Evidence for Jesus Christ as the Messiah
IB Shambat
cindys
"IB Shambat" <ibsham...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> http://www.messianic-prophecy.net/
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Proof that Jesus is not the messiah: www.jewsforjudaism.org
Best regards,
---Cindy S.
cupcake
>
> Re: Proof that Jesus is not the Messiah
>
> From: "cindys" <cst...@rochester.rr.com>
> Reply to: [1]"cindys"
> Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 20:56:32 GMT
> Organization: Road Runner
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>"IB Shambat" <ibsham...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>> [10]http://www.messianic-prophecy.net/
>-----------
>Proof that Jesus is not the messiah: www.jewsforjudaism.org
>
>Best regards,
>---Cindy S.
hi Cindy,
i see yer still fighting the Good Fight
you go girl!
Kevin S. Wilson
See that list of newsgroup up there, Cindy? Do you see one or two that
aren't like the others? Do you think maybe your "Good Fight" might be
out of place in those groups?
> you go girl!
ITYM, "Go, girl. Soon. Anywhere but here."
--
Kevin S. Wilson
Tech Writer at a University Somewhere in Idaho
"You can safely ignore Kevin in order to
maximise life's experience." --A. Loon, in alt.religion.kibology
Patricia Heil
Feel like telling some new lies?
IB Shambat wrote:
>
> http://www.messianic-prophecy.net/
cupcake
> Re: Proof that Jesus is not the Messiah
>
> Reply to: [1]res...@spro.net
> Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 14:06:12 -0700
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>On Fri, 07 Nov 2003 21:01:48 GMT, cupcake <t...@r.slrup> wrote:
>
>>> Re: Proof that Jesus is not the Messiah
>>>
>>> From: "cindys" <cst...@rochester.rr.com>
>>> Reply to: [1]"cindys"
>>> Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 20:56:32 GMT
>>> Organization: Road Runner
>>> Newsgroups:
>>> [2]alt.angst,
>>> [3]alt.religion.hindu,
>>> [4]talk.religion.buddhism,
>>> [5]soc.culture.jewish,
>>> [6]alt.religion.kibology
>>> Followup to: [7]newsgroups
>>> References:
>>> [8]<154fc2cf.03110...@posting.google.com>
>>>
>>>"IB Shambat" <ibsham...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>> [10][11]http://www.messianic-prophecy.net/
>>>-----------
>>>Proof that Jesus is not the messiah: www.jewsforjudaism.org
>>>
>>>Best regards,
>>>---Cindy S.
>>
>>
>> hi Cindy,
>>
>> i see yer still fighting the Good Fight
>
>See that list of newsgroup up there, Cindy? Do you see one or two that
>aren't like the others? Do you think maybe your "Good Fight" might be
>out of place in those groups?
>
no -- these are all issues that you need to educate
yourself about, yu little moron
>> you go girl!
>
>ITYM, "Go, girl. Soon. Anywhere but here."
>
>--
>Kevin S. Wilson
>Tech Writer at a University Somewhere in Idaho
>
oh! -- another sheep herder, huh?
Jacob W. Haller
> Get tired of libeling Beverly over on support.diet?
> Feel like telling some new lies?
I don't know about Ilya, but I sure do! Here are some brand-new lies!
1) The mold that grows on cheese is composed of millions of tiny
confused astronauts!
2) The Galileo probe didn't actually get sent into Jupiter -- it was
actually sent back in time to assassinate Kennedy!
3) Babe Ruth was the best president the Soviet Union ever had, and it is
for that reason that there is a statue in his honor in the center of
Canberra, Austria!
4) Crossposting stuff to more than five USENET newsgroups causes sheep
to walk backwards!
That was very liberating. Thank you!
-jwgh
--
'The strip is beautiful, btw. I laughed, I cried, I showed it to a
friend, the friend said "I don't get it," I laughed.'
-- Reid Orsten, 27 August 2003
Kevin S. Wilson
>>Tech Writer at a University Somewhere in Idaho
>>
> oh! -- another sheep herder, huh?
That's one, but you really need to try harder if you're going to get
thoroughly hooked. You need to also take a swipe at academia
(preferably at the same time including more misspellings,
ungrammatical sentences, and odd punctuation) and you need to say
something meany-headed about tech writers. Only then will I consider
you to have been trolled.
Hop to it!
--
Kevin S. Wilson
Tech Writer at a University Somewhere in Idaho
Talysman the Ur-Beatle
perhaps you should examine
(you know you want to)
cupcake
:)
...................
Talysman the Ur-Beatle
cupcake
>
> Re: Evidence for the Dalai Lama and all his horde of tulkus and gurus as the
> Messiah
>
> From: "Talysman the Ur-Beatle" <taly...@globalsurrealism.com>
> Reply to: [1]"Talysman the Ur-Beatle"
> Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 21:56:50 GMT
> Organization: Global Surrealism
> Newsgroups:
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> [4]talk.religion.buddhism,
> [5]soc.culture.jewish,
> [6]alt.religion.kibology
> Followup to: [7]newsgroups
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>
>
>
> tell your dalai llama his kung fu sucks! I kick his ass too!
>
>
he's pretty much of the laughing-stock of world Buddhism,
believe me...
... don't worry :)
Madge
>
cupcake
Talysman the Ur-Beatle wrote:
>
> tell your dalai llama his kung fu sucks! I kick his ass too!
>
>
Jacob W. Haller
Madge
>
> http://jwgh.org/temp/churchsign.jpg
>
IFYPFY
Kevin S. Wilson
<deletethisbit...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Jacob W. Haller wrote:
>>
>> http://jwgh.org/temp/churchsign.jpg
>>
>
>IFYPFY
>
>http://home.btconnect.com/kibo/churchsign.jpg
Except you spelled "Shawn" wrong, newbie.
Theresa Willis
<taly...@globalsurrealism.com> wrote:
>tell your dalai llama his kung fu sucks! I kick his ass too!
Feh! You are no match for my Riving Scythe Style!
Beable van Polasm
>
> Kevin S Wilson wrote:
> >
> >See that list of newsgroup up there, Cindy? Do you see one or two
> >that aren't like the others? Do you think maybe your "Good Fight"
> >might be out of place in those groups?
> >
>
> no -- these are all issues that you need to educate
> yourself about, yu little moron
Hey, HEY HEY!!! You can't just barge into this chat-BBS and call Kevin
Wilson a "little moron" This is TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE!!1 He weighs over
TWO HUNDRED POUNDS and has been known to eat over ten pounds of pulled
pork at a sitting!! So if you want to call him names, GET IT RIGHT and
call him a BIG MORON. What a maroon.
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Kingbarry2000
"cindys" <cst...@rochester.rr.com> wrote in message
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Proof that someone needs to be God and lay down the law(s):
http://www.kibo.com/faq/
--
Certe, toto, sentio nos in kansate non iam adesse
Anthony
"cupcake" <t...@r.slrup> wrote in message news:vSTqb.97$H5...@news.more.net...
No, these issues don't concern anyone except Christians and those they try
to convert. It has no bearing on Buddhism and Hinduism, to name just two
newsgroups. Those who desire to be "educated" regarding these issues would
visit Christian and Jewish newsgroups.
Anthony
cupcake
>
> Re: Proof that Jesus is not the Messiah
>
> Reply to: [1]"Anthony"
> Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 18:33:06 -0600
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>"cupcake" <t...@r.slrup> wrote in message [10]news:vSTqb.97$H5...@news.more.net...
>> >>>> [10][11][12]http://www.messianic-prophecy.net/
>> >>>-----------
>> >>>Proof that Jesus is not the messiah: www.jewsforjudaism.org
>> >>>
>> >>>Best regards,
>> >>>---Cindy S.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> hi Cindy,
>> >>
>> >> i see yer still fighting the Good Fight
>> >
>> >See that list of newsgroup up there, Cindy? Do you see one or two that
>> >aren't like the others? Do you think maybe your "Good Fight" might be
>> >out of place in those groups?
>> >
>>
>> no -- these are all issues that you need to educate
>> yourself about, yu little moron
>>
>
>No, these issues don't concern anyone except Christians and those they try
>to convert. It has no bearing on Buddhism and Hinduism, to name just two
>newsgroups. Those who desire to be "educated" regarding these issues would
>visit Christian and Jewish newsgroups.
>
well, then why don't you juzt go and sit on the other
side of the room with yer little moron friend, 'kay
IB Shambat
> news:154fc2cf.03110...@posting.google.com...
> > http://www.messianic-prophecy.net/
> -----------
> Proof that Jesus is not the messiah: www.jewsforjudaism.org
I don't see anything readable on that website. Any particular
documents I can look at?
Madge
>
> On Fri, 07 Nov 2003 22:39:50 +0000, Madge
> <deletethisbit...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >Jacob W. Haller wrote:
> >>
> >> http://jwgh.org/temp/churchsign.jpg
> >>
> >
> >IFYPFY
> >
> >http://home.btconnect.com/kibo/churchsign.jpg
>
> Except you spelled "Shawn" wrong, newbie.
>
Fixed oh wise one http://home.btconnect.com/kibo/churchsign1.jpg
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bob
<dasher...@REMOVEhotmail.comREMOVE> wrote:
>
>> no -- these are all issues that you need to educate
>> yourself about, yu little moron
>
>No, these issues don't concern anyone except Christians and those they try
>to convert. It has no bearing on Buddhism and Hinduism, to name just two
>newsgroups. Those who desire to be "educated" regarding these issues would
>visit Christian and Jewish newsgroups.
One would think they'd go to the library, the bookstore, a synagogue
or a church if they were really interested.
Are you a geek or what?
bob
wrote:
Your local rabbi might be able to help you.
bob
- is your mother really a shrink?
cindys
Maybe nothing that you care to read because the site very clearly explains
why Jesus is not the messiah. But more to the point, stop missionizing
Christianity on the Jewish newsgroup. Keep it on the Christian group where
it belongs.
Best regards,
---Cindy S.
cupcake
> Re: Proof that Jesus is not the Messiah
>
> From: "cindys" <cst...@rochester.rr.com>
> Reply to: [1]"cindys"
> Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 23:59:25 GMT
> Organization: Road Runner
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> [2]alt.angst,
> [3]alt.religion.hindu,
> [4]talk.religion.buddhism,
> [5]soc.culture.jewish,
> [6]alt.religion.kibology
> Followup to: [7]newsgroups
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>> > > [14]http://www.messianic-prophecy.net/
>> > -----------
>> > Proof that Jesus is not the messiah: www.jewsforjudaism.org
>>
>> I don't see anything readable on that website. Any particular
>> documents I can look at?
>-------------------
>Maybe nothing that you care to read because the site very clearly explains
>why Jesus is not the messiah. But more to the point, stop missionizing
>Christianity on the Jewish newsgroup. Keep it on the Christian group where
>it belongs.
>Best regards,
>---Cindy S.
>
i know, but, it still think it's cool the way whenever
these little cock-roaches come out of the wordwork (and
create these cross-posts) that it brings us all so much
closer together :)
cindys
"cupcake" <t...@r.slrup> wrote in message
Cupcake, how are you?? (Usually it takes Bernie to get us together).
Best regards,
---Cindy S.
cupcake
> Re: Proof that Jesus is not the Messiah
>
> From: "cindys" <cst...@rochester.rr.com>
> Reply to: [1]"cindys"
> Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2003 01:24:48 GMT
> Organization: Road Runner
> Newsgroups:
> [2]alt.angst,
> [3]alt.religion.hindu,
> [4]talk.religion.buddhism,
> [5]soc.culture.jewish,
> [6]alt.religion.kibology
> Followup to: [7]newsgroups
> References:
> [9]<Yzfrb.108$H5....@news.more.net>
>
>"cupcake" <t...@r.slrup> wrote in message
>> >
>> > Re: Proof that Jesus is not the Messiah
>> >
>> > From: "cindys" <cst...@rochester.rr.com>
>> > Reply to: [1]"cindys"
>> > Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2003 23:59:25 GMT
>> > Organization: Road Runner
>> > Newsgroups:
>> > [2]alt.angst,
>> > [3]alt.religion.hindu,
>> > [4]talk.religion.buddhism,
>> > [5]soc.culture.jewish,
>> > [6]alt.religion.kibology
>> > Followup to: [7]newsgroups
>> > References:
>> > [8]<154fc2cf.03110...@posting.google.com>
>> > [9]<4GTqb.37131$ji3...@twister.nyroc.rr.com>
>> > [10]<154fc2cf.0311...@posting.google.com>
>> >
>> >"IB Shambat" <ibsham...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> >> > > [14][14]http://www.messianic-prophecy.net/
>> >> > -----------
>> >> > Proof that Jesus is not the messiah: www.jewsforjudaism.org
>> >>
>> >> I don't see anything readable on that website. Any particular
>> >> documents I can look at?
>> >-------------------
>> >Maybe nothing that you care to read because the site very clearly
>explains
>> >why Jesus is not the messiah. But more to the point, stop missionizing
>> >Christianity on the Jewish newsgroup. Keep it on the Christian group
>where
>> >it belongs.
>> >Best regards,
>> >---Cindy S.
>> >
>>
>> i know, but, it still think it's cool the way whenever
>> these little cock-roaches come out of the wordwork (and
>> create these cross-posts) that it brings us all so much
>> closer together :)
>---------------
>
>
> Cupcake, how are you?? (Usually it takes Bernie to get us together).
>
well, i'm still under a state of siege by my buddhist
brethren, but, i still take time out, now and again,
to be nice to someone :)
>Best regards,
>---Cindy S.
Talysman the Ur-Beatle
>> Cupcake, how are you?? (Usually it takes Bernie to get us together).
>>
>
>
> well, i'm still under a state of siege by my buddhist
> brethren, but, i still take time out, now and again,
> to be nice to someone :)
OMG! GET A ROOM, YOU TWO!
no wait! what am I saying?
HAWT LEZBEAN BUDDHIST PR0N ACTION! you can't beat that!
well, except with a zenstick.
cupcake
>
> Re: Proof that Jesus is not the Messiah
>
> Reply to: [1]"Talysman the Ur-Beatle"
> Organization: Global Surrealism
> Newsgroups:
> [2]alt.angst,
> [3]alt.religion.hindu,
> [4]talk.religion.buddhism,
> [5]soc.culture.jewish,
> [6]alt.religion.kibology
> Followup to: [7]newsgroup
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>cupcake <t...@r.slrup> wrote in [10]news:iPgrb.111$H5....@news.more.net:
uhhhhh... cupcake is a gay guy :) ;)
swt
[...]
> uhhhhh... cupcake is a gay guy :) ;)
Cupcake refers to himself in the third person. Cupcake reminds swt of Bob
Dole. swt makes 240mL cakes instead of cupcakes, because swt is on the
metric system.
But while we're talking about religion and gay guys, I heard about a recent
letter to the editor. The author wrote, in reference to Gene Robinson's
appointment, "I'm just thankful that the church's founder, Henry VIII, and
his wife, Catherine of Aragon, and his wife, Anne Boleyn, and his wife, Jane
Seymour, and his wive, Anne of Cleeves, and his wife, Catherine Howard, and
his wife, Catherine Parr, are no longer here to suffer through this assault
on the traditional Christian marriage."
P.S. I have an elegant proof that Jesus is not the Messiah, but this post is
too small to contain it.
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Theresa Willis
>>
>>OMG! GET A ROOM, YOU TWO!
>>
>>no wait! what am I saying?
>>
>>HAWT LEZBEAN BUDDHIST PR0N ACTION! you can't beat that!
>>
>>well, except with a zenstick.
>>
>
>
> uhhhhh... cupcake is a gay guy :) ;)
Oh, that's gonna harsh the talysman's WOKKA CHIKKA right UP.
Ben Wolfson
>
>P.S. I have an elegant proof that Jesus is not the Messiah, but this
>post is too small to contain it.
I have made this post too large to contain my elegant proof because I
have not had time to make it too small to contain the proof.
--
BTR
The Glass Marble, mistaking the No. 37 Penpoint for the Four-Holed
Button, pushed it into the Yawning Chasm.
Anthony
"cupcake" <t...@r.slrup> wrote in message news:20Xqb.103$H5...@news.more.net...
No thanks: anyone who wants to argue for the sake of argument, with no
apparent purpose, and must resort to immature name-calling is best suited
for "sitting in the corner." The rest of us will actively take part in
reality unbiasedly. *LOL*
Anthony
Anthony
"bob" <than...@coldmail.nu> wrote in message
news:16mqqv4ih5l8t6q2j...@4ax.com...
That is true, though there isn't much discussion to be had at a bookstore
and church, and many of us don't live near a synagogue, mosque, Temple, or
other place of worship. Furthermore, there aren't a wide variety of
opinions to be found in such places, as opposed to public forums.
>
> Are you a geek or what?
No, I'm a nerd, which is a rank above a geek. *LOL*
Anthony
Talysman the Ur-Beatle
wait are you saying that gay guys can't be lezbeans? TAKE THAT BACK! YOU
AREN'T THE BOSS OF LEZBEAN CUPCAKE!
also, stop sprouting extra mouths. you may be hungry, but sprouting extra
mouths does *not* give you the right to take twice as much pie as the rest
of us. it's all done according to a mathematical equation.
and also also: GET A REAL NEWSREADER!
IB Shambat
> > I don't see anything readable on that website. Any particular
> > documents I can look at?
> -------------------
> Maybe nothing that you care to read because the site very clearly explains
> why Jesus is not the messiah.
Which part of the site? There was a discussion about the Jewish
Messiah, but there are direct quotes from the Bible that say
specifically that the Messiah was supposed to show up in 32 AD, that
he was supposed to be rejected by people, etc.
Patricia Heil
Either you don't know how to read or you don't know how
to write. There are no verses in Tannach that say this.
cindys
news:<xrfrb.44969$ji3....@twister.nyroc.rr.com>...
>
> > > I don't see anything readable on that website. Any particular
> > > documents I can look at?
> > -------------------
> > Maybe nothing that you care to read because the site very clearly
explains
> > why Jesus is not the messiah.
>
> Which part of the site? There was a discussion about the Jewish
> Messiah
Correct. The site clearly lists the requirements for the Jewish messiah, and
it is easy to see that Jesus fulfilled none of these.
>but there are direct quotes from the Bible that say
> specifically that the Messiah was supposed to show up in 32 AD,
Yes, *a messiah,* NOT Jesus. If you're referring to Daniel 9:25-26, the
*cut-off messiah* is the high priest Alexander Yannai. I have provided this
proof on several occasions, the most recent being less than 2 weeks ago on
this (SCJ) forum. The proof may also be found on the Jews for Judaism
website, if I am not mistaken.
Best regards,
---Cindy S.
Kevin S. Wilson
>>> no -- these are all issues that you need to educate
>>> yourself about, yu little moron
>>>
>>
>>No, these issues don't concern anyone except Christians and those they try
>>to convert. It has no bearing on Buddhism and Hinduism, to name just two
>>newsgroups. Those who desire to be "educated" regarding these issues would
>>visit Christian and Jewish newsgroups.
>>
> well, then why don't you juzt go and sit on the other
> side of the room with yer little moron friend, 'kay
>
who can say, without a trace of irony, that other people need to be
educated about spiritual matters.
Is the gruel tasty in the camp you have in mind for us all?
--
Kevin S. Wilson
Tech Writer at a University Somewhere in Idaho
"Who put these fingerprints on my imagination?"
bob
Good point.
>> Are you a geek or what?
>
>No, I'm a nerd, which is a rank above a geek. *LOL*
heh
bob
- I'm much the same
Susan Cohen
"swt" <sw...@cox.net> wrote in message
news:azhrb.23576$PD2.16781@fed1read05...
> "cupcake" <t...@r.slrup> wrote in message
> news:qahrb.113$H5....@news.more.net...
> [...]
> > uhhhhh... cupcake is a gay guy :) ;)
>
> Cupcake refers to himself in the third person. Cupcake reminds swt of Bob
> Dole. swt makes 240mL cakes instead of cupcakes, because swt is on the
> metric system.
>
> But while we're talking about religion and gay guys, I heard about a
recent
> letter to the editor. The author wrote, in reference to Gene Robinson's
> appointment, "I'm just thankful that the church's founder, Henry VIII, and
> his wife, Catherine of Aragon, and his wife, Anne Boleyn, and his wife,
Jane
> Seymour, and his wive, Anne of Cleeves, and his wife, Catherine Howard,
and
> his wife, Catherine Parr, are no longer here to suffer through this
assault
> on the traditional Christian marriage."
Of course, Henry VIII was never divorced; all his marriages tooplace in
accordance w/Church doctrine :-)
Susan
IB Shambat
Correct. The site clearly lists the requirements for the Jewish
messiah, and
> it is easy to see that Jesus fulfilled none of these.
>
> >but there are direct quotes from the Bible that say
> > specifically that the Messiah was supposed to show up in 32 AD,
>
> Yes, *a messiah,* NOT Jesus. If you're referring to Daniel 9:25-26, the
> *cut-off messiah* is the high priest Alexander Yannai. I have provided this
> proof on several occasions, the most recent being less than 2 weeks ago on
> this (SCJ) forum. The proof may also be found on the Jews for Judaism
> website, if I am not mistaken.
> Best regards,
> ---Cindy S.
OK Cindy. Hate to do this to you, but...
Born of a virgin (Isaiah 7:14; Matthew 1:21-23)
A descendant of Abraham (Genesis 12:1-3; 22:18; Matthew 1:1; Galatians
3:16)
Of the tribe of Judah (Genesis 49:10; Luke 3:23, 33; Hebrews 7:14)
Of the house of David (2 Samuel 7:12-16; Matthew 1:1)
Born in Bethlehem (Micah 5:2, Matthew 2:1; Luke 2:4-7)
Taken to Egypt (Hosea 11:1; Matthew 2:14-15)
Herodґs killing of the infants (Jeremiah 31:15; Matthew 2:16-18)
Anointed by the Holy Spirit (Isaiah 11:2; Matthew 3:16-17)
Heralded by the messenger of the Lord (John the Baptist) (Isaiah
40:3-5; Malachi 3:1; Matthew 3:1-3)
Would perform miracles (Isaiah 35:5-6; Matthew 9:35)
Would preach good news (Isaiah 61:1; Luke 4:14-21)
Would minister in Galilee (Isaiah 9:1; Matthew 4:12-16)
Would cleanse the Temple (Malachi 3:1; Matthew 21:12-13)
Would first present Himself as King 173,880 days from the decree to
rebuild Jerusalem (Daniel 9:25; Matthew 21:4-11)
Would enter Jerusalem as a king on a donkey (Zechariah 9:9; Matthew
21:4-9)
Would be rejected by Jews (Psalm 118:22; I Peter 2:7)
Die a humiliating death (Psalm 22; Isaiah 53) involving:
- rejection (Isaiah 53:3; John 1:10-11; 7:5,48)
- betrayal by a friend (Psalm 41:9; Luke 22:3-4; John 13:18)
- sold for 30 pieces of silver (Zechariah 11:12; Matthew 26:14-15)
- silence before His accusers (Isaiah 53:7; Matthew 27:12-14)
- being mocked (Psalm 22: 7-8; Matthew 27:31)
- beaten (Isaiah 52:14; Matthew 27:26)
- spit upon (Isaiah 50:6; Matthew 27:30)
- piercing His hands and feet (Psalm 22:16; Matthew 27:31)
- being crucified with thieves (Isaiah 53:12; Matthew 27:38)
- praying for His persecutors (Isaiah 53:12; Luke 23:34)
- piercing His side (Zechariah 12:10; John 19:34)
- given gall and vinegar to drink (Psalm 69:21, Matthew 27:34, Luke
23:36)
- no broken bones (Psalm 34:20; John 19:32-36)
- buried in a rich manґs tomb (Isaiah 53:9; Matthew 27:57-60)
- casting lots for His garments (Psalm 22:18; John 19:23-24)
Would rise from the dead!! (Psalm 16:10; Mark 16:6; Acts 2:31)
from http://www.messianic-prophecy.net
cupcake
> Re: Proof that Jesus is not the Messiah
>
> From: ibsham...@yahoo.com (IB Shambat)
> Reply to: [1]IB Shambat
> Date: 9 Nov 2003 16:13:05 -0800
> Organization: http://groups.google.com
> Newsgroups:
> [2]alt.angst,
> [3]alt.religion.hindu,
> [4]talk.religion.buddhism,
> [5]soc.culture.jewish,
> [6]alt.religion.kibology
> Followup to: [7]newsgroups
> References:
> [8]<154fc2cf.03110...@posting.google.com>
> [10]<154fc2cf.0311...@posting.google.com>
> [11]<xrfrb.44969$ji3....@twister.nyroc.rr.com>
> [12]<154fc2cf.03110...@posting.google.com>
> [13]<XOsrb.49378$ji3....@twister.nyroc.rr.com>
>"cindys" <cst...@rochester.rr.com> wrote in message [14]news:<XOsrb.49378$ji3.
>21...@twister.nyroc.rr.com>...
> Correct. The site clearly lists the requirements for the Jewish
>messiah, and
>> it is easy to see that Jesus fulfilled none of these.
>>
>> >but there are direct quotes from the Bible that say
>> > specifically that the Messiah was supposed to show up in 32 AD,
>>
>> Yes, *a messiah,* NOT Jesus. If you're referring to Daniel 9:25-26, the
>> *cut-off messiah* is the high priest Alexander Yannai. I have provided this
>> proof on several occasions, the most recent being less than 2 weeks ago on
>> this (SCJ) forum. The proof may also be found on the Jews for Judaism
>> website, if I am not mistaken.
>> Best regards,
>> ---Cindy S.
>>
>
> OK Cindy. Hate to do this to you, but...
>
well, Cindy, looks like we got a live one here :)
go get'em, tiger! :) :)
>from [15]http://www.messianic-prophecy.net
Patricia Heil
What a moron. Nobody can be born of a virgin. You are so stupid.
cindys
news:<XOsrb.49378$ji3....@twister.nyroc.rr.com>...
> Correct. The site clearly lists the requirements for the Jewish
> messiah, and
> > it is easy to see that Jesus fulfilled none of these.
> >
> > >but there are direct quotes from the Bible that say
> > > specifically that the Messiah was supposed to show up in 32 AD,
> >
> > Yes, *a messiah,* NOT Jesus. If you're referring to Daniel 9:25-26, the
> > *cut-off messiah* is the high priest Alexander Yannai. I have provided
this
> > proof on several occasions, the most recent being less than 2 weeks ago
on
> > this (SCJ) forum. The proof may also be found on the Jews for Judaism
> > website, if I am not mistaken.
> > Best regards,
> > ---Cindy S.
>
> OK Cindy. Hate to do this to you, but...
>
> Born of a virgin (Isaiah 7:14
The Hebrew word is "almah" (young woman) not "betulah" (virgin) and that is
just for starters.
You can cut and paste lists of all your verses and so-called prophecies
(including the Christian bible which is irrelevant to Jews) until you're
blue in the face, and it won't change the fact that Jesus did not fulfill
the requirements for being the Jewish messiah.
Best regards,
---Cindy S.
Julie d'Aubigny
>
> That's one, but you really need to try harder if you're going to get
> thoroughly hooked. You need to also take a swipe at academia
> (preferably at the same time including more misspellings,
> ungrammatical sentences, and odd punctuation) and you need to say
> something meany-headed about tech writers. Only then will I consider
> you to have been trolled.
>
> Hop to it!
Wow, you *truly* have standards! I can respect that.
Speaking of those standards, someone flamed me with a swipe at academia
that included misspellings, ungrammatical sentences, and maybe some odd
punctuation in a Diablo 2 thread. Should I tell the him that HHBT? I may
have been trying to provoke him through deliberate use of the
Architect's speech to construct my post, but I haven't yet been able to
determine if this was my true motivation.
--
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Susan Cohen
news:<XOsrb.49378$ji3....@twister.nyroc.rr.com>...
> Correct. The site clearly lists the requirements for the Jewish
> messiah, and
> > it is easy to see that Jesus fulfilled none of these.
> >
> > >but there are direct quotes from the Bible that say
> > > specifically that the Messiah was supposed to show up in 32 AD,
> >
> > Yes, *a messiah,* NOT Jesus. If you're referring to Daniel 9:25-26, the
> > *cut-off messiah* is the high priest Alexander Yannai. I have provided
this
> > proof on several occasions, the most recent being less than 2 weeks ago
on
> > this (SCJ) forum. The proof may also be found on the Jews for Judaism
> > website, if I am not mistaken.
> > Best regards,
> > ---Cindy S.
>
> OK Cindy. Hate to do this to you, but...
I *don't* hate to do this to you...
>
> Born of a virgin (Isaiah 7:14;
Not the word that means "never had sex before", but the word that means "not
had a child before"
> Matthew 1:21-23)
Irrelevent - if only because you can't use a book to prove itself (unless
you want to be laughed at)
> A descendant of Abraham (Genesis 12:1-3; 22:18;
> Matthew 1:1; Galatians > 3:16)
Irrelevent (see above)
> Of the tribe of Judah (Genesis 49:10; Luke 3:23, 33; Hebrews 7:14)
Which lets Jesus out, as you all say his father was G-d.
> Of the house of David (2 Samuel 7:12-16; Matthew 1:1)
See above.
Even you should be able to figure this out by now.
Susan
Roy Jose Lorr
cindys wrote:
Its "missionizing" only when done to those who haven't yet
accepted the mission. Complaining about it only raises a
big sign saying come and get me.
--
The last stage of
utopian sentimentalism
is homicidal mania.
cindys
"Roy Jose Lorr" <moses...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:3FB007AC...@worldnet.att.net...
Not always. Believe it or not, there are Christians out there who actually
believe that everyone shares their attitude about missionizing (that it's
welcome and a good thing). Many of them find it surprising that Jews do not
missionize and would not find it offensive if we did. I realize that I will
probably not stop this Shambat goon, but I want to make the Jewish position
perfectly clear to anyone else who, in all innocence, may have mistakenly
believed that a little missionizing on the Jewish group seemed like a good
idea. Jews do not missionize. We do not want anyone to missionize to us.
Why?
Any Jew who *accepts* Jesus or or directs a prayer to him or uses him as an
intermediary is a heretic, a sinner, an apostate, and an idol worshipper who
has completely rejected the Jewish religion, faith, culture, and people.
Such a person loses all the rights and privileges of being a Jew along with
his place in the World to Come. Such a person remains a Jew in name only,
and the only thing left to him (as a Jew) is his obligation to repent of his
sin. This is according to Jewish law and is not a matter of opinion. The
Reform movement, which does not follow Jewish law, holds that any Jew who
accepts Jesus is no longer Jewish at all.
Best regards,
---Cindy S.
Kingbarry2000
news:u62oqvk0tedsho6so...@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 07 Nov 2003 21:01:48 GMT, cupcake <t...@r.slrup> wrote:
>
> >> Re: Proof that Jesus is not the Messiah
> >>
> >> From: "cindys" <cst...@rochester.rr.com>
> >> Reply to: [1]"cindys"
> >> Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2003 20:56:32 GMT
> >> Organization: Road Runner
> >> [2]alt.angst,
> >> [3]alt.religion.hindu,
> >> [4]talk.religion.buddhism,
> >> [5]soc.culture.jewish,
> >> [6]alt.religion.kibology
> >> Followup to: [7]newsgroups
> >> References:
> >> [8]<154fc2cf.03110...@posting.google.com>
> >>
> >>> [10]http://www.messianic-prophecy.net/
> >>---Cindy S.
> >
> >
> > hi Cindy,
> >
> > i see yer still fighting the Good Fight
>
> See that list of newsgroup up there, Cindy? Do you see one or two that
> aren't like the others? Do you think maybe your "Good Fight" might be
> out of place in those groups?
>
>
> ITYM, "Go, girl. Soon. Anywhere but here."
>
This is Usenet Kevin, not your bathroom.
--
This is Usenet. Keep yer head up.
Kingbarry2000
> On Fri, 07 Nov 2003 21:09:47 GMT, cupcake <t...@r.slrup> wrote:
>
> >>Tech Writer at a University Somewhere in Idaho
> >>
>
> thoroughly hooked. You need to also take a swipe at academia
> (preferably at the same time including more misspellings,
> ungrammatical sentences, and odd punctuation) and you need to say
> something meany-headed about tech writers. Only then will I consider
> you to have been trolled.
>
> Hop to it!
>
Not very teckie for a supposed writer.
Kingbarry2000
> On Sat, 08 Nov 2003 00:44:46 GMT, cupcake <t...@r.slrup> wrote:
> >>> no -- these are all issues that you need to educate
> >>> yourself about, yu little moron
> >>>
> >>
> >>No, these issues don't concern anyone except Christians and those they
try
> >>to convert. It has no bearing on Buddhism and Hinduism, to name just
two
> >>newsgroups. Those who desire to be "educated" regarding these issues
would
> >>visit Christian and Jewish newsgroups.
> >>
> > well, then why don't you juzt go and sit on the other
> > side of the room with yer little moron friend, 'kay
> >
> Let us pause now to contemplate the mind-boggling arrogance of someone
> who can say, without a trace of irony, that other people need to be
> educated about spiritual matters.
>
> Is the gruel tasty in the camp you have in mind for us all?
>
Very boring reply. 1/10 for effort, 0 for content.
Try and be entertaining when you post please.
cindys
"Kingbarry2000" <kingbar...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:oMVrb.362813$pl3.347617@pd7tw3no...
As far as I'm concerned, none of those newsgroups is like the other, and
what they all have in common is that Christian missionizing doesn't belong
in any of them.
Best regards,
---Cindy S.
Anthony
mind.
Anthony
"Kevin S. Wilson" <res...@spro.net> wrote in message
news:sbpsqv49kibscv59n...@4ax.com...
Stephenls
> No, I'm a nerd, which is a rank above a geek. *LOL*
One rank below, actually. A nerd is just a geek with fewer social skills.
--
Stephenls
Geek
"That was the funnest coma ever." -Willow
Jeremy D. Impson
> Anthony wrote:
>
> > No, I'm a nerd, which is a rank above a geek. *LOL*
>
> One rank below, actually. A nerd is just a geek with fewer social skills.
Yesh. Geeks have passion; nerds have dandruff.
--Jeremy
--
Jeremy Impson
jdimpson can be contacted at acm dot org
http://impson.tzo.com/~jdimpson
Ben Wolfson
Jeremy D. Impson wrote:
>On Mon, 10 Nov 2003, Stephenls wrote:
>
>> Anthony wrote:
>>
>> > No, I'm a nerd, which is a rank above a geek. *LOL*
>>
>> One rank below, actually. A nerd is just a geek with fewer social skills.
>
>Yesh. Geeks have passion; nerds have dandruff.
I have neither dandruff nor passion. Yet I am certainly not cool.
HOW YOU GONNA DEAL WITH THAT WEll SMARTEY mANS?!!!!!!11 YUO CAN
TAKE YOUR SNOOTY LITTLE "SOCIUL CLASS RANKNING SYSTEM" and BASH IT UP YOUR
CAKEHOLE!!!1!!1 Cause here in AMERICA we use the CAPITALIST NUMABR
SYSTEM!!!TWO!
The NERVE OF SOME PEOPLE!!!! I DON'T KNOW who yuou think YOU
ARE!!!!!11!
Roy Jose Lorr
cindys wrote:
Actually, Cindy, what I wrote was tongue in cheek. I like putting out
a come and get me sign for missionaries to trip over. I do it all the
time... could be my trademark, so to speak.
S.J. Klein
>http://www.messianic-prophecy.net/
So, in one of my Graphic Design classes, one of the things we just got
done doing is designing a Holiday card for people on the Portland
Community College mailing list. There are 14 students in the section,
and we all do one piece each, and a faculty commission decides between
five of them which are sent on to the Big Kollege Kahuna who does the
final deciding.
Now, since these go out to people of every known creed and mythos, so
it has to be value-neutral (aka "politically correct"): it must express
a generic holiday good will message and somehow be as far away from
charged symbols (I think even a dove holding an olive branch is suspect)
as possible. It usually centers on "Happy Holidays", celebrating
community and diversity. Buzzwords from the college's mission statement
("We Like Missions and will visit California soon") go a long way.
Understand that I'm not complaining. I believe that tolerant speech
would go a long way toward preventing our mutually exclusive creeds
from annihliating each other, and are praisworthy as a thing. So, I'm for
it. But, as Bill Cosby once said, I told you *that* story to tell you this
one.
So, we're looking at the examples from years past to get some sort of grasp
of how to approach the design. Now, it's helpful to know that the prior
President of our fine intustition of huger edumacation was Hispanic by
extraction (or birth, even) (and still is, so far as is known) and
was known by the name Dr. Jess Carreon.
His first given name was...
...wait for it...
...Jesus.
So, here am I, looking through these cards, mindful that we are to make them
as culturally average and politcally correct as possible, and here are all thesepast cards with best wishes from Jesus.
The irony was so thick and chunky it ran for City Council. In Oregon, it's got
a chance to be elected because it wants to limit property taxes.
And, there was I, wondering aloud how we were supposed to do value-neutral cards
when Jesus has been signing them for the last few years.
Sam Klein reverently at ea...@agora.rdrop.com.
As for Jesus, he's gone on to San Antonio. Apparently he has family there.
Who knew?
--
Samuel J Klein Reply-to:eagle(at)agora.rdrop.com
Hompeage at www.rdrop.com/users/eagle - The SunDial Earth Station
Better living through the Lambert Conformal Projection
Der kosmische Schmetterling
Ben Wolfson
>In article <Pine.LNX.4.44.031110...@monster.apt.net>,
>Jeremy D. Impson wrote:
>>On Mon, 10 Nov 2003, Stephenls wrote:
>>
>>> Anthony wrote:
>>>
>>> > No, I'm a nerd, which is a rank above a geek. *LOL*
>>>
>>> One rank below, actually. A nerd is just a geek with fewer social skills.
>>
>>Yesh. Geeks have passion; nerds have dandruff.
>
>I have neither dandruff nor passion. Yet I am certainly not cool.
>HOW YOU GONNA DEAL WITH THAT WEll SMARTEY mANS?!!!!!!11 YUO CAN
>TAKE YOUR SNOOTY LITTLE "SOCIUL CLASS RANKNING SYSTEM" and BASH IT UP YOUR
>CAKEHOLE!!!1!!1 Cause here in AMERICA we use the CAPITALIST NUMABR
>SYSTEM!!!TWO!
>
>The NERVE OF SOME PEOPLE!!!! I DON'T KNOW who yuou think YOU
>ARE!!!!!11!
Yeah, Luke Breinig and Richard Thompson do this better than me.
Jeremy D. Impson
> In article <Pine.LNX.4.44.031110...@monster.apt.net>,
> Jeremy D. Impson wrote:
> >On Mon, 10 Nov 2003, Stephenls wrote:
> >
> >> Anthony wrote:
> >>
> >> > No, I'm a nerd, which is a rank above a geek. *LOL*
> >>
> >> One rank below, actually. A nerd is just a geek with fewer social skills.
> >
> >Yesh. Geeks have passion; nerds have dandruff.
>
> I have neither dandruff nor passion. Yet I am certainly not cool.
> HOW YOU GONNA DEAL WITH THAT WEll SMARTEY mANS?!!!!!!11 YUO CAN
> TAKE YOUR SNOOTY LITTLE "SOCIUL CLASS RANKNING SYSTEM" and BASH IT UP YOUR
> CAKEHOLE!!!1!!1 Cause here in AMERICA we use the CAPITALIST NUMABR
> SYSTEM!!!TWO!
>
> The NERVE OF SOME PEOPLE!!!! I DON'T KNOW who yuou think YOU
> ARE!!!!!11!
Ha ha. You're post clearly PROVES that you have dandruff.
Julie d'Aubigny
>
> Anthony wrote:
>
> > No, I'm a nerd, which is a rank above a geek. *LOL*
>
> One rank below, actually. A nerd is just a geek with fewer social skills.
Stephenls should know. He's an EXPERT. He was in a world-famous
documentary about geeks.
(and lest it be unclear, I agree with him)
Rich Holmes
> Fixed oh wise one http://home.btconnect.com/kibo/churchsign1.jpg
I still wanna see if Joe Bay can come up with a version of humping
dogs suitable for a 4-line, restricted character set church sign.
Even Australia, or Bart Simpson, would be kind of OK.
--
- Doctroid Doctroid Holmes <http://www.richholmes.net/doctroid/>
"IE should let web pages use your credit card to buy five tons of gravel!"
"IE should let web pages give you a wedgie and paint Smurfs on your face!"
- Dag and Manfire
Susan Cohen
>
> We do not want anyone to missionize to us.
> Why?
>
> Any Jew who *accepts* Jesus or or directs a prayer to him or uses him as
an
> intermediary is a heretic, a sinner, an apostate, and an idol worshipper
who
> has completely rejected the Jewish religion, faith, culture, and people.
That & the fact that missionizing is rude, arrogant & bigoted.
To missionize is to assume that not only is your religion superior, but that
everyone else is interested in hearing about it, *&* should also switch to
it.
Susan
jonah thomas
> "IB Shambat" <ibsham...@yahoo.com> wrote
<ilya stuff>
> But more to the point, stop missionizing
> Christianity on the Jewish newsgroup. Keep it on the Christian group where
> it belongs.
You seem to be a little unclear on the concept. Reasonably enough,
given what you want.
Nobody likes to have their newsgroups spammed. So, say we set up a
spammer's newsgroup and ask all the spammers to post there only. Would
it do any good?
Evangelical christians believe that it's their duty to spam nonchristian
religious groups, and groups of atheists, etc. They believe that Jesus
told them to preach to everybody. If they restricted themselves to
christian newsgroups that would be like *preaching to the choir*.
Telling evangelical christians not to spam your newsgroup is like
telling birds not to fly south for the winter. They just can't hear it.
But I guess, go ahead if it makes you feel better. Spamming our
newsgroups telling birds not to migrate is no worse than what some other
birdbrains are doing.
leo sgouros
It seems like only one person did this and we have all kinds of
responses to it as if lots of people were "missionizing".Am I wrong and
were there others?Otherwise, let it drop, we got the point.
'kay?
Leo
Susan Cohen
"jonah thomas" <j2th...@cavtel.net> wrote in message
news:HPrsb.765$su.1...@news.uswest.net...
> cindys wrote:
> > "IB Shambat" <ibsham...@yahoo.com> wrote
>
> <ilya stuff>
>
> > But more to the point, stop missionizing
> > Christianity on the Jewish newsgroup. Keep it on the Christian group
where
> > it belongs.
>
> You seem to be a little unclear on the concept.
No, we're not.
We know what they want.
We don't care, & we are in the right.
The bigoted arrogance aside, it's Off Topic for scj.
Reasonably enough,
> given what you want.
>
> Nobody likes to have their newsgroups spammed. So, say we set up a
> spammer's newsgroup and ask all the spammers to post there only. Would
> it do any good?
>
This is why one reports spammers.
Like missionizers in Jewish groups.
> Evangelical christians believe that it's their duty to spam nonchristian
> religious groups, and groups of atheists, etc.
& most ISPs do not give a damn *why* their customers decide to violate
Usenet rules.
This is the basic point we are making.
We know what they want.
We don't care, & we are in the right.
The bigoted arrogance aside, it's Off Topic for scj.
Susan
Susan Cohen
"leo sgouros" <hpa...@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:3FB26582...@comcast.net...
>
>
> It seems like only one person did this and we have all kinds of
> responses to it as if lots of people were "missionizing".Am I wrong
You are wrong in general.
We get this crap all the time.
We are giving the standard answer.
Susan
leo sgouros
...to the wrong people,no Kibologist I know of is doing it, and I myself
am a christian and dont do it.Look at the title of this thread,
Susan.Thats some missionizing subject, aint it?(sarcasm)
This is my only response, you can have the last word.
Bye now,
Leo
cindys
The original poster crossposted to all of those groups. The original name of
the thread was "Evidence that Jesus is the Messiah." I am the one who
changed the name of the thread. I do that often. I also eliminated a lot of
the crossposted groups (there were a lot more). In answer to you first
question, Christians missionize to the Jewish newsgroup all the time. On any
given day, I would say that we average at least 3. Some of them are very
persistent and argue that their *need* to missionize supercedes our right to
live our Jewish lives, free from others trying to push their religion on us.
Perhaps some of them mistakenly believe that their missionizing is welcome.
We let them know it is not. Thank you for not doing it.
Best regards,
---Cindy S.
Kevin S. Wilson
wrote:
>I am the one who
>changed the name of the thread. I do that often.
Then you are often a rude bozo.
>I also eliminated a lot of
>the crossposted groups (there were a lot more).
Yet you left in alt.religion.kibology. Why? Are you fond of being
mocked and taunted?
--
Kevin S. Wilson
Tech Writer at a University Somewhere in Idaho
"You can safely ignore Kevin in order to
maximise life's experience." --A. Loon, in alt.religion.kibology
cindys
> On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:45:54 GMT, "cindys" <cst...@rochester.rr.com>
> wrote:
>
> >I am the one who
> >changed the name of the thread. I do that often.
>
> Then you are often a rude bozo.
No. The rude bozo is the missionary who posted to the Jewish newsgroup in
the first place.
>
> >I also eliminated a lot of
> >the crossposted groups (there were a lot more).
>
> Yet you left in alt.religion.kibology. Why? Are you fond of being
> mocked and taunted?
I left it in because Leo was posting from there. I was answering his
question. How would he have seen my answer if I eliminated the crosspost?
Best regards,
---Cindy S.
Madge
Leo as we all know moves in mysterious ways. He would've known even if
you had posted it to Santa.
Beable van Polasm
>
> As far as I'm concerned, none of those newsgroups is like the other,
> and what they all have in common is that Christian missionizing
> doesn't belong in any of them.
What about "Kibological missionizing"? Is that acceptable in any of
those newsgroups? Because kibology is like one of those big box things
fully of buzzy buzzy bees. If you keep poking your stick into that
box, eventually those buzzy buzzy bees are going to buzz on out of
there and start missionizing like anything. And it's very hard to
resist Kibological missionizing! Our branewashing techniques leave
people with the shiniest sparkliest branes in the whole wide world!!
And once the HiveMind module is inserted, RESiSTANCE IS FUTILE!!
--
Orange cones, OTOH, can be extremely erotic. -- Paula Tobler
<-o-> --< >-- |-<>-|
http://beable.com/
The Avocado Avenger
> We don't care, & we are in the right.
> The bigoted arrogance aside, it's Off Topic for scj.
At least you realize you're being bigoted and arrogant.
> & most ISPs do not give a damn *why* their customers decide to violate
> Usenet rules.
There's a few extree words in there, I think. Also, I like the
concept of "Usenet rules". Where could I find these rules, then? To
make sure I'm following them, you see.
> We don't care, & we are in the right.
> The bigoted arrogance aside, it's Off Topic for scj.
Did you know you cut and pasted a whole paragraph from the beginning
of the post and repeated it here? Because it looks kind of stupid. But
if you meant to do it, well, that's different.
Stacia
David O'Lantern
> On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:45:54 GMT, "cindys" <cst...@rochester.rr.com>
> wrote:
>
> >I also eliminated a lot of
> >the crossposted groups (there were a lot more).
>
> Yet you left in alt.religion.kibology. Why?
> Are you fond of being mocked and taunted?
I am! Mock me baby, mock me hard!
Tauntably,
D.
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The Revd Terence Fformby-Smythe
>Suzy
What's the standard Irish answer, then?
The Revd Terence Fformby-Smythe
>Suzy
Why are you even on SCJ? You're an Irish shitske, for fuck's sake.
jonah thomas
> "Kevin S. Wilson" <res...@spro.net> wrote
>>Let us pause now to contemplate the mind-boggling arrogance of someone
>>who can say, without a trace of irony, that other people need to be
>>educated about spiritual matters.
>>Is the gruel tasty in the camp you have in mind for us all?
> Very boring reply. 1/10 for effort, 0 for content.
> Try and be entertaining when you post please.
Another boring reply. 0/10 for effort, 1 for content.
Try to be entertaining when you post, please.
Somebody a long time ago said to remove the beam from your own eye
before you tell somebody else to remove their splinter. But what about
the guy with the sequoyah tree in his eye, should he remove it before he
tells the guy with the beam?
jonah thomas
> "cindys" <cst...@rochester.rr.com> wrote
>>Any Jew who *accepts* Jesus or or directs a prayer to him or uses him as
>>an intermediary is a heretic, a sinner, an apostate, and an idol worshipper
>>who has completely rejected the Jewish religion, faith, culture, and people.
> That & the fact that missionizing is rude, arrogant & bigoted.
> To missionize is to assume that not only is your religion superior, but that
> everyone else is interested in hearing about it, *&* should also switch to
> it.
Yes! If you are rude, arrogant, bigoted, and you think your religion is
superior, far better to keep it to yourself.
jonah thomas
> "jonah thomas" <j2th...@cavtel.net> wrote
>>Nobody likes to have their newsgroups spammed. So, say we set up a
>>spammer's newsgroup and ask all the spammers to post there only. Would
>>it do any good?
> This is why one reports spammers.
> Like missionizers in Jewish groups.
Do you have a moderated newsgroup? If not, why not?
>>Evangelical christians believe that it's their duty to spam nonchristian
>>religious groups, and groups of atheists, etc.
> & most ISPs do not give a damn *why* their customers decide to violate
> Usenet rules.
> This is the basic point we are making.
> We know what they want.
> We don't care, & we are in the right.
> The bigoted arrogance aside, it's Off Topic for scj.
If it isn't a moderated newsgroup, what individual is responsible for
deciding what is off topic?
Rich Holmes
> Did you know you cut and pasted a whole paragraph from the beginning
> of the post and repeated it here? Because it looks kind of stupid. But
> if you meant to do it, well, that's different.
That's the chorus, silly:
The Bigoted Arrogance Aside
lyrics by Susan Cohen, Jonah Thomas, and Cindys
jonah thomas wrote
cindys wrote:
But more to the point, stop missionizing
Keep it on the Christian group
where it belongs.
You seem to be a little unclear on the concept.
No, we're not.
We know what they want.
We don't care, and we are in the right.
The bigoted arrogance aside
It's Off Topic for scj.
Reasonably enough, given what you want.
Nobody likes to have their newsgroups spammed.
So, say we set up a spammer's newsgroup
and ask all the spammers to post there only.
Would it do any good?
This is why one reports spammers.
Like missionizers in Jewish groups.
Evangelical christians believe
It's their duty to spam nonchristian
Religious groups, groups of atheists,
Et cetera
And most ISPs do not give a damn
*Why* their customers decide
To violate Usenet rules.
This is the basic point we are making.
We know what they want.
We don't care, and we are in the right.
The bigoted arrogance aside
It's Off Topic for scj.
cindys
> Susan Cohen wrote:
> > "cindys" <cst...@rochester.rr.com> wrote
>
> >>Any Jew who *accepts* Jesus or or directs a prayer to him or uses him as
> >>an intermediary is a heretic, a sinner, an apostate, and an idol
worshipper
> >>who has completely rejected the Jewish religion, faith, culture, and
people.
>
> > That & the fact that missionizing is rude, arrogant & bigoted.
> > To missionize is to assume that not only is your religion superior, but
that
> > everyone else is interested in hearing about it, *&* should also switch
to
> > it.
>
> Yes! If you are rude, arrogant, bigoted, and you think your religion is
> superior, far better to keep it to yourself.
Absolutely. So, now I hope Christians will stop missionizing to the Jewish
newsgroup.
Best regards,
---Cindy S.
Susan Cohen
> superior, far better to keep it to yourself.
Yes - that is our point exactly!!
Susan
Susan Cohen
> Susan Cohen wrote:
> > "jonah thomas" <j2th...@cavtel.net> wrote
>
> >>Nobody likes to have their newsgroups spammed. So, say we set up a
> >>spammer's newsgroup and ask all the spammers to post there only. Would
> >>it do any good?
>
> > This is why one reports spammers.
> > Like missionizers in Jewish groups.
>
> Do you have a moderated newsgroup? If not, why not?
Yes, we do - but that has nothing to do with the fact that if something is
off-topic, it's off-topic.
>
> >>Evangelical christians believe that it's their duty to spam nonchristian
> >>religious groups, and groups of atheists, etc.
>
> > & most ISPs do not give a damn *why* their customers decide to violate
> > Usenet rules.
>
> > This is the basic point we are making.
> > We know what they want.
> > We don't care, & we are in the right.
> > The bigoted arrogance aside, it's Off Topic for scj.
>
> If it isn't a moderated newsgroup, what individual is responsible for
> deciding what is off topic?
Only the most arrogant bigot would assume that "soc.culture.jewish" has
*anything* to do with missionizing.
Susan
>
HarCo Industries
> On Wed, 12 Nov 2003, Kevin S. Wilson wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 18:45:54 GMT, "cindys" <cst...@rochester.rr.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >I also eliminated a lot of
> > >the crossposted groups (there were a lot more).
> >
> > Yet you left in alt.religion.kibology. Why?
> > Are you fond of being mocked and taunted?
>
> I am! Mock me baby, mock me hard!
>
> Tauntably,
> D.
That'll be 20 bucks, please.
Kevin S. Wilson
wrote:
>If it isn't a moderated newsgroup, what individual is responsible for
>deciding what is off topic?
I do.
Next question?
Ben Allard
> That'll be 20 bucks, please.
Look, *I* came here for an argument! Also, is this the point where I start
typing song lyrics?
--
Ben
Besides, Finns don't have evil twins, they have happy twins. --Ben Wolfson
Who commit anti-suicide and spring themselves into cheerful, sober
existence. Seems logical enough to me. --Andrew Pearson
robert lindsay
<wol...@uchicago.edu> wrote:
> In article <slrnbr0ovk....@abyss.cs.uchicago.edu>, Ben Wolfson wrote:
> >In article <Pine.LNX.4.44.031110...@monster.apt.net>,
> >Jeremy D. Impson wrote:
> >>On Mon, 10 Nov 2003, Stephenls wrote:
> >>
> >>> Anthony wrote:
> >>>
> >>> > No, I'm a nerd, which is a rank above a geek. *LOL*
> >>>
> >>> One rank below, actually. A nerd is just a geek with fewer social skills.
> >>
> >>Yesh. Geeks have passion; nerds have dandruff.
> >
> >I have neither dandruff nor passion. Yet I am certainly not cool.
> >HOW YOU GONNA DEAL WITH THAT WEll SMARTEY mANS?!!!!!!11 YUO CAN
> >TAKE YOUR SNOOTY LITTLE "SOCIUL CLASS RANKNING SYSTEM" and BASH IT UP YOUR
> >CAKEHOLE!!!1!!1 Cause here in AMERICA we use the CAPITALIST NUMABR
> >SYSTEM!!!TWO!
> >
> >The NERVE OF SOME PEOPLE!!!! I DON'T KNOW who yuou think YOU
> >ARE!!!!!11!
>
> Yeah, Luke Breinig and Richard Thompson do this better than me.
It was OK until you followed up you own post, which is sort of like
cheering yourself while masturbating.
--
The time passes like a healthy stool - topato potato
The Avocado Avenger
> "jonah thomas" <j2th...@cavtel.net> wrote:
> > Susan Cohen wrote:
> >
> > > & most ISPs do not give a damn *why* their customers decide to violate
> > > Usenet rules.
> >
> > > This is the basic point we are making.
> > > We know what they want.
> > > We don't care, & we are in the right.
> > > The bigoted arrogance aside, it's Off Topic for scj.
> >
> > If it isn't a moderated newsgroup, what individual is responsible for
> > deciding what is off topic?
>
> Only the most arrogant bigot would assume that "soc.culture.jewish" has
> *anything* to do with missionizing.
Hi. Yeah, okay. Uh, where are these Usenet rules? The ones so many
are supposedly all violating and stuff? Those things? Where are they?
Any time you want to show us the Usenet rules, Susan. It's all you,
baby!
Stacia
Joebruno
> "IB Shambat" <ibsham...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:154fc2cf.03110...@posting.google.com...
> > http://www.messianic-prophecy.net/
> -----------
> Proof that Jesus is not the messiah: www.jewsforjudaism.org
>
> Best regards,
> ---Cindy S.
You are dealing with a matter of faith here, so your attempt to prove
anything is doomed to failure. I doubt what you or anyone else says
will change anyone's mind on the subject.
All the world's religions think theirs is the true path, but none of
them can prove it to the point where the other faiths will disappear.
Susan Cohen
"Joebruno" <br...@indystart.com> wrote in message
news:bf3896a1.03111...@posting.google.com...
>
> You are dealing with a matter of faith here, so your attempt to prove
> anything is doomed to failure.
The point is that if they post their views on our group where it is
off-topic at the least, & arrogant & rude at worst, they have to expect that
someone is going to "return the favor." I suppose if Cindy didn't change
the header, I might have.
Susan
Susan Cohen
"The Avocado Avenger" <sta...@io.com> wrote in message
news:3FB43934...@io.com...
Amazing how one can answer the question, only to have another idiot pop up &
ask for it again.
Susan
The Revd Terence Fformby-Smythe
<fla...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>"jonah thomas" <j2th...@cavtel.net> wrote in message
>news:BzLsb.4$As5....@news.uswest.net...
>> Susan Cohen wrote:
>> > "jonah thomas" <j2th...@cavtel.net> wrote
>>
>> >>Nobody likes to have their newsgroups spammed. So, say we set up a
>> >>spammer's newsgroup and ask all the spammers to post there only. Would
>> >>it do any good?
>>
>> > This is why one reports spammers.
>> > Like missionizers in Jewish groups.
>>
>> Do you have a moderated newsgroup? If not, why not?
>
>Yes, we do - but that has nothing to do with the fact that if something is
>off-topic, it's off-topic.
soc.culture.irish.moderated?
Kevin S. Wilson
wrote:
If you want to play, you'll have to phrase your response as a
question.
Ben Allard
> "The Avocado Avenger" <sta...@io.com> wrote in message
> news:3FB43934...@io.com...
>> Any time you want to show us the Usenet rules, Susan. It's all you,
>> baby!
>
> Amazing how one can answer the question, only to have another idiot
> pop up & ask for it again.
In that case, I'm happy to inform you, Susan Cohan (if that IS your real
name!), that by wilfully posting to Alt.Religion.Kibology you agreed to the
implicit mandatory verbal contract to answer any and all idiots' questions,
which you are now obligated to do due to the LAW of USENET! You could tell
our froup was under the mandate of the Law of Usenet since our FAQ is
fringed with gold tassels, if YOU HAD BOTHERED TO READ IT BEFORE SPAMMING
US! In fact, not reading a FAQ before posting is a violation of the Usenet
TOS or AUP (whichever is applicable may depend on your ISP) and can result
in getting your Usenet connection cut! Consider yourself reported.
Jacob W. Haller
> I saw no post from you explaining where the Usenet rules are. Are you
> lying again, Susan, or did you not bother to post your explanation to
> all the newsgroups in which the question was asked?
See, the problem is that the first rule of USENET Club is that you're
never supposed to talk about the first rule of USENET Club, which means
that whenever anyone starts asking what the rules of USENET are everyone
sort of looks at each other uncomfortably for a while and then, if
you're lucky, someone turns out to be a rogue AI with the sparks and the
exploding heads and all. It's a good party trick but it's not really
conducive to a polite and speedy transfer of information.
IGNORANCE OF THE RULES IS NO EXCUSE FOR IGNORANCE OF THE RULES!
-jwgh
--
'The strip is beautiful, btw. I laughed, I cried, I showed it to a
friend, the friend said "I don't get it," I laughed.'
-- Reid Orsten, 27 August 2003