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Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 05:39:58 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 110 Message-ID: <2gnpq71d7471fe4n4l2dgi24fqfhsnbmmg@4ax.com> References: <165lq7pa4f94b3o8kk0pc3qlvasc499k53@4ax.com> <8t2nq79sa9j07rk6vfrq3f0gm7a6ptt64h@4ax.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Injection-Info: mx04.eternal-september.org; posting-host="huuoOKF6z4rW2fNHfmKZNA"; logging-data="1424"; mail-complaints-to="ab...@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+DuI7sX3REE1p7VTDmVqPKG7/Gk+cW/YM=" X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 3.3/32.846 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 120510-1, 05/10/2012), Outbound message Cancel-Lock: sha1:kHFkIWJf6xHqwcXLJtc03SPl4Ew= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Thu, 10 May 2012 05:35:34 -0400, NoBody wrote: >On Wed, 9 May 2012 18:52:15 +0000 (UTC), 2966 Dead >wrote: > >>On Wed, 09 May 2012 12:13:57 -0400, Mr.B1ack wrote: >> >>> 2966 Dead wrote: >>> >>>>On Wed, 09 May 2012 09:12:26 -0400, Mr.B1ack wrote: >>>> >>>>> 2966 Dead wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On Tue, 08 May 2012 14:16:51 -0400, Mr.B1ack wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> 2966 Dead wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>On Tue, 08 May 2012 11:23:00 -0400, Mr.B1ack wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "Sid9" wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>"Mr.B1ack" wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>news:pekgq7pbsk58ldr1v3ispk20uie318mj1n@4ax.com... >>>>>>>>>>> I can just see that huge lightning-bolt from Zeus headed down >>>>>>>>>>> towards Athens right now ...... his response to such an extreme >>>>>>>>>>> of human stupidity. What kind of fools believe you can simply >>>>>>>>>>> demand more 'Free Everything' instead of having to earn their >>>>>>>>>>> rewards ? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Try some facts. I know it's tough for RRRs but, try anyway: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>January 6, 2012, 12:53 pm >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Under Obama, a Record Decline in Government Jobs >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Um ... how'd we get from Athens to DC ???? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> And I don't mind 'govt jobs' so much as long as people are >>>>>>>>> doing/producing *something* of general value. But should the >>>>>>>>> lowliest govt (or private) worker be getting a giant barrel >>>>>>>>> full of 'free' perks ? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>And there is the basis for Blackie's hatred of government jobs: it >>>>>>>>makes most private sector jobs look like utter shit, which they are. >>>>>>>>Barkie is here to sneer at us that we don't DESERVE good >>>>>>>>compensation for work. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Eh ? I'm all for decent compensation for work done. >>>>>>> I think we may disagree on what 'decent' means however. >>>>>> >>>>>>Heh. yeah, I'm sure we do. You, after all, believe that the minimum >>>>>>wage, unions, and other labor fair practices should be abolished, >>>>>>essentially creating a worker/slave class. >>>>> >>>>> No, I've advocated a minimum wage before and I'll do so again. >>>>> People are *cheapskates*, >>>>> even without trying to be 'evil' or anything like that. If they can >>>>> get some guy to clean toilets for five bucks an hour they'll soon >>>>> wonder if somebody will do it for three bucks an hour. >>>>> >>>>> Now I know you like to think that every guy who owns a corner >>>>> hardware store is making umpteen million bucks a year by horribly >>>>> exploiting his employees and ripping off the public - evil >>>>> capitalist bastards. Of course this is total bunk. Most business >>>>> owners are not 'rich' and a lot are always in debt from taking out >>>>> biz loans ... and living off whatever doesn't go to the bank that >>>>> month. >>>>> >>>>> They CAN'T raise prices much or their customers will got to >>>>> Wal-Mart instead. Likewise they CAN'T pay employees thirty bucks an >>>>> hour to stock shelves because then they'd have to raise prices too >>>>> much - or starve and default on their loans. If the biz folds, the >>>>> owner is still stuck with the loans and property taxes and >>>>> insurance and unsold inventory and all the other expensive >>>>> incidentals. >>>>> >>>>> This is the typical picture of 'business' in America for both >>>>> owner/managers and employees - gettin' by OK, maybe, but not and >>>>> never anywhere near buying a LearJet. >>>> >>>>Do tell. It's one of the reasons why people get annoyed when >>>>Republicans try to deflect criticism of Bank of America by accusing the >>>>critics of attacking Bob's Dry Goods down on the corner. >>> >>> And Dems NEVER lump Bob in with BOA when it comes to punitive tax and >>> reg schemes ..... no ........ >> >>No, actually, they don't. Even people in Occupy realize that most of the >>group called "the one percent" are their allies. The real problem is the >>0.01%--and not even all of them. > >They why do they smash windows of local businesses? > >http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-occupy-protests,0,4466256.storygallery > >>> >>> But let's not confuse politics-as-usual with biz and economic >>> realities. Get hung up in the web of illusion politicians create and >>> there'll never be a way to escape or accomplish anything useful. >> >>In other words, you want to continue to assign your stereotype to >>Democrats. > >Irony anyone? It's just amazing how many threads Zippo flees....