Pray for my daughter to be reborn in independent Tibet: Self-immolator’s father
Phayul [Tuesday, November 13, 2012 14:39]
DHARAMSHALA, November 13: Father of Tibetan self-immolator, Tamding Tso, who passed away in her fiery protest last week, has made an emotional appeal, requesting people to pray for his daughter to be reborn in an independent Tibet in her next life.
“I request you all to pray that may my daughter be reborn in an independent Tibet and hear and see His Holiness the Dalai Lama in her next life,” Tamding Kyab said in a conversation with a group of local Tibetans who had come to offer their last respects.
Earlier reports had indicated that a large number of Tibetans had visited Tamding Tso’s home to pay their condolences and show their solidarity.
Kyab said his daughter was “always concerned about Tibet’s situation” and clearly stated that her self-immolation protest was for the “cause of Tibet and not for any family reasons.”
“What triggered her self-immolation,” according to Kyab, was when both father and daughter went to the nearby Dowa town a month ago and “saw Chinese government posters reiterating the ban on pictures of the Dalai Lama and calling on Tibetans to publicly protest separatist forces and their activities.”
Kyab said his daughter was “visibly angered” and very saddened to see those posters, and recollected telling him: “Father, this is the sad destiny of Tibetan people. We can’t even keep and pray before the picture of our spiritual leader His Holiness the Dalai Lama.”
A copy of the notice obtained by the Central Tibetan Administration reads, “the government imposes complete ban on keeping photos of His Holiness the Dalai Lama” and pledges to “maintain unity of the motherland and fight against the Dalai group’s separatist activities.”
Tamding Tso, 23, mother of a seven-year-old son, later set herself on fire near the Ghe Mar thang in Dowa town at around 5.30 pm (local time) on November 7 shouting, “His Holiness the Dalai Lama must come to Tibet.”
Before leaving her home that day, Kyab said Tamding Tso cleaned the house, offered prayers in front of His Holiness the Dalai Lama’s portrait and took petrol from their motorbike.
“When I came to know about my daughter’s self-immolation protest, it felt as if my heart was pulled out of my chest,” Kyab said. “She was my favourite and most beloved daughter. I never raised even a finger on her since she was born.”
However, the aggrieved father said his daughter’s decision was for the larger Tibetan cause and for the wish to see the return of the His Holiness the Dalai Lama and Panchen Lama on their thrones.
“So, I think it is of no use to ponder over anything else than to respect her decision and sacrifice,” Kyab added. “Therefore, I appeal to all of you to remain united and work together to fulfil her goals and aspirations.”
Following Tamding Tso’ self-immolation protest, eight more Tibetans have set themselves on fire inside Tibet, taking the toll to 72, since the wave of fiery protests began in 2009.
Discussion subject changed to "Da Lama rejects an independent Tibet, chanting "Middle Way is My Way" as he mingles with extremist Japanese and offered them stress reduction recipe and not to his own headstrong and highly stressed people, gasp! Re: Pray for my [headstrong and ignorant] daughter [who committed self-immolation] to be reborn in independent Tibet" by lo yeeOn
Subject: Da Lama rejects an independent Tibet, chanting "Middle Way is My Way" as he mingles with extremist Japanese and offered them stress reduction recipe and not to his own headstrong and highly stressed people, gasp! Re: Pray for my [headstrong and ignorant] daughter [who committed self-immolation] to be reborn in independent Tibet
In article <1761688.NBjzIIAMDz@Dharma>,
Peter Terpstra <pe...@dharma.dyndns.info> wrote:
>Pray for my daughter to be reborn in independent Tibet:
>Self-immolator’s father
>Phayul [Tuesday, November 13, 2012 14:39]
>DHARAMSHALA, November 13: Father of Tibetan self-immolator, Tamding Tso,
>who passed away in her fiery protest last week, has made >an emotional appeal, requesting people to pray for his daughter to be
>reborn in an independent Tibet in her next life.
It is so stupid! Da Lama doesn't want an "independent" Tibet. He
wants and his sycophants have echoed thus only a "genuine" autonomy
under Chinese sovereignty. So this poor man has died for naught!
It's so sad that Da Lama's followers are so ignorant! They don't
realize that Da Lama has been playing them like a bunch of yo-yos!
They don't realize that Da Lama does not have their interests at
heart. They don't realize that Da Lama is doing things only to make
his paymasters in the West happy.
According to Peter "Hard-Yards" Terpstra's story, the woman who
committed the grisly seppuku (hara-kiri), errrh, reincarnated as the
more iconic self-immolation, did so after having seen government
posters forbidding the display of Da Lama's photos and was visibly
angered by it.
To her, the announcment meant that she could not "pray before the
picture". So, she killed herself.
I see that she had an anger management problem. If Da Lama wants to
know why, the reason has been laid bare.
The headstrong woman, her father who never even so much as having
raised a finger at her, and those she interacted with have taught her
the wrong idea about living and values in general. It is hardly the
first time in history that the portrait of a certain personage was
forbidden from public display. If you have to pray before Da Lama in
order to retain your faith, then you have got the wrong set of genes.
According to Darwin, those who possess the genes would not survive in
the world which only accommodates the fittest.
According to "Hard-Yards",
Da Lama has lectured the public saying:
"...a calm mind is very>important for a peaceful and happy life.
Physical and material comfort doesn't necessarily guarantee 100%
happiness".
His Holiness also said that neuroscientists in America has found out
through an experiment that after practising compassion, stress and
blood pressures of people are reduced. So, a healthy mind is very
crucial for a healthy body.
Da Lama ought to offer his "compassion" practice secret to his
followers to help them reduce their stress and blood pressures.
Da Lama should value the health of his followers more than anyone else
as they seem to care more about his ten thousand year longevity rather
than their own short mortal lives. He should particularly care if he
wants to have one-sixth of China's current territory for his "genuine"
Tibetan autonomy when the able-minded/able-bodied Tibetans to take
charge of a state are already few and far in between.
So who does Da Lama think will be capable enough to pick up the task
of managing a state, however he wants to call it, if he got his wish
for a "genuine" autonomous Tibet in the end? Does he think that a
bunch of illiterates who are easy to anger followed by suicide will be
able to manage a power generation and distribution authority and a
transportation authority. Or is Da Lama thinking that he can hire a
bunch of American contractors to manage his "genuinely autonomous"
Tibet for him. Does he realize that although the Tibetan monks and
monasteries are heavily subsidized by the Chinese government right
now, he would have to find another way to get the money to feed those
consuming but not producing monks and monasteries? Does Da Lama think
that those easy to anger and violence followers wouldn't get angry
with him in the end when the Chinese were out of the picture?
The truth is Da Lama doesn't care because he knows that he isn't going
to live for ten thousands of years and all he wants to do now is to
make his western paymasters happy, and no more!
The truth is the longer those ignorant followers of Da Lama have him,
the longer and the more they suffer!
>"I request you all to pray that may my daughter be reborn in an
>independent Tibet and hear and see His Holiness the Dalai Lama in her
>next life," Tamding Kyab said in a conversation with a group of local
>Tibetans who had come to offer their last respects.
>Earlier reports had indicated that a large number of Tibetans had
>visited Tamding Tso's home to pay their condolences and show their
>solidarity.
>Kyab said his daughter was "always concerned about Tibet's situation"
>and clearly stated that her self-immolation protest was for the
>"cause of Tibet and not for any family reasons."
>"What triggered her self-immolation," according to Kyab, was when
>both father and daughter went to the nearby Dowa town a month ago and
>"saw Chinese government posters reiterating the ban on pictures of
>the Dalai Lama and calling on Tibetans to publicly protest separatist
>forces and their activities."
>Kyab said his daughter was "visibly angered" and very saddened to see
>those posters, and recollected telling him: "Father, this is the sad
>destiny of Tibetan people. We can't even keep and pray before the
>picture of our spiritual leader His Holiness the Dalai Lama."
>A copy of the notice obtained by the Central Tibetan Administration
>reads, "the government imposes complete ban on keeping photos of His
>Holiness the Dalai Lama" and pledges to "maintain unity of the
>motherland and fight against the Dalai group's separatist activities.
>Tamding Tso, 23, mother of a seven-year-old son, later set herself on
>fire near the Ghe Mar thang in Dowa town at around 5.30 pm >(local time) on November 7 shouting, "His Holiness the Dalai Lama must
>come to Tibet."
>Before leaving her home that day, Kyab said Tamding Tso cleaned the
>house, offered prayers in front of His Holiness the Dalai Lama's >portrait and took petrol from their motorbike.
>"When I came to know about my daughter's self-immolation protest, it
>felt as if my heart was pulled out of my chest," Kyab said. "She was
>my favourite and most beloved daughter. I never raised even a finger
>on her since she was born."
>However, the aggrieved father said his daughter's decision was for
>the larger Tibetan cause and for the wish to see the return of the
>His Holiness the Dalai Lama and Panchen Lama on their thrones.
>"So, I think it is of no use to ponder over anything else than to
>respect her decision and sacrifice," Kyab added. "Therefore, I
>appeal to all of you to remain united and work together to fulfil her
>goals and aspirations."
Subject: Da Lama wants dialog (with China) while hobnobbing with
Japan's extremists - remember Yukio Mishima and his ilk and their
seppuku rituals - think self-immolations for Da Lama's ignorant
extremist followers - Da Lama has a credibility gap!
In article <2401128.rsoJvLfEtR@Dharma>,
Peter Terpstra <pe...@dharma.dyndns.info> wrote:
>Dialogue is only realistic way to solve problems, says His Holiness
>November 12, 2012 9:48 am
>OKINAWA: Departing from the sea front hotel amidst a slight morning
>drizzle, His Holiness visited the Konpacto and Bodaiju (Bodhi tree >park) at Okinawa Island in Japan. About 150 people came to the park for
>the event.
>His Holiness planted a tree sapling at the park and wrote a message of
>peace to the younger generations of Okinawan people.
>In the message His Holiness wrote, “No good result will come out from
>violence. Violence is not the correct way to solve your problems >and pursue your needs. The realistic way to solve problems is through
>dialogue”.
>His Holiness then visited the Himeyuri stupa and war museum. The
>Himeyuri stupa and war museum is dedicated to the hundreds of >Japanese teachers and students who were posted at Okinawa Island as
>nurses during the second world war. More than 227 young girls >died during that operation.
>In the afternoon, His Holiness gave a public talk on ‘The strength to
>overcome difficulties’ at the Kenritsu Budo hall. The talk was >organised by Dr Nagamunei and group. More than 5,000 people came to
>attend the talk.
>Addressing the public, His Holiness said “a calm mind is very
>important for a peaceful and happy life. Physical and material comfort >doesn’t necessarily guarantee 100% happiness”.
>His Holiness also said that neuroscientists in America has found out
>through an experiment that after practising compassion, stress and >blood pressures of people are reduced. So, a healthy mind is very
>crucial for a healthy body.
Da Lama should offer his advice, seriously, to his followers in those
monasteries where self-immolations have been repeatedly committed.
Note that seppuku, errrh, self-immolation, is a depraved form of
violence.
Da Lama should have offered his "compassion" recipe to those 15/16
year-olds and 18 year-olds who allegedly have committed seppuku, errrh, I
mean self-immolation, so that they could have had a way to reduce
whatever stress they had and hence their blood pressures. Had he done
that, those young lives would mostly be still living and breathing!
No, instead Da Lama did all he could to raise their stress by telling
the world that the Chinese government's policy of using the Chinese
language as the medium of teaching and learning was tantamount to
cultural genocide. Da Lama actively encouraged kids to become truant.
Instead of helping to establish guidelines and suicide-prevention
network, the kind of work Da Lama should be ready to offer as a form
of charity, especially when he charges western celebrities or exotic
faith seekers a lot of money for his advice, he has been
...
Discussion subject changed to "Da Lama rejects an independent Tibet, chanting "Middle Way is My Way" as he mingles with extremist Japanese and offers them a stress reduction recipe but not to his own headstrong and highly stressed people, gasp! Re: Pray for my [headstrong and ignorant] daughter [who committed self-immolation] to be reborn in independent Tibet" by lo yeeOn
Subject: Da Lama rejects an independent Tibet, chanting "Middle Way is My Way" as he mingles with extremist Japanese and offers them a stress reduction recipe but not to his own headstrong and highly stressed people, gasp! Re: Pray for my [headstrong and ignorant] daughter [who committed self-immolation] to be reborn in independent Tibet
In article <1761688.NBjzIIAMDz@Dharma>,
Peter Terpstra <pe...@dharma.dyndns.info> wrote:
>Pray for my daughter to be reborn in independent Tibet:
>Self-immolator’s father
>Phayul [Tuesday, November 13, 2012 14:39]
>DHARAMSHALA, November 13: Father of Tibetan self-immolator, Tamding Tso,
>who passed away in her fiery protest last week, has made >an emotional appeal, requesting people to pray for his daughter to be
>reborn in an independent Tibet in her next life.
It is so stupid! Da Lama doesn't want an "independent" Tibet. He
wants and his sycophants have echoed thus only a "genuine" autonomy
under Chinese sovereignty. So this poor man has died for naught!
It's so sad that Da Lama's followers are so ignorant! They don't
realize that Da Lama has been playing them like a bunch of yo-yos!
They don't realize that Da Lama does not have their interests at
heart. They don't realize that Da Lama is doing things only to make
his paymasters in the West happy.
According to Peter "Hard-Yards" Terpstra's story, the woman who
committed the grisly seppuku (hara-kiri), errrh, reincarnated as the
more iconic self-immolation, did so after having seen government
posters forbidding the display of Da Lama's photos and was visibly
angered by it.
To her, the announcment meant that she could not "pray before the
picture". So, she killed herself.
I see that she had an anger management problem. If Da Lama wants to
know why, the reason has been laid bare.
The headstrong woman, her father who never disciplined her in her
entire life - not even so much as having raised a finger at her by his
own admission - and those whom she interacted with have all been
taught the wrong ideas about living and values in general. It is
hardly the first time in history that the portrait of a certain
personage was forbidden from public display. If you have to pray
before Da Lama in order to retain your faith, then you have got the
wrong set of genes. According to Darwin, those who possess the genes
would not survive in the world which only accommodates the fittest.
According to "Hard-Yards",
Da Lama has lectured the public saying:
"...a calm mind is very>important for a peaceful and happy life.
Physical and material comfort doesn't necessarily guarantee 100%
happiness".
His Holiness also said that neuroscientists in America has found out
through an experiment that after practising compassion, stress and
blood pressures of people are reduced. So, a healthy mind is very
crucial for a healthy body.
Da Lama ought to offer his "compassion" practice secret to his
followers to help them reduce their stress and blood pressures.
Da Lama should value the health of his followers more than anyone else
as they seem to care more about his ten thousand year longevity rather
than their own short mortal lives. He should particularly care if he
wants to have one-sixth of China's current territory for his "genuine"
Tibetan autonomy when the able-minded/able-bodied Tibetans to take
charge of a state are already few and far in between.
So who does Da Lama think will be capable enough to pick up the task
of managing a state, however he wants to call it, if he got his wish
for a "genuine" autonomous Tibet in the end?
Does he think that a bunch of illiterates who are easy to anger
followed by suicide will be able to manage a power generation and
distribution authority and a transportation authority?
Or is Da Lama thinking that he can hire a bunch of American
contractors to manage his "genuinely autonomous" Tibet for him?
Does he realize that although the Tibetan monks and monasteries are
heavily subsidized by the Chinese government right now, he would have
to find another way to get the money to feed those consuming but not
producing monks and monasteries?
Does Da Lama think that those easy-to-anger-and-violence followers of
his won't also be angry and violent with him in the end if the Chinese
are out of the picture?
The truth is Da Lama doesn't care because he knows that he isn't going
to live for ten thousands of years and all he wants to do now is to
make his western paymasters happy, and no more!
The truth is the longer those ignorant followers of Da Lama have him,
the longer and the more they suffer!
>"I request you all to pray that may my daughter be reborn in an
>independent Tibet and hear and see His Holiness the Dalai Lama in her
>next life," Tamding Kyab said in a conversation with a group of local
>Tibetans who had come to offer their last respects.
>Earlier reports had indicated that a large number of Tibetans had
>visited Tamding Tso's home to pay their condolences and show their
>solidarity.
>Kyab said his daughter was "always concerned about Tibet's situation"
>and clearly stated that her self-immolation protest was for the
>"cause of Tibet and not for any family reasons."
>"What triggered her self-immolation," according to Kyab, was when
>both father and daughter went to the nearby Dowa town a month ago and
>"saw Chinese government posters reiterating the ban on pictures of
>the Dalai Lama and calling on Tibetans to publicly protest separatist
>forces and their activities."
>Kyab said his daughter was "visibly angered" and very saddened to see
>those posters, and recollected telling him: "Father, this is the sad
>destiny of Tibetan people. We can't even keep and pray before the
>picture of our spiritual leader His Holiness the Dalai Lama."
>A copy of the notice obtained by the Central Tibetan Administration
>reads, "the government imposes complete ban on keeping photos of His
>Holiness the Dalai Lama" and pledges to "maintain unity of the
>motherland and fight against the Dalai group's separatist activities.
>Tamding Tso, 23, mother of a seven-year-old son, later set herself on
>fire near the Ghe Mar thang in Dowa town at around 5.30 pm >(local time) on November 7 shouting, "His Holiness the Dalai Lama must
>come to Tibet."
>Before leaving her home that day, Kyab said Tamding Tso cleaned the
>house, offered prayers in front of His Holiness the Dalai Lama's >portrait and took petrol from their motorbike.
>"When I came to know about my daughter's self-immolation protest, it
>felt as if my heart was pulled out of my chest," Kyab said. "She was
>my favourite and most beloved daughter. I never raised even a finger
>on her since she was born."
>However, the aggrieved father said his daughter's decision was for
>the larger Tibetan cause and for the wish to see the return of the
>His Holiness the Dalai Lama and Panchen Lama on their thrones.
>"So, I think it is of no use to ponder over anything else than to
>respect her decision and sacrifice," Kyab added. "Therefore, I
>appeal to all of you to remain united and work together to fulfil her
>goals and aspirations."
Subject: Da Lama wants dialog (with China) while hobnobbing with
Japan's extremists - remember Yukio Mishima and his ilk and their
seppuku rituals - think self-immolations for Da Lama's ignorant
extremist followers - Da Lama has a credibility gap!
In article <2401128.rsoJvLfEtR@Dharma>,
Peter Terpstra <pe...@dharma.dyndns.info> wrote:
>Dialogue is only realistic way to solve problems, says His Holiness
>November 12, 2012 9:48 am
>OKINAWA: Departing from the sea front hotel amidst a slight morning
>drizzle, His Holiness visited the Konpacto and Bodaiju (Bodhi tree >park) at Okinawa Island in Japan. About 150 people came to the park for
>the event.
>His Holiness planted a tree sapling at the park and wrote a message of
>peace to the younger generations of Okinawan people.
>In the message His Holiness wrote, “No good result will come out from
>violence. Violence is not the correct way to solve your problems >and pursue your needs. The realistic way to solve problems is through
>dialogue”.
>His Holiness then visited the Himeyuri stupa and war museum. The
>Himeyuri stupa and war museum is dedicated to the hundreds of >Japanese teachers and students who were posted at Okinawa Island as
>nurses during the second world war. More than 227 young girls >died during that operation.
>In the afternoon, His Holiness gave a public talk on ‘The strength to
>overcome difficulties’ at the Kenritsu Budo hall. The talk was >organised by Dr Nagamunei and group. More than 5,000 people came to
>attend the talk.
>Addressing the public, His Holiness said “a calm mind is very
>important for a peaceful and happy life. Physical and material comfort >doesn’t necessarily guarantee 100% happiness”.
>His Holiness also said that neuroscientists in America has found out
>through an experiment that after practising compassion, stress and >blood pressures of people are reduced. So, a healthy mind is very
>crucial for a healthy body.
Da Lama should offer his advice, seriously, to his followers in those
monasteries where self-immolations have been repeatedly committed.
Note that seppuku, errrh, self-immolation, is a depraved form of
violence.
Da Lama should have offered his "compassion" recipe to those 15/16
year-olds and 18 year-olds who allegedly have committed seppuku, errrh, I
mean self-immolation, so that they could have had a way to reduce
whatever stress they had and hence their blood pressures. Had he done
that, those young lives would mostly be still living and breathing!
No, instead Da Lama did all he could to raise their stress by telling
the world that the Chinese government's policy of using the Chinese
language as the medium of teaching and learning was tantamount to
cultural genocide. Da Lama actively encouraged kids to become truant.
Instead of helping to establish guidelines and suicide-prevention
network, the kind of work Da Lama should be ready to offer as a form
of charity, especially when
...
Subject: Re: Da Lama rejects an independent Tibet, chanting "Middle Way is My Way" as he mingles with extremist Japanese and offers them a stress reduction recipe but not to his own headstrong and highly stressed people, gasp! Re: Pray for my [headstrong and ignorant] daughter [who committed self-immolation] to be reborn in independent Tibet
lo yeeOn wrote:
> Da Lama rejects an independent Tibet, chanting "Middle Way is My Way" as
> he mingles with extremist Japanese and offers them a stress reduction
> recipe but not to his own headstrong and highly stressed people.
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Subject: Da Lama is phony, speaking with a forked tongue Re: Da Lama rejects an independent Tibet, chanting "Middle Way is My Way" as he mingles with extremist Japanese and offers them a stress reduction recipe but not to his own headstrong and highly stressed people, gasp! Re: Pray for my [headstrong and ignorant] daughter [who committed self-immolation] to be reborn in independent Tibet
In article <1518534.HEW0nf4Ff3@Dharma>,
Peter Terpstra <pe...@dharma.dyndns.info> wrote:
>lo yeeOn wrote:
>> Da Lama rejects an independent Tibet, chanting "Middle Way is My Way" as
>> he mingles with extremist Japanese and offers them a stress reduction
>> recipe but not to his own headstrong and highly stressed people.
>Hahahaha :-)
>Love, Peter
It is indeed quite laughable to see that Da Lama flew a thousand miles
over to Japan, perform all kinds of frivolous ceremonies for his hosts
and even offer stress reduction advice to them while Da Lama's own
"people" were left behind in Tibet and also Dharamsala agonizing over
his absence. So much so that even 15 or 16 year olds who have never
seen Da Lama in their tender lives were allegedly so freaked out as to
have committed the ritual seppuku, errrh, Da Lama's preferred version
of ritual suicide by fire that is kind of equivalent to the Japanese
grisly seppuku, at least according to the TGIE's own sources.
I think there must have been some kind of unforgivable abuse in the
idea of reincarnation over there in Da Lama land. I am pretty sure
that the original Buddha did not receive an epiphany that told him to
tell his disciples that you have reincarnation for free, no more what
you have done to your own sacred life. I mean, life is so sacred that
when you ritualistically destroy it, you ought not have a second life
or a second chance for one, even if it were only something as low as
that of an earthworm! Why, because your mother who had not destroyed
her own so that she could give birth to you and did so with a great
deal of birth pain typically only ended up being an earthworm, at
least according to Da Lama and his high priests. So it would be
totally unfair and anti-karmic that she ended up only the way you
worthless scum would end up, who has wantonly destroyed the life she
gave you at a click of your cigarette lighter.
So, not only that it is delusional for you to believe that you could
reincarnate in a place of your own choosing, it is more likely that
you would never be reborn and never would have a chance to see the
beautiful Tibet again.
Also, think about how we've never heard that a high-level lama had
committed this kind of ritual suicide by fire, but only teenage boys
or nomads! You can see the iniquity in Da Lama's depraved scheme to
sacrifice the socially unimportant people for his own personal glory.
So to hell with Da Lama! Let the Tibetans wake up and take advantage
of the life and time that they have now and work for a better future
for themselves and their loved ones, just as the rest of the Chinese
people have been and are doing.
Employees of Huatailong Mining Development Co, a subsidiary of China
National Gold Group Corp, celebrating the Tibetan New Year with local
people in February. Located in Jiama town, Metrorkongka county, 68
kilometers from the center of Lhasa, the Huatailong mining project
benefits not only the local people working with the company but their
family members, including the local post-1980 and post-1990
generations. Provided to China Daily
Autonomous region has massive reserves of high-value minerals
Having bought a house in Lhasa and a brand-new car, Ngawang Tsering,
59, a Tibet resident, said he is grateful for what he owns.
"I don't have any special skills but I earn 2,000 yuan ($317) a month
by being an entrance guard at the mine," said the employee of
Huatailong Mining Development Co, a subsidiary company of China
National Gold Group Corp. "My life has changed so much for the better
since the mining company arrived."
He said there are seven people in his family and they all had a
nomadic life before with an annual income of a mere 20,000 yuan. Now
his son earns 5,000 yuan a month as a truck driver at Huatailong's
mining project in Jiama town, Metrorkongka county, 68 kilometers from
the center of Lhasa, the capital city of the Tibet autonomous region
Many local people like Ngawang Tsering see the exploration and
development of the region's resources benefiting not only themselves
but their family members, including the local post-1980 and post-1990
generations.
Tsering Dekyi, 24, said she feels lucky to be working at Huatailong
Mining after graduating.
"There are five people in my family and only my dad made money before
I got the job at the company," she said. "I went to Jiangsu province
to go to middle school and Tianjin for my high school. Because we were
poor, my brother and I could not both go to college."
She decided to let her younger brother go to college instead of her.
Tsering, aged 59, looks very happy and appears in excellent health
with great teeth to boot.
However, after she worked as an intern at Huatailong Mining, the
company decided to send her to Shenyang in Liaoning province to study
at the Northeastern University, majoring in mining engineering.
"State-owned companies have brought not only economic growth for
Tibet, but also the opportunities for local young people to benefit
economically and academically," said Tsering Dekyi. "This is a great
contribution."
She said that the mining industry in Tibet is essential for national
economic growth and she is keen to see every single ore mined here
fully used for the economy.
So far, Huatailong Mining has financed nine local young people to go
to college in inland areas. It also donated 740,000 yuan to improve
local people's daily lives and 550,000 yuan to local students in the
autonomous region.
To counter poverty and improve local employment, the company hired 191
locals in Tibet. There are 214 staff employees from non-Han ethnic
groups, which account for 35 percent of the company's staff, the
highest percentage among mining companies in China.
Before China Gold came to Jiama, there used to be many small-scale
private miners. Some locals made a living by driving trucks for a
transport business but because they were not well managed disputes
often broke out.
In December 2009, China Gold invested 16 million yuan in purchasing
the transport team and formed Jiama Industrial and Trading Co,
composed of all 655 families with 3,850 local people in
Jiama. Everyone has received a year-end bonus since 2009.
Apart from two people, all the managers, drivers and staff members in
the trading company are locals. Their average salaries can reach as
high as 4,000 yuan a month.
Lukhang Yeshe, a 29-year-old local who works at the company, told
China Daily that many employees at the company had bought their own
cars after one or two years of working.
"At the beginning, many people were against the mining projects in
Jiama, believing exploring the mines was not respectful to the
spirits," he said. "The situation has changed now. Most graduates in
Lhasa want to work at the mine, considering it to be a good job."
Environment
However, Jiama area has an average altitude of 3,900 meters above sea
level with the highest place at 5,300 meters, which makes both the
mining operation and environmental protection difficult.
"Equipment that operates at high altitudes is more expensive. The cost
of social security is more than other projects inland, too," said Chai
Liwei, who has worked for Huatailong Mining's safety department for
three years in Tibet.
He said the company has spent a lot on environment protection
including keeping the water clean and conserving the grass and sparing
no effort on minimizing the impact on nature.
In order to protect the grass, the company spent 200 million yuan on
an underground ore-delivering tunnel, which is 5.5 kilometers long and
varies in height by 397 meters.
The tunnel, the first of its kind in China, can deliver products from
the mining area directly to the ore treatment plants. It has an annual
delivery capacity of 2 million tons, said Teng Yongqing, general
manager of Huatailong.
He said the company spent 15 million yuan on greening projects around
the mine in 2011 and a total investment of 200 million yuan since 2007
on road greening, planting projects and drip irrigation facilities.
"National standards require that the environmental protection costs
should take up at least 3 percent of the total project investment for
mining companies," he said. "Huatailong has spent more than 11
percent, which is much higher than the national requirements."
Since its establishment in 2007, the company has been working on
environmental improvements in the Jiama area in order to build the
trust of local people and not inconvenience their lives.
The company spent 26.55 million yuan on building a road from the
national highway to Jiama and 6 million yuan on planting on both sides
of it about 4,000 willow trees that can survive in the plateau area.
It is hard to believe when driving along the road that it is a mining
area on the Qinghai-Tibet Plateau because there are more trees than in
some parts of Beijing.
The total plantation area covers 155,000 square meters, according to
the company, which made records of the survival rate of different
species of tree they planted. The survival percentage of some trees
such as the willow and redleaf cherry plum was raised from 50 percent
to 80 percent in 2012 after professional care.
In April, the company started planting up to 2,000 aspens in the area
to create more shade.
Mining projects
To help the local Tibet residents to have better living standards and
earn more, the company
...
Discussion subject changed to "Da Lama is phony, speaking with a forked tongue Re: Da Lama rejects an independent Tibet, chanting "Middle Way is My Way" as he mingles with extremist Japanese and offers them a stress reduction recipe but not to his own headstrong and highly stressed people, gasp! Re: Pray for my [headstrong and ignorant] daughter [who committed self-immolation] to be reborn in independent Tibet" by lo yeeOn
Subject: Da Lama is phony, speaking with a forked tongue Re: Da Lama rejects an independent Tibet, chanting "Middle Way is My Way" as he mingles with extremist Japanese and offers them a stress reduction recipe but not to his own headstrong and highly stressed people, gasp! Re: Pray for my [headstrong and ignorant] daughter [who committed self-immolation] to be reborn in independent Tibet
In article <1518534.HEW0nf4Ff3@Dharma>,
Peter Terpstra <pe...@dharma.dyndns.info> wrote:
>lo yeeOn wrote:
>> Da Lama rejects an independent Tibet, chanting "Middle Way is My Way" as
>> he mingles with extremist Japanese and offers them a stress reduction
>> recipe but not to his own headstrong and highly stressed people.
>Hahahaha :-)
>Love, Peter
It is indeed quite laughable to see that Da Lama flew a thousand miles
over to Japan, performed all kinds of frivolous ceremonies for his
hosts and even offered stress reduction advice to them while Da Lama's
own "people" were left behind in Tibet and also Dharamsala agonizing
over his absence. So much so that even 15 or 16 year olds who have
never seen Da Lama in their tender lives were allegedly so freaked out
as to have committed the ritual seppuku, errrh, Da Lama's preferred
version of ritual suicide by fire that is kind of equivalent to the
Japanese grisly seppuku, at least according to the TGIE's own sources.
I think there must have been some kind of unforgivable abuse in the
idea of reincarnation over there in Da Lama land. I am pretty sure
that the original Buddha did not receive an epiphany that told him to
tell his disciples that you have reincarnation for free, no more what
you have done to your own sacred life. I mean, life is so sacred that
when you ritualistically destroy it, you ought not have a second life
or a second chance for one, even if it were only something as low as
that of an earthworm! Why, because your mother who had not destroyed
her own so that she could give birth to you and did so with a great
deal of birth pain typically only ended up being an earthworm, at
least according to Da Lama and his high priests. So it would be
totally unfair and anti-karmic that she ended up only the way you
worthless scum would end up, who has wantonly destroyed the life she
gave you at a click of your cigarette lighter.
So, not only that it is delusional for you to believe that you could
reincarnate in a place of your own choosing, it is more likely that
you would never be reborn and never would have a chance to see
beautiful Tibet again.
Also, think about how we've never heard that a high-level lama had
committed this kind of ritual suicide by fire, but only teenage boys
or nomads! You can see the iniquity in Da Lama's depraved scheme to
sacrifice the socially unimportant people for his own personal glory.
So to hell with Da Lama! Let the Tibetans wake up and take advantage
of the life and time that they have now and work for a better future
for themselves and their loved ones, just as the rest of the Chinese
people have been and are doing.
Employees of Huatailong Mining Development Co, a subsidiary of China
National Gold Group Corp, celebrating the Tibetan New Year with local
people in February. Located in Jiama town, Metrorkongka county, 68
kilometers from the center of Lhasa, the Huatailong mining project
benefits not only the local people working with the company but their
family members, including the local post-1980 and post-1990
generations. Provided to China Daily
Autonomous region has massive reserves of high-value minerals
Having bought a house in Lhasa and a brand-new car, Ngawang Tsering,
59, a Tibet resident, said he is grateful for what he owns.
"I don't have any special skills but I earn 2,000 yuan ($317) a month
by being an entrance guard at the mine," said the employee of
Huatailong Mining Development Co, a subsidiary company of China
National Gold Group Corp. "My life has changed so much for the better
since the mining company arrived."
He said there are seven people in his family and they all had a
nomadic life before with an annual income of a mere 20,000 yuan. Now
his son earns 5,000 yuan a month as a truck driver at Huatailong's
mining project in Jiama town, Metrorkongka county, 68 kilometers from
the center of Lhasa, the capital city of the Tibet autonomous region
Many local people like Ngawang Tsering see the exploration and
development of the region's resources benefiting not only themselves
but their family members, including the local post-1980 and post-1990
generations.
Tsering Dekyi, 24, said she feels lucky to be working at Huatailong
Mining after graduating.
"There are five people in my family and only my dad made money before
I got the job at the company," she said. "I went to Jiangsu province
to go to middle school and Tianjin for my high school. Because we were
poor, my brother and I could not both go to college."
She decided to let her younger brother go to college instead of her.
Tsering, aged 59, looks very happy and appears in excellent health
with great teeth to boot.
However, after she worked as an intern at Huatailong Mining, the
company decided to send her to Shenyang in Liaoning province to study
at the Northeastern University, majoring in mining engineering.
"State-owned companies have brought not only economic growth for
Tibet, but also the opportunities for local young people to benefit
economically and academically," said Tsering Dekyi. "This is a great
contribution."
She said that the mining industry in Tibet is essential for national
economic growth and she is keen to see every single ore mined here
fully used for the economy.
So far, Huatailong Mining has financed nine local young people to go
to college in inland areas. It also donated 740,000 yuan to improve
local people's daily lives and 550,000 yuan to local students in the
autonomous region.
To counter poverty and improve local employment, the company hired 191
locals in Tibet. There are 214 staff employees from non-Han ethnic
groups, which account for 35 percent of the company's staff, the
highest percentage among mining companies in China.
Before China Gold came to Jiama, there used to be many small-scale
private miners. Some locals made a living by driving trucks for a
transport business but because they were not well managed disputes
often broke out.
In December 2009, China Gold invested 16 million yuan in purchasing
the transport team and formed Jiama Industrial and Trading Co,
composed of all 655 families with 3,850 local people in
Jiama. Everyone has received a year-end bonus since 2009.
Apart from two people, all the managers, drivers and staff members in
the trading company are locals. Their average salaries can reach as
high as 4,000 yuan a month.
Lukhang Yeshe, a 29-year-old local who works at the company, told
China Daily that many employees at the company had bought their own
cars after one or two years of working.
"At the beginning, many people were against the mining projects in
Jiama, believing exploring the mines was not respectful to the
spirits," he said. "The situation has changed now. Most graduates in
Lhasa want to work at the mine, considering it to be a good job."
Environment
However, Jiama area has an average altitude of 3,900 meters above sea
level with the highest place at 5,300 meters, which makes both the
mining operation and environmental protection difficult.
"Equipment that operates at high altitudes is more expensive. The cost
of social security is more than other projects inland, too," said Chai
Liwei, who has worked for Huatailong Mining's safety department for
three years in Tibet.
He said the company has spent a lot on environment protection
including keeping the water clean and conserving the grass and sparing
no effort on minimizing the impact on nature.
In order to protect the grass, the company spent 200 million yuan on
an underground ore-delivering tunnel, which is 5.5 kilometers long and
varies in height by 397 meters.
The tunnel, the first of its kind in China, can deliver products from
the mining area directly to the ore treatment plants. It has an annual
delivery capacity of 2 million tons, said Teng Yongqing, general
manager of Huatailong.
He said the company spent 15 million yuan on greening projects around
the mine in 2011 and a total investment of 200 million yuan since 2007
on road greening, planting projects and drip irrigation facilities.
"National standards require that the environmental protection costs
should take up at least 3 percent of the total project investment for
mining companies," he said. "Huatailong has spent more than 11
percent, which is much higher than the national requirements."
Since its establishment in 2007, the company has been working on
environmental improvements in the Jiama area in order to build the
trust of local people and not inconvenience their lives.
The company spent 26.55 million yuan on building a road from the
national highway to Jiama and 6 million yuan on planting on both sides
of it about 4,000 willow trees that can survive in the plateau area.
It is hard to believe when driving along the road that it is a mining
area on the Qinghai-Tibet Plateau because there are more trees than in
some parts of Beijing.
The total plantation area covers 155,000 square meters, according to
the company, which made records of the survival rate of different
species of tree they planted. The survival percentage of some trees
such as the willow and redleaf cherry plum was raised from 50 percent
to 80 percent in 2012 after professional care.
In April, the company started planting up to 2,000 aspens in the area
to create more shade.
Mining projects
To help the local Tibet residents to have better living standards and
earn more, the company
...
Subject: Da Lama is phony, speaking with a forked tongue Re: Da Lama rejects an independent Tibet, chanting "Middle Way is My Way" as he mingles with extremist Japanese and offers them a stress reduction recipe but not to his own headstrong and highly stressed people, gasp! Re: Pray for my [headstrong and ignorant] daughter [who committed self-immolation] to be reborn in independent Tibet
In article <15557373.Ld87JTLQuA@Dharma>,
Peter Terpstra <pe...@dharma.dyndns.info> wrote:
>lo yeeOn wrote:
>> Da Lama is phony, speaking with a forked tongue.
>Yes we know the rhetoric of the CCP.
Good! It is a truth. So if it is "the rhetoric of the CCP", then the
CCP has spoken the truth. That's win-win for the goodness of mankind.
I have contended that the CCP has a lot of credibility. Now you "Hard
Yards" have helped confirmed my thesis (see attachment below).
In article <1518534.HEW0nf4Ff3@Dharma>,
Peter Terpstra <pe...@dharma.dyndns.info> wrote:
>lo yeeOn wrote:
>> Da Lama rejects an independent Tibet, chanting "Middle Way is My Way" as
>> he mingles with extremist Japanese and offers them a stress reduction
>> recipe but not to his own headstrong and highly stressed people.
>Hahahaha :-)
>Love, Peter
It is indeed quite laughable to see that Da Lama flew a thousand miles
over to Japan, performed all kinds of frivolous ceremonies for his
hosts and even offered stress reduction advice to them while Da Lama's
own "people" were left behind in Tibet and also Dharamsala agonizing
over his absence. So much so that even 15 or 16 year olds who have
never seen Da Lama in their tender lives were allegedly so freaked out
as to have committed the ritual seppuku, errrh, Da Lama's preferred
version of ritual suicide by fire that is kind of equivalent to the
Japanese grisly seppuku, at least according to the TGIE's own sources.
I think there must have been some kind of unforgivable abuse in the
idea of reincarnation over there in Da Lama land. I am pretty sure
that the original Buddha did not receive an epiphany that told him to
tell his disciples that you have reincarnation for free, no more what
you have done to your own sacred life. I mean, life is so sacred that
when you ritualistically destroy it, you ought not have a second life
or a second chance for one, even if it were only something as low as
that of an earthworm! Why, because your mother who had not destroyed
her own so that she could give birth to you and did so with a great
deal of birth pain typically only ended up being an earthworm, at
least according to Da Lama and his high priests. So it would be
totally unfair and anti-karmic that she ended up only the way you
worthless scum would end up, who has wantonly destroyed the life she
gave you at a click of your cigarette lighter.
So, not only that it is delusional for you to believe that you could
reincarnate in a place of your own choosing, it is more likely that
you would never be reborn and never would have a chance to see
beautiful Tibet again.
Also, think about how we've never heard that a high-level lama had
committed this kind of ritual suicide by fire, but only teenage boys
or nomads! You can see the iniquity in Da Lama's depraved scheme to
sacrifice the socially unimportant people for his own personal glory.
So to hell with Da Lama! Let the Tibetans wake up and take advantage
of the life and time that they have now and work for a better future
for themselves and their loved ones, just as the rest of the Chinese
people have been and are doing.
Employees of Huatailong Mining Development Co, a subsidiary of China
National Gold Group Corp, celebrating the Tibetan New Year with local
people in February. Located in Jiama town, Metrorkongka county, 68
kilometers from the center of Lhasa, the Huatailong mining project
benefits not only the local people working with the company but their
family members, including the local post-1980 and post-1990
generations. Provided to China Daily
Autonomous region has massive reserves of high-value minerals
Having bought a house in Lhasa and a brand-new car, Ngawang Tsering,
59, a Tibet resident, said he is grateful for what he owns.
"I don't have any special skills but I earn 2,000 yuan ($317) a month
by being an entrance guard at the mine," said the employee of
Huatailong Mining Development Co, a subsidiary company of China
National Gold Group Corp. "My life has changed so much for the better
since the mining company arrived."
He said there are seven people in his family and they all had a
nomadic life before with an annual income of a mere 20,000 yuan. Now
his son earns 5,000 yuan a month as a truck driver at Huatailong's
mining project in Jiama town, Metrorkongka county, 68 kilometers from
the center of Lhasa, the capital city of the Tibet autonomous region
Many local people like Ngawang Tsering see the exploration and
development of the region's resources benefiting not only themselves
but their family members, including the local post-1980 and post-1990
generations.
Tsering Dekyi, 24, said she feels lucky to be working at Huatailong
Mining after graduating.
"There are five people in my family and only my dad made money before
I got the job at the company," she said. "I went to Jiangsu province
to go to middle school and Tianjin for my high school. Because we were
poor, my brother and I could not both go to college."
She decided to let her younger brother go to college instead of her.
Tsering, aged 59, looks very happy and appears in excellent health
with great teeth to boot.
However, after she worked as an intern at Huatailong Mining, the
company decided to send her to Shenyang in Liaoning province to study
at the Northeastern University, majoring in mining engineering.
"State-owned companies have brought not only economic growth for
Tibet, but also the opportunities for local young people to benefit
economically and academically," said Tsering Dekyi. "This is a great
contribution."
She said that the mining industry in Tibet is essential for national
economic growth and she is keen to see every single ore mined here
fully used for the economy.
So far, Huatailong Mining has financed nine local young people to go
to college in inland areas. It also donated 740,000 yuan to improve
local people's daily lives and 550,000 yuan to local students in the
autonomous region.
To counter poverty and improve local employment, the company hired 191
locals in Tibet. There are 214 staff employees from non-Han ethnic
groups, which account for 35 percent of the company's staff, the
highest percentage among mining companies in China.
Before China Gold came to Jiama, there used to be many small-scale
private miners. Some locals made a living by driving trucks for a
transport business but because they were not well managed disputes
often broke out.
In December 2009, China Gold invested 16 million yuan in purchasing
the transport team and formed Jiama Industrial and Trading Co,
composed of all 655 families with 3,850 local people in
Jiama. Everyone has received a year-end bonus since 2009.
Apart from two people, all the managers, drivers and staff members in
the trading company are locals. Their average salaries can reach as
high as 4,000 yuan a month.
Lukhang Yeshe, a 29-year-old local who works at the company, told
China Daily that many employees at the company had bought their own
cars after one or two years of working.
"At the beginning, many people were against the mining projects in
Jiama, believing exploring the mines was not respectful to the
spirits," he said. "The situation has changed now. Most graduates in
Lhasa want to work at the mine, considering it to be a good job."
Environment
However, Jiama area has an average altitude of 3,900 meters above sea
level with the highest place at 5,300 meters, which makes both the
mining operation and environmental protection difficult.
"Equipment that operates at high altitudes is more expensive. The cost
of social security is more than other projects inland, too," said Chai
Liwei, who has worked for Huatailong Mining's safety department for
three years in Tibet.
He said the company has spent a lot on environment protection
including keeping the water clean and conserving the grass and sparing
no effort on minimizing the impact on nature.
In order to protect the grass, the company spent 200 million yuan on
an underground ore-delivering tunnel, which is 5.5 kilometers long and
varies in height by 397 meters.
The tunnel, the first of its kind in China, can deliver products from
the mining area directly to the ore treatment plants. It has an annual
delivery capacity of 2 million tons, said Teng Yongqing, general
manager of Huatailong.
He said the company spent 15 million yuan on greening projects around
the mine in 2011 and a total investment of 200 million yuan since 2007
on road greening, planting projects and drip irrigation facilities.
"National standards require that the environmental protection costs
should take up at least 3 percent of the total project investment for
mining companies," he said. "Huatailong has spent more than 11
percent, which is much higher than the national requirements."
Since its establishment in 2007, the company has been working on
environmental improvements in the Jiama area in order to build the
trust of local people and not inconvenience their lives.
The company spent 26.55 million yuan on building a road from the
national highway to Jiama and 6 million yuan on planting on both sides
of it about 4,000 willow trees that can survive in the plateau area.
It is hard to believe when driving along the road that it is a mining
area on the Qinghai-Tibet Plateau
...