THE NAZI RELIGION RESURFACES IN SATANIC RITUAL MURDER *PIC*
National Socialism: The Leviathan Reappears
"We come now to the Nazi movement, which is, in its possibilities of
destruction, the most urgent challenge the human mind will ever have
to face. Nazi Germany may well bring down conclusive disaster on our
species", wrote H.G. Wells in The Fate Of Man, 1939. About Adolph
Hitler, he said "he shows all the symptoms of a recognized form of sex
mania, the jealous fear and hate".
However, as Wells adds, "insanity has its advantages as well as its
handicaps. It involves an abnormal concentration of purpose and
nervous energy. In its phase of mania it abolishes or at least defers
fatigue and sustains long spells of sleepless vigilance and
penetrating distrust far beyond the compass of the normal man."
"The Nazi movement, or something essentially like it," wrote Wells in
Chapter Fifteen, titled 'The Nazi Religion', "was inevitable." And he
provides the "why ?" of this statement.
National Socialism in Germany became inevitable "because [Germany] had
a greater surplus of young people without reasonable hope of life than
any other country in the world. They had no colonies to go to, no
great business enterprises to develop; no employment of any sort.
There you have the primary conditions for a desperate outbreak." What
Wells did not add in this paragraph, but which he examined elsewhere,
is the fact that these "young people," meaning mostly young men in
post-war Germany, had been well-educated or were still in the
educational system there when National Socialism took hold. Beginning
in the 1930 local elections, the Nazi leadership recruited these
jobless young men and their middle-class parents, according to William
Sheridan Allen.
Many other writers and students of National Socialism have attempted
to explain the hypnotic appeal of Adolph Hitler's brand of National
Socialism: but these ways of analysis almost never delve into the Nazi
fascination with the occult and with "mystical symbols"
Wells shows that National Socialism under Adolph Hitler and his
coterie of obsessive Organization Men, chose "to apply the conception
of the Chosen People to the Germanic world. The Nazi [party] took that
over in one magnificent plagiarism. The Slavic Prussians, the Alpine
Bavarians, the melange of Gothic and Celtic peoples in the Rhineland,
discovered that they were one, single, pure race of beautiful blonds.
They knew that in spite of appearances they had lovely, pure, blond
souls. They turned upon the Jews and all foreigners with the
completest paraphrase of the old Bible nationalism."
Wells writes that the National Socialist movement, and the Nazi
government, became "fundamentally Biblical [as] a militant Chosen
People." This is his way of expressing damnation and it is not,
repeat, not praise. Wells was most certainly an advocate of world-
around socialism, and democracy. And yet Wells must admit that
National Socialism was deeply dependent on, embedded with, "social
democracy."
The Nazi movement began by winning street battles against Communists
and left-wing socialists, and concluded its rise to power by winning
elections throughout Germany. Such are the vagaries of pure democracy,
and such are the risks in advocating "a Democracy" over any republican
form of limited and restricted governance. There is a message in that
for those Chickenhawks who are so assiduously preaching "democracy" to
the Shi'ite majority in Iraq.
H.G. Wells summarizes his view of what is to come, in this book from
1939, on the eve of a general European war, this way:
"The complete de-Christianization of the entire Reich, of southern as
of northern Germany, is, I think, the greater probability."
The Order of the Illuminati Masquerades Under The Swastika
Now step backwards in time, to the book written by Professor John
Robison in 1798, Proofs Of A Conspiracy -- and compare what Wells
wrote in The Fate Of Man, with Robison's judgement of Adam Weishaupt
and The Order of the Illuminati --
"... purity of heart and life is no part of the morality that is held
forth as the perfection of human nature. The final abolition of
Christianity is ... one of its objects."
Other writers and commentators have elaborated, very well, on the
masterful manipulation of images and imagery which characterizes the
modern regime of The Order of the Illuminati. Propaganda,
entertainment, and pop culture in particular, provide the basis of its
domination of the social-political alliance which is called "the New
World Order."
"Toughness is as much in the German tradition as it was in the
Spartans", wrote Wells. Recall now that Adam Weishaupt chose for
himself the moniker of "Spartacus", when he and others founded The
Order of the Illuminati in Germany. And what did Wells say about the
brutality of the Nazi movement, and of individual National Socialists
in greater Germania ?? He said that the Nazi "refuses to give way to
the horror of other people's torments, because from doing that ... it
is only a step to giving way to pain and fear himself."
> THE NAZI RELIGION RESURFACES IN SATANIC RITUAL MURDER
Pure evil is what motivates White Supremacists who
murdered 28 Million Europeans 1940s. Stay away from
them.
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back in their mexican homeland.
Racist Mexicans chew peyote? Can you please cite your source?
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ADOLF HITLER
NUREMBERG
SPEECH OF SEPTEMBER 6, 1938
..National Socialism is not a cult-movement - a movement for worship;
it is exclusively a 'volkic' political doctrine based upon racial
principles. In its purpose there is no mystic cult, only the care and
leadership of a people defined by a common blood-relationship.
Therefore we have no rooms for worship, but only halls for the people
- no open spaces for worship, but spaces for assemblies and parades.
We have no religious retreats, but arenas for sports and
playing-fields, and the characteristic feature of our places of
assembly is not the mystical gloom of a cathedral, but the brightness
and light of a room or hall which combines beauty with fitness for its
purpose. In these halls no acts of worship are celebrated, they are
exclusively devoted to gatherings of the people of the kind which we
have come to know in the course of our long struggle; to such
gatherings we have become accustomed and we wish to maintain them. We
will not allow mystically-minded occult folk with a passion for
exploring the secrets of the world beyond to steal into our Movement.
Such folk are not National Socialists, but something else - in any
case, something which has nothing to do with us. At the head of our
program there stand no secret surmisings but clear-cut perception and
straightforward profession of belief. But since we set as the central
point of this perception and of this profession of belief the
maintenance and hence the security for the future of a being formed by
God, we thus serve the maintenance of a divine work and fulfill a
divine will - not in the secret twilight of a new house of worship,
but openly before the face of the Lord.
There were times when a half-light was the necessary condition for the
effectiveness of certain teachings: we live in an age when light is
for us the fundamental condition of successful action. It will be a
sorry day when through the stealing in of obscure mystic elements the
Movement or the State itself issues obscure commissions.... It is even
dangerous to issue any commission for a so-called place of worship,
for with the building will arise the necessity for thinking out
so-called religious recreations or religious rites, which have nothing
to do with National Socialism. Our worship is exclusively the
cultivation of the natural, and for that reason, because natural,
therefore God-willed. Our humility is the unconditional submission
before the divine laws of existence so far as they are known to us
men: it is to these we pay our respect. Our commandment is the
courageous fulfillment of the duties arising from those laws. But for
religious rites we are not the authorities, but the churches! If
anyone should believe that these tasks of ours are not enough for him,
that they do not correspond with his convictions, then it is for him
to prove that God desires to use him to change things for the better.
In no event can National Socialism or the National Socialist State
give to German art other tasks than those which accord with our view
of the world.
The only sphere in which the Jewish international newspapers still
today think that they can attack the new Reich is the cultural sphere.
Here they attempt, by a constant appeal to the sentimentality -
untroubled by any sort of knowledge - of the world-citizens of
democracy to bewail the downfall of German culture: in other words,
they lament the commercial closing-down of those elements which, as
the heralds and exponents of the November Republic, forced their
cultural characteristics, as unnatural as they were deplorable, upon
the period between the two Empires; and which have now played out
their role for good and all....
Fortunately, however, despite the short time which the National
Socialist leadership has been able to allot to works of culture,
positive facts, here too, speak louder than any negative criticism. We
Germans can today speak with justice of a new awakening of our
cultural life, which finds its confirmation not in mutual compliments
and literary phrases, but rather in positive evidences of cultural
creative force. German architecture, sculpture, painting, drama, and
the rest bring today documentary proof of a creative period in art,
which for richness and impetuosity has rarely been matched in the
course of human history. And although the Jewish-democratic press
magnates in their effrontery even today seek brazenly to turn these
facts upside down, we know that the cultural achievements of Germany
will in a few years have won from the world respect and appreciation
far more unstinted even than that which they now accord to our work in
the material field. The buildings which are arising in the Reich today
will speak a language that endures, a language, above all, more
compelling than the Yiddish gabblings of the democratic, international
judges of our culture. What the fingers of these poor wretches have
penned or are penning the world will - perhaps unfortunately - forget,
as it has forgotten so much else. But the gigantic works of the Third
Reich are a token of its cultural renascence and shall one day belong
to the inalienable cultural heritage of the Western world, just as the
great cultural achievements of this world in the past belong to us
today...
Newsweek magazine May 15, 1989 says on page 64:
"the way the Nazis did things: the secrecy, the unwritten orders, the
destruction of records and the innocent-sounding code names for the
extermination of the Jews. Perhaps it was inevitable that historians
would quarrel over just what happened"
The real reason there are no records of an extermination plan is
because there was no extermination plan. The Germans planned to deport
the Jews out of Germany. The records show that they planned to move
them to Madagascar.
Here is part of the Leuchter Report:
"Thirty-one samples were selectively removed from the alleged gas
chambers at Kremas I, II, III, IV and V. A control sample was taken
from delousing facility #1 at Birkenau. The control sample was removed
from a delousing chamber in a location where cyanide was known to have
been used and was apparently present as blue staining. Chemical
testing of the control sample #32 showed a cyanide content of 1050
mg/kg, a very heavy concentration. The conditions at areas from which
these samples were taken are identical with those of the control
sample, cold, dark, and wet. Only Kremas IV and V differed, in the
respect that these locations had sunlight (the buildings have been
torn down) and sunlight may hasten the destruction of uncomplexed
cyanide. The cyanide combines with the iron in the mortar and brick
and becomes ferric-ferro-cyanide or prussian blue pigmentation, a very
stable iron-cyanide complex.
"The locations from which the analyzed samples were removed are set
out in Table III.
"It is notable that almost all the samples were negative and that the
few that were positive were very close to the detection level
(1mg/kg); 6.7 mg/kg at Krema III; 7.9 mg/kg at Krerma I. The absence
of any consequential readings at any of the tested locations as
compared to the control sample reading 1050 mg/kg supports the
evidence that these facilities were not execution gas chambers. The
small quantities detected would indicate that at some point these
buildings were deloused with Zyklon B - as were all the buildings at
all these facilities"
Professional holocaust believers have admitted that the "gas chamber"
which is shown to the tourists at Auschwitz was actually built by the
allies after the war was over. This is what they wrote:
Brian Harmon <har...@msg.ucsf.edu> wrote in article
<080620000051136373%har...@msg.ucsf.edu>...
"You're confusing Krema I with Kremas II-V. Krema I is a
reconstruction, this has never been a secret. Kremas II-V are in
their demolished state as they were left."
Charles Don Hall <cdhall...@erols.com> wrote in article
<8F4CB71B...@news.erols.com>...
"Certainly not! The word "fake" implies a deliberate attempt to
deceive.
"The staff of the Auschwitz museum will readily explain that the Nazis
tried to destroy the gas chambers in a futile attempt to conceal their
crimes. And they'll tell you that reconstruction was done later on. So
it would be dishonest for me to call it a "fake". I'll cheerfully
admit that it's a "reconstruction" if that makes you happy."
They admit that the "gas chamber" shown to the tourists at Auschwitz
was built by the allies after the war was over. There is no physical
evidence that the Germans had gas chambers. No bodies of people who
died from gas have been found. The Communists were the first to enter
the camps. How do the other allies know the Communists didn't blow up
the buildings? Then they could claim that these demolished buildings
used to be gas chambers.
But then the believers will say the Germans confessed. Their main
confession is from Hoess. Here are the details:
"In the introduction to Death Dealer [Buffalo: Prometheus, 1992], the
historian Steven Paskuly wrote: "Just after his capture in 1946, the
British Security Police were able to extract a statement from Hoess by
beating him and filling him with liquor." Paskuly was reiterating what
Rupert Butler and Bernard Clarke had already described.
In 1983, Rupert Butler published an unabashed memoir (Legions of
Death, Hamlyn: London) describing in graphic detail how, over three
days, he and Clarke and other British policemen managed to torture
Hoess into making a "coherent statement." According to Butler [Legions
of Death, p. 237], he and the other interrogators put the boots to
Hoess the moment he was captured. For starters, Clarke struck his face
four times to get H�ess to reveal his true identity.
<quote>
The admission suddenly unleashed the loathing of Jewish sergeants in
the arresting party whose parents had died in Auschwitz following an
order signed by H�ss.
The prisoner was torn from the top bunk, the pajamas ripped from his
body. He was then dragged naked to one of the slaughter tables, where
it seemed to Clarke the blows and screams were endless.
Eventually, the Medical Officer urged the Captain: "Call them off,
unless you want to take back a corpse."
A blanket was thrown over H�ss and he was dragged to Clarke's car,
where the sergeant poured a substantial slug of whisky down his
throat. H�ss tried to sleep.
Clarke thrust his service stick under the man's eyelids and ordered in
Geffnan: "Keep your pig eyes open, you swine."
For the first time H�ss trotted out his oft-repeated justification: "I
took my orders from Himmler. I was a soldier in the same way as you
are a soldier and we had to obey orders."
The party arrived back at Heide around three in the morning. The snow
was swirling
still, but the blanket was torn from H�ss and he was made to walk
completely nude
through the prison yard to his cell.
</quote>
An article in the British newspaper Wrexham Leader [Mike Mason, "In a
cell with a Nazi war criminal-We kept him awake until he confessed,"
October 17, 1986] following the airing of a TV documentary on the case
of Rudolf Hoess included eyewitness recollections by Ken Jones:
<quote>
Mr. Ken Jones was then a private with the Fifth Royal Horse Artillery
stationed at
Heid[e] in Schleswig-Holstein. "They brought him to us when he
refused to
cooperate over questioning about his activities during the war. He
came in the winter
of 1945/6 and was put in a small jail cell in the barracks," recalls
Mr. Jones. Two
other soldiers were detailed with Mr. Jones to join H�ss in his cell
to help break
him down for interrogation. "We sat in the cell with him, night and
day, armed with
axe handles. Our job was to prod him every time he fell asleep to
help break down
his resistance," said Mr. Jones. When H�ss was taken out for exercise
he was made
to wear only jeans and a cotton shirt in the bitter cold. After three
days and
nights without sleep, H�ss finally broke down and made a full
confession to
the authorities.
</quote>
The confession Hoess signed was numbered document NO-1210; later
revamped, as document PS-3868, which became the basis for an oral
deposition Hoess made for the IMT on April 15, 1946, a month after it
had been extracted from him by torture...
Since what people confess to after they have been captured by the
Communists and their liberal comrades is not proof of anything, this
leaves only the stories of survivors. These contradict each other and
not believable. One professional survivor said that he could tell if
the Germans were gassing German Jews or Polish Jews by the color of
the smoke.
The fact that there are so many "survivors" is not proof of an
extermination plan. There may be six million survivors. Just about
every Jew that is old says he is a survivor.
The real "holocaust" was when the Communist Jews murdered millions of
Christians. Communism was Jewish. Here is proof:
Article Winston Churchill wrote in 1920:
"This movement amongst the Jews (the Russian Revolution) is not new.
From the days of Spartacus Weishaupt to those of Karl Marx, and down
to Trotsky (Russia), Bela Kuhn (Hungary), Rosa Luxembourg (Germany)
and Emma Goldman (United States), this world wide conspiracy for the
overthrow of civilization and the reconstruction of society on the
basis of arrested development, of envious malevolence, and impossible
equality, has been steadily growing. It played, as a modern writer,
Mrs. Nesta Webster, has so ably shown, a definitely recognizable part
in the tragedy of the French Revolution. It has been the mainspring of
every subversive movement during the Nineteenth Century; and now at
last this band of extraordinary personalities has gripped the Russian
people by the hair of their heads and have become practically the
undisputed masters of that enormous empire. There is no need to
exaggerate the part played in the creation of Bolshevism and in the
actual bringing about of the Russian Revolution by these international
and for the most part atheistic Jews. Moreover, the principal
inspiration and driving power comes from Jewish leaders." (ibid)
Lev Trotzky wrote a book called "Stalin: An Appraisal of the Man and
His Influence", Harper Bros., New York and London, 1941, translated by
Charles Malamuth.
In this book he told who the principle members of the October Central
Committee were. This group was the leadership of the Bolshevik Party
during the October Revolution. This is what he wrote:
"In view of the Party's semi-legality the names of persons elected by
secret ballot were not announced at the Congress, with the exception
of the four who had received the largest number of votes. Lenin--133
out of a possible 134, Zinoviev--132, Kamenev--131, Trotzky--131."
Of these four top leaders of the Bolshevik Party the last three were
known Jews. Lenin was thought to be a gentile married to a Jewess. It
was later proven that he was one quarter Jewish, London Jewish
Chronicle April 21, 1995, Lenin: Life and Legacy.
David Francis, the American Ambassador to Russia at the time of the
Revolution, wrote:
"The Bolshevic leaders here, most of whom are Jews and 90 percent of
whom are returned exiles, care little for Russia or any other country
but are internationalists and they are trying to start a world-wide
revolution."
The Director of British Intelligence to the U.S. Secretary of State
wrote this:
"There is now definite evidence that Bolshevism is an international
movement controlled by Jews."
In 1945 the FBI arrested six individuals for stealing 1700 highly
confidential documents from State Department files. This was the
Amerasia case they were:
Philip Jaffe, a Russian Jew who came to the U.S. in 1905. He was at
one time the editor of the communist paper "Labor Defense" and the
ringleader of the group arrested.
Andrew Roth, a Jew.
Mark Gayn, a Jew, changed his name from Julius Ginsberg.
John Service, a gentile.
Emmanuel Larsen, nationality unknown
Kate Mitchel, nationality unknown.
In 1949 the Jewess Judith Coplin was caught passing classified
documents from Justice Department files to a Russian agent.
The highest ranking communist brought to trial in the U.S. was Gerhart
Eisler. He was a Jew. He was the secret boss of the Communist Party
in the U.S. and commuted regularly between the U.S. and Russia.
In 1950 there was the "Hollywood Ten" case. Ten leading film writers
of the Hollywood Film Colony were convicted for contempt of Congress
and sentenced to prison. Nine of the ten were Jews. Six of the ten
were communist party members and the other four were flagrantly
pro-communist.
One of the top new stories of 1949 was the trial of Eugene Dennis and
the Convicted Eleven. This group comprised the National Secretariat of
the American Communist Party. Six were Jews, two gentiles, three
nationality unknown.
Also in 1949 the German-born atomic scientist Klaus Fuchs was
convicted for passing atomic secrets to the Russians. Acting on
information obtained from Fuchs the FBI arrested nine other members of
the ring. All of them were convicted. Eight of the nine were Jews.
Here are some quotes from a very pro-Jewish book that was first
published in 1925. The book is "Stranger than Fiction" by Lewis
Browne.
"But save for such exceptions, the Jews who led or participated in the
heroic efforts to remold the world of the last century, were neither
Reform or Orthodox. Indeed, they were often not professing Jews at
all.
"For instance, there was Heinrich Heine and Ludwig Borne, both
unfaltering champions of freedom. And even more conspicuously, there
was Karl Marx, one of the great prophetic geniuses of modern times.
"Jewish historians rarely mention the name of this man, Karl Marx,
though in his life and spirit he was far truer to the mission of
Israel than most of those who were forever talking of it. He was born
in Germany in 1818, and belonged to an old rabbinic family. He was not
himself reared as a Jew, however, but while still a child was baptized
a Christian by his father. Yet the rebel soul of the Jew flamed in him
throughout his days, for he was always a 'troubler' in Europe."
"Then, of course, there are Ludwig Borne and Heinrich Heine, two men
who by their merciless wit and sarcasm became leaders among the
revolutionary writers. Karl Marx, Ferdinand Lassalle, Johann Jacoby,
Gabriel Riesser, Adolphe Cremieux, Signora Nathan- all these of Jewish
lineage played important roles in the struggle that went throughout
Europe in this period. Wherever the war for human liberty was being
waged, whether in France, Germany, Austria, Hungary, or Italy, there
the Jew was to be found. It was little wonder that the enemies of
social progress, the monarchists and the Churchmen, came to speak of
the whole liberal movement as nothing but a Jewish plot."
The book "Soviet Russia and the Jews" by Gregor Aronson and published
by the American Jewish League Against Communism, quotes Stalin in an
interview in 1931 with the Jewish Telegraph Agency. Stalin said:
"...Communists cannot be anything but outspoken enemies of
Anti-Semitism. We fight anti-Semites by the strongest methods in the
Soviet Union. Active anti-Semites are punished by death under the
law."
The following quotes are taken directly from documents available from
the
U.S. Archives:
State Department document 861.00/1757 sent May 2, 1918 by U.S. consul
general in Moscow, Summers: "Jews prominent in local Soviet
government, anti-Jewish feeling growing among population...."
State Department document 861.00/2205 was sent from Vladivostok on
July 5, 1918 by U.S. consul Caldwell: "Fifty percent of Soviet
government in each town consists of Jews of the worst type."
From the Headquarters of the American Expeditionary Forces, Siberia on
March 1, 1919, comes this telegram from Omsk by Chief of Staff, Capt.
Montgomery Shuyler: "It is probably unwise to say this loudly in the
United States but the Bolshevik movement is and has been since it's
beginning, guided and controlled by Russian Jews of the greasiest
type" type."
A second Schuyler telegram, dated June 9, 1919 from Vladivostok,
reports on the make-up of the presiding Soviet government: "...(T)here
were 384 'commissars' including 2 negroes, 13 Russians, 15 Chinamen,
22 Armenians, AND MORE THAN 300 JEWS. Of the latter number, 264 had
come to Russia from the United States since the downfall of the
Imperial Government.
The Netherlands' ambassador in Russia, Oudendyke, confirmed this:
"Unless Bolshevism is nipped in the bud immediately, it is bound to
spread in one form or another over Europe and the whole world as it is
organized and worked by Jews who have no nationality, and whose one
object is to destroy for their own ends the existing order of things."
"The Bolshevik revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish brains, of
Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal is to create a
new order in the world. What was performed in so excellent a way in
Russia, thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfaction
and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish mental an
physical forces, become a reality all over the world." (The American
Hebrew, September 10, 1920 "In the Bolshevik era, 52 percent of the
membership of the Soviet communist party was Jewish, though Jews
comprised only 1.8 percent of the total population." (Stuart Kahan,
The Wolf of the Kremlin, p. 81)
Interestingly, one of the first acts by the Bolsheviks was to make
so-called "anti-Semitism" a capital crime. This is confirmed by Stalin
himself:
"National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic
customs characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as
an extreme form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of
cannibalism...under USSR law active anti-Semites are liable to the
death penalty." (Stalin, Collected Works, vol. 13, p. 30).
Here is a quote from Mein Kampf:
"Making an effort to overcome my natural reluctance, I tried to read
articles of this nature published in the Marxist Press; but in doing
so my aversion increased all the more. And then I set about learning
something of the people who wrote and published this mischievous
stuff. From the publisher downwards, all of them were Jews. I
recalled to mind the names of the public leaders of Marxism, and then
I realized that most of them belonged to the Chosen Race- the Social
Democratic representatives in the Imperial Cabinet as well as the
secretaries if the Trades Unions and the street agitators. Everywhere
the same sinister picture presented itself. I shall never forget the
row of names- Austerlitz, David, Adler, Ellonbogen, and others. One
fact became quite evident to me. It was that this alien race held in
its hands the leadership of that Social Democratic Party with whose
minor representatives I had been disputing for months past."
Solzhenitsyn named in his book the six top administrators of the
Soviet death camps. All six of them were Jews.
Here is something the National Socialists wrote:
"The Soviet Union was in fact a paradise for one group: the Jews. Even
at times when for foreign policy reasons Jews were less evident in the
government, or when they ruled through straw men, the Jews were always
visible in the middle and lower levels of the administration."
Topaz is like some kind of Aryan superhero. Uberman. Topaz "Uberman"
Hitler.
Wherever people gather for discussion and debate, Uberman will be
there with his pro-Hitler/anti-nonwhites propaganda to slay the beast
of reason. Wherever the keywords white, black, brown, Chinese,
Mexican, Jew, Hitler, Nazi, Germany, American, the, a, tree, or any
other word, regardless of the content, Topaz "Uberman" Hitler will
post his irrelevant and long winded nazi propaganda.
His only weakness is we can ignore him.
> The USA locked also up the Japanese and their
> political opponents and for less reason.
And did NOT murder them.
Michael
Michael
As a Nazi, you are, above all else, a craven coward.
You are afraid to compete with others as equals because you know
you can not measure up.
You are afraid of your own inadequacy, so you want to murder your
betters.
You are afraid of the truth, so you want to murder those who would
tell it.
You are afraid of history, so you want to murder the past, to wipe
out the knowledge of the degeneracy, cowardice and failure of
National
Socialism.
Finally, you are afraid of the power of educated, informed adults.
Freedom of choice terrifies you... which is why you choose minor
children as sexual partners. You can not interact with competent
adults in a consensually sexual
way. You need to be able to impose yourself on a helpless victim, be
it a prepubescent
boy, or a patient in a mental hospital.
That is what you are, a Nazi, and there is nothing polite or
honest about it.
Michael
Der St�rmer, #23/1944, What is Americanism
"The family ties between hundreds of thousands of German families and
their American relatives led many to think that America would never
join a second war against Germany. Now that that has happened, many
Germans still believe that America will never allow Bolshevism to
conquer and destroy Germany. Recent events have proven how false and
dangerous this idea is. One has to be be foolish or irredeemably
stupid to believe that anything good can come to Europe from the land
of presumed opportunity. That that did not happen after the First
World War, and will not happen after the second. The Jews have made
America what it is today: a nation raped by the Jews , a nation whose
130,000,000 people of many colors and races have been forced into
helping the Jews achieve world domination!"
Let's say the Germans merely removed the Jews from positions of
political power and banned them from the legal profession. Germany
went from devastating economic poverty in 1932 to full employment just
a couple years later. If an incredible economic improvement can be
achieved, merely by removing the Jews from power (and replacing them
with patriotic nationalists), then every Gentile nation in the world
should give this a try.
Obviously the Jews don't want anyone else getting the idea of removing
them to create prosperity. The Jews control the mass media in most
Western countries. Most people don't know about the Balfour
Declaration. During World War One, Zionist Jews offered to use their
control of the press to bring America into World War One if Britain
would promise them Palestine. This offer was dubbed the Balfour
Declaration. If the Jews had enough media control and influence to
push America into World War One in 1917, what else have they done with
their power?
It was a huge embarrassment for the Jews to see Germany so prosperous
in the mid-1930s after removing them from power. They considered this
a dangerous precedent. To deal with this "problem" the Jewish World
Congress declared war on Germany in 1933. This declaration of war at
least encouraged a world-wide boycott against Germany and at worst
encouraged other nations of the world to become hostile toward
Germany. (The Jews curiously sanctioned the Germans before the Germans
passed any laws restricting the Jews.) More importantly the Jews
pushed vicious anti-German slander in all the Jewish-owned newspapers
in the West in the years leading up to World War Two. The Communist
mass murder of 30 million people in Russia and the Ukraine received
almost no publicity in the Jewish media. Most people in the West only
heard a serious mention of these Communist mass murders beginning in
the 1980s. Instead, the Jewish media focused all their hatred and
agitation against Germany and its allies.
After six years of relentless agitation, the Jews pushed England and
France into war with Germany. Only two years later, FDR and his cabal
of Jews provoked a war with Japan (and Germany).
Naturally, the Jews did not want future historians to say: "World War
Two was provoked by the Jewish media in retaliation for Germany
removing the Jews from power." The Jews needed a new reason for World
War Two. A reason that painted their enemies as unquestionably evil.
So they invented the Holocaust.
The Holocaust stood mostly unchallenged for decades after the war
because people feared being branded "Nazi-sympathizers" for
questioning its details. The truth always comes out in the long run.
Professor Arthur Butz published his famous work "The Hoax of the 20th
Century" in 1977 detailing a very solid argument against this war
propaganda. Dr. Butz pointed out that the world population of Jews
remained at about 16 million before and after the war. He also noted
that half a million Jews remained in Paris after four years of German
occupation. Both these facts strongly suggest the Holocaust is a
fraud, but the political power of the Jews has suppressed and punished
any public questioning of the Holocaust to this day. David Irving
joined the ranks of Revisionist historians several years ago and went
from a famous successful author to a pariah thanks to persecution by
the Jews.
The Institute for Historical Review has done great work exposing the
Holocaust as a great historical fraud. Anyone interested in looking
for historical truth should visit their website. It's a shock for many
people to see how much propaganda we've been force fed.
"Almost without exception, the intellectual leaders of Marxist atheism
in Germany were Jews, among them being Erich Weinert, Felix Abraham,
Dr. Levy-Lenz and others. At regular meetings, held in the presence of
a notary public, members were requested to register their declaration
of withdrawal from their church for a fee of 2 Marks. And this the
fight for atheism was carried on. Between 1918 and 1933 the
withdrawals from the German Evangelical Churches alone amounted to
two-and-a-half million persons in Germany. The programme which these
atheistic societies laid down in regard to sexual matters is amply
charcterized in the following demands publicly expressed at meetings
and distributed in leaflet form:
1) The complete abrogation of the paragraphs of the law dealing with
the crime of abortion, and the right to have abortion procured free of
charge in State Hospitals.
2) Non-interference with prostitution.
3) The abrogation of all bourgeois-capitalistic regulations in regard
to marriage and divorce.
4) Official registration to be optional and the children to be
educated by the community.
5) Abrogation of all penalties for sexual perversities and amnesty to
be granted to all persons condemned as 'sexual criminals'.
"Truly a case of methodical insanity, which has for its aim the
wilful destruction of the nations and their civilization and the
substitute of barbarism as a fundamental principle of public life.
"Where are the men behind the scenes of this virulent world
movement? Who are the inventors of all this madness? Who transplanted
this ensemble into Russia and is today making the attempt to have it
prevail in other countries? The answer to these question discloses the
actual secret of our anti-Jewish policy and our uncomromising fight
against Jewry; for the Bolshevic International is in reality nothing
less than a Jewish International."
We had no idea of the danger that threatened us then. I myself did not
yet know Marxism well enough to foresee the possible consequences. I
shrugged my shoulders as I read the dark prose of the red press and
awaited expectantly the decisive evening.
Around 8 p.m. we drove in an old rusty car from the city center to
Wedding. A cold gray mist hung under a starless sky. Our hearts were
bursting with impatience and expectation.
As we drove down M�llerstra�e it was already clear that the evening
did not bode well. Groups of dark figures stood on every street
corner. They apparently planned to teach our party members a bloody
lesson before they even got to the meeting.
Dark masses of people stood outside the Pharus Hall, expressing their
rage and hate with loud and impudent threats.
The leader of the protective forces cleared a way for us and reported
briefly that the hall had been packed since 7:15 p.m. and had been
closed by police. About two-thirds of the audience were Red Front
Fighters. That was what we wanted. There would be a decision. We were
ready to give it all we had.
Entering the hall, we encountered a warm, stiffling aroma of beer and
tobacco. The hall was hot. A lively roar of voices filled the hall.
People were packed in tightly. We reached the podium only with
difficulty.
No sooner was I recognized than hundreds of voices filled with rage
and revenge thundered in my ears: "Bloodhound! Murder of Workers!"
Those were the mildest words they shouted. But a welcoming group of
some party members and S.A. Men answered with passion. Excited battle
cries sounded from the platform. I saw immediately that we were a
minority, but a minority determined to fight, and therefore win.
It was still our custom then for an S.A. leader to chair all of the
party's public meetings. Here too. Tall as a tree he stood up front
and asked for silence with his upraised arm. That was easier said than
done. Mocking laughter was the answer. Insults flew toward the
platform from every corner of the room. People growled and screamed
and raged. There were world revolutionaries scattered about who
apparently had gained the courage they needed by drinking. It was
impossible to quiet the hall. The class-conscious proletariat had not
come to discuss but to fight, to break things up, to put an end to the
Fascist specter with callused workers' fists.
We were not uncertain, even for a moment. We also knew that if the
enemy did not succeed this time in what he had threatened, the future
success of the movement in Berlin was assured.
Fifteen or twenty S.A. and S.S. men stood before the platform in
uniforms and arm bands, an impudent and direct provocation to the Red
Front Fighters. Behind me was a select group of reliable people ready
at any moment to risk their lives to defend me from the onrushing red
mob with brutal force.
The Communists made an obvious mistake in their tactics. They had
scattered small groups throughout the hall, but clumped most of the
rest in the right rear of the hall. I recognized immediately that
there was the center of unrest, and if anything was to be done, we
first had to deal ruthlessly with them. Whenever the chair tried to
open the meeting, a dark chap stood up on a stool and shouted "Point
of Order!" Hundreds of others yelled the same after him.
If one takes from the mass their leader or also their seducer, they
are leaderless and easily controlled. Our tactic therefore was to
silence this cowardly troublemaker at any cost. He felt secure back
there, surrounded by his comrades. We tried to do this peacefully a
few times. The chair shouted over the uproar: "There will be
discussion afterward! But we determine the rules of order!"
That was an ineffective attempt at an unsuitable object. The screamer
wanted to throw the meeting into confusion by his endless shouts and
bring things to the boiling point. Then a general melee would result.
As our efforts to bring the meeting to order peacefully proved
unsuccessful, I took the head of the defensive forces to the side, and
immediately after groups of his men slipped through the thundering
Communist masses. Before the astonished and surprised Red Front troops
realized what was happening, our comrades had hauled the troublemaker
down from his stool and brought him through the raging crowd to the
podium. That was unexpected, but what followed was no surprise. A beer
glass flew through the air and crashed to the floor. That was the
signal for the first major meeting hall battle. Chairs were broken and
legs ripped from tables. Glasses and bottles suddenly appeared and all
hell broke loose. The battle raged for ten minutes. Glasses, bottles,
table and chair legs flew randomly through the air. A deafening roar
rose; the red beast was set free and wanted its victims.
At first it looked as if we were lost. The Communist attack was sudden
and explosive, completely unexpected. But soon the S.A. and S.S. men
distributed throughout the hall and in front of the platform recovered
from their surprise and counterattacked with bold courage. It quickly
became clear that although the Communist Party had masses behind it,
these masses became cowards when faced with a firmly disciplined and
determined opponent. They ran. In short order the red mob that had
come to break up our meeting had been driven from the hall. The order
that could not be secured by good will was gained by brute force.
Usually one is not aware of the stages of a meeting hall battle. Only
later does one recall them. I still remember a scene that I will never
forget; on the podium stood a young S.A. man whom I did not know. He
was hurling his missiles into the on-coming red mob. Suddenly a beer
glass thrown from the distance hit him on the head. A wide stream of
blood ran down his face. He sank with a cry. After a few seconds he
stood up again, grabbed water bottle from the table and threw it into
the hall, where it clattered against the head of an opponent.
The face of this young man is engraved in my memory. This
lightening-fast moment is unforgettable. This gravely-wounded S.A. man
would soon, and indeed for all times, become my most reliable and
loyal comrade.
Only after the red mob had been driven howling, growling and cursing
from the field could one tell how serious and costly the battle had
been. Ten lay in their blood on the platform, most with head injuries,
two with severe concussions. The table and stairs to the platform were
covered in blood. The whole hall resembled a field of ruins.
In the midst of this bloody and ruined wasteland, our tree-high S.A.
leader resumed his place and declared with iron calm: "The meeting
will continue. The speaker has the floor."
Never before or since have I spoken under such dramatic conditions.
Behind me, groaning in pain and bleeding, were seriously injured S.A.
comrades. Around me were broken chair legs, shattered beer glasses and
blood. The whole meeting was icily silent.
We lacked then a medical corps. Since we were in a proletarian
district, we had to have our seriously wounded carried out by
so-called worker volunteers. There were scenes outdoors of
unimaginable inhumanity. The bestial people who were supposedly
fighting for universal brotherhood insulted our poor and defenseless
injured with phases like: "Isn't that pig dead yet?"
Under such conditions it was impossible to give a coherent speech.
Scarcely had I begun to speak when another group of volunteers entered
the hall to carry off a seriously wounded S.A. man on a stretcher. One
of them, encountering the brutal apostles of humanity outside the door
and their unflattering and crude language, shouted for me in
desperation. His voice could be heard loudly and unmistakably on the
platform I interrupted my speech and went through the hall, where
there were still scattered Communist commando groups. Still surprised
by what had happened, they stood quietly and shyly to the side. I bade
farewell to the seriously wounded S.A. comrades.
Michael
Michael
And of course, in the end, most of Europe was in ruins.
Michael
Who are these traitors?
Along with 6 Million Jews, White Supremacists wiped out
20 Million Non Jews; maybe that may account for the decrease
in the white population in Europe
What is "American Culture?"
Hint: it is the mix of the cultures of all the different peoples who have
immigrated here over several centuries.
Michael
You must be a retard or purposefully evasive.
Just in case you are a retard, 'american culture' is that which
existed prior to an invasion of over 20 million foreign nationals
(mostly mexicans) who are swarming into american towns and stealing US
taxpayer resources and jobs while speaking some sort of foreign
gobbledeegook language instead of English - which has been the common
language of americans since at least the Constitution was written.
Culturally diverse immigrants are just fine... huge hoards of illegal
foreign invaders are not.
<<You must be a retard or purposefully evasive.
No, just someone who has read a bit of history.
<<Just in case you are a retard, 'american culture' is that which
<existed prior to an invasion of over 20 million foreign nationals
<(mostly mexicans)
The accepted figure for illegal aliens is around 12 million, and estimates
are that the present explosion of the American economy has seen 2 million
return home. In any case, of the 12 million, about 7 to 8 million are from
Latin America, and about 6 million are from Mexico.
In any event, "American Culture" has always been quite dynamic. There was
much of the German and Dutch in the original culture at the time of
Independence. Add millions of Irish in the 1840's (a vastly higher
percentage of the total nation that the few Mexicans today), more millions
of Germans around 1880, and many millions of Italians from the late 1800's
through the start of W.W. II. Then there is the French influence in various
parts of the country, from the Arcadians in Maine to the Bayous of
Louisiana. And the Spanish influence from Texas to California. Add the
African cultural influences in everything from dress to music and food, and
you have a melange of great influences, all of which joined to make the
culture of the nation. A few million folks from Mexico are just going to
contribute a bit more... of course, we have had a Spanish speaking part of
the US, Puerto Rico, since 1898, and no harm seems to have come from that.
Obviously, you don't get the fact that culture is not static.
< who are swarming into american towns and stealing US
<taxpayer resources and jobs while speaking some sort of foreign
<gobbledeegook language instead of English - which has been the common
<language of americans since at least the Constitution was written.
Actually, many languages have been spoken in the US for centuries. Your
ignorance just does not make you aware of it. Let's start with all the
Native American tongues, and the languages of the first settlers in much of
the US. Or do you think Detroit is an English word.... like Los Angeles, or
New Orleans, or New Amsterdam.
Over 90% are from mexico...mexican citizens.
(Actually almost all are since they are allowed to pass through mexico
before sneaking into the US)
And the estimates of illegals that have infiltrated into the US range
up to 32 million.
> In any event, "American Culture" has always been quite dynamic.
And quite northern european.
> There was
> much of the German and Dutch in the original culture at the time of
> Independence. Add millions of Irish in the 1840's (a vastly higher
> percentage of the total nation that the few Mexicans today), more millions
> of Germans around 1880,
All northern europeans who tooke the time to assimilate into the
existing european culture that founded the US.
> ...and many millions of Italians from the late 1800's
> through the start of W.W. II. Then there is the French influence in various
> parts of the country, from the Arcadians in Maine to the Bayous of
> Louisiana. And the Spanish influence from Texas to California.
Europeans.
> Add the
> African cultural influences in everything from dress to music and food, and
> you have a melange of great influences, all of which joined to make the
> culture of the nation.
All of whom have made 'The American Culture'.
> A few million folks from Mexico are just going to
> contribute a bit more...
30 million illegal foreign invaders who are proclaiming a 're-
conquest' of US territory by their mud-hut cultural adherents are
simply *criminals* who have no right to even be on US territory.#)
million illegal invaders are NOT 'a few folks'.
> of course, we have had a Spanish speaking part of
> the US, Puerto Rico, since 1898, and no harm seems to have come from that.
Puerto Rico is a foreign nation that is working for total
independence.
The only reason it has not severed relations is because they receive
huge amounts of welfare money from US taxpayers.
Personally, I think they should be forced to accept independece as
currently they are just another non-productive parasitic drag on US
taxpayer.
(We can only support so many free-loading 'latinos'; resources are
finite)
> Obviously, you don't get the fact that culture is not static.
It is you has lacks an understanding of the value of culture.. US
culture.
You want to trash the current US cullture and replace it with a failed
mexican one.
You want to replace existing americans with mexican criminals.
> < who are swarming into american towns and stealing US
> <taxpayer resources and jobs while speaking some sort of foreign
> <gobbledeegook language instead of English - which has been the common
> <language of americans since at least the Constitution was written.
>
> Actually, many languages have been spoken in the US for centuries.
Minor languages have always benn spoken in private settings.
The goobledeegook mexican language is spoken by huge segments of the
invader community; many do not speak any english at all, and force
their foreign language onto US citizens who (by law) are forced to
attempt to communicate with them.
> Your
> ignorance just does not make you aware of it.
Be quiet, you liar and distorter of facts...
I am far more knowledgable than you.
You are to be a mere disinformation agent.
>Let's start with all the
> Native American tongues,
You go mess with native american tongues if you wish..
I was talking about illegal mexican invaders of US territory... their
undesirabilty, their criminality, their incompatibilty.
> ..and the languages of the first settlers in much of
> the US. Or do you think Detroit is an English word.... like Los Angeles, or
> New Orleans, or New Amsterdam.
Since you cannot overcome the criminality of illegal invasion, you
begin to repeat yourself with incoherent babble.
Come back when you can talk sense again.
The Unraveling of the Witnesses at the First Z�ndel Trial (1985)
The important victory won by revisionism in France on April 26, 1983,
would go on to confirm itself in 1985 with the first Z�ndel trial in
Toronto. I would like to dwell a moment on this trial in order to
underscore the impact on one's point of view, and especially as far as
the testimonies on the Auschwitz gas chambers are concerned: for the
first time since the war, Jewish witnesses were subjected to a regular
cross-examination. Moreover, without wanting to minimize the
importance of the second Z�ndel trial (that of 1988), I should like it
to be understood that the 1985 trial already contained the seeds for
all that was attained in the 1988 trial, including the report by
Leuchter and all the scientific reports which, in the aftermath, would
proliferate in the wake of the Leuchter Report.
In 1985, as also afterwards in 1988, I served as advisor to Ernst
Z�ndel and his lawyer, Douglas Christie. I accepted this heavy
responsibility only under condition that all the Jewish witnesses
would, for the first time, be cross-examined on the material nature of
the reported facts, bluntly and without discretion. I had noted, in
effect, that from 1945 to 1985, Jewish witnesses had been granted
virtual immunity. Never had any defense lawyer thought or dared to ask
them for material explanations about the gas chambers (exact location,
physical appearance, dimensions, internal and external structure), or
about the homicidal gassing (the operational procedure from beginning
to end, the tools employed, the precautions taken by the executioners
before, during and after execution).
On rare occasions, as at the trial of Tesch, Drosihn and
Weinbacher,[5] lawyers formulated some unusual questions of a material
nature, hardly troublesome for the witness, but these always found
themselves on the fringes of the more fundamental questions which
should have been asked. No lawyer ever demanded clarifications on a
weapon which, indeed, he had never seen and that no one had ever shown
him. At the major Nuremberg Trial of 1945-46, the German lawyers had
manifested total discretion on this point. At the proceedings against
Eichmann in Jerusalem in 1961, the lawyer Dr. Robert Servatius had not
wanted to raise the question; in a letter on this subject dated June
21, 1974, he wrote me: "Eichmann hat selbst keine Gaskammer gesehen;
die Frage wurde nicht diskutiert; er hat sich aber auch nicht gegen
deren Existenz gewandt" [Eichmann himself had not seen any gas
chamber; the question was not discussed; but neither did he raise the
issue of their existence].[6]
At the Frankfurt Trial of 1963-65, the lawyers showed themselves to be
particularly timid. I should mention that the atmosphere was rather
inhospitable for the defense and the accused. This show trial will
remain as a blot on the honor of German justice as on the person of
Hans Hofmeyer, initially Landgerichtsdirektor, then Senatspr�sident.
During more than 180 sessions, the judges and juries, the public
prosecutors and the private parties, the accused and their attorneys,
as well as the journalists who had come from around the world,
accepted as a complete physical representation of the 'crime weapon' a
mere map of the camp of Auschwitz and a map of the camp of Birkenau,
whereupon five minuscule geometric figures were inscribed for the
location of each of the alleged homicidal gas chambers, with the
words, for Auschwitz: "Altes Krematorium", and for Birkenau:
"Krematorium II", "Krematorium III", "Krematorium IV", and
"Krematorium V"! These maps[7] were displayed in the courtroom.
The Revisionists have often compared the Frankfurt trial with the
1450-1650 trials against witchcraft. Nevertheless, at least during
those trials, someone sometimes bothered to describe or depict the
witches' sabbath. At the Frankfurt trial, even among the lawyers who
made difficulties for a witness like Filip M�ller, not one asked of a
Jewish witness or a repentant German defendant to describe for him in
greater detail what he was purported to have seen. Despite two
judicial visits to the scene of the crime at Auschwitz, accompanied by
some German lawyers, it seems not one of the latter insisted on any
technical explanations or criminological expertise regarding the
murder weapon. To the contrary, one of them, Anton Reiners, a
Frankfurt lawyer, pushed complacency to the point of having himself
photographed by the press while raising the chute cover by which the
SS supposedly sprinkled Zyklon B granules into the alleged Auschwitz
gas chamber.
And so at Toronto in 1985, I had fully decided to do away with these
anomalies, to break the taboo and, for starters, pose, or rather have
Douglas Christie pose, questions to the experts and Jewish witnesses
as one normally poses in every trial where one is supposed to
establish whether a crime has been committed and, if so, by whom, how
and when.
Fortunately for me, Ernst Z�ndel accepted my conditions and Douglas
Christie consented to adopt this course of action and to pose to the
experts and witnesses the questions that I would prepare for him. I
was convinced that, in this manner, all might change, and the veil
woven by so many false testimonies could be torn away. While I was not
counting on Ernst Z�ndel's acquittal and we were all resigned to
paying the price for our audacity, I nevertheless had hope that with
the aid of this far-sighted man of character, and thanks to his
intrepid lawyer, history, if not justice, would at last carry him into
historical prominence.
From the moment of the first cross-examination, a tremor of panic
began to creep its way amid the ranks of the prosecution. Every
evening and throughout most of the night, I would prepare the
questions to ask. In the morning, I would turn over these questions,
accompanied by the necessary documents, to lawyer Doug Christie who,
for his part and with the aid of his female collaborator, conducted
the essentially legal aspects of the effort. During the
cross-examinations, I maintained a position close to the lawyer's
podium and unremittingly furnished, on yellow notepads, supplementary
and improvisational questions according to the experts' and witnesses'
responses.
The expert cited by the prosecution was Dr. Raul Hilberg, author of
The Destruction of European Jews. Day after day, he was subjected to
such humiliation that, when solicited in 1988 by a new prosecutor for
a new trial against Ernst Z�ndel, Prof. Hilberg refused to return to
give witness; he explained the motive for his refusal in a
confidential letter wherein he acknowledged his fear of having to once
again confront the questions of Douglas Christie. From the
cross-examination of Dr. Raul Hilberg, it was definitively brought out
that no one possessed any proof for the existence either of an order,
a plan, an instruction, or a budget for the presumed physical
extermination of the Jews. Furthermore, no one possessed either an
expertise of the murder weapon (whether gas chamber or gas van), or an
autopsy report establishing the murder of a detainee by poison gas.
However, in the absence of evidence regarding the weapon and victim,
did there exist witnesses of the crime?
A testimony must always be verified. The usual first means of
proceeding to this verification is to confront the assertions of the
witness with the results of investigations or expert opinion regarding
the material nature of the crime. In the case at hand, there were
neither investigations, nor expertise relative to the alleged
Auschwitz gas chambers. Here is what made any cross-examination
difficult. Yet, this difficulty should not serve as an excuse, and one
might even say that a cross-examination becomes ever more
indispensable because, without it, there no longer remains any way of
knowing whether the witness is telling the truth or not.
Jewish Witnesses Finally Cross-Examined:
Arnold Friedman and Dr. Rudolf Vrba
For those persons interested in the technical and documentary means by
which we were nevertheless in a position to severely cross-examine the
two principal Jewish witnesses, Arnold Friedman and Dr. Rudolf Vrba, I
can do no better than to recommend a reading of the trial
transcript.[8] Pages 304-371 cover the questioning and
cross-examination of Arnold Friedman; the latter breaks down on pages
445-446 when he ends by acknowledging that he in fact saw nothing,
that he had spoken from hearsay because, according to him, he had met
persons who were convincing; perhaps, he added, he would have adopted
the position of Mr. Christie rather than that of these other persons
if only Mr. Christie had been able to tell him back then what he was
telling him now!
Dr. Vrba was a witness of exceptional importance. One might even say
about this trial in Toronto that the prosecution had found the means
of recruiting 'Holocaust' expert number one in the person of Dr. Raul
Hilberg, and witness number one in the person of Dr. Rudolf Vrba. The
testimony of this latter gentleman had been one of the principal
sources of the famous War Refugee Board Report on the German
Extermination Camps - Auschwitz and Birkenau, published in November
1944 by the Executive Office of President Roosevelt. Dr. R. Vrba was
also the author of I Cannot Forgive,[9] written in collaboration with
Alan Bestic who, in his preface, declares with regard to him:
"Indeed I would like to pay tribute to him for the immense trouble he
took over every detail; for the meticulous, almost fanatical respect
he revealed for accuracy." (p.2).
,Never perhaps, had a court of justice seen a witness express himself
with more assurance on the Auschwitz gas chambers. Yet, by the end of
the cross-examination, the situation had reversed itself to the point
where Dr. R. Vrba was left with only one explanation for his errors
and his lies: in his book he had, he confessed, resorted to "poetic
license" or, as he was wont to say in Latin, to "licentia poetarum"!
In the end, a bit of drama unfolded: Mr. Griffiths, the prosecutor who
had himself solicited the presence of this witness numero uno and yet
now apparently exasperated by Dr. Vrba's lies, fired off the following
question:
"You told Mr. Christie several times in discussing your book I Cannot
Forgive that you used poetic license in writing that book. Have you
used poetic license in your testimony?" (p. 1636).
The false witness tried to parry the blow but prosecutor Griffiths hit
him with a second question equally treacherous, this time concerning
the number of gassing victims which Vrba had given; the witness
responded with garrulous nonsense; Griffiths was getting ready to ask
him a third and final question when suddenly, the matter was cut short
and one heard the prosecutor say to the judge:
"I have no further questions for Dr. Vrba" (p. 1643).
Crestfallen, the witness left the dock. Dr. Vrba's initial
questioning, cross-examination and final questioning filled 400 pages
of transcripts (pp. 1244-1643). These pages could readily be used in
an encyclopedia of law under a chapter on the detection of false
witnesses.
The Prosecution Gives up on Calling Witnesses
Three years later, in 1988, during the second trial against Ernst
Z�ndel, the public prosecutor deemed it prudent to abandon any
recourse to witnesses. Canadian justice had apparently understood the
lesson of the first trial: there were no credible witnesses to the
existence and operation of the 'Nazi gas chambers'.
Little by little, every other country in the world has learned this
same lesson. At the trial of Klaus Barbie in France, in 1987, there
was talk about the gas chambers of Auschwitz but no one produced any
witnesses who could properly speak about them.[10] The attorney
Jacques Verg�s, courageous yet not foolhardy, preferred to avoid the
subject. This was a stroke of luck for the Jewish lawyers who feared
nothing so much as to see me appearing at the side of Mr. Verg�s. If
this gentleman had accepted my offer to counsel him, we in France
might have been able to strike a tremendous blow against the myth of
the gas chambers.
All the while in France, during several revisionist trials, Jewish
witnesses sometimes came to evoke the gas chambers but none of them
testified before the court as to having seen one or having
participated in a homicidal gassing by hauling bodies out of the 'gas
chambers'.
Today, gas chamber witnesses are making themselves extremely scarce
and the Demjanjuk trial in Israel, which once again has revealed how
much false testimony is involved in the matter, has contributed to the
suppression. Several years ago, it happened that I was aggressively
questioned at the rear of a law court by elderly Jews who presented
themselves as "living witnesses to the gas chambers of Auschwitz",
showing me their tattoos. It was necessary for me only to ask them to
look me in the eyes and to describe for me a gas chamber that
inevitably they retorted:
"How could I do this? If I had seen a gas chamber with my own eyes I
would not be here today to speak with you; I myself would have been
gassed also."
This brings us back, as one can see, to Simone Veil and her
declaration of May 7, 1983, about which we already know what we should
think�
Montgomey Shuyler: "It is probably unwise to say this loudly in the
Nearly everyone has heard of Auschwitz, the German wartime
concentration camp where many prisoners-most of them Jewish-were
reportedly exterminated, especially in gas chambers. Auschwitz is
widely regarded as the most terrible Nazi extermination center. The
camp's horrific reputation cannot, however, be reconciled with the
facts.
Scholars challenge Holocaust story
Astonishing as it may seem, more and more historians and engineers
have been challenging the widely accepted Auschwitz story. These
"revisionist" scholars do not dispute the fact that large numbers of
Jews were deported to the camp, or that many died there, particularly
of typhus and other diseases. But the compelling evidence they present
shows that Auschwitz was not an extermination center and that the
story of mass killings in "gas chambers" is a myth.
The Auschwitz camps
The Auschwitz camp complex was set up in 1940 in what is now
south-central Poland. Large numbers of Jews were deported there
between 1942 and mid-1944.
The main camp was known as Auschwitz I. Birkenau, or Auschwitz II, was
supposedly the main extermination center, and Monowitz, or Auschwitz
III, was a large industrial center where gasoline was produced from
coal. In addition there were dozens of smaller satellite camps devoted
to the war economy.
Four million victims?
At the postwar Nuremberg Tribunal, the Allies charged that the Germans
exterminated four million people at Auschwitz. This figure, which was
invented by the Soviets, was uncritically accepted for many years. It
often appeared in major American newspapers and magazines, for
example. (note 1)
Today no reputable historian, not even those who generally accept the
extermination story, believes this figure. Israeli Holocaust historian
Yehuda Bauer said in 1989 that it is time to finally acknowledge the
familiar four million figure is a deliberate myth. In July 1990 the
Auschwitz State Museum in Poland, along with Israel's Yad Vashem
Holocaust Center, suddenly announced that altogether perhaps one
million people (both Jews and non-Jews) died there. Neither
institution would say how many of these people were killed, nor were
any estimates given of the numbers of those supposedly gassed. (note
2) One prominent Holocaust historian, Gerald Reitlinger, has estimated
that perhaps 700,000 or so Jews perished at Auschwitz. More recently,
Holocaust historian Jean-Claude Pressac has estimated that about
800,000 persons-of whom 630,000 were Jewish-perished at Auschwitz.
While even such lower figures are incorrect, they show how the
Auschwitz story has changed drastically over the years. (note 3)
Bizarre tales
At one time it was seriously claimed that Jews were systematically
electrocuted at Auschwitz. American newspapers, citing a Soviet
eyewitness report from liberated Auschwitz, told readers in February
1945 that the methodical Germans had killed Jews there using an
"electric conveyor belt on which hundreds of persons could be
electrocuted simultaneously [and] then moved on into furnaces. They
were burned almost instantly, producing fertilizer for nearby cabbage
fields." (note 4)
And at the Nuremberg Tribunal, chief U.S. prosecutor Robert Jackson
charged that the Germans used a "newly invented" device to
instantaneously "vaporize" 20,000 Jews near Auschwitz "in such a way
that there was no trace left of them." (note 5) No reputable historian
now accepts either of these fanciful tales.
The H�ss 'confession'
A key Holocaust document is the "confession" of former Auschwitz
commandant Rudolf H�ss of April 5, 1946, which was submitted by the
U.S. prosecution at the main Nuremberg trial. (note 6)
Although it is still widely cited as solid proof for the Auschwitz
extermination story, it is actually a false statement that was
obtained by torture.
Many years after the war, British military intelligence sergeant
Bernard Clarke described how he and five other British soldiers
tortured the former commandant to obtain his "confession." H�ss
himself privately explained his ordeal in these words: "Certainly, I
signed a statement that I killed two and half million Jews. I could
just as well have said that it was five million Jews. There are
certain methods by which any confession can be obtained, whether it is
true or not." (note 7)
Even historians who generally accept the Holocaust extermination story
now acknowledge that many of the specific statements made in the H�ss
"affidavit" are simply not true. For one thing, no serious scholar now
claims that anything like two and a half or three million people
perished in Auschwitz.
The H�ss "affidavit" further alleges that Jews were already being
exterminated by gas in the summer of 1941 at three other camps:
Belzec, Treblinka and Wolzek. The "Wolzek" camp mentioned by H�ss is a
total invention. No such camp existed, and the name is no longer
mentioned in Holocaust literature. Moreover, the story these days by
those who believe in the Holocaust legend is that gassings of Jews did
not begin at Auschwitz, Treblinka, or Belzec until sometime in 1942.
No documentary evidence
Many thousands of secret German documents dealing with Auschwitz were
confiscated after the war by the Allies. Not a single one refers to a
policy or program of extermination. In fact, the extermination story
cannot be reconciled with the documentary evidence.
Many Jewish inmates unable to work
For example, it is often claimed that all Jews at Auschwitz who were
unable to work were immediately killed. Jews who were too old, young,
sick, or weak were supposedly gassed on arrival, and only those who
could be worked to death were temporarily kept alive.
But the evidence shows that, in fact, a very high percentage of the
Jewish inmates were not able to work, and were nevertheless not
killed. For example, an internal German telex message dated Sept. 4,
1943, from the chief of the Labor Allocation department of the SS
Economic and Administrative Main Office (WVHA), reported that of
25,000 Jewish inmates in Auschwitz, only 3,581 were able to work, and
that all of the remaining Jewish inmates-some 21,500, or about 86
percent-were unable to work. (note 8)
This is also confirmed in a secret report dated April 5, 1944, on
"security measures in Auschwitz" by Oswald Pohl, head of the SS
concentration camp system, to SS chief Heinrich Himmler. Pohl reported
that there was a total of 67,000 inmates in the entire Auschwitz camp
complex, of whom 18,000 were hospitalized or disabled. In the
Auschwitz II camp (Birkenau), supposedly the main extermination
center, there were 36,000 inmates, mostly female, of whom
"approximately 15,000 are unable to work." (note 9)
These two documents simply cannot be reconciled with the Auschwitz
extermination story.
The evidence shows that Auschwitz-Birkenau was established primarily
as a camp for Jews who were not able to work, including the sick and
elderly, as well as for those who were temporarily awaiting assignment
to other camps. That's the considered view of Dr. Arthur Butz of
Northwestern University, who also says that this was the reason for
the unusually high death rate there. (note 10)
Princeton University history professor Arno Mayer, who is Jewish,
acknowledges in a recent book about the "final solution" that more
Jews perished at Auschwitz as a result of typhus and other "natural"
causes than were executed. (note 11)
Anne Frank
Perhaps the best known Auschwitz inmate was Anne Frank, who is known
around the world for her famous diary. But few people know that
thousands of Jews, including Anne and her father, Otto Frank,
"survived" Auschwitz.
The 15-year-old girl and her father were deported from the Netherlands
to Auschwitz in September 1944. Several weeks later, in the face of
the advancing Soviet army, Anne was evacuated along with many other
Jews to the Bergen-Belsen camp, where she died of typhus in March
1945.
Her father came down with typhus in Auschwitz and was sent to the camp
hospital to recover. He was one of thousands of sick and feeble Jews
who were left behind when the Germans abandoned the camp in January
1945, shortly before it was overrun by the Soviets. He died in
Switzerland in 1980.
If the German policy had been to kill Anne Frank and her father, they
would not have survived Auschwitz. Their fate, tragic though it was,
cannot be reconciled with the extermination story.
Allied propaganda
The Auschwitz gassing story is based in large part on the hearsay
statements of former Jewish inmates who did not personally see any
evidence of extermination. Their beliefs are understandable, because
rumors about gassings at Auschwitz were widespread.
Allied planes dropped large numbers of LEAFLETS , written in Polish
and German, on Auschwitz and the surrounding areas which claimed that
people were being gassed in the camp. The Auschwitz gassing story,
which was an important part of the Allied wartime propaganda effort,
was also broadcast to Europe by Allied radio stations. (note 12)
Survivor testimony
Former inmates have confirmed that they saw no evidence of
extermination at Auschwitz.
An Austrian woman, Maria Vanherwaarden, testified about her camp
experiences in a Toronto District Court in March 1988. She was
interned in Auschwitz-Birkenau in 1942 for having sexual relations
with a Polish forced laborer. On the train trip to the camp, a Gypsy
woman told her and the others that they would all be gassed at
Auschwitz.
Upon arrival, Maria and the other women were ordered to undress and go
into a large concrete room without windows to take a shower. The
terrified women were sure that they were about to die. But then,
instead of gas, water came out of the shower heads.
Auschwitz was no vacation center, Maria confirmed. She witnessed the
death of many fellow inmates by disease, particularly typhus, and
quite a few committed suicide. But she saw no evidence at all of mass
killings, gassings, or of any extermination program. (note 13)
A Jewish woman named Marika Frank arrived at Auschwitz-Birkenau from
Hungary in July 1944, when 25,000 Jews were supposedly gassed and
cremated daily. She likewise testified after the war that she heard
and saw nothing of "gas chambers" during the time she was interned
there. She heard the gassing stories only later. (note 14)
Inmates released
Auschwitz internees who had served their sentences were released and
returned to their home countries. If Auschwitz had actually been a top
secret extermination center, the Germans would certainly not have
released inmates who "knew" what was happening in the camp. (note 15)
Himmler orders death rate reduced
In response to the deaths of many inmates due to disease, especially
typhus, the German authorities responsible for the camps ordered firm
counter-measures.
The head of the SS camp administration office sent a directive dated
Dec. 28, 1942, to Auschwitz and the other concentration camps. It
sharply criticized the high death rate of inmates due to disease, and
ordered that "camp physicians must use all means at their disposal to
significantly reduce the death rate in the various camps."
Furthermore, it ordered:
The camp doctors must supervise more often than in the past the
nutrition of the prisoners and, in cooperation with the
administration, submit improvement recommendations to the camp
commandants . . . The camp doctors are to see to it that the working
conditions at the various labor places are improved as much as
possible.
Finally, the directive stressed that "the Reichsfhrer SS [Heinrich
Himmler] has ordered that the death rate absolutely must be reduced."
(note 16)
German camp regulations
Official German camp regulations make clear that Auschwitz was not an
extermination center. They ordered: (note 17)
New arrivals in the camp are to be given a thorough medical
examination, and if there is any doubt [about their health], they must
be sent to quarantine for observation.
Prisoners who report sick must be examined that same day by the camp
physician. If necessary, the physician must transfer the prisoners to
a hospital for professional treatment.
The camp physician must regularly inspect the kitchen regarding the
preparation of the food and the quality of the food supply. Any
deficiencies that may arise must be reported to the camp commandant.
Special care should be given in the treatment of accidents, in order
not to impair the full productivity of the prisoners.
Prisoners who are to be released or transfered must first be brought
before the camp physician for medical examination.
Telltale aerial photos
Detailed aerial reconnaissance photographs taken of Auschwitz-Birkenau
on several random days in 1944 (during the height of the alleged
extermination period there) were made public by the CIA in 1979. These
photos show no trace of piles of corpses, smoking crematory chimneys
or masses of Jews awaiting death, things that have been repeatedly
alleged, and all of which would have been clearly visible if Auschwitz
had been the extermination center it is said to have been. (note 18)
Absurd cremation claims
Cremation specialists have confirmed that thousands of corpses could
not possibly have been cremated every day throughout the spring and
summer of 1944 at Auschwitz, as commonly alleged.
For example, Mr. Ivan Lagace, manager of a large crematory in Calgary,
Canada, testified in court in April 1988 that the Auschwitz cremation
story is technically impossible. The allegation that 10,000 or even
20,000 corpses were burned every day at Auschwitz in the summer of
1944 in crematories and open pits is simply "preposterous" and "beyond
the realm of reality," he declared under oath. (note 19)
Gassing expert refutes extermination story
America's leading gas chamber expert, Boston engineer Fred A.
Leuchter, carefully examined the supposed "gas chambers" in Poland and
concluded that the Auschwitz gassing story is absurd and technically
impossible.
Leuchter is the foremost specialist on the design and installation of
gas chambers used in the United States to execute convicted criminals.
For example, he designed a gas chamber facility for the Missouri state
penitentiary.
In February 1988 he carried out a detailed onsite examination of the
"gas chambers" at Auschwitz, Birkenau and Majdanek in Poland, which
are either still standing or only partially in ruins. In sworn
testimony to a Toronto court and in a technical report, Leuchter
described every aspect of his investigation.
He concluded by emphatically declaring that the alleged gassing
facilities could not possibly have been used to kill people. Among
other things, he pointed out that the so-called "gas chambers" were
not properly sealed or vented to kill human beings without also
killing German camp personnel. (note 20)
Dr. William B. Lindsey, a research chemist employed for 33 years by
the Dupont Corporation, likewise testified in a 1985 court case that
the Auschwitz gassing story is technically impossible. Based on a
careful on-site examination of the "gas chambers" at Auschwitz,
Birkenau and Majdanek, and on his years of experience, he declared: "I
have come to the conclusion that no one was willfully or purposefully
killed with Zyklon B [hydrocyanic acid gas] in this manner. I consider
it absolutely impossible." (note 21)
The Diaries of Charles A. Lindbergh, p.986
"That young girl riding on her bicycle - she must know that on the
day the Russians come she will probably be raped by a dozen soldiers.
When do they come? In days? In weeks? That, we have not told the
Germans. She has a good face - nicely dressed in old but clean and
brightly colored garments - like the daughter of a middle class
American family. I realize that we Americans are holding her at
Dessau. She cannot flee to safety.
We will not let her pass our sentries on the roads. We are turning her
and thousands of
others like her over to the Soviet soldiers for their sport. I feel
ashamed."
p.961
"German children look in through the window. We have more food than
we need, but regulations prevent giving it to them. It is difficult to
look at them. I feel ashamed of myself, of my people, as I eat and
watch those children. They are not to blame for the war. They are
hungry children. What right have we to stuff ourselves while they look
on - well-fed men eating, leaving unwanted food on plates, while
hungry children look on."
Berlin Correspondent, The Times, September 10th, 1945
"...Another small boy turned out of Danzig had a scrawled postcard
attached to him stating that his soldier father was long since missing
and that his mother and two sisters had died of hunger."
At this time, Denmark, formerly occupied by the Germans as a means
of denying the allies a North Sea bridgehead was bursting at the seams
with surplus food and was pleading with the allies to put it to good
use. It was refused.
The Nazis and Hitler Saved Us
The really bad guys in World War 2 were the western allies, especially
the Americans. The monumental blindness and stupidity, unmatched
barbarism and sadism of America and Britain nearly brought a new Dark
Age upon a world dominated, not by them, but by the Soviet Union and
communism, Although the Nazis and fascists lost the war-their heroic
struggle with hardly any resources against overwhelming odds allowed
western civilization to survive. After 1945, it was the atomic bomb,
far above and beyond everything else, which allowed the west to
survive, even to this day-but before that, it was ADOLF HITLER who
saved us. For that he deserves our eternal gratitude and admiration.
It was HITLER who built and inspired the small coalition of the
willing to fight the good war against communism. By launching the
attack on the Soviet Union on June 22, 1941 with only conventional
weapons, HITLER and Germany, and Germany's allies pre-empted STALIN's
well-prepared and massive attack to the west, and postponed a complete
Soviet victory long enough for the US and Britain to finally come to
their senses. The US and Britain eventually took up essentially the
same struggle with nuclear weapons, or at least the threat of nuclear
weapons, even when that meant possible destruction of all life on the
planet.
Friedrich Paul Berg
Learn everything at www.nazigassings.com
America was founded and built by White people.
Jefferson's lifelong advocacy of racial separatism is
well-documented and undeniable. He desired that all Blacks be
returned to Africa or, in the interest of practicality, shipped to
the island of Santo Domingo in the Caribbean. Any interpretation of
Jefferson's words which is in direct contradiction to his forcefully
and repeatedly expressed beliefs on race is obviously an incorrect
interpretation.
Naturally, what the boobs are taught in the schools and on the idiot
box about these words is totally at variance with the facts of the
matter.
Thomas Jefferson, who rationally opposed Black slavery on the
grounds that it was bad for both races, also opposed converting
America into a multiracial society. His plan to end slavery included
a plan for the humane resettlement of all freed Blacks in Africa.
From 1776 to 1778, Jefferson drafted proposed revisions and
modernizations to the laws of Virginia dealing with slaves. When
finished, his proposals included these provisions:
1. Free Blacks were forbidden to enter the state.
2. Blacks freed in Virginia were required to leave the state within
one year.
3. A White woman bearing a mixed-race child was required to leave
Virginia within one year.
4. Those who violated these statutes were to be placed "outside of
the protection of the laws"-that is, they could be dealt with by
anyone in any way with absolute impunity, which was the original
meaning of the term "outlaw" and which certainly constituted a most
terrible punishment.
In 1824, only two years before his death, Jefferson proposed an
alternative to the emancipation and relocation of all Blacks to
Africa: gradual emancipation of all newly-born Blacks, and their
transportation after a few years to the island of Santo Domingo.
Throughout his public life, Jefferson held true to his concept of
humane racial separation which he summed up in his Notes on the State
of Virginia (1781, Query XIV):
"Among the Romans emancipation required but one effort. The slave,
when made free, might mix with, without staining the blood of his
master. But with us a second is necessary, unknown to history. When
freed, he is to be removed beyond the reach of mixture."
Modern Americans, particularly those with no or only a dim memory of
the Old America, are probably easy to fool in large numbers. That is
why the media liars and "educators" are able to get away with
twisting Jefferson's legacy until it is close to being the opposite
of Jefferson's actual views
<Over 90% are from mexico...mexican citizens.
No, only about 60% of illegal aliens are Mexican.
<(Actually almost all are since they are allowed to pass through mexico
<before sneaking into the US)
In this context, "from" means the place or nation of origin, not points in
transit. And there is considerable data to the effect that 30% to 40% of
illegal aliens are visa overstays, who did not cross the US / Mexico border
ever.
And the estimates of illegals that have infiltrated into the US range
up to 32 million.
> In any event, "American Culture" has always been quite dynamic.
<And quite northern european.
Ah, the Italians, I see, are from northern Europe. And the 15% of the US
population that is Black is of norhtern European heritage, also? And Native
Americans, and the Spanish-descended folks of the Southwest who were there
before the purchase?
How about the growing percentage of Americans who trace their origins to
Asia?
> There was
> much of the German and Dutch in the original culture at the time of
> Independence. Add millions of Irish in the 1840's (a vastly higher
> percentage of the total nation that the few Mexicans today), more millions
> of Germans around 1880,
<All northern europeans who tooke the time to assimilate into the
<existing european culture that founded the US.
No, they mixed, not converted. Those that were here absorbed some of what
each group brought, while the newcomers learned from those here first.
> ...and many millions of Italians from the late 1800's
> through the start of W.W. II. Then there is the French influence in
> various
> parts of the country, from the Arcadians in Maine to the Bayous of
> Louisiana. And the Spanish influence from Texas to California.
<Europeans.
Is that a retraction? First they were "northern" Europeans, now they are
just European.
> Add the
> African cultural influences in everything from dress to music and food,
> and
> you have a melange of great influences, all of which joined to make the
> culture of the nation.
<All of whom have made 'The American Culture'.
"American culture" is not "made." That would assume a finished project. The
culture is constantly undergoing change, and will in the future.
> A few million folks from Mexico are just going to
> contribute a bit more...
<30 million illegal foreign invaders who are proclaiming a 're-
<conquest' of US territory by their mud-hut cultural adherents are
<simply *criminals* who have no right to even be on US territory.#)
<million illegal invaders are NOT 'a few folks'.
You overstate by a factor of over four.
> of course, we have had a Spanish speaking part of
> the US, Puerto Rico, since 1898, and no harm seems to have come from that.
<Puerto Rico is a foreign nation that is working for total
<independence.
Puerto Rico is a US Commonwealth, with full birthrights to American
citizenship, free transit within the nation, etc.
And the Puertorican Independence Party is so small it has not requalified
for ballot inclusion in the next elections. It polled around 1% of the vote.
A majority voted for the statehood party's candidates (PNP) and the
possibility of Puerto Rico petitioning to become a state is greater than
ever.
<The only reason it has not severed relations is because they receive
<huge amounts of welfare money from US taxpayers.
That is a crock. Puerto Ricans are US citizens, and less than a percent want
to change that.
<Personally, I think they should be forced to accept independece as
<currently they are just another non-productive parasitic drag on US
<taxpayer.
Next time you go to a drug store, remember that about half of the
prescription drugs sold in the US are made there.
<(We can only support so many free-loading 'latinos'; resources are
<finite)
For 111 years, Puerto Rico has been part of the US, and its people citizens
since 1917.
> Obviously, you don't get the fact that culture is not static.
<It is you has lacks an understanding of the value of culture.. US
<culture.
<You want to trash the current US cullture and replace it with a failed
<mexican one.
<You want to replace existing americans with mexican criminals.
A nation survives by constantly changing and trying to improve. New
influences create change, and the reason the US has survived so well is due
in no small part to the contribution of all manner of immigrants.
> < who are swarming into american towns and stealing US
> <taxpayer resources and jobs while speaking some sort of foreign
> <gobbledeegook language instead of English - which has been the common
> <language of americans since at least the Constitution was written.
>
> Actually, many languages have been spoken in the US for centuries.
<Minor languages have always benn spoken in private settings.
<The goobledeegook mexican language is spoken by huge segments of the
<invader community; many do not speak any english at all, and force
<their foreign language onto US citizens who (by law) are forced to
<attempt to communicate with them.
"Mexican" is a nationality, not a language. And during periods of time, huge
percentages of Americans spoke languages like Italian and German. In fact,
the highest percentage of foreign born persons in the population occured
during the decade starting in 1900!
<Be quiet, you liar and distorter of facts...
<I am far more knowledgable than you.
<You are to be a mere disinformation agent.
You have made errors ranging from nearly trippling the number of illegal
immigrants to the absurd claim about "northern Europeans" and saying
"Mexican" is a language.
>Let's start with all the
> Native American tongues,
<Since you cannot overcome the criminality of illegal invasion, you
<begin to repeat yourself with incoherent babble.
<Come back when you can talk sense again.
When something is allowed, pretty much unfettered, for decades it is hard to
call it illegal.
> "lorad" <lora...@cs.com> wrote in message news:987367b1-00c7-4f72-8961->
> The accepted figure for illegal aliens is around 12 million, and estimates
>> are that the present explosion of the American economy has seen 2 million
>> return home. In any case, of the 12 million, about 7 to 8 million are from
>> Latin America, and about 6 million are from Mexico.
>
> <Over 90% are from mexico...mexican citizens.
>
> No, only about 60% of illegal aliens are Mexican.
How? Even using your own figures. How, out of supposedly "12 million
illegals" can "6 million Mexicans" be "60% while more "Latin Americans, "7
to 8 million" be less of a percentage?
This is one of your "one plus one is not two" things again?
> <(Actually almost all are since they are allowed to pass through mexico
> <before sneaking into the US)
>
> In this context, "from" means the place or nation of origin,...
Lorad's point, not yours, is valid. Because the Mexican Government allows
that passage, it is the Mexican government responsible for their being in
the U.S.. The Mexican Government's consulates have even stated that their
consulates and services, including protection (racket) departments, are
open for Latin Americans.
> not points in
> transit. And there is considerable data to the effect that 30% to 40% of
> illegal aliens are visa overstays, who did not cross the US / Mexico border
> ever.
Then how did they get here? How does having a "visa" get them here without
crossing the border "ever"?
> And the estimates of illegals that have infiltrated into the US range
> up to 32 million.
>
>> In any event, "American Culture" has always been quite dynamic.
>
> <And quite northern european.
>
> Ah, the Italians, I see, are from northern Europe.
"Quite" does not mean "all."
> And the 15% of the US
> population that is Black is of norhtern European heritage, also? And Native
> Americans, and the Spanish-descended folks of the Southwest who were there
> before the purchase?
While certainly their "heritages" have added to a single American culture,
the foundation of the culture is not even "Northern European" per se rather
than English specifically. It is that language, that "heritage," that
heritage's dynamics and especially law which not only binds all Americans,
but also compels America.
> How about the growing percentage of Americans who trace their origins to
> Asia?
What about them? They adjust and assimilate or, like anyone else, they are
not Americans.
The fact is, there have almost always been Asians in the U.S.A.; and they
are Americans. Not Asians for having adjusted and assimilated.
Try telling them they are not Americans and instead any kind of separate
entity as you strive to have it for them and everyone else.
>> There was
>> much of the German and Dutch in the original culture at the time of
>> Independence. Add millions of Irish in the 1840's (a vastly higher
>> percentage of the total nation that the few Mexicans today), more millions
>> of Germans around 1880,
None of which, then or even today, allow themselves to be even governed by
"Germany," the "Netherlands" or "Ireland" as do Mexicans by Mexico City.
None of which, then or even today, have and adhere to dozens of Mexican
consulates or, respectively, its allied Latin American government's
similarly governing consulates.
None of which, then or even today, would tolerate such separate media as
Television, Azteca, etc. and its stooges, like you, propagandizing its
audiences to be separate from and even aggressive toward the very nation
and its culture which hosts them.
None of which, then or even today, would claim such preposterous notions
that colonists, willing or not or even witting or not, are somehow
"immigrants."
None of which, then or even today, would insist that such fundamental
conflicts of interest as dual citizenship is natural and even a right
instead of absolutely abhorrent to even the most crucial precepts of
justice.
> <All northern europeans who tooke the time to assimilate into the
> <existing european culture that founded the US.
>
> No, they mixed, not converted....
They 'assimilated' and did "convert" by leaving Old World notions of class
and national loyalties as left behind as the very governments and classes
which had once claimed them.
And were more than glad to do it.
> Those that were here absorbed some of what
> each group brought, while the newcomers learned from those here first.
Not to, or even want to, change the very fundamentals of the nation and its
culture which were, and for authentic immigrants, the very attraction for
which they not only came but would die defending---even against their
original nations and those nation's respective governments.
>> ...and many millions of Italians from the late 1800's
>> through the start of W.W. II. Then there is the French influence in
>> various
>> parts of the country, from the Arcadians in Maine to the Bayous of
>> Louisiana. And the Spanish influence from Texas to California.
>
> <Europeans.
>
> Is that a retraction? First they were "northern" Europeans, now they are
> just European.
Quit your nit-picking.
>> Add the
>> African cultural influences in everything from dress to music and food,
>> and
>> you have a melange of great influences, all of which joined to make the
>> culture of the nation.
>
> <All of whom have made 'The American Culture'.
>
> "American culture" is not "made." That would assume a finished project. The
> culture is constantly undergoing change, and will in the future.
>
>> A few million folks from Mexico are just going to
>> contribute a bit more...
>
> <30 million illegal foreign invaders who are proclaiming a 're-
> <conquest' of US territory by their mud-hut cultural adherents are
> <simply *criminals* who have no right to even be on US territory.#)
> <million illegal invaders are NOT 'a few folks'.
>
> You overstate by a factor of over four.
You attempt to disguise invasion.
>> of course, we have had a Spanish speaking part of
>> the US, Puerto Rico, since 1898, and no harm seems to have come from that.
>
> <Puerto Rico is a foreign nation that is working for total
> <independence.
>
> Puerto Rico is a US Commonwealth, with full birthrights to American
> citizenship, free transit within the nation, etc.
Yet "working for total independence."
There is nothing unusual with Hispanics being, as irrational as it is, that
conflictive. Even subversive.
> And the Puertorican Independence Party is so small it has not requalified
> for ballot inclusion in the next elections. It polled around 1% of the vote.
> A majority voted for the statehood party's candidates (PNP) and the
> possibility of Puerto Rico petitioning to become a state is greater than
> ever.
It is not even a matter of the U.S.A. not needing Puerto Rico, or even a
matter of the U.S.A. rejecting any petition for statehood rather than the
U.S.A. dissolving even the common-wealth relationship with Puerto Rico.
Simply dump independence on Puerto Rico whether Puerto Ricans think they
want it or not. Until they have independence for Puerto Rico, Puerto Ricans
will never appreciate the value independence is---particularly for
Americans. Like all Latin American nations, Puerto Rico really doesn't know
what Independence is.
There wars of independence were reactionary not liberating.
They fought to keep Old World Spain alive in the New World.
So? Have real independence for once. You can then form your pan-Hispanic
America from there. You can make Puerto Rico its very hub.
> <The only reason it has not severed relations is because they receive
> <huge amounts of welfare money from US taxpayers.
>
> That is a crock. Puerto Ricans are US citizens, and less than a percent want
> to change that.
Which has absolutely nothing to do with what their motivation is.
> <Personally, I think they should be forced to accept independece as
> <currently they are just another non-productive parasitic drag on US
> <taxpayer.
>
> Next time you go to a drug store, remember that about half of the
> prescription drugs sold in the US are made there.
So? Are the drug companies immobilized there. They can leave. If they want
to stay. No problemo.
> <(We can only support so many free-loading 'latinos'; resources are
> <finite)
>
> For 111 years, Puerto Rico has been part of the US, and its people citizens
> since 1917.
So? All dissolvable.
>> Obviously, you don't get the fact that culture is not static.
>
> <It is you has lacks an understanding of the value of culture.. US
> <culture.
> <You want to trash the current US cullture and replace it with a failed
> <mexican one.
> <You want to replace existing americans with mexican criminals.
>
> A nation survives by constantly changing and trying to improve. New
> influences create change, and the reason the US has survived so well is due
> in no small part to the contribution of all manner of immigrants.
There you go again. First of all, and as obvious as it is, Puerto Ricans
are not "U.S. citizens" because they "immigrated" to the U.S.A.. Gad!
While particularly Mexico's nationals, and Mexico City's allied Central
American nations's, are not "immigrants."
They are "colonists."
Tell me how many Puerto Ricans would claim two national citizenships with
the U.S.A. and Puerto Rico does not make sense but, instead, somehow makes
sense for Mexicans and other Latin Americans?
Tell me of even one Puerto Rican who actively resists that notion?
Tell me of even one Puerto Rican who even protects the value of U.S.
citizenship by rejecting that ludicrous and even subversive design?
>> < who are swarming into american towns and stealing US
>> <taxpayer resources and jobs while speaking some sort of foreign
>> <gobbledeegook language instead of English - which has been the common
>> <language of americans since at least the Constitution was written.
>>
>> Actually, many languages have been spoken in the US for centuries.
>
> <Minor languages have always benn spoken in private settings.
> <The goobledeegook mexican language is spoken by huge segments of the
> <invader community; many do not speak any english at all, and force
> <their foreign language onto US citizens who (by law) are forced to
> <attempt to communicate with them.
>
> "Mexican" is a nationality, not a language. And during periods of time, huge
> percentages of Americans spoke languages like Italian and German. In fact,
> the highest percentage of foreign born persons in the population occured
> during the decade starting in 1900!
Speaking a foreign language and insisting that the host nation must change
to accommodate for any one or number of foreign languages instead of those
speakers conform---assimilate---to the language of the nation are two very
different things.
When insisting on the nation's accommodation at the very behest and under
the direction of a foreign government, it is even invasive!
> <Be quiet, you liar and distorter of facts...
> <I am far more knowledgable than you.
> <You are to be a mere disinformation agent.
>
> You have made errors ranging from nearly trippling the number of illegal
> immigrants to the absurd claim about "northern Europeans" and saying
> "Mexican" is a language.
Your errors are as many if not more.
But "errors" are just that: "errors."
That is not what you ply however.
You ply the invasion of the U.S.A..
>>Let's start with all the
>> Native American tongues,
>
> <Since you cannot overcome the criminality of illegal invasion, you
> <begin to repeat yourself with incoherent babble.
> <Come back when you can talk sense again.
>
> When something is allowed, pretty much unfettered, for decades it is hard to
> call it illegal.
"Illegal." You just said it.
How "hard" was that?
> "Don Gabacho" <jpas...@nettaxi.com> wrote in message
> news:1ubgrf79p1rk7$.agrazj0ibunu.dlg@40tude.net...
>> On Tue, 5 May 2009 18:42:42 -0700, David Eduardo wrote:
>>>
>>> No, only about 60% of illegal aliens are Mexican.
>>
>> How? Even using your own figures. How, out of supposedly "12 million
>> illegals" can "6 million Mexicans" be "60% while more "Latin Americans, "7
>> to 8 million" be less of a percentage?
>
> There were, per best estimates, 11 to 12 million illegal aliens. About 8
> million are Hispanic, and 6 to 7 million are Mexican. The percentages,
> purposely rounded, are correct. The Mexican percentage of the total, itself
> an approximation, is around 60% (6 to 7 million out of 11 to 12 million
> yields a median of "about" 60%)
Then you meant: "About 8 million are Hispanic and, *of those Hispanics,* 6
to 7 million are Mexican." And, now, "The Mexican percentage of the total
OF HISPANICS..."
Now multiply those supposedly "best estimates" by three and the truth is
'best' approximated.
>> This is one of your "one plus one is not two" things again?
>
> Since it is now estimated that around 1.5 to 2 million illegal immigrants
> have gone back to their native countires, the numbers are even lower.
Even if true, and not even normal for the winter just past, such a figure
by itself means nothing except deliberate deception without being compared
to the numbers still coming in plus the numbers of anchor babies still
being born here: adding still to the sum total of all nationalized (in
1996) by Mexico's government and its allied Latin American nations.
>> Lorad's point, not yours, is valid. Because the Mexican Government allows
>> that passage, it is the Mexican government responsible for their being in
>> the U.S.. The Mexican Government's consulates have even stated that their
>> consulates and services, including protection (racket) departments, are
>> open for Latin Americans.
>
> All of us in LA must have missed that.
So? You did.
> The consulates are overburdened and
> underfinanced as it is...
Horseshit. The Mexican Government always claims it's "overburdened" and
even broke yet they are still opening new ones.
>In fact, it is very dangerous for Central Americans
> to transit through Mexico, as they are not liked...
They are not "disliked."
> and often robbed and beaten
> and worse.
True. Mexico being the extortion racket it is does not spare non-Mexicans
any more than both Mexicans and Central Americans returning to Mexico
having failed---as long instructed and even coerced---the Mexican
government's mission for them: the sending of U.S. cash dollars as
remittances to their respective governments for their dole-out in peso PLUS
the achieving of (dual) voting U.S. citizenship or, at the least, having
had anchor babies while stateside and remaining stateside.
The extortions of northbound Central Americans (well versed in the course
even mandated by the Mexican government for Mexicans, "Follow Me To
America') are not at all different than the tolls exacted by pirates from
ships passing through there territories. Eventually they are passed. For,
if they weren't, none would attempt the passage at all.
And it is precisely that piratism the Mexican government's factions, with
their so-called border guards (at both ends), police and even military
dedicates themselves; and, as already described, not or ever stop the
Central Americans (or anyone else) from entering Mexico for the price of
passage.
>> Then how did they get here? How does having a "visa" get them here without
>> crossing the border "ever"?
>
> Generally, the visa overstays came on tourist or student visas, and are not
> from Mexico. An Argentine or Kenyan or Korean overstay does not usually
> cross the US / Mexican border.
You have erased that which you are responding to: "...without crossing the
border EVER."
>>
>> While certainly their "heritages" have added to a single American culture,
>> the foundation of the culture is not even "Northern European" per se
>> rather
>> than English specifically. It is that language, that "heritage," that
>> heritage's dynamics and especially law which not only binds all Americans,
>> but also compels America.
>
> Not really. English is not really the language of England until fairly
> recent times, and England is such an amalgamation of peoples that your case
> is rather weak if you base it on the US being "English." Care to guess what
> percentage of Brits have a drop or two of Norman blood? Or how many of the
> Irish have Celtic blood from present day Galicia, Spain?
'Yes' "really." You are rationalizing for no other purpose than to serve,
essentially, Mexico City's agenda for the U.S.A..
>> The fact is, there have almost always been Asians in the U.S.A.; and they
>> are Americans. Not Asians for having adjusted and assimilated.
>>
>> Try telling them they are not Americans and instead any kind of separate
>> entity as you strive to have it for them and everyone else.
>
> My point is that assimilation is a give and take. Asians have influenced
> American culture, just as the Asians in the US have adapted to that culture.
You are waffling. Your point has never been "assimilation" or anything
about it.
>> None of which, then or even today, allow themselves to be even governed by
>> "Germany," the "Netherlands" or "Ireland" as do Mexicans by Mexico City.
>
> And that is just a monster of a lie. The majority of persons of Mexican
> heritage here want little to do with Mexico, as they had to leave that
> nation to make a better life. They care about family still there, but not
> about the government.
The "majority of Mexicans" (illegals) don't want anything to do with
Mexican Government not "Mexico" which (except for those either attached to
the Mexican Government or striving to ingratiate themselves to the Mexican
Government: the "legals") they (the illegals) never wanted to leave.
As do Mexico's "legals," they aspire to at least dual residencies
particularly if the Mexican Government is allowed, by the U.S. Government,
to persist with disallowing their returns to Mexico or, if returning,
returning unmolested for themselves and even families who had yet to arrive
in the U.S.A..
As it is, just as in Mexico, Mexicans cannot escape the Mexican government
in the U.S.A. any more than they could in Mexico. The Mexican government
has its numerous consulates, vigilantes and even enforcers in the U.S.A. as
it does in Mexico. Other than those Mexicans in Mexico still to be
exported, Mexicans stateside are targeted, even more than the rest of
Mexicans in Mexico, to tow the Mexican Government's line, remit cash U.S.
dollars for the dole-outs in pesos in Mexico, agitate for and achieve the
paramount mission of obtaining---as long instructed---voting (dual) U.S.
Citizenship of Mexico to be irresistibly controlled by Mexican Government.
To, in every way, shape and form serve the interests of Mexico's governing
elite or the Mexican Government even arrange their deportations back to
Mexico to suffer in Mexico even worse brutalities for themselves and
families than those originally meted out in Mexico to force their original,
so-called "immigrations."
>> None of which, then or even today, would insist that such fundamental
>> conflicts of interest as dual citizenship is natural and even a right
>> instead of absolutely abhorrent to even the most crucial precepts of
>> justice.
>
> Dual citizenship has existed for centuries. But what you are speaking of is
> dual nationality, not dual citizenship. Mexican law clearly distinguishes
> between the two, while in the US the words are nearly synonyms.
The Mexican Government instructs, expects and even commands its nationals
to come to the U.S.A. and become voting U.S. Citizens while their new U.S.
Citizens retain both Mexican nationality and voting Mexican Citizenship.
Even their children born in the U.S.A. to be Mexico's nationals.
>>
>> You attempt to disguise invasion.
>
> Immigration is not invasion. At one time, there were a igher percent of
> Italian nationals in the US than the current percent of Mexican nationals...
The deliberate "colonization" has yet again been described to you.
The "Italians" were authentic "immigrants" and not or ever "colonizers"
willingly or not or even wittinly or not.
Those authentic "immigrants," by there own rejection of Italy, Italian
nationality and Italian Government were no longer "Italian nationals" the
moment they left Italy and would certainly never allowed themselves to be
subjugated to any Italian Government's consulates stateside.
They came to be "Americans" not "Italians"!
You insult authentic immigrants to serve essentially Mexico City's sordid
agenda.
>>> Puerto Rico is a US Commonwealth, with full birthrights to American
>>> citizenship, free transit within the nation, etc.
>>
>> Yet "working for total independence."
>
> No, nearly nobody wants that... particularly after over a century of being
> part of the US. There are probably more white separatists than they are
> Puerto Rican independence partisans.
Always you are like a broken record.
>> It is not even a matter of the U.S.A. not needing Puerto Rico, or even a
>> matter of the U.S.A. rejecting any petition for statehood rather than the
>> U.S.A. dissolving even the common-wealth relationship with Puerto Rico.
>
> Legally not likely; Puerto Ricans are born US citizens with every right of
> every other citizen born here.
Always you are like a broken record.
>>> A nation survives by constantly changing and trying to improve. New
>>> influences create change, and the reason the US has survived so well is
>>> due
>>> in no small part to the contribution of all manner of immigrants.
>>
>> There you go again. First of all, and as obvious as it is, Puerto Ricans
>> are not "U.S. citizens" because they "immigrated" to the U.S.A.. Gad!
>
> It should be obvious even to an admitted drunk like you that I was not
> speaking of Puerto Ricans here,...
You were and I am.
> but of all the groups and nationalities and
> races and ethnicities that have contributed to the culture of this nation.
>
> Puerto Ricans migrate to the mainland, just like those from the dust bowl
> migrated to Califonia in faulkner's time.
>>
>>
>> Tell me how many Puerto Ricans would claim two national citizenships with
>> the U.S.A. and Puerto Rico does not make sense but, instead, somehow makes
>> sense for Mexicans and other Latin Americans?
>>
>> Tell me of even one Puerto Rican who actively resists that notion?
>
> There is no such thing as Puerto Rican citizenship, since Puerto Rico has
> roughly the status that Alaska and Hawaii had prior to becoming states and
> is not a country.
You advocate dual U.S. citizenships for Hispanics and yet avoid the
question for the sordid agenda of Mexico City.
Adios you "admitted" pendejo.
by Jeff Jacoby
The Boston Globe
January 27, 2005
http://www.jeffjacoby.com/4996/a-factory-for-death
BY THE TIME the Soviet Army reached Auschwitz on Jan. 27, 1945 -- 60
years ago this week -- my father was no longer there. Ten days
earlier, the Nazis had evacuated about 67,000 of the death camp's
inmates, dispatching them on brutal forced marches to the west. My
father, then 19, was in a group sent into Austria. He ended up at the
concentration camp in Ebensee, near Mauthausen. Liberation there
didn't come until May 9, with the arrival of US soldiers from the 80th
Infantry Division.
My father had entered Auschwitz the previous spring, together with his
parents, his two brothers, and two of his three sisters. They, too,
were gone by the time the camp was liberated. Unlike my father, they
didn't leave on foot. They "left" through the chimney. For the
overwhelming majority of the more than 1.1 million Jews who were sent
to Auschwitz, there was no other exit.
Jews were not the only victims. Nearly 75,000 Poles, more than 20,000
Gypsies, 15,000 Soviets, and 10,000 members of other nationalities
were murdered at Auschwitz as well. The Nazis first used the camp, in
fact, as a prison for Polish dissidents, and Birkenau, the huge 1941
addition that became the main Auschwitz killing center, was originally
designed to hold Soviet POWs.
But beginning in the spring of 1942, Auschwitz became first and
foremost a slaughterhouse for Jews. From every corner of Europe, Jews
were sent there – from France in the west to Ukraine in the east, from
as far north as Norway and as far south as Greece. Many, like my
father and two of his siblings, were forced into slave labor, in the
expectation that the ghastly conditions and starvation rations would
kill them soon enough. But most of the Jews entering Auschwitz – like
my father's parents and his youngest brother and sister – were
murdered as soon as they arrived.
Auschwitz was a vast factory of death, the site of the greatest mass
murder in recorded history. Even now, two generations later, it is
almost impossible to grasp the scale on which the Nazis committed
homicide there. It is suggested by a detail: From 1942 to 1944, the
train platform in Birkenau was the busiest railway station in Europe.
It held that distinction despite the fact that, unlike every other
train station in the world, it saw only arrivals. No passengers ever
left.
But Auschwitz was not only a place of murder. It was also a place of
theft.
Jews were robbed of everything they owned – the luggage they came
with, the clothes on their backs, the hair on their heads, even the
gold in their teeth. The stolen goods were stored in 35 warehouses,
where they were sorted and packed for shipment to Germany. Before
fleeing in January 1945, the Nazis burned 29 of the warehouses, but in
just the six that remained, the Soviets found 348,820 men's suits,
836,255 dresses, and 43,525 pairs of shoes. There were seven
trainloads of bedding, waiting to be shipped. And 7.7 tons of human
hair. And that was merely what remained at the very end.
The very worst thing about Auschwitz was -- what? The staggering death
toll? The gas chambers disguised as showers, in which thousands of
naked Jews went daily to agonizing deaths? The endless cruelty and
torture? The diseases that ravaged those the Nazis didn't kill first?
Was it the inhuman medical experiments carried out by doctors like
Josef Mengele, such as the deliberate destruction of healthy organs,
or the sadistic abuse of twins and dwarfs? Was it the willing
exploitation of Jewish slave labor by German corporations? The tens of
thousands of murdered children and babies?
No.
The very worst thing about Auschwitz is that, for all its evil
immensity, it was only a fraction of the total. Even if it had never
been built, the Holocaust would still have been a crime without
parallel in human history. It would still have been something so
monstrous that a new word – genocide – would have had to be coined to
encompass it. Never before and never since has a government made the
murder of an entire people its central aim. And never before or since
has a government turned human slaughter into an international
industry, complete with facilities for transportation, selection,
murder, incineration. And none of it as a means to an end, but as an
end in itself: The reason for wiping out the Jews was so that the Jews
would be wiped out.
In the end, 6 million of them were killed. But only one-sixth died at
Auschwitz.
> They knew the
> allies were subhuman monsters:
Their Japanese allies were subhuman monsters just like them.
Read about the Rape of nanking and Unit 731.
Michael
>
>by Jeff Jacoby
Jews are a race of liars. When they had Demjanjuk in Israel, Jews
were coming out of the woodwork to testify against him. They all lied.
>The Boston Globe
>January 27, 2005
>
>http://www.jeffjacoby.com/4996/a-factory-for-death
>
>BY THE TIME the Soviet Army reached Auschwitz on Jan. 27, 1945 -- 60
>years ago this week -- my father was no longer there. Ten days
>earlier, the Nazis had evacuated about 67,000 of the death camp's
>inmates, dispatching them on brutal forced marches to the west. My
>father, then 19, was in a group sent into Austria. He ended up at the
>concentration camp in Ebensee, near Mauthausen. Liberation there
>didn't come until May 9, with the arrival of US soldiers from the 80th
Why move a bunch of kikes around so much if the plan was to kill
them?
>Infantry Division.
>
>My father had entered Auschwitz the previous spring, together with his
>parents, his two brothers, and two of his three sisters. They, too,
>were gone by the time the camp was liberated. Unlike my father, they
>didn't leave on foot. They "left" through the chimney. For the
>overwhelming majority of the more than 1.1 million Jews who were sent
>to Auschwitz, there was no other exit.
Auschwitz was occupied by the Communists on January 27,1945. They
made reports about what they claim to have found. These initial
reports had not yet been adapted to allied propaganda. The reports
were published on February 1 and 2, 1945 in the Soviet propaganda
organ Pravda. Here are some things it said:
"the Germans in Auschwitz began to remove the traces of their
crimes"
"They leveled the burial grounds."
"They removed and destroyed all traces of the electric conveyer
system, where hundreds of people at one time were electrocuted."
"The stationary gas chambers in the east side of the camp were
remodeled."
"This huge death mill was equipped with the latest style of fascist
technology..."
The Communists did not even claim to have seen any killing
machines or rooms. Supposedly it was all destroyed or remodeled. They
did not allow the other allies to enter the camp, and they did not
supply any pictures or blueprints or any physical evidence.
Nevertheless, the United Press correspondent, Henry Shapiro,
obediently echoed the Soviets story.
The Soviets said that the Auschwitz complex was entirely a "murder
machine". There was not a single word to indicate that the camp was
part of the German armament industries, as we now know it clearly was.
Even if the Germans had "leveled" the alleged huge grave pits the
bodies would still be present. However anyone familiar with the matter
knows that in Auschwitz no large grave sites were ever found.
The Communists did not allow any inspection of the camps by foreign
observers for many months afterwards and their claims conflict with
what "holocaust experts" say today. Today the experts all talk of gas
chambers in Birkenau, a part of the camp far to the west. This is much
different from where the Communists initially claimed that they were.
The initial Communist reports also do not mention things that are
now claimed to have been there. There is no mention of a pile of
eyeglasses, or hair, or shoes. There is no mention of underground gas
chambers. There is no mention of "farmhouses" remodeled to be gas
chambers. There is no mention of the rivers clogged with human ashes.
Today tourists can go to Auschwitz and be shown a "gas chamber".
This is admitted by the experts not to be genuine.
Brian Harmon <har...@msg.ucsf.edu> wrote in article
<080620000051136373%har...@msg.ucsf.edu>...
"You're confusing Krema I with Kremas II-V. Krema I is a
reconstruction, this has never been a secret. Kremas II-V
are in their demolished state as they were left."
Charles Don Hall <cdhall...@erols.com> wrote in article
<8F4CB71B...@news.erols.com>...
"Certainly not! The word "fake" implies a deliberate attempt to
deceive.
"The staff of the Auschwitz museum will readily explain that the Nazis
tried to destroy the gas chambers in a futile attempt to conceal their
crimes. And they'll tell you that reconstruction was done later on. So
it
would be dishonest for me to call it a "fake". I'll cheerfully admit
that
it's a "reconstruction" if that makes you happy."
PObox say he "knows a few U.S. citizens", but calls
others "foreigners"; funny stuff maggot.
>
> >Infantry Division.
>
> >My father had entered Auschwitz the previous spring, together with his
> >parents, his two brothers, and two of his three sisters. They, too,
> >were gone by the time the camp was liberated. Unlike my father, they
> >didn't leave on foot. They "left" through the chimney. For the
> >overwhelming majority of the more than 1.1 million Jews who were sent
> >to Auschwitz, there was no other exit.
>
> Auschwitz was occupied by the Communists on January 27,1945. They
> made reports about what they claim to have found. These initial
> reports had not yet been adapted to allied propaganda.
So what happened to Jeff Jacoby's uncles and aunts?
Michael
by Theodore J. O'Keefe
Nothing has been more effective in establishing the authenticity of
the Holocaust story in the minds of Americans than the terrible scenes
US troops discovered when they entered German concentration camps at
the close of World War II.
At Dachau, Buchenwald, Dora, Mauthausen, and other work and detention
camps, horrified US infantrymen encountered heaps of dead and dying
inmates, emaciated and diseased. Survivors told them hair-raising
stories of torture and slaughter, and backed up their claims by
showing the GIs crematory ovens, alleged execution gas chambers,
supposed implements of torture, and even shrunken heads and
lampshades, gloves, and handbags purportedly made from skin flayed
from dead inmates.
US government authorities, mindful that many Americans who remembered
the atrocity stories fed them during World War I still doubted the
Allied propaganda directed against the Hitler regime, resolved to
"document" what the GIs had found in the camps. Prominent newsmen
and politicians were flown in to see the harrowing evidence, while
the US Army Signal Corps filmed and photographed the scenes for
posterity. Famous journalist Edward R. Murrow reported, in tones of
horror, but no longer of disbelief, what he had been told and shown,
and Dachau and
Buchenwald were branded on the hearts and minds of the American
populace as names of infamy unmatched in the sad and bloody history
of this planet.
For Americans, what was "discovered" at the camps -- the dead and the
diseased, the terrible stories of the inmates, all the props of
torture and terror -- became the basis not simply of a transitory
propaganda campaign but of the conviction that, yes, it was true: the
Germans did exterminate six million Jews, most of them in lethal gas
chambers.
What the GIs found was used, by way of films that were mandatory
viewing for the vanquished populace of Germany, to "re-educate" the
German people by destroying their national pride and their will to a
united, independent national state, imposing in their place
overwhelming feelings of collective guilt and political impotence.
And when the testimony, and the verdict, of the Nuremberg Tribunal
incorporated most, if not all, of the horror stories Americans were
told about
Dachau, Buchenwald, and other places captured by the US Army, the
Holocaust could pass for one of the most documented, one of the most
authenticated, one of the most proven historical episodes in the
human record.
A Different Reality
But it is known today that, very soon after the liberation of the
camps, American authorities were aware that the real story of the
camps was quite different from the one in which they were coaching
military public information officers, government spokesmen,
politicians, journalists, and other mouthpieces.
When American and British forces overran western and central Germany
in the spring of 1945, they were followed by troops charged with
discovering and securing any evidence of German war crimes.
Among them was Dr. Charles Larson, one of America's leading forensic
pathologists, who was assigned to the US Army's Judge Advocate
General's Department. As part of a US War Crimes Investigation Team,
Dr. Larson performed autopsies at Dachau and some twenty other German
camps, examining on some days more than 100 corpses. After his grim
work at Dachau, he was
questioned for three days by US Army prosecutors.
Dr. Larson's findings? In an 1980 newspaper interview he said: "What
we've heard is that six million Jews were exterminated. Part of that
is a hoax." And what part was the hoax? Dr. Larson, who told his
biographer that to his knowledge he "was the only forensic pathologist
on duty in the entire European Theater" of Allied military operations,
confirmed that "never was a case of poison gas uncovered."
Typhus, Not Poison Gas
If not by gassing, how did the unfortunate victims at Dachau,
Buchenwald and Bergen-Belsen perish? Were they tortured to death or
deliberately starved? The answers to these questions are known as
well.
As Dr. Larson and other Allied medical men discovered, the chief
cause of death at Dachau, Belsen and the other camps was disease,
above all typhus, an old and terrible scourge of mankind that until
recently flourished in places where populations were crowded together
in circumstances where public health measures were unknown or had
broken down. Such was the case in the overcrowded internment camps in
Germany at war's end, where, despite such measures as systematic
delousing, quarantine of the sick and cremation of the dead, the
virtual
collapse of Germany's food, transport, and public health systems led
to catastrophe.
Perhaps the most authoritative statement of the facts as to typhus and
mortality in the camps has been made by Dr. John E. Gordon, M.D.,
Ph.D., a professor of preventive medicine and epidemiology at the
Harvard University School of Public Health, who was with US forces in
Germany in 1945. Dr. Gordon reported in 1948 that "The outbreaks in
concentration camps and prisons made up the great bulk of typhus
infection encountered in Germany." Dr. Gordon summarized the causes
for the outbreaks as follows:
Germany in the spring months of April and May [1945] was an
astounding sight, a mixture of humanity travelling this way and that,
homeless, often hungry and carrying typhus with them ...Germany was in
chaos. The destruction of whole cities and the path left by advancing
armies produced a disruption of living conditions contributing to the
spread of the disease. Sanitation was low grade, public utilities were
seriously disrupted, food supply and food distribution was poor,
housing was inadequate and order and discipline were everywhere
lacking. Still more important, a shifting of populations was occurring
such as few countries and few times have experienced.
Dr. Gordon's findings are corroborated by Dr. Russell Barton, today a
psychiatrist of international repute, who entered Bergen-Belsen with
British forces as a young medical student in 1945. Barton, who
volunteered to care for the diseased survivors, testified under sworn
oath in a Toronto courtroom in 1985 that "Thousands of prisoners who
died at the Bergen-Belsen concentration camp during World War II
weren't deliberately starved to death but died from a rash of
diseases."
Dr. Barton further testified that on entering the camp he had credited
stories of deliberate starvation but decided such stories were untrue
after inspecting the well equipped kitchens and the meticulously
maintained ledgers, dating back to 1942, of food cooked and dispensed
each day.
Despite noisily publicized claims and widespread popular notions to
the contrary, no researcher has been able to document a German policy
of extermination through starvation in the German camps.
No 'Human Skin' Lampshades
What of the ghoulish stories of concentration camp inmates skinned for
their tattoos, flayed to make lampshades and handbags, or other
artifacts? What of the innumerable "torture racks," "meathooks,"
whipping posts, gallows, and other tools of torment and death that are
reported to have abounded at every German camp? These allegations, and
even more grotesque ones proffered by Soviet prosecutors, found their
way into the record at Nuremberg.
The lampshade and tattooed-skin charges were made against Ilse Koch,
dubbed by journalists the "Bitch of Buchenwald," who was reported to
have furnished her house with objects manufactured from the tanned
hides of luckless inmates.
But General Lucius Clay, military governor of the US zone of occupied
Germany, who reviewed her case in 1948, told his superiors in
Washington: "There is no convincing evidence that she [Ilse Koch]
selected inmates for extermination in order to secure tattooed skins
or that she possessed any articles made of human skin." In an
interview General Clay gave years later, he stated about the material
for the infamous lampshades: "Well, it turned out actually that it was
goat flesh. But
at the trial it was still human flesh. It was almost impossible for
her to have gotten a fair trial." Ilse Koch hanged herself in a German
jail in 1967.
It would be tedious to itemize and refute the thousands of bizarre
claims as to Nazi atrocities. That there were instances of German
cruelty, however, is clear from the testimony of Dr. Konrad Morgen, a
legal investigator attached to the Reich Criminal Police, whose
statements on the witness stand at Nuremberg have never been
challenged by proponents of the Jewish Holocaust story. Dr. Morgen
informed the court that he had been given full authority by Heinrich
Himmler,
commander of Hitler's SS and the dread Gestapo, to enter any German
concentration camp and investigate instances of cruelty and corruption
on the part of camp personnel. As he explained in sworn testimony at
Nuremberg, Dr. Morgen investigated 800 such cases, resulting in more
than 200 convictions. Punishments included the death penalty for the
worst offenders, including Hermann Florstedt, commandant of Lublin
(Majdanek), and Karl Koch (Ilse's husband), commandant of Buchenwald.
While German camp commandants in certain cases did inflict physical
punishment, such acts had to be approved by authorities in Berlin, and
it was required that a camp physician first certify the good health of
the prisoner to be disciplined, and then be on hand at the actual
beating. After all, throughout most of the war the camps were
important centers of industrial activity. The good health and morale
of the prisoners was critical to the German war effort, as is
evidenced in a January 1943 order issued by SS General Richard Gl�cks,
chief of the office that supervised the
concentration camps. It held the camp commanders "personally
responsible for exhausting every possibility to preserve the physical
strength of the detainees." Camp Survivors: Merely Victims?
US Army investigators, working at Buchenwald and other camps, quickly
ascertained what was common knowledge among veteran inmates: that the
worst offenders, the cruelest denizens of the camps, were not the
guards but the prisoners themselves. Common criminals of the same
stripe as those who populate US prisons today committed many
villainies, particularly when they held positions of authority, and
fanatical Communists, highly organized to combat their many
political enemies among the inmates, eliminated their foes with
Stalinist ruthlessness. Two US Army investigators at Buchenwald, Egon
W. Fleck and Edward A. Tenenbaum, carefully investigated circumstances
in the camp before its liberation. In a detailed report submitted to
their superiors, they revealed, in the words of Alfred Toombs, their
commander, who wrote a preface to the report, "how the prisoners
themselves organized a deadly terror within the Nazi terror."
Fleck and Tenenbaum described the power exercised by criminals and
Communists as follows:
The trusties, who in time became almost exclusively Communist
Germans, had the power of life and death over all other inmates. They
could sentence a man or a group to almost certain death ... The
Communist trusties were directly responsible for a large part of the
brutalities at Buchenwald.
Colonel Donald B. Robinson, chief historian of the American military
government in Germany, summarized the Fleck-Tenenbaum report in an
article published in an American magazine shortly after the war.
Colonel Robinson wrote succinctly of the American investigators'
findings: "It appeared that the prisoners who agreed with the
Communists ate; those who didn't starved to death."
Additional corroboration of inmate brutality has been provided by
Ellis E. Spackman, who, as Chief of Counter-Intelligence Arrests and
Detentions for the US Seventh Army, was involved in the liberation of
Dachau. Spackman, later a professor of history at San Bernardino
Valley College in California, wrote in 1966 that at Dachau "the
prisoners were the actual instruments that inflicted the barbarities
on their fellow prisoners."
'Gas Chambers'
In December 1944 US Army officers Colonel Paul Kirk and Lt. Colonel
Edward J. Gully inspected the German concentration camp at
Struthof-Natzweiler in Alsace. They submitted their findings to their
superiors at the headquarters of the US 6th Army Group, which
subsequently forwarded their report to the US War Crimes Division.
While, significantly, the full text of their report has never been
published, it has been revealed, by a historian supportive of
Holocaust claims, that the two investigators were careful to
characterize equipment exhibited to them by French informants as a
"so-called lethal gas chamber," and to claim it was "allegedly used as
a lethal gas chamber." (Emphasis added)
Both the careful phraseology of the Natzweiler report, and its
effective suppression, stand in stark contrast to the credulity, the
confusion, and the blaring publicity that accompanied official reports
of alleged gas chambers at Dachau. At first, a US Army photo depicting
a GI gazing at a steel door marked with a skull and crossbones and the
German words for: "Caution! Gas! Mortal danger! Don't open!," was
identified as showing the murder weapon.
Later, however, it was evidently decided that the apparatus in
question was merely a standard delousing chamber for clothing, and
another alleged gas chamber, this one cunningly disguised as a shower
room, was exhibited to American congressmen and journalists as the
site where thousands breathed their last. While there exist numerous
reports in the press as to the operation of this second "gas chamber,"
no official report by trained Army investigators has yet surfaced to
reconcile such problems as the function of the shower heads: Were they
"dummies," or did lethal cyanide gas stream through them? (Each theory
has appreciable support in journalistic and
historiographical literature.)
As with Dachau, so with Buchenwald, Bergen-Belsen, and the other camps
liberated by the Allies in western Germany. There was no end of
propaganda about "gas chambers," "gas ovens," and the like, but so far
not a single detailed description of the murder weapon and its
function, not a single report of the kind that is mandatory for the
successful prosecution of any assault or murder case in America at
that time and today, has come to light.
Furthermore, a number of Holocaust authorities have now publicly
decreed that there were no gassings, no extermination camps in Germany
after all. (We are now told that "gassing" and "extermination" camps
were located exclusively in what is now Poland, in areas captured by
the Soviet Red Army and made off-limits to western investigators.)
Dr. Martin Broszat of the Munich-based Institute for Contemporary
History, which is funded by the German government, stated
categorically in a 1960 letter to the German weekly Die Zeit: "Neither
in Dachau nor in Bergen-Belsen nor in Buchenwald were Jews or other
prisoners gassed." Professional "Nazi hunter" Simon Wiesenthal stated
in 1975 and again in 1993 that "there were no
extermination camps on German soil."
Dachau "gas chamber" No. 2, which was once presented to a stunned and
grieving world as a weapon that claimed hundreds of thousands of
lives, is now described in the brochure issued to tourists at the
modern Dachau "memorial site" in these words: "This gas chamber,
camouflaged as a shower room, was not used."
The Propaganda Intensifies
More than 50 years after American troops entered Dachau, Buchenwald
and other German camps, and trained American investigators established
the facts as to what had gone on in them, the government in
Washington, the entertainment media in Hollywood, and the print media
in New York continue to churn out millions of words and images
annually on the horrors of the camps and the infamy of the Holocaust.
Despite the fact that, with the exception of the defeated Confederacy,
no enemy of America has ever so suffered so complete and devastating
defeat as did Germany in 1945, the mass media and the politicians and
bureaucrats behave as if Hitler, his troops, and his concentration
camps continue to exist in an eternal present, and our opinion makers
continue to distort, through ignorance or malice, the facts about the
camps.
Time for the Truth
It is time that the government and the professional historians reveal
the facts about Dachau, Buchenwald and the other camps. It is time
they let the American public know how the inmates died, and how they
didn't die. It is time that the claims of mass murder by gassing are
clarified and investigated in the same manner as any other claims of
murder. It is time that the free ride certain groups have enjoyed as
the result of unchallenged Holocaust claims be terminated, just as it
is time to end the scapegoating of other groups, including Germans,
eastern Europeans, the
Roman Catholic hierarchy, and the wartime leadership of America and
Britain, either for their alleged role in the Holocaust or their
supposed failure to stop it.
Above all, it is time that the citizens of this great Republic have
the facts about the camps, facts they have a right to know, a right
that is fundamental to the exercise of their authority and their will
in the governance of their country. As citizens and as taxpayers,
Americans of all ethnic backgrounds, of all faiths, have a basic right
and an overriding interest in determining the facts of incidents that
are deemed by those in positions of power to be significant in
determining America's foreign and educational policy, as well as its
selection of past events to be memorialized in our
civic life.
Today the alleged facts of the Holocaust are at issue all over the
civilized world. The truth will be decided only by recourse to the
facts, in the public forum: not by concealing the facts, denying the
truth, stonewalling reality. The truth will out, and it is time the
government of this country, and governments and international bodies
throughout the world, make public the evidence of what actually
transpired in the German concentration camps in the years 1933-1945,
so that we may put paid to the lies, without fear or favor, and carry
out the work of reconciliation and renewal that is and must be the
granite foundation of mutual tolerance between peoples and of a peace
based on justice.
Summary
The conclusions of the early US Army investigations as to the truth
about the wartime German concentration camps have since been
corroborated by all subsequent investigators and can be summarized:
1.The harrowing scenes of dead and dying inmates were not the result
of a German policy of "extermination," but rather the result of
epidemics of typhus and other disease brought about largely by the
effects of Allied aerial attacks.
2.Stories of Nazi supercriminals and sadists who turned Jews and
others into handbags and lampshades for their private profit or
amusement were sick lies or diseased fantasies; indeed, the German
authorities punished corruption and cruelty on the part of camp
commanders and guards.
3.On the other hand, portrayals of the newly liberated inmates as
saints and martyrs of Hitlerism were quite often very far from the
truth; indeed, most of the brutalities inflicted on camp detainees
were the work of their fellow prisoners, in contravention of German
policy and German orders.
4.The alleged homicidal showers and gas chambers were used either for
bathing camp inmates or delousing their clothes; the claim that they
were used to murder Jews or other human beings is a contemptible
fabrication. Orthodox historians and professional "Nazi-hunters" have
quietly dropped claims that inmates were gassed at Dachau, Buchenwald
and other camps in Germany. They continue, however, to keep silent
regarding the lies about Dachau and Buchenwald, as well as to evade an
open discussion of the evidence for homicidal gassing at Auschwitz and
the
other camps captured by the Soviets.
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