This is a very healthy family feud.
Thunder
I believe that the shootouts are necessary to the social development
of the entire Bahai polity beyond its current cultish thralldom to the
AO.
--The AO will never give us real democracy.
--The AO will never, as an old boy's club, give us factual
information, nor allow us an "independent investigation of the truth".
There can be no rectification of the BF, since the AO does not
consider individual Bahais and their supporters as anything more than
conduits to its policies, manifesting varying degrees of reliability.
So, in TRB, the Bahai polity makes its own democracy. It shares its
own information, and it conducts its own fights.
Maybe hate, love and humor all serve the cause of human liberation.
In TRB, I see the good, the bad and the ugly. But I see the only God
that I will ever know in this life.
The social boil has been lanced by digital technology.
Oozing pus and bleeding are the pre-requisites to healing.
But what is the healing for?
That should be the central topic here, I believe.
What do we want? (Revenge/Vindication)?
What do we want? (Social rebellion and overthrow)?
What do we want? (An untroubled sleep)?
And from whom do we want it?
Who has the power?
--wm pleasant
Freethought110
> What do we want? (Revenge/Vindication)?
For me, yes. I am here doing what I do to take revenge on behalf of
the Eternal Fruit and the Essence of the Seven Letter's against these
corrupt fascist usurpers and to vindicate the TRUE Bayani Cause and
Revolution for historical posterity which thousands innocently died
for and who had nothing to do with baha'ism, and whom the baha'i
cultists have falsely appropriated in their PR propaganda for over 100
years. Let's face it, all this talk baha'is blabber endlessly on about
regarding their martyrs is utter BS when the actually facts are
examined carefully. Baha'is have hardly given any martyrs in Iran. If
you actually count all those calling themselves baha'is who were
killed from the time Mirza Husayn Ali Nuri made his bogus claim to
present, you will count in actual fact no more tha 500 people tops.
300 from 1868 to 1979. 200 plus from 1979-85. All those baha'is who
died at the hands of the mullahs died because of some financial reason
having to do with corruption and fraudulent racketeering schemes of
those wealthy baha'is tied to the Shah and SAVAK who cut and run and
left these people to die in their stead. And this has been the TRUE
reasons from the beginning, whether those two merchant brothers in
Isfahan dubbed the beloved of martyrs and the king of martyrs who had
financially bamboozled the Governor of Fars, playing with fire and
getting a a fatwa thrown their way by the Governor's friend the Imam
Jomeh (immortalized as the Son of the Wolf by Husayn Ali), or whether
all those who were put before the firing squad and mullah's noose in
the early days of the Khomeinist Islamic Counter-Revolution. All those
whom the mullahs killed weren't dying for a cause. They were dying for
all the sleazey financial shit the Hozhabr Yazdanis, Habib Sabets and
Karim Ayadis had pulled under the Pahlavis. Nothing less!
It was we, the Bayanis, who gave the martyrs. The thousands massacred
at Shaykh Tabarsi, Nayriz, Zanjan, Tehran and Takur by the mullahs and
Qajars weren't baha'is, they were ____Babis___, i.e. Bayanis. And
arguably had any of these people actually lived, none of them would
have followed that idle pretender, antichrist, murderer, corrupt and
false claimant Mirza Husayn Ali Nuri Baha'u-Shaytan (la'antullah
`aleyh).
> What do we want? (Social rebellion and overthrow)?
Yes. The end of fascism and cultism tout court is the Goal, whether
that of the mullahs and Islamist fundalooniests in the Mid East or
whether the one on Mt Carmel in Zionistan!
Wahid Azal
Dermod Ryder
"Thunder" <longl...@lycos.com> wrote in message
news:7b3b198.04071...@posting.google.com...
> In TRB, I see the good, the bad and the ugly.
Me, you and Nima!
Paul Hammond
> longl...@lycos.com (Thunder) wrote in message
>
> > What do we want? (Revenge/Vindication)?
>
> For me, yes. I am here doing what I do to take revenge on behalf of
> the Eternal Fruit
Ooh, ducky! Careful where you're pointing that thing. You'll
'ave someone's eye out with that, you will. Or at the very
least lance a boil best left unlanced!
Paul
Mr. Bad Judgement
Thunder wrote:
> TRB is indeed the Dodge City of the anglophone Bahai polity.
> I believe that the shootouts are necessary to the social development
> of the entire Bahai polity beyond its current cultish thralldom to the
> AO.
>
> --The AO will never give us real democracy.
> --The AO will never, as an old boy's club, give us factual
> information, nor allow us an "independent investigation of the truth".
>
> There can be no rectification of the BF, since the AO does not
> consider individual Bahais and their supporters as anything more than
> conduits to its policies, manifesting varying degrees of reliability.
>
> So, in TRB, the Bahai polity makes its own democracy. It shares its
> own information, and it conducts its own fights.
>
> Maybe hate, love and humor all serve the cause of human liberation.
>
> In TRB, I see the good, the bad and the ugly.
Thanks, William, and I see the Mr. Pleasant here.
- Mr. Bad
Susan Maneck
Isn't it a bit unusual for the publisher himself to review his author's work?
What did you charge Nima for this?
Are you staying away from egg salad these days?
warmest, Susan
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Dermod Ryder
"Susan Maneck " <sma...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040719213754...@mb-m10.aol.com...
> Hey Mr. Pleasant,
>
> Isn't it a bit unusual for the publisher himself to review his author's
work?
Somebody has to do it! Are you volunteering your services?
> What did you charge Nima for this?
Enough!
> Are you staying away from egg salad these days?
He'd do better avoiding barometers ... and possibly thermometers as well
Susan Maneck
>Somebody has to do it! Are you volunteering your services?
Sure, if I get sent a desk copy. ;-}
Freethought110
> Hey Mr. Pleasant,
>
> Isn't it a bit unusual for the publisher himself to review his author's >work?
No. The ABS does it all the time.
> What did you charge Nima for this?
Zip!
> Are you staying away from egg salad these days?
Doesn't need to. It's all on your faces...........
Thunder
I believe that you are an instructor at Jackson State University
(Jackson, Mississippi)--a part of the Mississippi university system? I
believe that, given your very low status in the academic mainstream,
you should be the least inclined to comment upon what is appropriate
for intellectuals to do anywhere at any time.
I would love to have you comment on the lawsuits against the
Mississippi university system where former students have demanded
tuition refunds because they were granted diplomas despite the fact
that they could neither read nor write. Can you spell Valley State,
Prof. Maneck?
In any event, I am not a party of your disrepectful chatter. You have
never been able or willing to deal with the substance of what I have
written here or on other "Bahai" bulletin boards that you seemingly
monitor. The intellectual proof of the pudding is in the eating, I
believe.
And when you, Prof. Maneck, step before the mainly Black students you
are charged with educating at JSU--some of them may wish to be
writers, by the way--inform them that contrary to what you had been
taught and what you had believed, writers do not pay publishers to
produce their books. Quite the opposite: publishers pay writers for
the right to produce and market their books. This usually takes the
form of what is called an ADVANCE.
So, Prof. Maneck, you are correct. Nima Hazini paid me "zip" to
publish his book. I paid Nima Hazini for the privilege to produce and
market his first book. It was a privilege.
--wm pleasant
freetho...@yahoo.com (Freethought110) wrote in message news:<83b59396.04071...@posting.google.com>...
Susan Maneck
>I believe that you are an instructor at Jackson State University
>(Jackson, Mississippi)--a part of the Mississippi university system?
I am an Associate Professor there.
>Can you spell Valley State,
>Prof. Maneck?
And this most impoverished HBC in the Missisippi system has what to do with the
price of tea in China?
>And when you, Prof. Maneck, step before the mainly Black students you
>are charged with educating at JSU--some of them may wish to be
>writers, by the way--inform them that contrary to what you had been
>taught and what you had believed, writers do not pay publishers to
>produce their books.
Oh, but that is exactly what the term "vanity press" means which is on your own
website. That is why Nima is so eager to represent University Press of Maryland
as one of those.
>So, Prof. Maneck, you are correct. Nima Hazini paid me "zip" to
>publish his book.
Since an ebook wouldn't cost anything, I suppose that is appropriate.
>I paid Nima Hazini for the privilege to produce and
>market his first book.
So how much did you pay him?
I guess a sucker is born every minute.
Freethought110
> I guess a sucker is born every minute.
Usually with the label "baha'i" attached.
Freethought110
> >I believe that you are an instructor at Jackson State University
> >(Jackson, Mississippi)--a part of the Mississippi university system?
>
> I am an Associate Professor there.
>
> >Can you spell Valley State,
> >Prof. Maneck?
>
> And this most impoverished HBC in the Missisippi system has what to do with the
> price of tea in China?
It has this to do: You are not even employed at a reputable teritiary institution.
> >And when you, Prof. Maneck, step before the mainly Black students you
> >are charged with educating at JSU--some of them may wish to be
> >writers, by the way--inform them that contrary to what you had been
> >taught and what you had believed, writers do not pay publishers to
> >produce their books.
>
> Oh, but that is exactly what the term "vanity press" means which is on your own
> website. That is why Nima is so eager to represent University Press of Maryland
> as one of those.
Because it is.