Track Record of Bahaim Lies regarding HR violations in Iran
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In 2004 in a series of the editorials in several Western language
newspapers, the Baha'i International Community claimed:
1) That a Baha'i holy site in the town of Barfurush, Mazandaran,
namely
the grave of Mullah Muhammad 'Ali Barfurushi Quddus (d. 1849), had
been
desecrated and destroyed.
- What these editorials failed to mention was that this gravesite in
Mazandaran was at no time, whether now or in the past, a Baha'i holy
site nor the holy figure interred a Baha'i.
The Baha'i International Community claimed this grave had been
destroyed as a matter of fact. No evidence of such destruction was
ever
furnished to any human rights body yet it was repeated again and
again.
THE ACTUAL FACTS
The grave of Siyyid Mulla Muhammad 'Ali Barfurushi "Quddus" is
situated
in an all girls school in the hamlet of Barfurush outside of the town
of Sari. This grave has been there since the murder of said individual
in the summer of 1849 by a mob incited against said by Sa'id al-Ulama,
the Usuli mujtahid of the town. During the early part of 2004 routine
repairs were conducted upon the structure of the school, and during
these reparis a wall some several yards away was partially damaged.
This wall was nowhere near the grave nor has the grave been damaged.
This was therefore no desecration ordered by the IR regime but a
repair.
In the New York Times, the London Times, et al, the Baha'i
International "cult" community had claimed this desecration as a
matter
of fact. To date they have not furnished a single leaf of documentary
evidence to any human rights body regarding this incident or any such
desecration.
2) Shortly after this incident they claimed that the house of Mirza
Bozorg Nuri, situated in the old Arab quarter of Tehran, had been
destroyed as well. Once again, no documentary evidence was provided
for
this claim, and the house still stands at this time.
3) Towards the end of 2004 the Baha'i International Community then
began claiming to be victims of "cultural genocide" by the Iranian
nation as a whole, without specifying the IR but rather Iran en toto.
This claim was first articulated by Moojan Momen on the Tarikh list
and
shortly thereafter a journal article by one Friedrich Affolter
appeared
making this same claim.
- This claim was immediately questioned by a sting of professional
human rights academics, amongst them Associate Professor Reza Afshari.
All of these items were taken to the former United Nations Commission
for Human Rights (now desolved) as petitions for egregious human
rights
violations by the Islamic Republic towards their community, and all
were rejected as unsubstantiated by the former body in early 2005.
Shortly thereafter the item below appeared on the Baha'i International
community's own website. At this time the Baha'i International "cult"
community is questioning the former body's resolve in refusing their
petition, and even denying that their petition was found to be
unsubstantiated. Yet to date no independently verifiable, documentary
evidence has been provided for the allegations noted above by the
Baha'i international cult community.
In short, in 2004-2005 the Baha'i "international cult" community lied
to the general public as well as the human rights community regarding
human rights violations, and as such were told where to go by the
former UN body. And still no evidence has been forthcoming on these
claims, regarding:
1) The destruction of the shrine of Quddus
2) The destruction of the house of Mirza Bozorg
3) Or "Cultural genocide"
Nor for that matter have the Baha'is explained:
1) Where the evidence is for the uhj's follow-ups on the disappeared
NSA of Iran circa 1979?
2) Or, where is the IRI's official statement on the fate and final
whereabouts of these individuals is?
3) Or, why is there an official Baha'i body in Iran today sanctioned
by
the
Islamic regime today known as the Ma'arif and why a Mr Khanjani who
represents this body is left unmolested by the Islamist regime?
Viv
Gicven that you have already admitted that you will do and say
anything, and pretend to side with anybody, if only it is against the
Baha'is, why should anyone believe a word you say?
383
> Gicven
You mean "given". I know the language of rodents is your first
language, but do use a spell check.
that you have already admitted that you will do and say
> anything, and pretend to side with anybody, if only it is against the
> Baha'is, why should anyone believe a word you say?
Because it is fact, and also because your organization's track record
is known well where it counts, and also because *you* whose track
record for dishonesty is legion dispute it.
W
Viv
So you say, and yet measured against not just your track record of
mendacity but your admitted willingness to do and say _anything_ to do
down the Baha'is, what you say doesn't really count for much.
383
> On 15 Feb, 10:17, 383 <wahidaza...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Feb 15, 7:11 pm, Viv <viv_jacob...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > > anything, and pretend to side with anybody, if only it is against the
> > > Baha'is, why should anyone believe a word you say?
>
> > Because it is fact, and also because your organization's track record
> > is known well where it counts, and also because *you* whose track
> > record for dishonesty is legion dispute it.
>
> > W
>
> So you say,
Yes, I do, and my sources aren't PRAVDA...bahainewsservice.
>and yet measured against not just your track record of
> mendacity
LOL...by far the most mendacious and dishonest individual, after Susan
Maniac and Pat KKKholi, on these boards - without a doubt - is _you_.
A hired thug who takes up multiple aliases and personalities, first,
Paul Hammond, now Viv Jacobson, and Lord knows who else previously.
>but your admitted willingness to do and say _anything_ to do
> down the Baha'is,
Haifan Bahaism is a criminal organization with a long, historical
track record for dishonesty, evidence manufacture and exagerration of
evidence, not to mention cooperating with nefarious political actors
such as Augusto Pinochet and Idi Amin, etc. Anyone who takes on the
mantle of active combat against this organization is a hero and
freedom fighter.
W
Viv
No specific response to the points made, just abuse.
Typical Nima.
" ...born into an Iranian Baha'i family resident in Australia and
had a marginal career on Talisman before resigning membership of the
Baha'i community in 1996 stating he still believed in Baha'u'llah but
did not accept the leadership of the Universal House of Justice. He
then became involved in Sufism before announcing a messianic claim for
himself and finally becoming a Babi - the religion that preceded the
Baha'i Faith in Iran. There are still a few people who regard
themselves as Babis and followers of Azal (1832-1912), who claimed to
be the true successor of the Bab and opposed Baha'u'llah. These Azalis
would however probably be somewhat bemused by [his] idiosyncratic mix
of Neo-Platonism, Kabbala and Sufism. His main occupation now,
however, seems to be inhabiting various marginal Baha'i e-mail lists
and Usenet groups and issuing vitriolic denunciations of the Baha'i
Faith as an evil "cult". At present, he seems to be against almost
everyone, Baha'i core members, marginals and apostates. He posts 10-20
e-mails on most days."
Momen on Nima - a rather charitable description, leaving out Nima's
track record of lies, racism, and general vilness of language and
sentiment that would also no doubt bemuse the genuine Babis. E.g. the
very spiritual and Bayani "FUCK THE TRAITOROUS FINK DERMOD RYDER AND
HIS SPASTICK BRAT!".
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eyed cultist idiot and paid hack, and MacEoin is about to say so in
print. Besides his quixotic taxonomization of me completely
contradicts his entire argument in the paper.
Caution - THE BAHAI TECHNIQUE
"Slanderous Vilification" = The Baha'i Technique - Ad Hominem, Libel,
Slander, Demonize, Scapegoat, Ostracize, Shun, Banish, Backbite,
Defame, Vilify, Discredit, Smear, Revile, Suppress, Attack, Bully,
Intimidate, Threaten, Malign, Blackball, Deceive, Coerce, Silence,
Harass... etc., etc.... CAUTION NON-BAHAIS