Message from discussion What the media isn't saying about events in Waco.

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From: garr...@Ingres.COM (THIS ISN'T ALL TRUE)
Subject: Re: What the media isn't saying about events in Waco.
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Date: 5 Mar 93 04:45:43 GMT
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In article <1n6d6lINN...@shelley.u.washington.edu>, divi...@carson.u.washington.edu (Pat writes...
>And now for something completely different, i.e. something other than the
>nonsense the Government and the mainstream media would have us believe.
> 
>Libernet Digest             Wed,  3 Mar 93       Volume  60: Issue  13
>Today's Topics:
>             Waco, Texas: what you don't hear on the news
> 
[lots of good stuff deleted]

I would like to add two more things. 
1) The BD group claimed that the BATF fired first. Someone else posted
    just a few days ago that the BATF threw concussion grenades before 
    storming the compound originally, and then later denied it.
2) The longer the standoff goes on, the better it is for the BD if what
   alot of us suspect is true, the BD isn't the violent cult that the media
   portrays them as. Givin time, the truth will come out. 

>There are a lot of inconsistencies in what is going on here. I am sure what
>I have reported here only causes you to ask more questions. For example,
>(1) Why not arrest the leader when he leaves the compound? It is reported
>he jogs 2-3 times a week as far away as 2-3 miles from the compound. (2) If
>they really had a .50 caliber MG, why didn't the BATF know ahead of time,
>if they were training for months before this raid? (3) Why not use snipers
>to pick off the people in the tower? (4) Why raid in the daylight?  (5) Why
>raid at all? This reminds me a lot of the MOVE confrontation in
>Philadelphia 10+ years ago.
> 
That's exactly what me and my roommate were talking about last night.

>As for the BATF claim that the BD group has a .50 caliber heavy machine gun
>in their lookout tower, I have not seen or heard it from the TV footage.

Why hasn't this TV footage been broadcast all over? This would be good stuff.
Nobody I know has seen it.

>But who knows.  It wouldn't surprise me if after all this is over,
>the BATF shows one to the media. We may never know the truth.
>
Even if they show a 50 caliber to the media when this is over, I would still
be suspicious. This has been a major embarrassment for the BATF. They 
would need to prove what they claim just to save face. Just like a cop 
carrying a "throw-down." It happens.

>It is obvious a cover-up is starting. The media is being kept over 1.5
>miles away. The court records ordering the search have been sealed. Some of
>the media, (give them credit), are starting to ask questions.
> 
>This is a MAJOR defeat for the BATF. As most know, and as 60 Minutes
>reported a few weeks ago, this agency has severe moral problems, and
>commits plenty of crimes. I still remember that former BATF agent saying he
>had more respect for the criminals that run guns and sell drugs, than for
>BATF management.

I didn't know anything about this either. Can you elaborate?

> 
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