William Pleasant declares: "I WORSHIP NIMA !"
Thunder
NIMA is the self-sufficient, the all-knowing, the help in peril, the
all-compassionate, the unknowable essence...
And so am I.
What is the problem with you folks?
It's not about NIMA, it's about a specific cultural/political polity
that has been hijacked by a band of wannabe wahabis. That is a charge
that NIMA and I make--historically independent of each other and for
different reasons, derived from different experiences. It is an
indictment. Let us move forward to discovery and the trial to prove
myself, NIMA and thousands of other progressives developed from the
Babi/Bahai camp wrong. Let the Bahai Administrative Oligarchy
prosecute us in the open for "crimes" against goodness and light.
I passionately assert that if there is no free exchange of ideas--even
dumb ideas--and the right to free speech and assembly within the Bahai
context, then there can never be freedom nor democracy delivered on a
Bahai plate.
Am I "duped" by NIMA?
The suggestion, given my very public history--and that of my family
for 160 years in wilderness of the US South--is a racist insult.
I want to know why the US NSA (after two decades of my very public
raising hell against the criminality of the US government) feels
compelled to pick a fight with me now. I put it to the US NSA's
waterboy ABM K+++++, straight up. Why the confrontation now?
Viewing history, I can only conclude that the current attack on me is
fueled by my willingness to commercially publish NIMA's first book.
After all, I am a commercial publisher (http://www.newsavannah.com) .
That is my business. Somebody wants to politically interfere in my
business.
Stupidly, somebody at the US NSA believes that she/he has some power
of coercion over me.
She/he does not.
Why would Mr. K+++++, want to travel over 250 miles to meet with me?
To sling some Shoghi Effendi quotes at me to straighten me out?
PPPLLLEEEAAASSSEEE!
What could possibly be his demand of me--on behalf of the US NSA and
guess who? That I cease to be a pro-social leader among my
people--Black and white and otherwise--in The US South? That I pledge
obedience to the nazified Bush Regime and the next dempublicrat
successor regime? That I and other Bahais refrain from running in
non-partisan elections for public office? Does the US NSA wish to
convince me that its social practice is more attractive and socially
relevant than mine?
Those demands would be absurd, because the US NSA has known my answer
to them for 15 years. It has been simple: Fergidaboutit! Show me the
empirics.
The betrayal of the Southern Teaching Project is the US NSA's eternal
albatross. The US NSA has yet to answer to the charge of race and
class treason against the people of Georgia and South Carolina. We're
waiting...
Again, just for the record: NIMA IS LORD, MY GOD-- and so are you.
--wm pleasant
Hess
electation.
Hess
"Thunder" <longl...@lycos.com> wrote in message
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TahirihStarr*
> Yes, indeed, I worship NIMA before all visible and invisible gods.
> NIMA is the self-sufficient, the all-knowing, the help in peril, the
> all-compassionate, the unknowable essence...
>
> And so am I.
And so Am I. It is interesting that we who have been Baha'is and lived
the black and indigenous life (and in my case a female) are coming
together under Babism to call for Justice and Truth. We shall
overcome!
Tahirih-Qurratu'l-Ayn*
Mr. Bad Judgement
Thunder wrote:
> Yes, indeed, I worship NIMA before all visible and invisible gods.
> NIMA is the self-sufficient, the all-knowing, the help in peril, the
> all-compassionate, the unknowable essence...
>
Okay William, I believe you believe. BTW, the question here is about
Nima Hazini, not the Natioal Imagery and Mapping Agency.
I just figured you seemed like a somewhat perceptive person. I would
noat hve been guessed that you'd be swayed by BS, but by evidence, by
the facts on the ground, so to speak.
Nima hangs out here simply to pump in anything that he might think he
can interpret as adverse to the Baha'i Faith, and he wants to build up
his own reputation this way.
>
> And so am I.
>
> What is the problem with you folks?
I'm not the one with the god confusion.
> It's not about NIMA,
You just titled a message that you worship Nima, and proclaimed he is
the Nas, the Ras Tifar, etc. and so on.
> it's about a specific cultural/political polity
> that has been hijacked by a band of wannabe wahabis.
Yes and no. You have been distracted by focusing too closely. Though
your details may be correct that a good thing has gone wrong, under the
influence of rapacious pedagogs, this is actually the way the world
works at either a slow or a fast pace with just about everything of any
goodness or decency. He that you claim to worship is just another one
of these pedagogs seeking followers to manipulate, and influence.
> That is a charge
> that NIMA and I make--historically independent of each other and for
> different reasons, derived from different experiences.
William, that both you and Nima had independently asserted that the sun
seemed to rise in the east would not constitute a siginicant scientific
discovery. That you would like to see such influences or trends in any
given thing, again is not significant. Having read Marx, one can see
the power of the dialectical pardigm in understanding the forces of
history. Were both you and I to independently see that oil barons have
assimilated some of the attributes of medieveal monarchy, this was not
significant for _us_ to notice this, but it was significant for Marx to
notice this. Today, we have read 'Abdu'l Baha and we understand that
God sends the Manifestation to both correct the distortions of the
politicians and interpretations of theologians that have been layered
over the prior revelation. That we would see this, after it has been
pointed out, is not a surprise.
> It is an
> indictment. Let us move forward to discovery and the trial to prove
> myself, NIMA and thousands of other progressives developed from the
> Babi/Bahai camp wrong. Let the Bahai Administrative Oligarchy
> prosecute us in the open for "crimes" against goodness and light.
>
Why should you be prosecuted by the AO? You have professed Nima as God;
you are not a Baha'i. Therefore the Baha'i rules should not apply to
you. Get someone else to martyr you for Nima.
>
> I passionately assert that if there is no free exchange of ideas--even
> dumb ideas--and the right to free speech and assembly within the Bahai
> context, then there can never be freedom nor democracy delivered on a
> Bahai plate.
>
Fine. It makes sense to me, and it does not make you god, or Nima two gods.
>
> Am I "duped" by NIMA?
More likely you've duped him, but time will tell.
> The suggestion, given my very public history--and that of my family
> for 160 years in wilderness of the US South--is a racist insult.
>
I would think that your grandparents some years back have zippedy doo to
do w/ Nima being god, and whether or not you buy into that notion, but
that is just me.
>
> I want to know why the US NSA (after two decades of my very public
> raising hell against the criminality of the US government) feels
> compelled to pick a fight with me now.
I'm just taking a guess here, but, maybe they were unaware that you were
a Hazinahahi, and thought you were a bahoooveyeyey such that
bahoooooveyeyey rules applied to you. Of course, w/ padagogs, special
rules apply, the rules they choose for themselves. I think you know the
type.
> I put it to the US NSA's
> waterboy ABM K+++++, straight up. Why the confrontation now?
>
Straight up? Straight up we don't see ABMs posting here. If you've got
something straight up for an ABM, call her or him, or write them
straight up.
>
> Viewing history, I can only conclude that the current attack on me
What attack on you would that be? Don't believe that BS that HaHaHa
feeds you. People here gave you the benefit of the doubt when Namedropa
Hazini said you were one of his followers. It was not an attack at all.
> is
> fueled by my willingness to commercially publish NIMA's first book.
He is a drooling loon. Though some may read his book for laughs, given
that there is about one idiot per village, his book would seem like a
non-commercially viable proposition. Good news, though. Some of the
bozos who write books do not know a vanity press when they read the
contract, if you know what I mean.
> After all, I am a commercial publisher (http://www.newsavannah.com) .
> That is my business. Somebody wants to politically interfere in my
> business.
I doubt that very much. You go right ahead and take his money. Post on
TRB yourself if you think that will impress him.
> Stupidly, somebody at the US NSA believes that she/he has some power
> of coercion over me.
Are you yet another mind reader? Welcome to TRB!
> She/he does not.
>
> Why would Mr. K+++++, want to travel over 250 miles to meet with me?
This Mr. K++++++ has no interest in traveling to meet a Hazinahahi.
> To sling some Shoghi Effendi quotes at me to straighten me out?
>
> PPPLLLEEEAAASSSEEE!
>
> What could possibly be his demand of me--on behalf of the US NSA and
> guess who?
I have no idea. Straight up, ask him straight up, and maybe your
question will be answered.
> That I cease to be a pro-social leader among my
> people--Black and white and otherwise--in The US South?
Maybe it is about you being omniscient, you never know, you know?
- Mr. Bad
I Feel Good!
> Some of the
> bozos who write books do not know a vanity press when they read the
> contract, if you know what I mean.
Kinda of like Sae'idi's LOGOS AND CIVILIZATION, for example.
Freethought110
the Singularity of God (Vahid'ullah)!
Thank you brother Vahid'ullah for your words of Truth in every moment,
before every and after every moment (fi kullu hin, qabla hin wa ba'da
hin).
For the past two and a half years since I made my first declaration,
it has been a concerted, systematic, orchestrated and deliberated
policy of the baha'i administration from Haifa to attempt to
marginalize the discourse I have been presenting publically and
thereby silence and censor, as well as physically destroy, me by
whatever means necessary. They have attempted everything and it has
failed. They have striven by every means to drive wedges in my family,
recently with my sister against my parents. They have attempted to
threaten my father's business and practically twisted his arm with
that threat to come here in December 2002 and denounce me on TRB.
Several death threats have been made against me. My parent's house was
robbed in the middle of last year under very suspicious circumstances
(the only thing that was taken was my mother's telephone book - no
money, no wares, just a telephone book!). For the record, I place the
blame for the burglary of my parent's house, the threats against my
father's business, ad nauseum, all squarely at the feet of the baha'i
administration. But I have stood firm and will continue to do so as
long as I draw breath and nothing in existence will silence me short
of a bullet to my head, which I believe the baha'is are quite capable
of as they were with the recent murders of Dan Jordan and Hedi Ma'ani.
Let's be straight, my man, Haifan Baha'ism is a criminal organization
the same way the Gambino crime family was or Saddam Hussein's inner
circle were. They have a track record going all the way to the early
1850s when on the direct orders of their so called prophet, Mirza
Husayn Ali Nuri Baha'u-Shaytan the Antichrist, over a dozen key
articulate supporters of the Bab's legitimate successor, Subh-i-Azal,
were murdered in cold blood in Baghdad, Adrianople and Acre,
Palestine. The documentation for these murders is conclusive and all
those independent scholars with integrity like Browne, Nicolas,
Qazvini, Salibury, Miller, et al, have cited it. It therefore does not
surprise me that this criminal mafia organization - which recently
attempted to silence an incest victim in Peru by having her put away
in an asylum thus allowing her predator father to walk - would stoop
to interfering in a legitimate economic enterprise. Let's also be
straight, again: the baha'is have absolutely no response to anything I
have put forward. They have no response to the Will and Testament of
the Bab clearly designating Azal as the successor of the Bab. They
have no response to the irrefutable evidence regarding the murders of
Babis that their so called prophet ordered. They have no response to
the fact that when the evidence is scrutinized, their so called
prophet does not have a leg to stand on. Bottom line, brother, is that
this Babi rennaissance which you and I are spearheading is the worst
nightmare of this criminal mafia organization come true. They cannot
debate us in a discourse, so they are attempting to silence us by
attempting to intimidate you to cease with a legitimate commercial
activity, i.e. the publication of my book. Obviously they are that
deluded to believe they can silence you, William Pleasant, one of the
leading voices of the Left in North America, among the foremost voices
of the Black dissent alive.
Of course it does not dawn on the CEOs of this criminal mafia
organization and their ZioNazis patrons that recently when Disney
attempted to do the same thing with Michael Moore and his film
Farenheit 9/11, it backfired - and backfired very badly.
Again, I thank you, brother for your words. We have already overcome
and the Revolution is indeed ours!
DEATH TO FASCISM, DEATH TO BAHA'ISM, LONG LIVE THE SECOND BABI
REVOLUTION!
Nima S. Hazini (Sayfullah Quddusiyyah)
longl...@lycos.com (Thunder) wrote in message news:<7b3b198.04070...@posting.google.com>...
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I just can not believe how many idiots there are in this world.
Hey, I have to pronounce myself the super duper god.
Now. everyone kneel, raise your ass towards kabeh and start farting. I
am a very fun god. anything goes.
freetho...@yahoo.com (Freethought110) wrote in
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Paul Hammond
I imagine Pat was referring to George, and his book full of
factual errors.
But, your example might be another good one. I don't know
anything about it, though.
Palu, bartender
Paul Hammond
> Again, just for the record: NIMA IS LORD, MY GOD-- and so are you.
>
> --wm pleasant
Ah well.
I used to give you credit for some intelligence. Now I'm
not so sure.
If you really can't see through Nima's lack of clothes,
you deserve all the trouble you're inviting.
Good luck!
Paul
Paul Hammond
> Tell him to pay you some money. After all a god needs to pay for
> advertisement.
>
> I just can not believe how many idiots there are in this world.
>
> Hey, I have to pronounce myself the super duper god.
>
> Now. everyone kneel, raise your ass towards kabeh and start farting. I
> am a very fun god. anything goes.
>
:-) Nice one.
Should get Nima's attention with that one - he likes asses.
Paul
LIBERATOR
This digital chit-chat is not worth the bandwidth it's stored on.
BS talks, action walks, effendi.
There will be a series of books--non-vanity, by the way--that will
attempt to embrace what has been accumulated by Babi/Bahai-influenced
progressive intellectuals in the last 30 years. You will be astounded
by the variety and depth of these writings from around the world.
So, hold onto your britches, kid.
NIMA is just the tip of the iceberg.
All praise unto NIMA, the perfect, the high judge of all the
worlds--seen and unseen!
Same goes for you, too, Mr. Bad Judgement.
"Mr. Bad Judgement" <kohliCUT...@ameritel.net> wrote in message news:<2km0f2F...@uni-berlin.de>...
Mr. Bad Judgement
LIBERATOR wrote:
> I am not swayed by anything, MBJ.
> This digital chit-chat is not worth the bandwidth it's stored on.
> BS talks, action walks, effendi.
> There will be a series of books--non-vanity, by the way--that will
> attempt to embrace what has been accumulated by Babi/Bahai-influenced
> progressive intellectuals in the last 30 years. You will be astounded
> by the variety and depth of these writings from around the world.
> So, hold onto your britches, kid.
> NIMA is just the tip of the iceberg.
>
> All praise unto NIMA, the perfect, the high judge of all the
> worlds--seen and unseen!
>
> Same goes for you, too, Mr. Bad Judgement.
>
Thanks William. I'll be standing by my library.
- Mr. Bad
Freethought110
> longl...@lycos.com (Thunder) wrote in message news:<7b3b198.04070...@posting.google.com>...
>
> > Again, just for the record: NIMA IS LORD, MY GOD-- and so are you.
> >
> > --wm pleasant
>
> Ah well.
>
> I used to give you credit for some intelligence. Now I'm
> not so sure.
LOL :)) As if your giving or taking credit matters to a person of the
calibre of William Pleasant.
> If you really can't see through Nima's lack of clothes,
> you deserve all the trouble you're inviting.
He sees through everything, and it through you chumps who he has seen
right through.
> Good luck!
>
> Idiot