Greenland Melt Volume Doubled 1994-2005
Harry Hope
http://news.mongabay.com/2009/1214-hance_greenmelt.html
December 14, 2009
Sea levels set to rise more than expected due to 'deeply surprising'
Greenland melt
By Jeremy Hance
A new study by the Arctic Monitoring and Assessment Program estimates
that the sea will rise by 0.5 to 1.5 meters by 2100, threatening
coastal cities and flooding island nations.
This is double the predicted rise estimated by the UN's
Intergovernmental Panel on climate Change (IPCC) in 2007, which did
not incorporate sea level rise due to the melting of Greenland and
Antarctica's ice sheets.
Most surprisingly, the study found that discharge from Greenland had
increased by 30 percent over the last decade:
jumping from 330 billion giga tons in 1995 to 430 billion giga tons in
2005.
"We know that the Arctic has warmed enormously over the past 50 years
and that the temperatures over Greenland have increased by more than
twice the global average. Despite these observations, it is deeply
surprising and worrying to see the pace of the changes in the
Greenland Ice Sheet", lead author, Professor Dorthe Dahl-Jensen,
University of Copenhagen said in a press release.
The study highlights the importance of continuing research on melting
ice in Greenland.
"Greenland�s Ice Sheet is the single largest body of freshwater ice in
the northern hemisphere. It contains around 3 million km of ice and,
if it were to melt completely, this would cause global sea level to
rise by roughly 7 meters [�] Already now we are seeing how the areas
experiencing surface melt are expanding northwards and that the
periods of melt in southern Greenland are getting longer. The
development in the last decade has taken scientists by surprise and it
is still uncertain how the ice will react to future climate change.
Therefore, it is essential to intensify the ice sheet research,"
explains Dorthe Dahl-Jensen.
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Harry
tunderbar
yeah yeah, the world is ending, yada yada yada......
lab~rat >:-)
>>yeah yeah, the world is ending, yada yada yada......
>
>
> Ever notice how it's ALWAYS ending ? Seems like every
> generation invents its signature world-ending crisis
> to worry about. Too hot, too cold, meteors, plagues,
> nukes, commies, volcanoes or maybe Jeezus or Kali or
> the ice giants comin' back .....
>
> I'm reminded of that line from 'The Matrix' where
> the evil agent remarks about how humans just can't
> STAND to be happy. :-)
I wish they'd bring the killer meteorite scare back. That one was a
lot more fun. There was nothing you could do, the government couldn't
tax you over it, and BAM! Out of nowhere the lights go out.
Not to mention, the extinctor meteorite movies were always a lot
better than the goofy global warming ones...
--
lab~rat >:-)
Do you want polite or do you want sincere?
columbiaaccidentinvestigation
they'd bring the killer meteorite scare back."
false assertions made about weapons of mass destruction work pretty
well, eh.
lab~rat >:-)
columbiaaccidentinvestigation
<columbiaaccide...@yahoo.com> puked:
>On Dec 16, 6:39ÔøΩam, "lab~rat >:-)" <ch...@cheeze.net> wrote: "I wish
>they'd bring the killer meteorite scare back."
>
>false assertions made about weapons of mass destruction work pretty
>well, eh.
Yeah, but that wasn't any fun. It cost a lot of money that they
confiscate from us. A meteorite scare my cost a couple billion in sky
scanning operations tops.
As the taxpaying public, we should demand that the government bring
back fiscally responsible scare tactics.
Lamont Cranston
news:a3656d27-655e-4e28...@1g2000vbe.googlegroups.com
>> in the northern hemisphere. It contains around 3 million km of ice
>> and, if it were to melt completely, this would cause global sea
>> the areas experiencing surface melt are expanding northwards and
>> that the periods of melt in southern Greenland are getting longer.
>> The development in the last decade has taken scientists by surprise
>> and it is still uncertain how the ice will react to future climate
>> change. Therefore, it is essential to intensify the ice sheet
>> research," explains Dorthe Dahl-Jensen.
>>
>> _________________________________________________________
>>
>> Harry
>
> yeah yeah, the world is ending, yada yada yada......
...says another wingnut with her head planted firmly in her ass.
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Last Post
>
> December 14, 2009
>
> Sea levels set to rise more than expected due to 'deeply surprising'
> Greenland melt
>
> By Jeremy Hance
>
> A new study by the Arctic Monitoring and Assessment Program estimates
> that the sea will rise by 0.5 to 1.5 meters by 2100, threatening
> coastal cities and flooding island nations.
>
brought by bad data and biased
computer programs.
•• It presumes a melting Greenland that
just isn't happening. Ten+ years ago it
was a Greenland fjord that was about to
break. That didn't happen and and
conveniently forgot. Now it is a melt
that is not happening. Those turkeys
see the summer snow melt from their
satellite and think it is ice in January.
•• There is nothing like boots on the
ground to get the whole story.
Last Post
On Dec 16, 1:03 pm, "S. Caro" <sc...@mux-net-88.com> wrote:
> Harry Hope wrote:
>
> >http://news.mongabay.com/2009/1214-hance_greenmelt.html
>
> > December 14, 2009
>
> > Sea levels set to rise more than expected due to 'deeply surprising'
> > Greenland melt
>
> More proof that Obama should pledge $500 Billion U.S. taxpayer
> dollars to help poor nations fight global warming rather than
> the $200 Billion taxpayer dollars that they are asking for.
>
•• Since Global warming is a myth and does not exist.
On the other hand "Climate Change" is functioning
as it has for 5 million years or more.
— —
| In real science the burden of proof is always
| on the proposer, never on the sceptics. So far
| neither IPCC nor anyone else has provided one
| iota of valid data for global warming nor have
| they provided data that climate change is being
| effected by commerce and industry, and not by
| natural phenomena
Firelock
> On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 07:02:30 -0800 (PST),
> columbiaaccidentinvestigation
>
> >On Dec 16, 6:39Êam, "lab~rat >:-)" <ch...@cheeze.net> wrote: "I wish
> >they'd bring the killer meteorite scare back."
>
> >false assertions made about weapons of mass destruction work pretty
> >well, eh.
>
> Yeah, but that wasn't any fun. It cost a lot of money that they
> confiscate from us. A meteorite scare my cost a couple billion in sky
> scanning operations tops.
I like what we get out of sky scanning technology. Space
science rocks, even when it doesn't find any killer rocks.
> As the taxpaying public, we should demand that the government bring
> back fiscally responsible scare tactics.
Hear hear!!
--
Walt
lab~rat >:-)
<firel...@hotmail.com> puked:
>On Dec 16, 11:03ÔøΩam, "lab~rat >:-)" <ch...@cheeze.net> wrote:
>> On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 07:02:30 -0800 (PST),
>> columbiaaccidentinvestigation
>> <columbiaaccidentinvestigat...@yahoo.com> puked:
>>
>> >On Dec 16, 6:39ÔøΩam, "lab~rat ÔøΩ>:-)" <ch...@cheeze.net> wrote: "I wish
>> >they'd bring the killer meteorite scare back."
>>
>> >false assertions made about weapons of mass destruction work pretty
>> >well, eh.
>>
>> Yeah, but that wasn't any fun. ÔøΩIt cost a lot of money that they
>> confiscate from us. ÔøΩA meteorite scare my cost a couple billion in sky
>> scanning operations tops.
>
>I like what we get out of sky scanning technology. Space
>science rocks, even when it doesn't find any killer rocks.
Yeah, but it all but kills it for amateur comet hunters. My dream in
life is to discover a new comet. You know, you get to name them if
you find them. It would be great to find a new short period comet and
call it "Earth Annihilator" or something.
Every five years the news would report the "Earth Annihilator" is on
its way...
Bret Cahill
Fred Weiss
> > "We know that the Arctic has warmed enormously over the past 50 years
> > and that the temperatures over Greenland have increased by more than
> > twice the global average.
Real estate in Greenland should therefore skyrocket in value.
I wonder how many enviroHysterics actually believe the crap they are
constantly spewing - and putting their money where their mouths are.
> > Therefore, it is essential to intensify the ice sheet research,"
> > explains Dorthe Dahl-Jensen.
Translation: send gobs of more grant money. "More hysterical data
guaranteed or double your money back".
Fred Weiss
columbiaaccidentinvestigation
> On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 10:41:23 -0800 (PST), Firelock
>
>
>
>
>
> >On Dec 16, 11:03 am, "lab~rat >:-)" <ch...@cheeze.net> wrote:
> >> On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 07:02:30 -0800 (PST),
> >> columbiaaccidentinvestigation
> >> <columbiaaccidentinvestigat...@yahoo.com> puked:
>
> >> >they'd bring the killer meteorite scare back."
>
> >> >false assertions made about weapons of mass destruction work pretty
> >> >well, eh.
>
> >> confiscate from us. A meteorite scare my cost a couple billion in sky
> >> scanning operations tops.
>
> >I like what we get out of sky scanning technology. Space
> >science rocks, even when it doesn't find any killer rocks.
>
> Yeah, but it all but kills it for amateur comet hunters. My dream in
> life is to discover a new comet. You know, you get to name them if
> you find them. It would be great to find a new short period comet and
> call it "Earth Annihilator" or something.
>
> Every five years the news would report the "Earth Annihilator" is on
> its way...
> --
> lab~rat >:-)
>
> - Show quoted text -
great, a man in it for the science...
Bret Cahill
> > > "We know that the Arctic has warmed enormously over the past 50 years
> > > and that the temperatures over Greenland have increased by more than
> > > twice the global average.
>
> Real estate in Greenland should therefore skyrocket in value.
Whatever happened to deniergate, er, I mean climategate?
You can't have it both ways.
> I wonder how many enviroHysterics actually believe the crap they are
> constantly spewing - and putting their money where their mouths are.
No one is going to believe the mutually contradictory crap deniers put
out.
Orval Fairbairn
<4cf59a36-bebf-463a...@f6g2000vbp.googlegroups.com>,
Last Post <last...@primus.ca> wrote:
Anybody ever hear of the "Lost Squadron"?
It was a flight of two B-17s and four P-38s that force-landed on the
Greenland icecap in WW-II.
About 15 years ago, some entrepreneurs set about to recover the planes,
as original WW-II warbirds go for a good price. They expected to go out
onto the icecap, scrape a little ice and snow off them, and eother fly
them away or pack them out.
SURPRISE! The planes were buried under at least 100 feet of ice/snow!
Now, just WHERE was the "melting icecap?"
--
Remove _'s from email address to talk to me.
bigfl...@gmail.com
> >http://news.mongabay.com/2009/1214-hance_greenmelt.html
I see Al Gore(mless) actually screwed up scientific quotes while
actually adressing a group in Denmark.
Must fill people with great confidence.
BOfL
tg
All the ice and snow on the planet, including Greenland and
Antarctica, all the mountain glaciers and snowpacks, and all the sea
ice, could melt, drowning all the coasts everywhere, with no change in
temperature.
And this would be seen as evidence that 'global warming' is a fraud by
the Limbobots.
sigh....
-tg
lab~rat >:-)
columbiaaccidentinvestigation
<columbiaaccide...@yahoo.com> puked:
>On Dec 16, 11:20ÔøΩam, "lab~rat >:-)" <ch...@cheeze.net> wrote:
>> On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 10:41:23 -0800 (PST), Firelock
>> <firelock...@hotmail.com> puked:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >On Dec 16, 11:03 am, "lab~rat ÔøΩ>:-)" <ch...@cheeze.net> wrote:
>> >> On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 07:02:30 -0800 (PST),
>> >> columbiaaccidentinvestigation
>> >> <columbiaaccidentinvestigat...@yahoo.com> puked:
>>
>> >> >On Dec 16, 6:39 am, "lab~rat >:-)" <ch...@cheeze.net> wrote: "I wish
>> >> >they'd bring the killer meteorite scare back."
>>
>> >> >false assertions made about weapons of mass destruction work pretty
>> >> >well, eh.
>>
>> >> Yeah, but that wasn't any fun. It cost a lot of money that they
>> >> confiscate from us. A meteorite scare my cost a couple billion in sky
>> >> scanning operations tops.
>>
>> >I like what we get out of sky scanning technology. ÔøΩSpace
>> >science rocks, even when it doesn't find any killer rocks.
>>
>> Yeah, but it all but kills it for amateur comet hunters. ÔøΩMy dream in
>> life is to discover a new comet. ÔøΩYou know, you get to name them if
>> you find them. ÔøΩIt would be great to find a new short period comet and
>> call it "Earth Annihilator" or something.
>>
>> Every five years the news would report the "Earth Annihilator" is on
>> its way...
>> --
>> lab~rat ÔøΩ>:-)
>> Do you want polite or do you want sincere?- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
>great, a man in it for the science...
Call it a sociology experiment that keeps giving.
lab~rat >:-)
<chine...@yahoo.com> puked:
>In article <47shi5dag2can48vi...@4ax.com>,
> "lab~rat >:-)" <ch...@cheeze.net> wrote:
>
>> I wish they'd bring the killer meteorite scare back. That one was a
>
>http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory?id=9263284
>
>WISE will catalog the locations and sizes of near-Earth objects such as
>asteroids and comets that could threaten Earth.
>
>The spacecraft will also look for failed stars called brown dwarfs, gaseous
>balls that never quite gathered enough mass to set off the nuclear fires that
>cause stars to shine. Also of interest are galaxies that shine with the
>brilliance of more than a trillion suns.
Big waste of money. How long do you think it would take to initiate
and execute a plan if we found a rock with our name on it?
Not to mention, I'm a big fan of evolution. Who's to say that we have
the right to interfere with the next era of development on planet
Earth?
lab~rat >:-)
<o_r_fairbairn@earth_link.net> puked:
>In article
><4cf59a36-bebf-463a...@f6g2000vbp.googlegroups.com>,
> Last Post <last...@primus.ca> wrote:
>
>> On Dec 15, 3:46ÔøΩpm, Harry Hope <riv...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>> > http://news.mongabay.com/2009/1214-hance_greenmelt.html
>> >
>> > December 14, 2009
>> >
>> > Sea levels set to rise more than expected due to 'deeply surprising'
>> > Greenland melt
>> >
>> > By Jeremy Hance
>> >
>> > A new study by the Arctic Monitoring and Assessment Program estimates
>> > that the sea will rise by 0.5 to 1.5 meters by 2100, threatening
>> > coastal cities and flooding island nations.
>> >
>> ÔøΩÔøΩ Just another bit of bullshit alarmism
>> brought by bad data and biased
>> computer programs.
>>
>> ÔøΩÔøΩ It presumes a melting Greenland that
>> just isn't happening. Ten+ years ago it
>> was a Greenland fjord that was about to
>> break. That didn't happen and and
>> conveniently forgot. Now it is a melt
>> that is not happening. Those turkeys
>> see the summer snow melt from their
>> satellite and think it is ice in January.
>>
>> ÔøΩÔøΩ There is nothing like boots on the
>> ground to get the whole story.
>
>Anybody ever hear of the "Lost Squadron"?
>
>It was a flight of two B-17s and four P-38s that force-landed on the
>Greenland icecap in WW-II.
>
>About 15 years ago, some entrepreneurs set about to recover the planes,
>as original WW-II warbirds go for a good price. They expected to go out
>onto the icecap, scrape a little ice and snow off them, and eother fly
>them away or pack them out.
>
>SURPRISE! The planes were buried under at least 100 feet of ice/snow!
>
>Now, just WHERE was the "melting icecap?"
http://www.b-29s-over-korea.com/lost_squadron/lost_squadron.html
Interesting story, I never heard that before.
Bret Cahill
>
> I see Al Gore(mless) actually screwed up scientific quotes while
> actually adressing a group in Denmark.
> Must fill people with great confidence.
The misanthrope will probably be proven correct but not because he
knows what he's talking about.
Think of it as being like a scab shot in pool.
Bret Cahill
Bret Cahill
Discussing science with creationists, birthers and AGW conspiracy
theory wingers dingers will always be a joke.
Bret Cahill
Last Post
>
> December 14, 2009
>
> Sea levels set to rise more than expected due to 'deeply surprising'
> Greenland melt
>
> By Jeremy Hance
>
> A new study by the Arctic Monitoring and Assessment Program estimates
> that the sea will rise by 0.5 to 1.5 meters by 2100, threatening
> coastal cities and flooding island nations.
•• Just another bullshit "maybe"
More "gloom and doom" for
the Copenhagen bullshit fest.
Tim
> On Dec 16, 4:02 pm, Bret Cahill <BretCah...@peoplepc.com> wrote:
>
> > > "We know that the Arctic has warmed enormously over the past 50 years
> > > and that the temperatures over Greenland have increased by more than
> > > twice the global average.
>
> Real estate in Greenland should therefore skyrocket in value.
Not if it's underwater, stupid.
.
>
> I wonder how many enviroHysterics actually believe the crap they are
> constantly spewing - and putting their money where their mouths are.
>
Why are you surprised. You obviously believe the crap you spew:
infinite resources, world going randroid, world pop. in Texas, and let
us not forget that famous non-talking savage who is full of questions.
Snicker
> > > Therefore, it is essential to intensify the ice sheet research,"
> > > explains Dorthe Dahl-Jensen.
>
> Translation: send gobs of more grant money. "More hysterical data
> guaranteed or double your money back".
>
Translation: close your eyes and ears and everything will be okay,
typical randroid mentality.
> Fred Weiss
Last Post
> On Dec 16, 4:11 pm, Fred Weiss <fredwe...@papertig.com> wrote:
>
> > On Dec 16, 4:02 pm, Bret Cahill <BretCah...@peoplepc.com> wrote:
>
> > > > "We know that the Arctic has warmed enormously over the past 50 years
> > > > and that the temperatures over Greenland have increased by more than
> > > > twice the global average.
•• You know nothing and see nothing saved perhaps
gumdrops and lollypops dancing in your heads
> > Real estate in Greenland should therefore skyrocket in value.
>
> Not if it's underwater, stupid.
•• That will not happen in the next 100 millenia