In article <37d75c55.1929
...@news.demon.co.uk>,
jac
...@saskia.demon.co.uk wrote:
> Jackie:
> >> Tibet is a country, like Mongolia.
> Guardiangel:
> >how??? Can u be more specific?
> Jackie:
> It has its own language, history, land, people, religion, education,
> way of life.
Dont make me laugh, a distinct language and culture(land, ppl,
religion, way of life....etc) are not necessarily prerequisites for
independence. The PRC has over 50 distant ethic groups and is one of
many ultinational states.
> Jackie;
> >>Yes, at the moment it is occupied by outside forces
> Guardiangel
> >what u mean by "outside forces"? the British?
> Jackie:
> Now, dear, sit down and relax. Now think. Are the british settled in
> Tibet and controlling the Government, education system, religion and
> economy? Hmmm, it's a hard one, but I think you can do it. Who are the
> invading dictators? Something beginning with 'C'....
u mean "C"hina??? lolz!!!
I dont think it is China, becuz Tibet has been part of China since the
13th century. Moreover there were times when the High Commissioner of
the Chinese central authorities were in almost complete control of the
government in Tibet, such as the period from 1728 to 1911.
Generally, China is the sovereignty-owner of Tibet and it is recognized
by the international communities.
> Guardiangel:
> >as I hav said b4, religious freedom is respected in the territory
> >unless the ppl split the nation in the name of "religion"
> Jackie:
> You are factually incorrect. Religious freedom is not respected in
> Tibet.
And????????????? that's all u wanna say?????
"The Government allows a number of forms of religious activity in
Tibet. It does not tolerate religious manifestations that advocate
Tibetan independence or any expression of "splitism".........Buddhist
monasteries and proindependence activism are closely associated in
Tibet."
~US State Department's Report on Tibet
THe fact is that religious freedom is respected unless someone carry
out TI activities. And it was recognized by foreign Tibetologists who
hav done research and visit in Tibet for many times.
[Reference: M.C. Goldstein, The Snow Lion and The Dragon, p93]
> Guardiangel:
> >Historically Tibetan culture is strongly influenced by the Han
culture,
> >I dont know what u mean here...
> Jackie:
> I don't know about this.
> Supposing Tibetan culture has been historically influenced by China,
> India and Mongolia. So what? All countries are influenced by others.
> That's a good thing. Tibet, though, is FAMOUSLY isolated and
> historically un-influenced.
First of all, u STILL HAVN'T answered my question about the meaning
of "being slowly sinicised". I hope u are not drawing our attention
away, buddy!!
Secondly, in the 13th century the (Chinese) central authorities
established the Xuan Zheng Yuan to handle the civil and military
affairs of Tibet. The authorities also set up a Pacification
Commissioner's Office in Tibet. At that time Tibet was administratively
divided into 3 regions with thirteen "Wan Hu"(meaning 10000
households). The nomination of officials in Tibet has to be approved by
the central govt. Beijing(Dadu) also carried out censuses, imposed
taxes and levies and set up post-staging stations and monopoly markets
in the Tibetan region. Therefore, I really don't know what is meant
by "Historically un-influenced".
> However, just because a country is
> influenced by several others...what are you saying?
Huh??? I am asking what are u saying about "sinicised".
> Those countries
> have a right to invade and dominate?
Did I say that????
> Jackie:
> >>Hundreds of thousands live in exile. their spiritual leader
> >>may not be free in his own country. No, I think many Tibetans
> >>are deeply unhappy.
> Guardiangel
> >It is just because the spiritual leader is splitting the Nation...
> Jackie:
> Er.....hello? Do you live on plant earth? How is the Dalai Lama
> "splitting" a nation? What a strange thing to say! Explain yourself.
The well-known fact is that the 14th Dalai Lama is advocating TI. Isn't
it very clear that he is splitting the Nation????
Wake up!!! What's wrong with ur common sense???
Guardiangel
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