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maz

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Dec 4, 2009, 9:22:39 AM12/4/09
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KEN:>> an ACIM friend asked me yesterday, "How long does the undoing process
take?"
Question: How would you have answered this question?
Love you, -k PS Thanks to my friend for the question!<<


Dear Ken et al,

There are various answers depending on the l/Level which is addressed.

On level 2 high (healed perception, happy dream, Atonement through Miracles
and Holy Instants) the answer given in the Course points to the immedeacy of
salvation, the perfection and conclusion of Atonement the very moment the
error occurred. So on this Level it doesn't take time, as in "how long is an
instant".

On the levels 2 low moving to 2 high (unhelaed perception, wrong mindedness
being corrected by "retracing every step" ) the time frames are more
concrete than abstract.

Jesus speaks of millions of years spanning the dream of separation, and
speaks of an potentially equally long time for the Atonement to unfold in
time, unless a critical number of members of the Sonship are turning to
miracle-mindedness, which in turn suggests the 'celestial speed-up' and the
saving of MUCH time for the Atonement process.

This, of course, is paraphrased. I have no material to quote from with me,
but will be happy to send them PS or PPS.

peace, maz


Carrie

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Dec 4, 2009, 10:04:04 AM12/4/09
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Since time is illusion this question really isn't relevant.
The undoing process has already been done.
And even going by the idea of "time" who could say how long each person
would take to awaken and remember?
I once heard a similar question, I think it was Jerry Jampolsky.
Someone asked how do you know what progress you are making...
The answer was "how long do you hold a grievance?"

maz

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Dec 4, 2009, 10:29:32 AM12/4/09
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"Carrie" <starch...@charter.net> ...

> Since time is illusion this question really isn't relevant.

It is relevant to some, despite your denial.

> The undoing process has already been done.

So says Jesus. How do *you* know its true?

> And even going by the idea of "time" who could say how long each person
> would take to awaken and remember?

Hhm. Who? That's an easy answer...

> I once heard a similar question, I think it was Jerry Jampolsky.
> Someone asked how do you know what progress you are making...
> The answer was "how long do you hold a grievance?"

:-) good one.

namazt�

Carrie

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Dec 4, 2009, 3:28:53 PM12/4/09
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maz wrote:
> "Carrie" <starch...@charter.net> ...
>> Since time is illusion this question really isn't relevant.
>
> It is relevant to some, despite your denial.

Well, anyone who wants it to be relevant can believe it is. I don't
think there is any real way of knowing, so (to me) it doesn't really matter.

>
>> The undoing process has already been done.
>
> So says Jesus. How do *you* know its true?

I don't, it just makes sense to me and feels "right" and again, I have
no way of proving otherwise.

>
>> And even going by the idea of "time" who could say how long each
>> person would take to awaken and remember?
>
> Hhm. Who? That's an easy answer...
>
>> I once heard a similar question, I think it was Jerry Jampolsky.
>> Someone asked how do you know what progress you are making...
>> The answer was "how long do you hold a grievance?"
>
> :-) good one.

It's good and also way of determining our progress, that can be
measured (in our own thinking)

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