Sectarian hatred articulated by the Haifan Bahai contingency

NUR

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Dec 13, 2009, 6:31:37 PM12/13/09

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Applies to no one else here but you guys. That said, since when have
you guys been offering benedictions and salavat to Muhammad (pbuh)
when your other members here, Faramarz Fateh, have gone out of their
way to articulate blatant Islamophobia? Seems like you're switching
tack now that you have been called on such sectarian hatred previously
expressed by you.

That stated, the neutral observer should note that every response by
the Haifan Bahai contingency here is articulating increasingly more
rabid forms of sectarian bigotry. There are no reasonable or rational
arguments being offered by them, but rather pure fundamentalist and
sectarian hatred couched in totally transparent Orwellian double-
speak.

NUR

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Dec 13, 2009, 6:32:45 PM12/13/09

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speak. This is the agenda that this particular organization is
ultimately wishing to bring to a post-IR Iran.

NUR

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Dec 13, 2009, 11:47:00 PM12/13/09

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Seagull, all those verses from the Qur'an and the sayings of 'Ali can
just as well be applied to yourselves here, and more so, especially in
how you have treated me and any other individual who has ever raised
their voices against you -- like the Orthodox Bahais or even Marge.

Also, these quotes and the argument you are attempting to invoke with
them, besides being irrelevent, are completely sidetracking from the
main issue of this blog. I believe you are doing this deliberately
because it is part of a longstanding strategy I have observed from
Haifan Baha'is going years designed to distract from a controversy. It
is a bait and switch strategy and in logic it is a complete fallacy.
It is also an observable strategy members of your creed have utilized
in literature to unjustfiably attack the Bayanis, and others.

Now kindly respond to the points made by Larry, on the one hand, and
offer some kind of explanation as to why the Ugandan Bahai
administration and the Baha'i world center have jumped on this anti-
gay and anti-civil rights hysteria over there, on the other. And
especially why, pray tell, are you making common cause in this issue
with fundamentalist Muslims and rightwing Evangelical Christians?
These are the issues you need to be addressing and not sleight of
handing with quotes from the Qur'an and the sayings of 'Ali (as) that
can just as well be applied to yourselves.

Common, brother, what do you think about this case from your own
perspective? Don't you think this involvement makes you look like
total creeps?

Jim

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Dec 15, 2009, 10:19:39 PM12/15/09

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Wahid, if you don't mind, I'd like to know where these discussions are
going on. Are you posting copies here of your comments in a blog? If
so, what blog?

Jim

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Dec 15, 2009, 10:28:13 PM12/15/09

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Never mind, Wahid. I found it.

AllBad

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Dec 18, 2009, 12:14:34 PM12/18/09

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That is the useful distinction between a real dialog and ranting monolog:
someone might know, with a lot of confidence, where they are going with the
rant vice the dialog.

- All Bad

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NUR

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Dec 21, 2009, 5:47:01 AM12/21/09

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See also BAHAI CULT FAQ

http://bahaicultfaq.blogspot.com/

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Pat_Kohli

Pat Kohli, or Patrick Kohli, is a member of the Haifan Baha'i Faith[1]
who makes regular contributions to the USENET newsgroup
talk.religion.bahai[2]. He is a computer programmer who has worked on
software for various projects, including military systems.
Contents
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* 1 Background
* 2 Articles and Resources
o 2.1 Related SourceWatch Articles
o 2.2 References
o 2.3 External Articles

Background

He "is a computer scientist assigned to 4.5.3.3. He works for PMA-231
as the Open Architecture (OA) IPT lead, in the OA/FORCEnet IPT of the
Network Centric Warfare IPT. Prior to this he worked at Saint Inigoes
for 4.5 and developed a prototype next generation flight data
recorder, using COTS components, to meet incident reporting,
maintenance and FOQA needs. Pat also supported the old PMA-282 which
did weapon control systems for guided missiles. Pat has an MS in
computer Information Systems from Florida Tech." [3]

"Pat Kohli, NCW Open Architecture Lead, demonstrated how the E-2/C-2
program office (PMA-231) is continuously evaluating and implementing
software modernization to facilitate transition of the existing E-2
operational flight program to an environment using commercially
available systems. Venlet said, "The Naval Aviation Enterprise has
embraced open architecture as a fundamental building block of weapon
system development from its very inception. Our government/industry
teams continue to leverage these open system strategies and concepts
in achieving reduction in overall development cycle times and
delivering increased system capabilities to the Fleet faster and
cheaper. The advantages of integrating open architecture designs and
contracting strategies are measurable and pronounced as is
substantiated by our E-2D Advanced Hawkeye and P-8 Multi-Mission
Aircraft development programs. The key to continued success will be
maintaining the close partnership with industry experts, as we provide
the right capabilities, at the right time and right cost to the joint
warfighter."The E-2 Hawkeye team has been representing and directly
supporting Venlet's executive office - the aviation domain lead for
open architecture initiatives - since June 2004, because of its role
as a battle management command and control platform and a central
network communications node in aviation. E-2 Program Manager Capt.
Randy Mahrsaid, "Today's evolving E-2 open architecture model paves
the way for a more mature system to be used by the E-2D prior to it
taking its place in the fleet."[3]

Pat Kohli has maintained a consistent web presence since the late
1990s, particularly on USENET, addressing both external critics and
dissenters within the Haifan Baha'i Faith tradition to which he
belongs [5]. In 1998, he voted against the creation of the USENET
group, talk.religion.bahai, as an un-moderated discussion forum for
issues relating to the Baha'i faith [4]. Official discussion regarding
the creation of this group may also be found at: [6]. He posts under
the handles Mr All Bad and All_Bad [5]

Articles and Resources