellian nightmarish.
And you fuckwit, you are fanning this blaze, why ? Oh yeah forgot,
there's money to be made.
> in the Bible. You will see His face ? you will feel that energy ? you
> will say: ?Only the Christ could fill my heart with that love?.
> Maitreya is omniscient and omnipresent and one day all adult people
Seriously ? I don't even know the names of my neighbors, how's that
for omniscient & omnipresent.
> in
> the world will hear His voice inwardly.
There may be forces capable of that why not what do we know, but
I can't and don't and even if I could i wouldn't. It would bee
too scary. But I can't, see ?
> He will, for 25 minutes or
> so,
> create this liaison, this telepathic rapport, between Him and us, and
> you will know that what you are hearing is the truth.
You seem to be garbling something from a Torah prophet, who said
that the creator would send something to all people, which is
of course something that the jesusfreaks completely freaked out
about because jesus freaks and such only want to talk about what
doesn't matter, like idols and weird stuff. What they don't want
to talk about is: state laws, who owns the soil, who own corporations,
and so on -- you know, reality ?
There is no cash in truth for you ?
> One of the Masters has said: ?People everywhere will become like
> little children?, full of trust, full of love, full of goodness, full
> of hope, full of aspiration with all that they have lost since
> growing
> up, before they become hardened, become commercialized, made rigid,
> fearful, untrusting ? only half a man or half a woman. But as
> children
> they will feel this is true.
What's better then children to delude for the cult.
"Don't worry about it, just look at us for all your needs and advice,
and we will give you something to do."
[...]
--
http://www.socialism.nl <<--- SCIENCE ! Do your goddamn homework you
fool, or face the deadly concequences.
Tom
> Please remove alt.consciousness.mysticism from this thread. It is of no
> interest to that newsgroup.
Then I presume you alt.consciousness.mystic subscribers are all do-it-
yourself mystics and are uniformly uninterested in anyone else's
enlightenment.
Not that I think Ben is particularly enlightened. However, he claims
to be. So I would suppose those interested in mystical states of
consciousness would at least want to examine his claims and discuss
whether or not they were worthy of further attention.
But you say you're not. So I wonder what it is that you consider too
important to be sullied by this trivia.
Meltdarok
> There is no such thing as a mystical state of consciousness. That is
> foreign to the very concept of mysticism. If you were a mystic you would
> know why.
The problem is, was, and ever shall be: Labels.
--
meltdarok
The careless mind makes problems where
there actually aren't any.
Then it struggles to change the world,
and not the mind itself.
Tom
> There is no such thing as a mystical state of consciousness. That is
> foreign to the very concept of mysticism. If you were a mystic you would
> know why.
Sounds like you've got a pretty tight little dogma going. I wonder
what you mean by "the concept of mysticism". I wonder if it would
more accurately be *your* concept of mysticism.
Tom
> It certainly doesn't include conspiracy theories.
It probably doesn't include a pickle either. But listing a thing or
two that "the concept of mysticism" is not doesn't tell anyone what
you think it is.
> I think you would be
> heard put to find any place for that type of junk within the concept of
> mysticism.
Again, until I know what you mean by "the concept of mysticism", I
would be hard put to find anything in it at all.
Tom
> At the base of all true mysticism is the notion that a person can have
> direct conscious contact with the source of all that is - what that is
> called god, bramam, GAOTU, the Creator, etc. etc.
Ah, so your beliefs are "true" mysticism, whereas mystical ideas that
do not agree with your dogma are "false mysticism".
So I was right. What you mean by "the concept of mysticism" is "my
personal concept of mysticism".
Mysticism does not have to assume the existence of any source or posit
that one may contact it. For example, in the Tao Teh Ching, Lao Tsu
writes:
"The Tao is like an empty container:
it can never be emptied and can never be filled.
Infinitely deep, it is the source of all things.
It dulls the sharp, unties the knotted,
shades the lighted, and unites all of creation with dust.
It is hidden but always present.
I don't know who gave birth to it.
It is older than the concept of God."
He does not know where it came from. He does not know it's source.
It's older than any God. So, clearly, unless you are arguing that
Taoism is not mysticism, your claim that all mysticism says that
people can make direct contact with the source of all things, which
you have identified as somebody's God, is false.
> Notice I did not use the
> word "belief". There is no "belief" in mysticism and there is no faith.
It's extremely common for people to think of their own beliefs as
"fact" and every different belief as "belief".
> Both of those are only devices used by those who have never had an actual
> experience. Notice also that I did use the word "can". Not everyone
> achieves direct conscious contact and it is not a requirement at any time.
> But everyone, and I do mean everyone, including your enemies and those you
> are prejudiced against, will always have at least unconscious contact
> because the soul of every person is perfect since it emanates from the
> source of all that is. We cannot not have some form of contact. But it has
> nothing to do with wild spaceman ideas, Area 51, Area 58, Area 59, Alice
> Springs, HAARP, cattle mutiliations, crop circles, grassy knolls, or who
> Hugh Hefner happens to be banging this week.
The notion that some world teacher will arise with the help of his
space buddies to teach us all how to contact the source of all things
is part of those "wild spaceman ideas". So, if they are also offering
some sort of path to contact with the All-Source, they meet your
definition of "true mysticism". It's just their methods that you
don't like.
> If you don't understand what this all means, then I cannot teach you.
I think you've done a fair job of teaching us what you believe. I
think I'm pretty clear on that. However, you have not yet convinced
me that your beliefs are correct.
rh777
or the other planets, but the spaceships, the UFOs, have been seen by
thousands of people for years, mainly from Mars and Venus, which are
the nearest planets to us. The governments of the world for over 60
years have denied the existence of UFOs, which indeed in growing
numbers are active in our skies. The governments have hoodwinked the
public for their own reasons, probably mixed. They have sought to deny
the existence of UFOs, flying saucers, whereas people who have seen
them know that they are always present in our skies. The curious thing
is that while denying the existence of UFOs they have sought to
denigrate occupants of these ‘non-existent’ craft as malicious,
threatening the wellbeing of humanity.
What is the motive for this curious non-exposure of a tremendous
event? The governments would say they want to avoid panic but beneath
that is the unacknowledged fear of loss of control and power, which a
welcoming approach to the Space Brothers would ensure. They know that
if humanity knew that the spacecraft in our skies were not ‘aliens’
but were here to aid and alleviate the suffering of humanity on this
planet, and with their obviously far more advanced technology, people
would demand that they are openly welcomed and their superior teaching
made available to them.
Earth scientists deny the existence of any form of life on Mars and
Venus and the other planets of the system. This is the result of their
inadequate understanding of the true range of matter. These scientists
acknowledge three planes – solid, liquid and gaseous physical – above
which, they have not the technology to measure. Therefore they believe
‘more’ does not exist, yet the Masters and all students of esotericism
know that there are four further states of matter above gas, the
etheric planes of matter. It is on the etheric planes that can be
found ‘life’ on our sister planets, from Mars, on the lowest etheric
level, up to extraordinarily advanced planets like Vulcan, Venus,
Jupiter, Saturn, and planets like Mercury, Uranus and Neptune. Venus,
the alter ego of Earth, is in the last of its seven ‘rounds’ or
incarnations (equivalent to our incarnational experiences), while
Vulcan is completely perfected.
Spacecraft from these planets create the crop circles of which the
largest number are seen in Wiltshire, the southwest of England,
because Maitreya is in London. These crop circles are the ‘calling
cards’ of the people who man the UFOs, to acknowledge
ore asphyxiated. So we owe the Space Brothers a tremendous debt.
Maitreya when asked will talk about the Space Brothers. They are our
brothers and sisters of our own planetary system. We work together,
the Hierarchy of all the planets work together in a kind of
interplanetary parliament.
They are also engaged in a tremendous work of replicating on the
surface of our planet the grid of our magnetic field. This is
preparing the way for the ‘science of light’ which is the technology
of the future. This will give us total, unlimited, safe power for all
our needs. It is obvious, therefore, that far from being ‘alien’,
malicious monsters to be feared, as they have often been presented to
the public, the Space Brothers are on a spiritual mission to help in
every way possible within the Laws of Karma to maintain the stability
and future health of Planet Earth.
Excerpted from Questions and Answers in the Nov 2009 issue of Share
International
http://share-international.org/magazine/old_issues/2009/2009-11.htm#q-n-a
knowbuddee
Watch for more sitings & reports like this in the coming weeks and
months:
Examiner report/article: UFO-hovering-over-Oklahoma-skies-baffles-
astronomy-club
On the evening of 10-17-09 myself and four other club members were at
our astronomy clubs’ observatory (35.8308 96.14518) for a clear night
of observing. With many years of experience in observing under our
belts we were needless to say quite qualified to identify most
anything that we would see. Between approximately 6:40 – 7:00 P.M. one
of the members noticed something off in the west and queried as to
what it may happen to be.
First and foremost it was bright, more or less as bright as Jupiter,
yet setting about ten to twelve degrees above the horizon, due west.
At our first sighting most of us thought that it was nothing more than
an airliner reflecting sunlight from the setting sun but that
determination was tossed aside shortly there after. If it had been
what we first thought it was it would’ve lost it’s size and brightness
fairly quick as it shifted positions in relation to the sun while in
flight.
But, it continued to maintain its position, did not move in any
direction - vertically, horizontally. If by some chance it were a
celestial body it would follow a gradual celestial track that all of
us would have noticed in a few minutes. Again, it didn’t move,
remained in one position, which eliminated the possibility of it being
a celestial body that none of us were unlikely familiar with. That
alone became puzzling since the obvious – Venus, Mercury – are now
tracking in the morning eastern sky, not the evening western sky.
With that we continued to watch it as one of the guys used his 10x50
binoculars to get a better view. What was seen initially brought to
mind that it may perhaps be a high altitude research balloon but the
more we watched it and as it maintained its position that thought was
tossed quickly also. From the beginning it remained in one position,
never moved. Balloons, of any type, will not remain in one specific
position be they weather balloons, high altitude research balloons or
otherwise.
But as we watched it more closely it was very surprising as to the
manner in which it morphed into various shapes and sizes. Its
brightness would vary some but that was easily seen as being caused by
the low-lying clouds on the horizon. As we commonly call it – it was
“sitting in the soup”. When they would move in front of it the objects
brightness would dim some. Otherwise it would maintain its brightness.
That was easily seen via binocular observations.
The longer we watched it the more curious we all became and with that
growing curiosity we quickly set two telescopes onto it. Two different
sized telescopes were used, one, Celestron 11” Schimdt-Cassegrain
telescope and a smaller Orion 4.5” dobsonian telescope. Between the
two we could pull it in for a much closer look in a very inquisitive
effort to determine just what it actually was. Charts and web sites
were checked also to make sure we weren’t simply forgetting perhaps
one event that may explain what we were now seeing. Nothing could be
found.
The Celestron was using a 40mm eyepiece for a much wider field of view
whereas the smaller Orion had a 15mm eyepiece to pull it in much
closer. Through the Orion one could easily see what appeared right off
as a bell shape. The same was viewed in the other also.
But as mentioned before it morphed into what was clearly seen and
could be interpreted as the same basic outline of the Shuttle that
anyone would see as it flies over. Again, the same basic shape as to
what you would see looking up at the bottom of it. That distinctive
shape was easily recognized. At the rear of it you could see what
looked like bluish green waves that would both come and go from the
main rear line of the object. Nowhere else was this color and wave
seen, just at the rear.
The objects color was a combination of the just mentioned bluish green
at the rear to a lighter orange yellow up through the main body and
then into red orange, much more intense, than any of the other colors
at the top or perhaps, from appearance at that time, leading edge.
None of us had ever seen a color distribution of this sort before.
Especially on either the Shuttle or any other normal day-to-day
satellites. From our position/location it appeared to be hovering over
either Bristow, Ok or possibly even Oklahoma City.
There was no attempt by any of us then to determine its specific
distance or altitude from us. The same applies to its actual size.
Visually, it appeared very similar to the size of Jupiter. Other than
that comparison we honestly don’t know either its distance or specific
altitude. It remained in the same position for approximately 40
minutes and never moved. Close to 8 P.M. we started to notice what
appeared to be a ring of lights that was rotating around the bottom
portion. The lights were seen in the same location that the bluish
green colored waves were at. Several of us noticed this while looking
at it through the telescopes.
Needless to say this was surprising to us all. This carried on for one
to two minutes and then suddenly the object started to move. The
movement was slow at the beginning but increased very rapidly. I had
my eye glued to the 40mm eyepiece when this began and once it started
I could not move. Within two seconds it had totally disappeared from
open visual sight but I still had a lock on it in the eyepiece. Fast,
very fast it moved from dead center in the eyepiece field of view
upwards and at the same time was getting smaller and smaller as it
flew away. Two or three seconds later it was totally gone from view in
either of the telescopes.
The speed that it moved was without question way beyond anything that
we have knowledge of or is publicly known to be in our military. At
the rate it flew away would make a SR-71 Blackbird look very old and
slow. Could it have possibly been a new experimental aircraft?
Possibly yes but if so what was something such as that doing in
Oklahoma? Most generally new experimental, top-secret aircraft of that
type are being tested at either Edwards AFB or Area 51, not Oklahoma.
In a nutshell, we will never know.
It was unidentifiable, it was in the air and flew away and it most
certainly was an object of some unknown kind/type. From this alone it
could be justifiably categorized as a UFO.
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See recent pictures of UFOS
http://tinyurl.com/ufo-pictures
The SI 'star' sign video at the youtube video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuuMOvy1KNE
The youtube page where Benjamin Creme talks about the 'star' sign:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JihYJhfAs4
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Tom
> Watch for more sitings
Web sitings, at least.
> & reports like this in the coming weeks and
> months:
I am confident that you will continue to post "reports like this" over
and over in the coming weeks and months, just like any number of
evangelical kooks have.
> With many years of experience in observing under our
> belts we were needless to say quite qualified to identify most
> anything that we would see.
I bet I know what you will see while observing under your belts.
knowbuddee
> On Sep 30, 1:06 pm, knowbuddee <knowbud...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > You are hereby encouraged to learn about the space brothers. The more
> > of us who know about them, the better.
>
> > The great cover-up concerning their existence (and benevolent nature)
> > will be swept out of our way sooner than you think, and for the first
> > time ever, our civilization will flourish like never before.
>
> Then there's really no need to go learn about them from obscure
> sources, is there? This will all be cleared up shortly. All we have
> to do is wait.
>
Good question - thank you for asking. Sorry for the delayed response!
The more you know about them the less likely it is that you'll be
taken by suprise. It is important for some people to know what's going
on - so that they can explain it to others.
Every advancement in our so called civilization has involved people
cooperating with others. The more you find out about the elder
brothes and their God like ways, the more you'll (eventually at least)
want to be like Them. You'll also see that any opportunity to co-
operate with Them is a privilege, a treasure of sorts - that only
blind fools would cast aside. Many people like to assume that they're
going to be served, that every thing will be brought to them on a
platter and they like that - it's understandable.
There are many opportunities for us to help, but while the children
play, adults work. If more people would help, the sooner this work
will be over and the sooner our world will become civilized. There
are esoteric laws that require the cooperation of little people like
me and you. It's entirely voluntary so, don't the wrong impression -
i'm not saying you or anyone should do anything that they don't want
to do. Stay on the sofa for years, if that pleases you.
As you may know, we are all one. Every atom in the cosmos is
connected. Today, thanks to our complacency and the corrupt nature of
many powerful/dominate people, an estimated 25,000 people die every
day of hunger while tons of food rots, about 20,000 of them are
children under 14 yrs of age. A 20+ billion dollar a year sex slave
industry goes on with no significant objections from the world. All
the needless suffering represented by those two situations, plus all
the other sources of needless misery combined has a tremendous adverse
impact on all of us, despite the fact that most people can't presently
see the connection.
So the choice is yours. The more you know and understand, the more
likely are you to study this material and ask yourself how you might
help.
Namaskar
KB
"Work for this The return to the everyday world of Maitreya, the World
Teacher for the New Age, and the Masters of Wisdom – the Elder
Brothers of humanity – is an ongoing process for which humanity has
been prepared since 1875 by the Ageless Wisdom teachings. In various
stages, these teachings have been released in many publications,
notably those of H.P. Blavatsky, Alice A. Bailey, the Agni Yoga
series, and most recently the books by Benjamin Creme."
http://www.biblioteca-ga.info/50
>
> > It is very important that this information be spread far and wide.
>
> > Please share this (in whole or any part) with others.
>
> Why bother? The cover-up will be swept away sooner than we think
> anyway. You *do* trust the space brothers, don't you?.
>
Master Bait
I overheard a politician once say, 'If you aren't corporate, you're little
people!'
Tom
> On Sep 30, 4:26 pm, Tom <danto...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > On Sep 30, 1:06 pm, knowbuddee <knowbud...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > The great cover-up concerning their existence (and benevolent nature)
> > > will be swept out of our way sooner than you think, and for the first
> > > time ever, our civilization will flourish like never before.
>
> > Then there's really no need to go learn about them from obscure
> > sources, is there? This will all be cleared up shortly. All we have
> > to do is wait.
>
> Good question - thank you for asking. Sorry for the delayed response!
>
> The more you know about them the less likely it is that you'll be
> taken by suprise.
So what? What difference is it going to make if I'm surprised or
not? Will they only be saving the unsurprised people?
kb
They won't be "saving" anyone. We have to save ourselves. They can't
do for us what we must do for ourselves, per their laws. That would
create a race of spoiled brats who would not move forward.
In a short time, people will look back at this time and the past few
decades and wonder how people could have been so blind, so lazy, and
hard hearted.
The horrors seem most prevalent in the USA -where materialism is king.
Our minds are filled with lies, probably more than anywhere else on
earth and we are trained to be hardworking, obedient, unquestioning,
flag waving consumers, while our goliath like military works all over
the world for the benefit of our corporations, not the people.
Many people in other nations see the USA as something like a teenage
bully on steroids.
That too will pass - much sooner than most people think possible. In
the next few months or years, all of humanity will see the results of
a project that many people have been working on for about 135 years.
These are the darkest days, and the darkest hour is right before the
dawn.
"The return to the everyday world of Maitreya, the World Teacher for
the New Age, and the Masters of Wisdom – the Elder Brothers of
humanity – is an ongoing process for which humanity has been prepared
since 1875 by the Ageless Wisdom teachings. In various stages, these
teachings have been released in many publications, notably those of
H.P. Blavatsky, Alice A. Bailey, the Agni Yoga series, and most
recently the books by Benjamin Creme.
This online catalogue and library presents the evidence of the Great
Approach, as the Masters call Their return, by combining the
historical and bibliographical details for these and other
publications...
..........................
It's time for us to say goodbye forever to unbridled greed and all the
horrors created by that political corruption, war, poverty, hunger,
merciless exploitation of the masses, etc.
Master Bait
> On Nov 23, 4:50 pm, Tom <danto...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> On Nov 23, 1:25 pm, knowbuddee <knowbud...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> > The more you know about them the less likely it is that you'll be
>> > taken by suprise.
>>
>> So what? What difference is it going to make if I'm surprised or
>> not? Will they only be saving the unsurprised people?
>
> They won't be "saving" anyone. We have to save ourselves. They can't
> do for us what we must do for ourselves, per their laws. That would
> create a race of spoiled brats who would not move forward.
Isn't that what has happened to you?
Tom
> On Nov 23, 4:50 pm, Tom <danto...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > On Nov 23, 1:25 pm, knowbuddee <knowbud...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > The more you know about them the less likely it is that you'll be
> > > taken by suprise.
>
> > So what? What difference is it going to make if I'm surprised or
> > not? Will they only be saving the unsurprised people?
>
> They won't be "saving" anyone. We have to save ourselves. They can't
> do for us what we must do for ourselves, per their laws. That would
> create a race of spoiled brats who would not move forward.
So they're going to show themselves to us and then do nothing? Is
that their plan?
> The horrors seem most prevalent in the USA -where materialism is king.
I take it you haven't travelled very widely outside the US then.
Horror abounds everywhere, boy.
Max
> So they're going to show themselves to us and then do nothing? Is
> that their plan?
>
They'll serve as advisors - helping us become civilized and helping
those of us who so desire, to follow in their footsteps. Most of the
public work will be done by our own hierarchy which is led by
Maitreya, the World Teacher. He won't come across as a religious
figure, but rather as a world teacher.
Understandably, most people won't believe this until they have had
some experiences that they can't ignore. They won't have to wait much
longer - probably 3 years max, maybe just a few more weeks or months.
UFO/ET disclosure is imminent. All of the planets in our solar system
are populated and overseen by hierarchies. The Earth has an esoteric
hierarchy (led by the World Teacher) which oversees our evolution from
behind the scenes.
For about 130 years people have been preparing for the emergence onto
the world stage of the World Teacher.
That is expected to happen within the next couple of years. He will
inspire mankind to see itself as one huge family and to rebuild the
world so that it's a great place for everyone. He will tell us about
the space brothers and the great coverup will end.
To make a long story short, the planets are all essentially schools,
though most of the pupils on Earth don't know anything about it. We
are not a very evolved group at this point. Why don't we see the
civilizations on other planets, or even our own hierarchy? The
answer
is that some people can see on the other planes, but they keep that
skill under their hats. Most of us are relatively primitive and only
conscious of events on the physical plane.
"The return to the everyday world of Maitreya, [the Christ,] the
World Teacher for the New Age, and the Masters of Wisdom – the Elder
Brothers of humanity – is an ongoing process for which humanity has
been prepared since 1875 by the Ageless Wisdom teachings. In various
stages, these teachings have been released in many publications,
notably those of H.P. Blavatsky, Alice A. Bailey, the Agni Yoga
series, and most recently the books by Benjamin Creme..."
Details: http://www.biblioteca-ga.info
also see: http://www.share-international.org
Tom
> On Dec 1, 12:46 am, Tom <danto...@comcast.net> wrote:\
>
> > So they're going to show themselves to us and then do nothing? Is
> > that their plan?
>
> They'll serve as advisors - helping us become civilized and helping
> those of us who so desire, to follow in their footsteps.
If one is lost in the woods and someone comes along with advice that
successfully leads to the way out of the woods, that someone is indeed
a savior. Even if that savior doesn't actually carry you out of the
woods.
What you apparently envision seems to be that the Space Brothers are
going to endorse a particular savior, namely Benny the Creme. It
seems Benny can't generate enough credibility to do the job without
extraterrestrial endorsements, so he insists they're coming any day
now. To which I respond: Until they actually show up to verify it,
claiming the endorsement of Venusian Spacemen is not a very convincing
argument.
So, since you claim this wondrous revelation of the Space Brothers
will be within three years and a few months*, perhaps you should stop
trying to count your chickens before they hatch and come back then,
when you actually have something to show us.
* How many months is "a few", BTW? Jesus supposedly said he'd be
coming back "in a little while" and it's been about 2000 years so far,
which to my mind, is quite a bit more than a "little while".
Bruce Morgen
Is this a coincidence?
Perhaps not:
<http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jRHMTH8mfwn0vNNlF3nUOYz9W4NgD9CCNR3G4>
Max
> On Dec 4, 8:53 am, Max <maxhem...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > On Dec 1, 12:46 am, Tom <danto...@comcast.net> wrote:\
>
> > > So they're going to show themselves to us and then do nothing? Is
> > > that their plan?
>
> > They'll serve as advisors - helping us become civilized and helping
> > those of us who so desire, to follow in their footsteps.
>
> If one is lost in the woods and someone comes along with advice that
> successfully leads to the way out of the woods, that someone is indeed
> a savior. Even if that savior doesn't actually carry you out of the
> woods.
>
> What you apparently envision seems to be that the Space Brothers are
> going to endorse a particular savior, namely Benny the Creme. It
Your assumption there is incorrect. They won't endorse anyone.
> seems Benny can't generate enough credibility to do the job without
> extraterrestrial endorsements, so he insists they're coming any day
> now. To which I respond: Until they actually show up to verify it,
> claiming the endorsement of Venusian Spacemen is not a very convincing
> argument.
Mr. Creme doesn't have an "argument", nor do any of those who know
about this. Believe it or not. It's fine if you don't. Some are happy
to hear about this, even though they don't necessarily believe it. We
try to spread the word because it is required.
>
> So, since you claim this wondrous revelation of the Space Brothers
> will be within three years and a few months*, perhaps you should stop
> trying to count your chickens before they hatch and come back then,
> when you actually have something to show us.
>
I'm not trying to count any chickens. I know what I know and I know
that most people don't know that they don't know. I've seen far too
much to disregard Mr. Creme, and far too many who haven't seen a damn
thing who loudly proclaim that his information is non-sense.
The blind lead the blind and the light shines in the darkness and the
darkness comprehends it not. You can lead a horse to water but you
can't make him drink.
>
> * How many months is "a few", BTW? Jesus supposedly said he'd be
> coming back "in a little while" and it's been about 2000 years so far,
> which to my mind, is quite a bit more than a "little while".
His words have been translated and misinterpreted many times. There
is no time. There are only endless cycles of activities followed by
cycles of inactivity.
To any more questions that you might have, in response let me parrot
the truism that says: 'the mind is the destroyer of the real' in
advance.
I suggest that you just forget all about this for now. It appears that
your mind is closed, so i write this more for whoever with an open
mind might read this than for you.
/M
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"The return to the everyday world of Maitreya, the World Teacher for
the New Age, and the Masters of Wisdom – the Elder Brothers of
humanity – is an ongoing process for which humanity has been prepared
since 1875 by the Ageless Wisdom teachings. In various stages, these
teachings have been released in many publications, notably those of
H.P. Blavatsky, Alice A. Bailey, the Agni Yoga series, and most
recently the books by Benjamin Creme.
This online catalogue and library presents the evidence of the
Great Approach, as the Masters call Their return, by combining the
historical and bibliographical details for these and other
publications with information from Benjamin Creme’s writings and
other relevant sources.
In doing so it shows the continuity and consistency in the
teachings of the Masters of Wisdom, as given over the past 130-odd
years, presenting the wide variety of teachings as they cater to
students of different levels, backgrounds and dispositions..."
Master Bait
> On Dec 4, 5:22 pm, Tom <danto...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> On Dec 4, 8:53 am, Max <maxhem...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On Dec 1, 12:46 am, Tom <danto...@comcast.net> wrote:\
>>
>> > > So they're going to show themselves to us and then do nothing? Is
>> > > that their plan?
>>
>> > They'll serve as advisors - helping us become civilized and helping
>> > those of us who so desire, to follow in their footsteps.
>>
>> If one is lost in the woods and someone comes along with advice that
>> successfully leads to the way out of the woods, that someone is indeed
>> a savior. Even if that savior doesn't actually carry you out of the
>> woods.
>>
>> What you apparently envision seems to be that the Space Brothers are
>> going to endorse a particular savior, namely Benny the Creme. It
>
> Your assumption there is incorrect. They won't endorse anyone.
>
>> seems Benny can't generate enough credibility to do the job without
>> extraterrestrial endorsements, so he insists they're coming any day
>> now. To which I respond: Until they actually show up to verify it,
>> claiming the endorsement of Venusian Spacemen is not a very convincing
>> argument.
>
>
> Mr. Creme doesn't have an "argument", nor do any of those who know
> about this. Believe it or not. It's fine if you don't. Some are happy
> to hear about this, even though they don't necessarily believe it. We
> try to spread the word because it is required.
Why not go door to door with little pamphlets? You could possibly find 'some'
who are happy to hear the 'news'. . .
>
>
>>
>> So, since you claim this wondrous revelation of the Space Brothers
>> will be within three years and a few months*, perhaps you should stop
>> trying to count your chickens before they hatch and come back then,
>> when you actually have something to show us.
>>
>
> I'm not trying to count any chickens. I know what I know and I know
> that most people don't know that they don't know. I've seen far too
> much to disregard Mr. Creme, and far too many who haven't seen a damn
> thing who loudly proclaim that his information is non-sense.
That's Creme's problem -- nobody has seen a gamn thing in spite of Creme's
constant blathering about the future. Tomorrow never comes to the gullible.
>
> The blind lead the blind and the light shines in the darkness and the
> darkness comprehends it not.
You think your cult is 'in the light', but you're in the darkness of wishful
thinking.
> You can lead a horse to water but you
> can't make him drink.
>
>
>
>>
>> * How many months is "a few", BTW? Jesus supposedly said he'd be
>> coming back "in a little while" and it's been about 2000 years so far,
>> which to my mind, is quite a bit more than a "little while".
>
> His words have been translated and misinterpreted many times.
Only Creme has the correct translation.
Tom
> On Dec 4, 5:22 pm, Tom <danto...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > What you apparently envision seems to be that the Space Brothers are
> > going to endorse a particular savior, namely Benny the Creme. It
>
> Your assumption there is incorrect. They won't endorse anyone.
That's good, because Creme's an idiot.
> I'm not trying to count any chickens. I know what I know
Actually, you don't. You know nothing at all. You simply believe
what you believe.
> > * How many months is "a few", BTW? Jesus supposedly said he'd be
> > coming back "in a little while" and it's been about 2000 years so far,
> > which to my mind, is quite a bit more than a "little while".
>
> His words have been translated and misinterpreted many times. There
> is no time.
Then the "three years and a few months" you claimed is just
bullshit.
> I suggest that you just forget all about this for now.
Just what I've been recommending to you. Do you take your own
advice? I bet not.
kb
to keep an open mind about it.
With each passing day we get a little bit closer to the most
extraordinary day in the history of our planet. Naturally most people
won't believe this story until they have had some significant
experiences that let them know. They won't have to wait much longer.
In the coming decades we will build a shining civilization, far
lovelier than most people can imagine to be possible. Cooperation,
peace, sharing, justice, brotherhood and love will become the norm.
"Now in those days, brethren, there shall arise in the world an
Exalted One by name Maitreya (the Kindly One) an Arhat, a Fully
Enlightened One, endowed with wisdom and righteousness, a Happy One, a
World-knower, the Peerless Charioteer of men to be tamed, a teacher of
the devas [angels] and mankind, an Exalted One, a Buddha like myself.
He of His own abnormal powers shall realize and make known the world,
and the worlds of the devas, with their Maras, their Brahmas, the host
of recluses and brahmins, of devas and mankind alike, even as I do
now. He shall proclaim the norm, lovely in its beginning, lovely in
its middle, and lovely in the end thereof. He shall make known the
wholly perfect life of righteousness in all its purity, both in the
spirit and in the letter of it, even as I do now. He shall lead an
Order of Brethren numbering many thousands, even as I do now lead an
order of Brethren numbering many hundreds."
Gautama Buddha in Digha Nikaya (speaking about Maitreya)
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"Maitreya is awaiting the best timing to go public... when the
crumbling economic system is bringing the West to its knees... We
think... we can go on in the old ways... more competition, more
greed... It is not so any longer; it does not work. If two-thirds of
the world’s population are living in poverty then the economic system
does not work. If we think that they will go on without asking that
it work for them, then we are sorely out of step with reality.
Maitreya will make that clear." Benjamin Creme
======
When you see Me you will know that My voice is yours, for I speak for
all men and women everywhere. I speak the thoughts which blossom in
hearts and minds of pure Love. I speak of the needs of all, for
Sharing and Justice. I show men that the path to Justice is simple,
the way forward calls all men. I speak of God’s Truth, of the Light
within mankind, of the need for trust, the Love of brother for
brother. Of all of this I speak. Soon men will know...
(Maitreya, from Message No.108)
http://www.share-international.org
kb
really means.
Check out these pictures of the light show in Norway on Dec 9:
http://tinyurl.com/Norwegian-UFO
=======================
The following is the text of a Share International press release sent
out today regarding the above.
The enormous, spiral light with its glowing centre, seen over Norway
on December 9, 2009, has excited and baffled thousands of Norwegians,
including astronomical experts. What does it mean? On December 12,
2008, Share International Foundation announced that a large, bright
star-like object would soon be seen in the sky. It is a sign heralding
the imminent appearance of Maitreya, the World Teacher, on his first
television interview, which will take place in the USA.
The ‘star’ is really one of four enormous spacecraft placed around the
world. Since December 2008 numerous sightings of the ‘star’ have been
reported on YouTube and television news programs. Share International
magazine has received hundreds of photographs showing the ‘star’ in a
variety of stunning colors and shapes.
The huge spiral manifestation over Norway is an extension of the work
of these spacecraft and is irrefutable evidence of their reality. Our
information is that further such manifestations are planned for the
near future.
For more information:
Star sign - latest update 11 December 2009
http://www.share-international.org/maitreya/Ma_starsign.htm
New Youtube Video about the 'star'
posted December 04, 2009 (6:21)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHsgr_0texI
Article with pictures & videos of the Spiral light over Norway
http://tinyurl.com/Norwegian-UFO
That's the text from a SI new release that was sent out this morning
-- i'm very happy to see that they are saying "further such
manifestations are planned for the near future".
Interesting to see the minions of the ruling elite rush to try to
cover this up and write it off as a "failed missile test"...
Very soon everyone will know... that the space brothers are humans
like us, only thousands of years more evolved than we are. They have
solved many of the same problems that confront us now, thousands of
years ago. They will help us to the extent that we let them. They are
like Gods compared to us. Unconditional love and harmlessness are two
characteristics that both Benjamin Creme and George Adamski have used
to describe them.
The truth is going to set mankind free - free from the horrors created
by corrupt leadership -
free from war, poverty, hunger, environmental degradation,
unemployment, etc...
Please spread this information around to all the people that you can.
The corporate news media has not
been very cooperative (to put it mildly).
Tom
> It seems to be about time for us all to learn what the word "awesome"
> really means.
>
> Check out these pictures of the light show in Norway on Dec 9:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/Norwegian-UFO
>
> =======================
>
> The following is the text of a Share International press release sent
> out today regarding the above.
>
> The enormous, spiral light with its glowing centre, seen over Norway
> on December 9, 2009, has excited and baffled thousands of Norwegians,
> including astronomical experts. What does it mean? On December 12,
> 2008, Share International Foundation announced that a large, bright
> star-like object would soon be seen in the sky. It is a sign heralding
> the imminent appearance of Maitreya, the World Teacher, on his first
> television interview, which will take place in the USA.
>
> The ‘star’ is really one of four enormous spacecraft placed around the
> world. Since December 2008 numerous sightings of the ‘star’ have been
> reported on YouTube and television news programs. Share International
> magazine has received hundreds of photographs showing the ‘star’ in a
> variety of stunning colors and shapes.
>
> The huge spiral manifestation over Norway is an extension of the work
> of these spacecraft and is irrefutable evidence of their reality.
Well, just because you ignore the refutation of your claim does not
mean it's unrefuted.
"Riddle of the Arctic roll solved as Russia admits 'one of our
missiles misfired'"
Bruce Morgen
It was a failed missile test
from a Russian submarine,
you absurdly credulous twit.
rh777
Yes folks - it was just another failed missile test - it was just a
failed missile test -repeat after me "that was a failed missile
test". There's nothing to see there. That's what failed missile tests
look like. So Just keep moving. There's nothing to see. You can always
count on corporate news to give you the information you need. Go
shopping at the mall. Go to Disneyland or Go on a Cruise! We'll tell
you if anything important happens. Now let's talk about Tiger's
personal problems.
---
If there are any non-zombies reading this...
Watch for more major UFO sitings too awesome to be covered up by the
corporate media.
Be sure to see the pictures of what they have the audacity to try to
call a failed missile test. Corporate news has been downplaying it.
The pictures that CNN had were extremely lame. The New York times
piece had NO pictures. Who has ever seen a failed missile test that
looks anything like that?!! Corporate news = shameless liars.
Shameless pimps for wars, big business, exploiters and enemies of the
people.
and when you want to face the truth that underlies the happenings of
the times visit this web site:
http://www.Share-International.org
and Read All about it.
Peace On Earth -- GoodWill to ALL!
On Dec 11, 2:10 pm, Bruce Morgen <edi...@juno.com> wrote:
Master Bait
> Yes right sure you mindless zombie!
>
> Yes folks - it was just another failed missile test - it was just a
> failed missile test -repeat after me "that was a failed missile
> test". There's nothing to see there. That's what failed missile tests
> look like. So Just keep moving. There's nothing to see. You can always
> count on corporate news to give you the information you need. Go
> shopping at the mall. Go to Disneyland or Go on a Cruise! We'll tell
> you if anything important happens. Now let's talk about Tiger's
> personal problems.
> ---
> If there are any non-zombies reading this...
> Watch for more major UFO sitings too awesome to be covered up by the
> corporate media.
>
> Be sure to see the pictures of what they have the audacity to try to
> call a failed missile test. Corporate news has been downplaying it.
Thank you, Dotty, for revealing the corporate media's attempt to quash the
continued reappearance of Me, Master Bait -- the One Maitreya --. It is the
tireless efforts those dedicated and evolved beings such as yourself who keep
My Task alive!
blessings,
Master Bait -- The One Maitreya --
Kinpa
here's another failed missle test, good pic too...
http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc4/FuzzBucket_01/missle-457.jpg
Tom
>
> Yes folks - it was just another failed missile test - it was just a
> failed missile test -repeat after me "that was a failed missile
> test". There's nothing to see there.
Yes, there was. There was a very entertaining failed missle test. It
was very cool to watch.
If it was a Space Brother making a light show in order to convince
people that they should do what Benny the Creme tells them to do, it
was another abject failure. I fail to see any connection at all
between a light-and-smoke show over Norway and your religious
ruminations.
> You can always
> count on corporate news to give you the information you need.
Both the story about the light and the story about the Russian rocket
came from exactly the same source. If it hadn't been for "corporate
media", you wouldn't have been aware that anything had happened at
all.
Your decision on which story to believe has nothing to do with
"corporate media" and everything to do with your attempts to cherry-
pick your facts in order to support your preconceptions.
You believed the first story without a single question because such a
story feeds into your Spaceman fantasy but you didn't believe the
second because it contradicts your Spaceman fantasy.
Kinpa
wow, noone noticed my failed rocket pic...that's funny, i guess the
whole truth isnt very convenient is it? why bother with it...
Venerable Rinpoche
The Space Brothers made that missle crash as a test of your faith!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=kdsI_GHzj1s
blessings,
Master Bait --The One Maitreya--
--
One thousand blessings
Kinpa
MY faith? being tested by space brothas? ok, seems alright to me...as
long as they got Soul and theyre supa bad~!
Tom
I did, but then again, I saw no reason to comment, since I also think
the Spaceman preacher is an absurdly credulous twit.