> On Oct 18, 1:31 pm, halfawake <epstein...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>Appledog wrote:
>>
>>>On Oct 15, 2:14 pm, halfawake <epstein...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>When a person who has not had kensho reads the Buddhist scriptures,
>>>>questions his teachers and fellow monks about Buddhism, or practices
>>>>religious disciplines, he is merely creating the causes of his own
>>>>illusion - a sure sign that he is still confined within samsara. He
>>>>tries constantly to keep himself detached in thought and deed, and all
>>>>the while his thoughts and deeds are attached. He endeavors to be doing
>>>>nothing all day long, and all the while he is busily doing.
>>
>>>>But if this same person experiences kensho, everything changes. Although
>>>>he is constantly thinking and acting, it is totally free and unattached.
>>>>Although he is engaged in activity around the clock, that activity is,
>>>>as such, non-activity. This great change is the result of his kensho. It
>>>>is like water that snakes and cows drink from the same cistern, which
>>>>becomes deadly venom in one and milk in the other.
>>
>>>You've been told this by me and others several times, but it seems you
>>>only have respect for dead words in a book.
>>
>>>-
>>
>>You are really an incredible idiot. This is just about the first time I
>>have quoted anything in months. Almost everything I say is my own take
>>on things. I quoted Hakuin to show what he said after my "Hakuin"
>>comment. And then you jump in like a retarded carrier pigeon to say
>>"You Quote Too Much." You're an imbecile. I don't generally read, and
>>I'd be better off if I read more. And you'd be better off if you
>>weren't deranged and stupid at the same time.
>
>
> Oh please... Yes, again, you missed the point of what I was saying and
> have decided to insult me instead of ask for clarification.
Maybe that's because you're an arbitrarily and inaccurately insulting
little prick.
>
> Nothing you say matters. Save it for the judge at the pearly gates. I
> can only hope for your sake you don't treat him the same way. It will
> be very ironic when you are greeted with the same bemused smirk. I
> wonder if you will recognize it, then, and finally see your error -
> too late, of course, but still?
stick it up your ass, your Holiness.
Bye!
Robert
= = = = = =
You're the one insulting people. Imbecile - Hahahaha! You are so far
from buddhism that you have completely discredited yourself. Who gives
a flying fuck what you think of me? You've used me as an excuse to
avoid discussing buddhism. You lose, robert. Period. This isn't a
troll. You are completely incapable of carrying on a high level
discussion. It's really rather sad.
> > Nothing you say matters. Save it for the judge at the pearly gates. I
> > can only hope for your sake you don't treat him the same way. It will
> > be very ironic when you are greeted with the same bemused smirk. I
> > wonder if you will recognize it, then, and finally see your error -
> > too late, of course, but still?
>
> stick it up your ass, your Holiness.
>
> Bye!
Bye? How ironic! lol
-
LOL!
An excellent rejoinder.
What I've been finding amusing here is that you quoted Hakuin
*dis*approvingly, and then Appledork comes along and scolds
you that he's already told it to you but that you don't respect
it when *he* says it! That is, 'dork thought you were citing
Hakuin *in agreement*!
Dharma Troll:
The "direct experience" talk is dogma, and an attempt to say "my
sect has the pipeline to the truth". It's nonsensical.
Robert:
I don't think it's an American problem. Hakuin is to blame.
Herbzet:
Whut?
Robert:
<Quotes Hakuin to show how he is "to blame" ;) >
--
hz
I'm fully aware of the flow of discussion. When I said haikun was
right, I meant robert was wrong.
-
Appledog wrote:
> halfawake wrote:
> > Bye!
>
> Bye? How ironic! lol
I'm afraid, Robert, that among all the self-righteous gibbering, 'dork has
a point here. You are his second strongest enabler here, after Jen. You
are his second-most reliable mark. You are reactive to his provocations,
though your reactivity goes on and off. It's pretty much 50-50, a
quite reasonable gamble for him.
He fairly reliably (50-50) has got your number.
--
hz
I'm glad to hear that you agree with this Zen Buddhism.
--
hz
Yes, you really are rather sad, and rather vacant.
Robert
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what is your Appledog reaction ratio?
do you get to discount the reactions directed at all
the other posters in reaction to his posts to them?
they should be included since he sees them too
what does it cost you to give him what he wants?
what are you learning about yourself
by what you hold back? (content)
what are you learning about yourself
by why you need to interfere? (structure)
Appledogs ability to spin and project content can
be a priceless opportunity to reveal and
examine the egoic structures you own.
IF you can stomach the Awareness to look
in the mirror.
(keep your attention on you whilst you interact)
did Buddha downplay debate on egoic content
in favor of highlighting examining the egoic structures
that adhere themselves to content?
ZN :D
absolute permanent perfection overflowing without action