Re: Hey China -- The Huge Earthquake Is FUCKING PAYBACK for Tibet
Peter Terpstra
> And what about karma? This disaster which met the Chinese people was
> actually caused by the actions of the Chinese government.
Karma has nothing to do with this as far as i know, earthquakes are not
caused by human karma but by nature.
Kind regards,
Peter
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Wompom
wrote:
> Jakub A. Krzewicki in <g0dhrv$9n...@news.onet.pl> :
>
> > And what about karma? This disaster which met the Chinese people was
> > actually caused by the actions of the Chinese government.
>
> Karma has nothing to do with this as far as i know, earthquakes are not
> caused by human karma but by nature.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Peter
Well said imo
Jakub A. Krzewicki
<pe...@dharma.dyndns.invalid> contaminated talk.politics.tibet with the
following letter:
There is also some collective karma of nations.
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tois egregorosin hena kai koinon kosmon einai
ton de koimomenon hekaston eis idion apostrephesthai
Peter Terpstra
> There is also some collective karma of nations.
Karma is a mind matter and can not shake the earth.
Peter Terpstra
> There is also some collective karma of nations.
Karma is a mind matter and can not shake the earth.
Further its time that China starts to clean up the big karma mess they
made :-)
Wompom
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> ¶roda, 14 maja 2008 09:11. carbon entity 'Peter Terpstra'
> <pe...@dharma.dyndns.invalid> contaminated talk.politics.tibet with the
> following letter:
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>
> >> And what about karma? This disaster which met the Chinese people was
> >> actually caused by the actions of the Chinese government.
>
> > Karma has nothing to do with this as far as i know, earthquakes are not
> > caused by human karma but by nature.
>
> > Kind regards,
>
> > Peter
>
> There is also some collective karma of nations.
Opinions differ on this. I think the Buddhist concept of individual
karma is instructive and easy to understand and helpful i.e. the
notion of individual intention, action and consequences. The popular
Western notion of Karma however seems to be mixed up with concepts
from Hinduism and new age thinking. 'Collective Karma' particularly
can, imo, seem fatalistic, or in this particular instance, like some
wrath of an old testament God. Thus I personally find the concept of
'Collective Karma' tending to the pernicious and at best unhelpful
(and I am not sure if its really a Buddhist notion of Karma at all).
In China, imo, there are individuals generating positive, negative and
neutral karma but the web of consequences is far too complex to call.
And strangely, small individual acts could have massive consequences
for example if China engineered an equitable settlement over Tibet the
positive effects could be profound (and yet the actions leading to
this may be of only a very few individuals).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butterfly_effect
Anyhow that's my view fwiw, yours may be different...
possum
"Wompom" <m...@stefangmaj.plus.com> wrote in message
news:48371a01-c3b1-406a...@24g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...> środa, 14 maja 2008 09:11. carbon entity 'Peter Terpstra'
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butterfly_effect
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hi stef
maybe the butterfly effect is why sid said don't even go
there?
i concluded he was probably right and try not to think about
it, but of course i do sometimes, but it never gets you
anywhere.
what about zeitgeist? what's that all about i wonder. and
synchronicity...?
anyway, i sometimes think everything everything's happening
in step or in tune, and then i don't.
china? prolly best way to sort out the tibet pain is if
china get into burma and do good... : )
like i'd know...
: )
possum
Wompom
> "Wompom" <m...@stefangmaj.plus.com> wrote in message
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> news:48371a01-c3b1-406a...@24g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
> On May 14, 2:45 pm, "Jakub A. Krzewicki"
> <ebre...@poczta.onet.pl>
> wrote:
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Indeed it's headachesville man.
> what about zeitgeist? what's that all about i wonder.
Depends on your POV and can change in a moment.
> synchronicity...?
Maybe yes maybe no, maybe.
> anyway, i sometimes think everything everything's happening
> in step or in tune, and then i don't.
Hormones dear!
(and you think I am joking ;-)
>
> china? prolly best way to sort out the tibet pain is if
> china get into burma and do good... : )
> like i'd know...
> : )
> possum
ditto
(shall we put flowers in our hair?)