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Some thoughts about responding to global economic abuse

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Jim

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Nov 17, 2009, 1:55:58 AM11/17/09
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For many months after 9/11, when first I learned about the Caspian Sea
pipelines and the School of the Americas, I was intensely interested
in investigating and exposing the role of my national government, in
all its guises, at all times from its beginning, in the cruel
treatment of people all around the world, including some of its own
citizens. Later I decided that it would make very little difference
for more people to know about it. In fact, it looks to me like it does
more harm than good for people to know about it, without knowing what
to do about it.

I still see some value in investigating the mechanics of economic
abuse, and educating people about it, but it looks to me like it will
take much more than that to stop it.

For example, as I see it, part of what makes it possible for such a
small number of people to monopolize the world's human and natural
resources to serve their special interests so exclusively, in such
harmful ways, is the eagerness of millions of people everywhere to
sell their capacities to the highest bidder, and to hurt and betray
other people, in efforts to gain advantages, privileges and comforts
for themselves.

As another example, the cruelty associated with global economic abuse
is only part of the cruelty in the world. Also, I don't imagine that
it's the economic system itself that generates the cruelty, and I
don't imagine that changing the system, and/or its operators, would
stop the cruelty. People would just find new excuses to hurt and
betray each other, in pursuit of advantages, privileges and comforts
for themselves.

Again, as I see it, people's willingness to hurt and betray each other
is only part of what helps perpetuate the cruelty and other ugliness
in the world. I see a lot more behind it than that, and I see a lot
that needs to happen to change it, besides changing the system and
besides changing the ways people pursue advantages, privileges and
comforts for themselves.

I'm interested now in helping to improve the lives of the most abused
people, and I'm interested in helping to systematically reduce the
cruelty and counteract its effects all over the world.

I've been trying to improve how I walk with and work with the most
abused people who come into my life, and I've been trying to help
develop training programs for people who are learning to spread peace,
justice, beauty and kindness all over the world. For a long time I did
a lot of my work with abused people on line, and most of my work with
the training programs off line. I might be doing a lot less on line
from now on than I did before. I'm still interested in the
possibilities of the Internet, but I don't know if or when or how I'll
be pursuing that interest.

One line of action that I started just before I lost my access to
Blogspot was reading people's blogs, trying to learn how to encourage
and support them in the good they're trying to do. That's the first of
my online projects that I would like to revive.

diamondsouled

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Nov 17, 2009, 12:36:38 PM11/17/09
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One of the most vile economic abuses is human trafficking. Of course
this is mainly gender specific.

We've all heard the stories of those who have been kidnapped in China
and enslaved in brick factories etc.. It is the Chinese themselves
that need to deal with this criminal behavior.

With Nike and other US corporations that operate sweat shops all over
the developing world it gets a bit more complex. The only way to stem
this sort of abuse is through consumer awareness. This is happening
slowly but surely.

It is ironic that while the US, Canada, and other developed countries
loose jobs to developing countries the pollution that comes with such
industry is being exported as well.

This is one of the major challenges that humanity faces. Dealing with
the negative results of economic activity in an effective manner.

Cheers

Larry Rowe

NUR

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Nov 17, 2009, 10:24:11 PM11/17/09
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Capitalism and its industrial technocracy-for-profit must fall.
Period. Socialist models aren't however the answer either. Green
Theophanocracy, which is a form of Green Anarchism, and an Archaic
Revival is a model to look at, however. The first stepping stone is
for human beings to halt their war on the plant and organic world,
since Nature is the fundamental building block for all human felicity
(physical and spiritual) and what ultimately exercises the organic and
metaphysical function of keeping everything (including the human
being) in balance with everything else. When human beings en masse
finally come to the full realization that the despoilation of Nature
is ultimately a form of mass suicide against the human species on all
levels, things might change.

W

Jim

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Nov 18, 2009, 1:41:26 AM11/18/09
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Larry, you started me thinking again about the idea of boycotting some
companies because of the harm they're doing, and beyond that, about
how to find out the best ways for me to help reduce and counteract all
the harm people are doing everywhere. I have some ideas about it, but
I need to think about it some more. What are your ideas? There are so
many problems, and so many people proposing so many solutions. What
are your ideas about how to sort it all out, and how to decide what
you want to practice and promote, in relation to all the different
kinds of abuse?

Jim

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Nov 18, 2009, 1:43:15 AM11/18/09
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On Nov 18, 11:24 am, NUR <wahidaza...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Capitalism and its industrial technocracy-for-profit must fall.
> Period. Socialist models aren't however the answer either. Green
> Theophanocracy, which is a form of Green Anarchism, and an Archaic
> Revival is a model to look at, however. The first stepping stone is
> for human beings to halt their war on the plant and organic world,
> since Nature is the fundamental building block for all human felicity
> (physical and spiritual) and what ultimately exercises the organic and
> metaphysical function of keeping everything (including the human
> being) in balance with everything else. When human beings en masse
> finally come to the full realization that the despoilation of Nature
> is ultimately a form of mass suicide against the human species on all
> levels, things might change.
>
> W

I googled Green Theophanocracy, Green Anarchism and Archaic Revival,
and I enjoyed learning about them. I'd like to learn more. I'm glad to
know about your interest in Earth-friendly living. Certainly I agree
with stopping the war against nature. As far as political theories are
concerned, my first reaction was to dismiss any political theory as
the answer to all our problems, but maybe that wasn't how you meant
it. I see value in political theories, and I'm certainly in favor of
exploring the possibilities.

If you do see Green Theophanocracy as the answer to our problems, or
part of the answer, how do you imagine that people will start
practicing it enough to stop the war against nature?

NUR

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Nov 18, 2009, 2:49:13 AM11/18/09
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Tap into the Gaian mind and behold the Earth literally as a living,
breathing angel/divine being. A lot of folks had the right idea in the
'60s, but just the wrong applications.

And listen to this guy,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROtgvjQa49k&feature=related

W

Jim

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Nov 19, 2009, 11:43:37 PM11/19/09
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I'll look into that. Thank you. I can't watch the video because I
can't access YouTube.

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