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Republican Policies Are Anti-Worker & Anti-American

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AbelM...@webtv.net

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May 16, 2004, 10:49:32 AM5/16/04
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Republicans tend to represent the interest of employers (aka business),
while Democrats tend to represent the interest of employees (aka
workers). This is not to say that Republican policies are good for
business, but Republican policies are policies which businesses want,
and that would be what big businesses want only. Forget about small
businesses, because they never have enough money to donate to Republican
politicians, so it is only big businesses that will get the attention of
Republican policy makers.

The problem with catering to big businesses is that what they want is
not even good for them. For example, big businesses want to stifle
competition. All businesses hate competition, especially big
businesses, but it is with competition that businesses do best.
Competition forces businesses to work harder to bring out better
products and services, and then to lower the prices, which also benefits
the consumers. The end result is that competition leads to an overall
improvement to the general economy, but not necessarily success for any
particular business.

With Democrats, because we tend to enforce anti-monopoly laws,
competition is increased. For example, Bill Clinton supported a lawsuit
that tried to break up Bill Gates' computer monopoly, George Bush
promptly reversed course and withdrew that lawsuit. The result has been
a stagnating internet/computer industry. Bill Gates, understandably
enough, does not like competition, but if he had any competition, he
would make better products. It's as simple as that.

At this point, Republicans control all branches of our government.
History has shown that every time that this happens, the overall economy
goes down. With Republicans in power, it is to be expected that they
will insitute policies that screw the American worker, and that is
exactly what they have been doing.

In this dynamic, treacherous labor market, our government is
deliberately repressing the American worker. The very concept of the
traditional high-paid American job, with its generous health and pension
benefits and paid vacation IS AT RISK, this is obvious.

Big businesses have by far the biggest say in the development of
America's trade policies, they are thriving in today's environment. But
us workers are virtually completely shut out of the picture because of
our Republican dominated government, with such policies ranging from the
subsidizing of outsourcing to the elimination of overtime pay, and
others, we the American workers are therefore becoming the biggest
losers in the world, and the losses are only now beginning to be
realized. Since Bush has been pResident, the jobs that have been
"created" have been primarily in low paying sectors, more and more of
them being high turn-over, part-time jobs with no health insurance or
benefits. These are NOT the upwardly mobile jobs long associated with
entry into the American middle class.

This November, our country would be vastly better off if everyone votes
their pocketbook and refuse to believe any of Bush's lies. Bush keeps
trying to convince us that he has been creating jobs, but he hasn't. We
have lost jobs, and wages have gone down. The fact still remains that
his administration has lost more jobs than ever before in our nation's
history since the Great Depression.

Abel Malcolm

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www.democracynow.org & www.democrats.org & www.bushwatch.com &
www.americanprogress.org

Bob Curtin

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May 17, 2004, 1:41:57 PM5/17/04
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On Sun, 16 May 2004 07:49:32 -0700, AbelM...@webtv.net wrote:

>Republicans tend to represent the interest of employers (aka business),
>while Democrats tend to represent the interest of employees (aka
>workers). This is not to say that Republican policies are good for
>business, but Republican policies are policies which businesses want,
>and that would be what big businesses want only. Forget about small
>businesses, because they never have enough money to donate to Republican
>politicians, so it is only big businesses that will get the attention of
>Republican policy makers.
>

The problem exists with the Democrat (and union) philosophy that there
is a dichotomy between the interests of the businessman and the
interests of the workers they employ. It is ignorant slobs such as
yourself who foster this drivel.

By the way, UnAbel, how about defining those "Republican policies." I
realize that you on the loony left feel that a mere proclamation is
enough, but without an explanation of what you mean, this post is
actually little more than your uneducated opinion.



>The problem with catering to big businesses is that what they want is
>not even good for them. For example, big businesses want to stifle
>competition. All businesses hate competition, especially big
>businesses, but it is with competition that businesses do best.
>Competition forces businesses to work harder to bring out better
>products and services, and then to lower the prices, which also benefits
>the consumers. The end result is that competition leads to an overall
>improvement to the general economy, but not necessarily success for any
>particular business.
>

You really do have an infantile outlook on this subject - a subject
about which you are woefully ignorant. Businesses don't hate
competition. We in business understand that competition is a fact of
life, right along with the necessity of having to pay off corrupt
bureaucrats. Your inane and simplistic proclamations to the contrary
businessmen are not collectively evil any more than workers are
collectively angelic.



>With Democrats, because we tend to enforce anti-monopoly laws,
>competition is increased. For example, Bill Clinton supported a lawsuit
>that tried to break up Bill Gates' computer monopoly, George Bush
>promptly reversed course and withdrew that lawsuit.

Actually, the lawsuit was settled when, on June 28th of 2001, the
District of Columbia Court of Appeals unanimously held that Microsoft
engaged in unlawful monopolization. The lawsuit was not withdrawn,
UnAbel. Quit lying. In fact, several states, including
Massachusetts, have proceeded with their own lawsuits because they
were unhappy with the verdict. (Heavy fines and dictums instead of a
breakup of Microsoft, which would have been disastrous)

>The result has been
>a stagnating internet/computer industry. Bill Gates, understandably
>enough, does not like competition, but if he had any competition, he
>would make better products. It's as simple as that.
>

Stagnating internet/computer industry? Where are you living, under a
rock? Virtually every company has a web site and millions of new sites
are being added weekly. In addition, web commerce is accounting for
an increasing percentage of national sales and is growing rapidly with
companies adding E-commerce to their retail sales. The computer
industry is hardly stagnant. New products, software and peripherals
are being released daily and sales are at an all-time high. The
computer industry is especially lively in the realm of media and
communications - cell phones, PDA's, etc.

UnAbel, I've been into computers since 1979 in the days of sub-4 mhz
machines, 32K of RAM, CP/M and before IBM launched their desktop PC in
1981. In those days, desktop computers were isolated from each other
and each company ran proprietory, command-line operating systems.
Graphical User Interfaces (GUI's) did not exist. You accessed and
manipulated files by means of typing command lines and you loaded and
ran one program at a time. Microsoft changed all that. While they
didn't invent the GUI, (if memory serves me, I think it was Digital
Research with its GEM shell) Microsoft was the first to standardize
the look of programs which ran under theWwindows shell and to offer
developers both help and expertise in developing windows applications.

Today, because of Microsoft's excellent line of products, software,
especially high-end products like that produced by Discreet, Autodesk,
Adobe and Corel for example, have a common interface which cuts the
learning curve of these product drastically.

The reason Microsoft Windows is used almost univeraslly is because
it's the best on the market, all things considered - especially
considering its compatibility with the vast majority of software and
hardware on the market.



>At this point, Republicans control all branches of our government.
>History has shown that every time that this happens, the overall economy
>goes down. With Republicans in power, it is to be expected that they
>will insitute policies that screw the American worker, and that is
>exactly what they have been doing.
>

What policies? Again, UnAbel, be specific. It's not enough to just
spout bullshit. Back it up.



>In this dynamic, treacherous labor market, our government is
>deliberately repressing the American worker. The very concept of the
>traditional high-paid American job, with its generous health and pension
>benefits and paid vacation IS AT RISK, this is obvious.
>

Obvious to whom?

The problem is not just the dynamism of the labor market, but the
growing educational requirements in today's high tech job market. You
are lamenting the pre-computer days when workers kept the same jobs
for thirty years and didn't have to worry about drastically
fluctuating job markets. I feel your pain. But the problem is,
UnAbel, that those days are gone forever and have been for some years
now. Anyone who sits in the same job today for any length of time
works for the government where competition and excellence are
non-existent. And anyone who doesn't constantly upgrade their
marketable skills is going to be left in the dust, blaming somebody
else for their unemployment woes.

You can scream at the shadows all you want, but the fact is that the
public school system is not preparing American children for the
real-world marketplace. PS-42 is more concerned with multicultural
bullshit, political correctness denigrating corporate America and
promoting leftist idiocy than it is in teaching these kids English
(the language of business) and mathematics (the language of science).

In manufacturing, CNC machinery, lasers, ceramics, CAD/CAM technology,
3D modeling and slice technology has taken over from the highly
skilled journeyman who learned his trade over years of apprenticeship
and dedication. Increasingly the manufacturing sector has become a
system of setup/handle-pullers, where a skilled setup guy programs and
sets up an unskilled worker's automated workstation. The worker then
loads raw stock and unloads finished parts from fixtures or bins.
Variations on this theme can be seen all over manufacturing and is
only going to get more prevalent.

You want American workers to secure higher paying jobs? Tell them to
educate themselves, stay educated by keeping up with their field of
employment, and above all learn different marketable skills. The
buggy whip syndrome is happening at an increasing rate as
technological advances make other products obsolete.



>Big businesses have by far the biggest say in the development of
>America's trade policies, they are thriving in today's environment. But
>us workers are virtually completely shut out of the picture because of
>our Republican dominated government, with such policies ranging from the
>subsidizing of outsourcing to the elimination of overtime pay, and
>others, we the American workers are therefore becoming the biggest
>losers in the world, and the losses are only now beginning to be
>realized. Since Bush has been pResident, the jobs that have been
>"created" have been primarily in low paying sectors, more and more of
>them being high turn-over, part-time jobs with no health insurance or
>benefits. These are NOT the upwardly mobile jobs long associated with
>entry into the American middle class.
>

First of all, UnAbel, the government is not subsidizing outsourcing.
That's another lie.

Second, where are you getting this information? How do you know that
all of the hundreds of thousands of jobs are low-paying? Did you just
pull that out of your ass? Cite please.


>This November, our country would be vastly better off if everyone votes
>their pocketbook and refuse to believe any of Bush's lies. Bush keeps
>trying to convince us that he has been creating jobs, but he hasn't. We
>have lost jobs, and wages have gone down. The fact still remains that
>his administration has lost more jobs than ever before in our nation's
>history since the Great Depression.
>

Wages have not gone down, and unemployment is lower than when Clinton
left office. Again, quit your lying.

http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t17.htm


>Abel Malcolm
>
>Send Bush to Iraq - Bring our troops home
>
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>
>Educate yourself & go to these links:
>

Go to these links and laugh your ass off:

Bob Curtin

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When in danger or in doubt,
run in circles; scream and shout.

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kstahl

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May 17, 2004, 6:17:24 PM5/17/04
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Bob Curtin wrote:
> By the way, UnAbel, how about defining those "Republican policies." I
> realize that you on the loony left feel that a mere proclamation is
> enough, but without an explanation of what you mean, this post is
> actually little more than your uneducated opinion.

The moment you use the phrase "loony left" you instantly remove
any credibility for anything else you say because it is obvious
that every thought you record is based on conservative rhetoric,
which has little to do with actual facts. Lose the attitude,
start treating others with respect as fellow Americans and learn
to think for yourself rather then parroting
Republican/conservative rhetoric.

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