Abrams praises investigation of Limbaugh's Dem primary 'dirty tricks' David Edwards and Nick Juliano Published: Tuesday March 25, 2008
This month's primaries in Ohio and Texas resurrected Hillary Clinton from the political graveyard for the umpteenth time this election season.
Conservative talker Rush Limbaugh is taking credit for Clinton's continued presence in the race after encouraging Republican voters to switch parties before those two big states voted March 4, and he has called on Pennsylvania GOPers to do the same before their state votes April 22. Limbaugh's listeners are worried about an election fraud investigation, which could result in criminal charges for voters in at least one Ohio county.
MSNBC host Dan Abrams says the right-wing radio host's aim is "to subvert democracy and inject dirty tricks into the Democratic nomination process."
"I've said it before, I think it's un-American to encourage people to vote for a candidate they don't want to win, in order to corrupt the process," Abrams said. "But in Ohio, it may also be illegal."
He went on to discuss a probe in Cuyahoga County, which includes Cleveland, where Board of Elections officials are launching an investigation into crossover voters to determine whether any are guilty of election fraud, a felony. Results of the investigation will be released March 31.
It's unlikely that Limbaugh single-handedly swung the results to Clinton in either state, as was his stated intention. Clinton and her Democratic rival Barack Obama split Republicans in Ohio, and Obama won Texas Republicans, according to network exit polls.
In Ohio's Cuyahoga County, which includes Cleveland, the Plain Dealer reported that a "staggering" 16,000 Republicans switched parties to vote in the March 4 Democratic primary. Some GOP voters openly acknowledged their intention to meddle with the opposing party, writing messages like "For one day only" on pledges voters are required to sign indicating they will support the party whose primary they are voting in.
As staggering as the Cuyahoga County figure seemed, exit polls suggest crossover voters may have been even more prevalent elsewhere in the state. Nearly 325,000 voters cast a ballot for either Obama or Clinton in the Cleveland area, so Republicans accounted for about 5 percent of the Democratic turnout. Statewide, Republicans made up about 9 percent of the Democratic primary electorate, according to the exit polls.
Obama has touted his support among independents and GOP voters -- so-called Obamacans -- and while some crossover voters told the PD they voted for Clinton to set up an easy target for John McCain in the fall, others said they thought Obama would be an easier opponent. Plenty of Republicans also voted Democratic out of heart-felt beliefs, to be sure, as the GOP struggles in what is expected to be a rocky election year.
In Pennsylvania, Obama's campaign was working hard to get supporters to switch their registration from independent or Republican to Democratic. He even ran a radio ad reminding those voters that Monday was the last day they could register as Democrats to vote in the April 22 primary. Meanwhile, Limbaugh also has said he has "operatives" registering Republicans as Democrats to vote for Clinton.
Between March 10 and 17, the most recent timeframe available, more than 14,000 new Democrats registered to vote in Pennsylvania and 29,000 voters switched their registration to the Democratic party, the Philadelphia Inquirer reports.
Before Pennsylvania goes to the polls, the Cleveland, Ohio-area elections board will release the results of its investigation. Some ballots containt possible evidence of voter fraud, which in Ohio is punishable by up to a year in jail and a $2,500 fine.
"I'm looking for evidence," Sandy McNair, a Democratic member of the county's elections board tells the Plain Dealer. "I'm not interested in a witch hunt. But I am interested in holding people accountable, whether they're Democrat or Republican."
This video is from MSNBC's Verdict, broadcast March 24, 2008.
"I want justice...There's an old poster out West, as I recall, that said, 'Wanted: Dead or Alive,'" - G.W. Bush, 9/17/01, UPI
"I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority." - G.W. Bush, 3/13/02
> Abrams praises investigation of Limbaugh's Dem primary 'dirty tricks' > David Edwards and Nick Juliano > Published: Tuesday March 25, 2008
> This month's primaries in Ohio and Texas resurrected Hillary Clinton > from the political graveyard for the umpteenth time this election > season.
> Conservative talker Rush Limbaugh is taking credit for Clinton's > continued presence in the race after encouraging Republican voters to > switch parties before those two big states voted March 4, and he has > called on Pennsylvania GOPers to do the same before their state votes > April 22. Limbaugh's listeners are worried about an election fraud > investigation, which could result in criminal charges for voters in at > least one Ohio county.
> MSNBC host Dan Abrams says the right-wing radio host's aim is "to > subvert democracy and inject dirty tricks into the Democratic > nomination process."
> "I've said it before, I think it's un-American to encourage people to > vote for a candidate they don't want to win, in order to corrupt the > process," Abrams said. "But in Ohio, it may also be illegal."
> He went on to discuss a probe in Cuyahoga County, which includes > Cleveland, where Board of Elections officials are launching an > investigation into crossover voters to determine whether any are > guilty of election fraud, a felony. Results of the investigation will > be released March 31.
> It's unlikely that Limbaugh single-handedly swung the results to > Clinton in either state, as was his stated intention. Clinton and her > Democratic rival Barack Obama split Republicans in Ohio, and Obama won > Texas Republicans, according to network exit polls.
> In Ohio's Cuyahoga County, which includes Cleveland, the Plain Dealer > reported that a "staggering" 16,000 Republicans switched parties to > vote in the March 4 Democratic primary. Some GOP voters openly > acknowledged their intention to meddle with the opposing party, > writing messages like "For one day only" on pledges voters are > required to sign indicating they will support the party whose primary > they are voting in.
> As staggering as the Cuyahoga County figure seemed, exit polls suggest > crossover voters may have been even more prevalent elsewhere in the > state. Nearly 325,000 voters cast a ballot for either Obama or Clinton > in the Cleveland area, so Republicans accounted for about 5 percent of > the Democratic turnout. Statewide, Republicans made up about 9 percent > of the Democratic primary electorate, according to the exit polls.
> Obama has touted his support among independents and GOP voters -- > so-called Obamacans -- and while some crossover voters told the PD > they voted for Clinton to set up an easy target for John McCain in the > fall, others said they thought Obama would be an easier opponent. > Plenty of Republicans also voted Democratic out of heart-felt beliefs, > to be sure, as the GOP struggles in what is expected to be a rocky > election year.
> In Pennsylvania, Obama's campaign was working hard to get supporters > to switch their registration from independent or Republican to > Democratic. He even ran a radio ad reminding those voters that Monday > was the last day they could register as Democrats to vote in the April > 22 primary. Meanwhile, Limbaugh also has said he has "operatives" > registering Republicans as Democrats to vote for Clinton.
> Between March 10 and 17, the most recent timeframe available, more > than 14,000 new Democrats registered to vote in Pennsylvania and > 29,000 voters switched their registration to the Democratic party, the > Philadelphia Inquirer reports.
> Before Pennsylvania goes to the polls, the Cleveland, Ohio-area > elections board will release the results of its investigation. Some > ballots containt possible evidence of voter fraud, which in Ohio is > punishable by up to a year in jail and a $2,500 fine.
> "I'm looking for evidence," Sandy McNair, a Democratic member of the > county's elections board tells the Plain Dealer. "I'm not interested > in a witch hunt. But I am interested in holding people accountable, > whether they're Democrat or Republican."
> This video is from MSNBC's Verdict, broadcast March 24, 2008.
> "I want justice...There's an old poster out West, as I recall, that > said, 'Wanted: Dead or Alive,'" > - G.W. Bush, 9/17/01, UPI
> "I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. > It's not that important. It's not our priority." > - G.W. Bush, 3/13/02
>> Abrams praises investigation of Limbaugh's Dem primary 'dirty tricks' >> David Edwards and Nick Juliano >> Published: Tuesday March 25, 2008
>> This month's primaries in Ohio and Texas resurrected Hillary Clinton >> from the political graveyard for the umpteenth time this election >> season.
>> Conservative talker Rush Limbaugh is taking credit for Clinton's >> continued presence in the race after encouraging Republican voters to >> switch parties before those two big states voted March 4, and he has >> called on Pennsylvania GOPers to do the same before their state votes >> April 22. Limbaugh's listeners are worried about an election fraud >> investigation, which could result in criminal charges for voters in at >> least one Ohio county.
>> MSNBC host Dan Abrams says the right-wing radio host's aim is "to >> subvert democracy and inject dirty tricks into the Democratic >> nomination process."
>> "I've said it before, I think it's un-American to encourage people to >> vote for a candidate they don't want to win, in order to corrupt the >> process," Abrams said. "But in Ohio, it may also be illegal."
>> He went on to discuss a probe in Cuyahoga County, which includes >> Cleveland, where Board of Elections officials are launching an >> investigation into crossover voters to determine whether any are >> guilty of election fraud, a felony. Results of the investigation will >> be released March 31.
>> It's unlikely that Limbaugh single-handedly swung the results to >> Clinton in either state, as was his stated intention. Clinton and her >> Democratic rival Barack Obama split Republicans in Ohio, and Obama won >> Texas Republicans, according to network exit polls.
>> In Ohio's Cuyahoga County, which includes Cleveland, the Plain Dealer >> reported that a "staggering" 16,000 Republicans switched parties to >> vote in the March 4 Democratic primary. Some GOP voters openly >> acknowledged their intention to meddle with the opposing party, >> writing messages like "For one day only" on pledges voters are >> required to sign indicating they will support the party whose primary >> they are voting in.
>> As staggering as the Cuyahoga County figure seemed, exit polls suggest >> crossover voters may have been even more prevalent elsewhere in the >> state. Nearly 325,000 voters cast a ballot for either Obama or Clinton >> in the Cleveland area, so Republicans accounted for about 5 percent of >> the Democratic turnout. Statewide, Republicans made up about 9 percent >> of the Democratic primary electorate, according to the exit polls.
>> Obama has touted his support among independents and GOP voters -- >> so-called Obamacans -- and while some crossover voters told the PD >> they voted for Clinton to set up an easy target for John McCain in the >> fall, others said they thought Obama would be an easier opponent. >> Plenty of Republicans also voted Democratic out of heart-felt beliefs, >> to be sure, as the GOP struggles in what is expected to be a rocky >> election year.
>> In Pennsylvania, Obama's campaign was working hard to get supporters >> to switch their registration from independent or Republican to >> Democratic. He even ran a radio ad reminding those voters that Monday >> was the last day they could register as Democrats to vote in the April >> 22 primary. Meanwhile, Limbaugh also has said he has "operatives" >> registering Republicans as Democrats to vote for Clinton.
>> Between March 10 and 17, the most recent timeframe available, more >> than 14,000 new Democrats registered to vote in Pennsylvania and >> 29,000 voters switched their registration to the Democratic party, the >> Philadelphia Inquirer reports.
>> Before Pennsylvania goes to the polls, the Cleveland, Ohio-area >> elections board will release the results of its investigation. Some >> ballots containt possible evidence of voter fraud, which in Ohio is >> punishable by up to a year in jail and a $2,500 fine.
>> "I'm looking for evidence," Sandy McNair, a Democratic member of the >> county's elections board tells the Plain Dealer. "I'm not interested >> in a witch hunt. But I am interested in holding people accountable, >> whether they're Democrat or Republican."
>> This video is from MSNBC's Verdict, broadcast March 24, 2008.
>> "I want justice...There's an old poster out West, as I recall, that >> said, 'Wanted: Dead or Alive,'" >> - G.W. Bush, 9/17/01, UPI
>> "I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. >> It's not that important. It's not our priority." >> - G.W. Bush, 3/13/02
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>>> Abrams praises investigation of Limbaugh's Dem primary 'dirty tricks' >>> This month's primaries in Ohio and Texas resurrected Hillary Clinton >>> from the political graveyard for the umpteenth time this election >>> season.
>>> Conservative talker Rush Limbaugh is taking credit for Clinton's >>> continued presence in the race after encouraging Republican voters to >>> switch parties before those two big states voted March 4, and he has >>> called on Pennsylvania GOPers to do the same before their state votes >>> April 22. Limbaugh's listeners are worried about an election fraud >>> investigation, which could result in criminal charges for voters in at >>> least one Ohio county.
>>> MSNBC host Dan Abrams says the right-wing radio host's aim is "to >>> subvert democracy and inject dirty tricks into the Democratic >>> nomination process."
>>> "I've said it before, I think it's un-American to encourage people to >>> vote for a candidate they don't want to win, in order to corrupt the >>> process," Abrams said. "But in Ohio, it may also be illegal."
C'mon asshole make our day. LOL
>>The loonie libs would just luv to get Rush on this, but it ain't gonna >>happen.
>Agreed. As long as Putsch is in office, right wingers are above the >law.
It's an OHIO law that they're investigating dumbass, not federal. Your paranoid hatred of Bush is showing.
Go right ahead and try to ignore the First Amendment and attack Rush. And go right ahead and try to prosecute Ohio voters for voting as they see fit.
You're only driving people away from the Dem party and increasing Rush's audience.
>>> Abrams praises investigation of Limbaugh's Dem primary 'dirty tricks' >>> David Edwards and Nick Juliano >>> Published: Tuesday March 25, 2008
>>> This month's primaries in Ohio and Texas resurrected Hillary Clinton >>> from the political graveyard for the umpteenth time this election >>> season.
>>> Conservative talker Rush Limbaugh is taking credit for Clinton's >>> continued presence in the race after encouraging Republican voters to >>> switch parties before those two big states voted March 4, and he has >>> called on Pennsylvania GOPers to do the same before their state votes >>> April 22. Limbaugh's listeners are worried about an election fraud >>> investigation, which could result in criminal charges for voters in at >>> least one Ohio county.
>>> MSNBC host Dan Abrams says the right-wing radio host's aim is "to >>> subvert democracy and inject dirty tricks into the Democratic >>> nomination process."
>>> "I've said it before, I think it's un-American to encourage people to >>> vote for a candidate they don't want to win, in order to corrupt the >>> process," Abrams said. "But in Ohio, it may also be illegal."
>>> He went on to discuss a probe in Cuyahoga County, which includes >>> Cleveland, where Board of Elections officials are launching an >>> investigation into crossover voters to determine whether any are >>> guilty of election fraud, a felony. Results of the investigation will >>> be released March 31.
>>> It's unlikely that Limbaugh single-handedly swung the results to >>> Clinton in either state, as was his stated intention. Clinton and her >>> Democratic rival Barack Obama split Republicans in Ohio, and Obama won >>> Texas Republicans, according to network exit polls.
>>> In Ohio's Cuyahoga County, which includes Cleveland, the Plain Dealer >>> reported that a "staggering" 16,000 Republicans switched parties to >>> vote in the March 4 Democratic primary. Some GOP voters openly >>> acknowledged their intention to meddle with the opposing party, >>> writing messages like "For one day only" on pledges voters are >>> required to sign indicating they will support the party whose primary >>> they are voting in.
>>> As staggering as the Cuyahoga County figure seemed, exit polls suggest >>> crossover voters may have been even more prevalent elsewhere in the >>> state. Nearly 325,000 voters cast a ballot for either Obama or Clinton >>> in the Cleveland area, so Republicans accounted for about 5 percent of >>> the Democratic turnout. Statewide, Republicans made up about 9 percent >>> of the Democratic primary electorate, according to the exit polls.
>>> Obama has touted his support among independents and GOP voters -- >>> so-called Obamacans -- and while some crossover voters told the PD >>> they voted for Clinton to set up an easy target for John McCain in the >>> fall, others said they thought Obama would be an easier opponent. >>> Plenty of Republicans also voted Democratic out of heart-felt beliefs, >>> to be sure, as the GOP struggles in what is expected to be a rocky >>> election year.
>>> In Pennsylvania, Obama's campaign was working hard to get supporters >>> to switch their registration from independent or Republican to >>> Democratic. He even ran a radio ad reminding those voters that Monday >>> was the last day they could register as Democrats to vote in the April >>> 22 primary. Meanwhile, Limbaugh also has said he has "operatives" >>> registering Republicans as Democrats to vote for Clinton.
>>> Between March 10 and 17, the most recent timeframe available, more >>> than 14,000 new Democrats registered to vote in Pennsylvania and >>> 29,000 voters switched their registration to the Democratic party, the >>> Philadelphia Inquirer reports.
>>> Before Pennsylvania goes to the polls, the Cleveland, Ohio-area >>> elections board will release the results of its investigation. Some >>> ballots containt possible evidence of voter fraud, which in Ohio is >>> punishable by up to a year in jail and a $2,500 fine.
>>> "I'm looking for evidence," Sandy McNair, a Democratic member of the >>> county's elections board tells the Plain Dealer. "I'm not interested >>> in a witch hunt. But I am interested in holding people accountable, >>> whether they're Democrat or Republican."
>>> This video is from MSNBC's Verdict, broadcast March 24, 2008.
>>> "I want justice...There's an old poster out West, as I recall, that >>> said, 'Wanted: Dead or Alive,'" >>> - G.W. Bush, 9/17/01, UPI
>>> "I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. >>> It's not that important. It's not our priority." >>> - G.W. Bush, 3/13/02
"Of course, between commuting an hour each way to and from the Capitol every day, and trying to keep up with my studies in high school, and play JV football (I was "too skinny" for varsity, according to my moronic coach), and a few other extra curricular activities, I wouldn't have had much time for that, anyway. Especially after I blew out my knee in the fourth game of the season... damn... "
--Milt Shook, apparently unaware that congressional pages attend school mornings and evenings at the Capital so they can attend sessions of Congress.
> >>> Abrams praises investigation of Limbaugh's Dem primary 'dirty tricks' > >>> David Edwards and Nick Juliano > >>> Published: Tuesday March 25, 2008
> >>> This month's primaries in Ohio and Texas resurrected Hillary Clinton > >>> from the political graveyard for the umpteenth time this election > >>> season.
> >>> Conservative talker Rush Limbaugh is taking credit for Clinton's > >>> continued presence in the race after encouraging Republican voters to > >>> switch parties before those two big states voted March 4, and he has > >>> called on Pennsylvania GOPers to do the same before their state votes > >>> April 22. Limbaugh's listeners are worried about an election fraud > >>> investigation, which could result in criminal charges for voters in at > >>> least one Ohio county.
> >>> MSNBC host Dan Abrams says the right-wing radio host's aim is "to > >>> subvert democracy and inject dirty tricks into the Democratic > >>> nomination process."
> >>> "I've said it before, I think it's un-American to encourage people to > >>> vote for a candidate they don't want to win, in order to corrupt the > >>> process," Abrams said. "But in Ohio, it may also be illegal."
> >>> He went on to discuss a probe in Cuyahoga County, which includes > >>> Cleveland, where Board of Elections officials are launching an > >>> investigation into crossover voters to determine whether any are > >>> guilty of election fraud, a felony. Results of the investigation will > >>> be released March 31.
> >>> It's unlikely that Limbaugh single-handedly swung the results to > >>> Clinton in either state, as was his stated intention. Clinton and her > >>> Democratic rival Barack Obama split Republicans in Ohio, and Obama won > >>> Texas Republicans, according to network exit polls.
> >>> In Ohio's Cuyahoga County, which includes Cleveland, the Plain Dealer > >>> reported that a "staggering" 16,000 Republicans switched parties to > >>> vote in the March 4 Democratic primary. Some GOP voters openly > >>> acknowledged their intention to meddle with the opposing party, > >>> writing messages like "For one day only" on pledges voters are > >>> required to sign indicating they will support the party whose primary > >>> they are voting in.
> >>> As staggering as the Cuyahoga County figure seemed, exit polls suggest > >>> crossover voters may have been even more prevalent elsewhere in the > >>> state. Nearly 325,000 voters cast a ballot for either Obama or Clinton > >>> in the Cleveland area, so Republicans accounted for about 5 percent of > >>> the Democratic turnout. Statewide, Republicans made up about 9 percent > >>> of the Democratic primary electorate, according to the exit polls.
> >>> Obama has touted his support among independents and GOP voters -- > >>> so-called Obamacans -- and while some crossover voters told the PD > >>> they voted for Clinton to set up an easy target for John McCain in the > >>> fall, others said they thought Obama would be an easier opponent. > >>> Plenty of Republicans also voted Democratic out of heart-felt beliefs, > >>> to be sure, as the GOP struggles in what is expected to be a rocky > >>> election year.
> >>> In Pennsylvania, Obama's campaign was working hard to get supporters > >>> to switch their registration from independent or Republican to > >>> Democratic. He even ran a radio ad reminding those voters that Monday > >>> was the last day they could register as Democrats to vote in the April > >>> 22 primary. Meanwhile, Limbaugh also has said he has "operatives" > >>> registering Republicans as Democrats to vote for Clinton.
> >>> Between March 10 and 17, the most recent timeframe available, more > >>> than 14,000 new Democrats registered to vote in Pennsylvania and > >>> 29,000 voters switched their registration to the Democratic party, the > >>> Philadelphia Inquirer reports.
> >>> Before Pennsylvania goes to the polls, the Cleveland, Ohio-area > >>> elections board will release the results of its investigation. Some > >>> ballots containt possible evidence of voter fraud, which in Ohio is > >>> punishable by up to a year in jail and a $2,500 fine.
> >>> "I'm looking for evidence," Sandy McNair, a Democratic member of the > >>> county's elections board tells the Plain Dealer. "I'm not interested > >>> in a witch hunt. But I am interested in holding people accountable, > >>> whether they're Democrat or Republican."
> >>> This video is from MSNBC's Verdict, broadcast March 24, 2008.
> >>> "I want justice...There's an old poster out West, as I recall, that > >>> said, 'Wanted: Dead or Alive,'" > >>> - G.W. Bush, 9/17/01, UPI
> >>> "I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. > >>> It's not that important. It's not our priority." > >>> - G.W. Bush, 3/13/02
> >> Abrams praises investigation of Limbaugh's Dem primary 'dirty tricks' > >> David Edwards and Nick Juliano > >> Published: Tuesday March 25, 2008
> >> This month's primaries in Ohio and Texas resurrected Hillary Clinton > >> from the political graveyard for the umpteenth time this election > >> season.
> >> Conservative talker Rush Limbaugh is taking credit for Clinton's > >> continued presence in the race after encouraging Republican voters to > >> switch parties before those two big states voted March 4, and he has > >> called on Pennsylvania GOPers to do the same before their state votes > >> April 22. Limbaugh's listeners are worried about an election fraud > >> investigation, which could result in criminal charges for voters in at > >> least one Ohio county.
> >> MSNBC host Dan Abrams says the right-wing radio host's aim is "to > >> subvert democracy and inject dirty tricks into the Democratic > >> nomination process."
> >> "I've said it before, I think it's un-American to encourage people to > >> vote for a candidate they don't want to win, in order to corrupt the > >> process," Abrams said. "But in Ohio, it may also be illegal."
> >> He went on to discuss a probe in Cuyahoga County, which includes > >> Cleveland, where Board of Elections officials are launching an > >> investigation into crossover voters to determine whether any are > >> guilty of election fraud, a felony. Results of the investigation will > >> be released March 31.
> >> It's unlikely that Limbaugh single-handedly swung the results to > >> Clinton in either state, as was his stated intention. Clinton and her > >> Democratic rival Barack Obama split Republicans in Ohio, and Obama won > >> Texas Republicans, according to network exit polls.
> >> In Ohio's Cuyahoga County, which includes Cleveland, the Plain Dealer > >> reported that a "staggering" 16,000 Republicans switched parties to > >> vote in the March 4 Democratic primary. Some GOP voters openly > >> acknowledged their intention to meddle with the opposing party, > >> writing messages like "For one day only" on pledges voters are > >> required to sign indicating they will support the party whose primary > >> they are voting in.
> >> As staggering as the Cuyahoga County figure seemed, exit polls suggest > >> crossover voters may have been even more prevalent elsewhere in the > >> state. Nearly 325,000 voters cast a ballot for either Obama or Clinton > >> in the Cleveland area, so Republicans accounted for about 5 percent of > >> the Democratic turnout. Statewide, Republicans made up about 9 percent > >> of the Democratic primary electorate, according to the exit polls.
> >> Obama has touted his support among independents and GOP voters -- > >> so-called Obamacans -- and while some crossover voters told the PD > >> they voted for Clinton to set up an easy target for John McCain in the > >> fall, others said they thought Obama would be an easier opponent. > >> Plenty of Republicans also voted Democratic out of heart-felt beliefs, > >> to be sure, as the GOP struggles in what is expected to be a rocky > >> election year.
> >> In Pennsylvania, Obama's campaign was working hard to get supporters > >> to switch their registration from independent or Republican to > >> Democratic. He even ran a radio ad reminding those voters that Monday > >> was the last day they could register as Democrats to vote in the April > >> 22 primary. Meanwhile, Limbaugh also has said he has "operatives" > >> registering Republicans as Democrats to vote for Clinton.
> >> Between March 10 and 17, the most recent timeframe available, more > >> than 14,000 new Democrats registered to vote in Pennsylvania and > >> 29,000 voters switched their registration to the Democratic party, the > >> Philadelphia Inquirer reports.
> >> Before Pennsylvania goes to the polls, the Cleveland, Ohio-area > >> elections board will release the results of its investigation. Some > >> ballots containt possible evidence of voter fraud, which in Ohio is > >> punishable by up to a year in jail and a $2,500 fine.
> >> "I'm looking for evidence," Sandy McNair, a Democratic member of the > >> county's elections board tells the Plain Dealer. "I'm not interested > >> in a witch hunt. But I am interested in holding people accountable, > >> whether they're Democrat or Republican."
> >> This video is from MSNBC's Verdict, broadcast March 24, 2008.
> >> "I want justice...There's an old poster out West, as I recall, that > >> said, 'Wanted: Dead or Alive,'" > >> - G.W. Bush, 9/17/01, UPI
> >> "I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. > >> It's not that important. It's not our priority." > >> - G.W. Bush, 3/13/02
> >The loonie libs would just luv to get Rush on this, but it ain't gonna > >happen.
> Agreed. As long as Putsch is in office, right wingers are above the > law.
Oh, I don't know about this one. A radio host tells his minions to go out and break the law, some of them go out and break the law, and it's the radio host's fault?
Far be it from me to defend Limbaugh, but for Chrissakes, this is insane. I just don't see how he's responsibility for the stupidity of the idiots who listen to him and do what he says. Isn't this much like those mothers who tried to sue Ozzy Osbourne because he supposedly told their kids to commit suicide? Whatever happened to individual free will. The schmucks who chose to break the law in Ohio should be prosecuted, not Limbaugh.
I'd much rather see him thrown in jail for doctor shopping, or other things he IS responsible for.
>> >>> Abrams praises investigation of Limbaugh's Dem primary 'dirty tricks' >> >>> David Edwards and Nick Juliano >> >>> Published: Tuesday March 25, 2008
>> >>> This month's primaries in Ohio and Texas resurrected Hillary Clinton >> >>> from the political graveyard for the umpteenth time this election >> >>> season.
>> >>> Conservative talker Rush Limbaugh is taking credit for Clinton's >> >>> continued presence in the race after encouraging Republican voters to >> >>> switch parties before those two big states voted March 4, and he has >> >>> called on Pennsylvania GOPers to do the same before their state votes >> >>> April 22. Limbaugh's listeners are worried about an election fraud >> >>> investigation, which could result in criminal charges for voters in at >> >>> least one Ohio county.
>> >>> MSNBC host Dan Abrams says the right-wing radio host's aim is "to >> >>> subvert democracy and inject dirty tricks into the Democratic >> >>> nomination process."
>> >>> "I've said it before, I think it's un-American to encourage people to >> >>> vote for a candidate they don't want to win, in order to corrupt the >> >>> process," Abrams said. "But in Ohio, it may also be illegal."
>> >>> He went on to discuss a probe in Cuyahoga County, which includes >> >>> Cleveland, where Board of Elections officials are launching an >> >>> investigation into crossover voters to determine whether any are >> >>> guilty of election fraud, a felony. Results of the investigation will >> >>> be released March 31.
>> >>> It's unlikely that Limbaugh single-handedly swung the results to >> >>> Clinton in either state, as was his stated intention. Clinton and her >> >>> Democratic rival Barack Obama split Republicans in Ohio, and Obama won >> >>> Texas Republicans, according to network exit polls.
>> >>> In Ohio's Cuyahoga County, which includes Cleveland, the Plain Dealer >> >>> reported that a "staggering" 16,000 Republicans switched parties to >> >>> vote in the March 4 Democratic primary. Some GOP voters openly >> >>> acknowledged their intention to meddle with the opposing party, >> >>> writing messages like "For one day only" on pledges voters are >> >>> required to sign indicating they will support the party whose primary >> >>> they are voting in.
>> >>> As staggering as the Cuyahoga County figure seemed, exit polls suggest >> >>> crossover voters may have been even more prevalent elsewhere in the >> >>> state. Nearly 325,000 voters cast a ballot for either Obama or Clinton >> >>> in the Cleveland area, so Republicans accounted for about 5 percent of >> >>> the Democratic turnout. Statewide, Republicans made up about 9 percent >> >>> of the Democratic primary electorate, according to the exit polls.
>> >>> Obama has touted his support among independents and GOP voters -- >> >>> so-called Obamacans -- and while some crossover voters told the PD >> >>> they voted for Clinton to set up an easy target for John McCain in the >> >>> fall, others said they thought Obama would be an easier opponent. >> >>> Plenty of Republicans also voted Democratic out of heart-felt beliefs, >> >>> to be sure, as the GOP struggles in what is expected to be a rocky >> >>> election year.
>> >>> In Pennsylvania, Obama's campaign was working hard to get supporters >> >>> to switch their registration from independent or Republican to >> >>> Democratic. He even ran a radio ad reminding those voters that Monday >> >>> was the last day they could register as Democrats to vote in the April >> >>> 22 primary. Meanwhile, Limbaugh also has said he has "operatives" >> >>> registering Republicans as Democrats to vote for Clinton.
>> >>> Between March 10 and 17, the most recent timeframe available, more >> >>> than 14,000 new Democrats registered to vote in Pennsylvania and >> >>> 29,000 voters switched their registration to the Democratic party, the >> >>> Philadelphia Inquirer reports.
>> >>> Before Pennsylvania goes to the polls, the Cleveland, Ohio-area >> >>> elections board will release the results of its investigation. Some >> >>> ballots containt possible evidence of voter fraud, which in Ohio is >> >>> punishable by up to a year in jail and a $2,500 fine.
>> >>> "I'm looking for evidence," Sandy McNair, a Democratic member of the >> >>> county's elections board tells the Plain Dealer. "I'm not interested >> >>> in a witch hunt. But I am interested in holding people accountable, >> >>> whether they're Democrat or Republican."
>> >>> This video is from MSNBC's Verdict, broadcast March 24, 2008.
>> >>> "I want justice...There's an old poster out West, as I recall, that >> >>> said, 'Wanted: Dead or Alive,'" >> >>> - G.W. Bush, 9/17/01, UPI
>> >>> "I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. >> >>> It's not that important. It's not our priority." >> >>> - G.W. Bush, 3/13/02
"Prosperity and peace are in the balance," -- Putsch, not admitting that he's against both
Putsch: leading America to asymetric warfare since 2001
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>> >> Abrams praises investigation of Limbaugh's Dem primary 'dirty tricks' >> >> David Edwards and Nick Juliano >> >> Published: Tuesday March 25, 2008
>> >> This month's primaries in Ohio and Texas resurrected Hillary Clinton >> >> from the political graveyard for the umpteenth time this election >> >> season.
>> >> Conservative talker Rush Limbaugh is taking credit for Clinton's >> >> continued presence in the race after encouraging Republican voters to >> >> switch parties before those two big states voted March 4, and he has >> >> called on Pennsylvania GOPers to do the same before their state votes >> >> April 22. Limbaugh's listeners are worried about an election fraud >> >> investigation, which could result in criminal charges for voters in at >> >> least one Ohio county.
>> >> MSNBC host Dan Abrams says the right-wing radio host's aim is "to >> >> subvert democracy and inject dirty tricks into the Democratic >> >> nomination process."
>> >> "I've said it before, I think it's un-American to encourage people to >> >> vote for a candidate they don't want to win, in order to corrupt the >> >> process," Abrams said. "But in Ohio, it may also be illegal."
>> >> He went on to discuss a probe in Cuyahoga County, which includes >> >> Cleveland, where Board of Elections officials are launching an >> >> investigation into crossover voters to determine whether any are >> >> guilty of election fraud, a felony. Results of the investigation will >> >> be released March 31.
>> >> It's unlikely that Limbaugh single-handedly swung the results to >> >> Clinton in either state, as was his stated intention. Clinton and her >> >> Democratic rival Barack Obama split Republicans in Ohio, and Obama won >> >> Texas Republicans, according to network exit polls.
>> >> In Ohio's Cuyahoga County, which includes Cleveland, the Plain Dealer >> >> reported that a "staggering" 16,000 Republicans switched parties to >> >> vote in the March 4 Democratic primary. Some GOP voters openly >> >> acknowledged their intention to meddle with the opposing party, >> >> writing messages like "For one day only" on pledges voters are >> >> required to sign indicating they will support the party whose primary >> >> they are voting in.
>> >> As staggering as the Cuyahoga County figure seemed, exit polls suggest >> >> crossover voters may have been even more prevalent elsewhere in the >> >> state. Nearly 325,000 voters cast a ballot for either Obama or Clinton >> >> in the Cleveland area, so Republicans accounted for about 5 percent of >> >> the Democratic turnout. Statewide, Republicans made up about 9 percent >> >> of the Democratic primary electorate, according to the exit polls.
>> >> Obama has touted his support among independents and GOP voters -- >> >> so-called Obamacans -- and while some crossover voters told the PD >> >> they voted for Clinton to set up an easy target for John McCain in the >> >> fall, others said they thought Obama would be an easier opponent. >> >> Plenty of Republicans also voted Democratic out of heart-felt beliefs, >> >> to be sure, as the GOP struggles in what is expected to be a rocky >> >> election year.
>> >> In Pennsylvania, Obama's campaign was working hard to get supporters >> >> to switch their registration from independent or Republican to >> >> Democratic. He even ran a radio ad reminding those voters that Monday >> >> was the last day they could register as Democrats to vote in the April >> >> 22 primary. Meanwhile, Limbaugh also has said he has "operatives" >> >> registering Republicans as Democrats to vote for Clinton.
>> >> Between March 10 and 17, the most recent timeframe available, more >> >> than 14,000 new Democrats registered to vote in Pennsylvania and >> >> 29,000 voters switched their registration to the Democratic party, the >> >> Philadelphia Inquirer reports.
>> >> Before Pennsylvania goes to the polls, the Cleveland, Ohio-area >> >> elections board will release the results of its investigation. Some >> >> ballots containt possible evidence of voter fraud, which in Ohio is >> >> punishable by up to a year in jail and a $2,500 fine.
>> >> "I'm looking for evidence," Sandy McNair, a Democratic member of the >> >> county's elections board tells the Plain Dealer. "I'm not interested >> >> in a witch hunt. But I am interested in holding people accountable, >> >> whether they're Democrat or Republican."
>> >> This video is from MSNBC's Verdict, broadcast March 24, 2008.
>> >> "I want justice...There's an old poster out West, as I recall, that >> >> said, 'Wanted: Dead or Alive,'" >> >> - G.W. Bush, 9/17/01, UPI
>> >> "I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. >> >> It's not that important. It's not our priority." >> >> - G.W. Bush, 3/13/02
>> >The loonie libs would just luv to get Rush on this, but it ain't gonna >> >happen.
>> Agreed. As long as Putsch is in office, right wingers are above the >> law.
>Oh, I don't know about this one. A radio host tells his minions to go >out and break the law, some of them go out and break the law, and it's >the radio host's fault?
No, but he is complicit. There IS such a thing as conspiracy charges, you know.
>Far be it from me to defend Limbaugh, but for Chrissakes, this is >insane. I just don't see how he's responsibility for the stupidity of >the idiots who listen to him and do what he says. Isn't this much like >those mothers who tried to sue Ozzy Osbourne because he supposedly >told their kids to commit suicide? Whatever happened to individual >free will. The schmucks who chose to break the law in Ohio should be >prosecuted, not Limbaugh.
That's been a favorite defence of the GOP for years: "he wuz too stoop'd to know he was doin' anything wrong."
>I'd much rather see him thrown in jail for doctor shopping, or other >things he IS responsible for.
"Prosperity and peace are in the balance," -- Putsch, not admitting that he's against both
Putsch: leading America to asymetric warfare since 2001
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> Abrams praises investigation of Limbaugh's Dem primary 'dirty tricks'
. Good.
Republicans are sick and tired of Democrat "mean" tactics, and are fighting back in kind. And now you want to arrest Rush Limbaugh for thought crime violations? You want to arrest citizens for casting votes for the "wrong" reason?
BTW, just how has your heavy handed thug tactics worked so far to dismantle the Republican Party?
>>> >>> Abrams praises investigation of Limbaugh's Dem primary 'dirty tricks' >>> >>> David Edwards and Nick Juliano >>> >>> Published: Tuesday March 25, 2008
>>> >>> This month's primaries in Ohio and Texas resurrected Hillary Clinton >>> >>> from the political graveyard for the umpteenth time this election >>> >>> season.
>>> >>> Conservative talker Rush Limbaugh is taking credit for Clinton's >>> >>> continued presence in the race after encouraging Republican voters to >>> >>> switch parties before those two big states voted March 4, and he has >>> >>> called on Pennsylvania GOPers to do the same before their state votes >>> >>> April 22. Limbaugh's listeners are worried about an election fraud >>> >>> investigation, which could result in criminal charges for voters in at >>> >>> least one Ohio county.
>>> >>> MSNBC host Dan Abrams says the right-wing radio host's aim is "to >>> >>> subvert democracy and inject dirty tricks into the Democratic >>> >>> nomination process."
>>> >>> "I've said it before, I think it's un-American to encourage people to >>> >>> vote for a candidate they don't want to win, in order to corrupt the >>> >>> process," Abrams said. "But in Ohio, it may also be illegal."
>>> >>> He went on to discuss a probe in Cuyahoga County, which includes >>> >>> Cleveland, where Board of Elections officials are launching an >>> >>> investigation into crossover voters to determine whether any are >>> >>> guilty of election fraud, a felony. Results of the investigation will >>> >>> be released March 31.
>>> >>> It's unlikely that Limbaugh single-handedly swung the results to >>> >>> Clinton in either state, as was his stated intention. Clinton and her >>> >>> Democratic rival Barack Obama split Republicans in Ohio, and Obama won >>> >>> Texas Republicans, according to network exit polls.
>>> >>> In Ohio's Cuyahoga County, which includes Cleveland, the Plain Dealer >>> >>> reported that a "staggering" 16,000 Republicans switched parties to >>> >>> vote in the March 4 Democratic primary. Some GOP voters openly >>> >>> acknowledged their intention to meddle with the opposing party, >>> >>> writing messages like "For one day only" on pledges voters are >>> >>> required to sign indicating they will support the party whose primary >>> >>> they are voting in.
>>> >>> As staggering as the Cuyahoga County figure seemed, exit polls suggest >>> >>> crossover voters may have been even more prevalent elsewhere in the >>> >>> state. Nearly 325,000 voters cast a ballot for either Obama or Clinton >>> >>> in the Cleveland area, so Republicans accounted for about 5 percent of >>> >>> the Democratic turnout. Statewide, Republicans made up about 9 percent >>> >>> of the Democratic primary electorate, according to the exit polls.
>>> >>> Obama has touted his support among independents and GOP voters -- >>> >>> so-called Obamacans -- and while some crossover voters told the PD >>> >>> they voted for Clinton to set up an easy target for John McCain in the >>> >>> fall, others said they thought Obama would be an easier opponent. >>> >>> Plenty of Republicans also voted Democratic out of heart-felt beliefs, >>> >>> to be sure, as the GOP struggles in what is expected to be a rocky >>> >>> election year.
>>> >>> In Pennsylvania, Obama's campaign was working hard to get supporters >>> >>> to switch their registration from independent or Republican to >>> >>> Democratic. He even ran a radio ad reminding those voters that Monday >>> >>> was the last day they could register as Democrats to vote in the April >>> >>> 22 primary. Meanwhile, Limbaugh also has said he has "operatives" >>> >>> registering Republicans as Democrats to vote for Clinton.
>>> >>> Between March 10 and 17, the most recent timeframe available, more >>> >>> than 14,000 new Democrats registered to vote in Pennsylvania and >>> >>> 29,000 voters switched their registration to the Democratic party, the >>> >>> Philadelphia Inquirer reports.
>>> >>> Before Pennsylvania goes to the polls, the Cleveland, Ohio-area >>> >>> elections board will release the results of its investigation. Some >>> >>> ballots containt possible evidence of voter fraud, which in Ohio is >>> >>> punishable by up to a year in jail and a $2,500 fine.
>>> >>> "I'm looking for evidence," Sandy McNair, a Democratic member of the >>> >>> county's elections board tells the Plain Dealer. "I'm not interested >>> >>> in a witch hunt. But I am interested in holding people accountable, >>> >>> whether they're Democrat or Republican."
>>> >>> This video is from MSNBC's Verdict, broadcast March 24, 2008.
>>> >>> "I want justice...There's an old poster out West, as I recall, that >>> >>> said, 'Wanted: Dead or Alive,'" >>> >>> - G.W. Bush, 9/17/01, UPI
>>> >>> "I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. >>> >>> It's not that important. It's not our priority." >>> >>> - G.W. Bush, 3/13/02
>>> >> Abrams praises investigation of Limbaugh's Dem primary 'dirty tricks' >>> >> David Edwards and Nick Juliano >>> >> Published: Tuesday March 25, 2008
>>> >> This month's primaries in Ohio and Texas resurrected Hillary Clinton >>> >> from the political graveyard for the umpteenth time this election >>> >> season.
>>> >> Conservative talker Rush Limbaugh is taking credit for Clinton's >>> >> continued presence in the race after encouraging Republican voters to >>> >> switch parties before those two big states voted March 4, and he has >>> >> called on Pennsylvania GOPers to do the same before their state votes >>> >> April 22. Limbaugh's listeners are worried about an election fraud >>> >> investigation, which could result in criminal charges for voters in at >>> >> least one Ohio county.
>>> >> MSNBC host Dan Abrams says the right-wing radio host's aim is "to >>> >> subvert democracy and inject dirty tricks into the Democratic >>> >> nomination process."
>>> >> "I've said it before, I think it's un-American to encourage people to >>> >> vote for a candidate they don't want to win, in order to corrupt the >>> >> process," Abrams said. "But in Ohio, it may also be illegal."
>>> >> He went on to discuss a probe in Cuyahoga County, which includes >>> >> Cleveland, where Board of Elections officials are launching an >>> >> investigation into crossover voters to determine whether any are >>> >> guilty of election fraud, a felony. Results of the investigation will >>> >> be released March 31.
>>> >> It's unlikely that Limbaugh single-handedly swung the results to >>> >> Clinton in either state, as was his stated intention. Clinton and her >>> >> Democratic rival Barack Obama split Republicans in Ohio, and Obama won >>> >> Texas Republicans, according to network exit polls.
>>> >> In Ohio's Cuyahoga County, which includes Cleveland, the Plain Dealer >>> >> reported that a "staggering" 16,000 Republicans switched parties to >>> >> vote in the March 4 Democratic primary. Some GOP voters openly >>> >> acknowledged their intention to meddle with the opposing party, >>> >> writing messages like "For one day only" on pledges voters are >>> >> required to sign indicating they will support the party whose primary >>> >> they are voting in.
>>> >> As staggering as the Cuyahoga County figure seemed, exit polls suggest >>> >> crossover voters may have been even more prevalent elsewhere in the >>> >> state. Nearly 325,000 voters cast a ballot for either Obama or Clinton >>> >> in the Cleveland area, so Republicans accounted for about 5 percent of >>> >> the Democratic turnout. Statewide, Republicans made up about 9 percent >>> >> of the Democratic primary electorate, according to the exit polls.
>>> >> Obama has touted his support among independents and GOP voters -- >>> >> so-called Obamacans -- and while some crossover voters told the PD >>> >> they voted for Clinton to set up an easy target for John McCain in the >>> >> fall, others said they thought Obama would be an easier opponent. >>> >> Plenty of Republicans also voted Democratic out of heart-felt beliefs, >>> >> to be sure, as the GOP struggles in what is expected to be a rocky >>> >> election year.
>>> >> In Pennsylvania, Obama's campaign was working hard to get supporters >>> >> to switch their registration from independent or Republican to >>> >> Democratic. He even ran a radio ad reminding those voters that Monday >>> >> was the last day they could register as Democrats to vote in the April >>> >> 22 primary. Meanwhile, Limbaugh also has said he has "operatives" >>> >> registering Republicans as Democrats to vote for Clinton.
>>> >> Between March 10 and 17, the most recent timeframe available, more >>> >> than 14,000 new Democrats registered to vote in Pennsylvania and >>> >> 29,000 voters switched their registration to the Democratic party, the >>> >> Philadelphia Inquirer reports.
>>> >> Before Pennsylvania goes to the polls, the Cleveland, Ohio-area >>> >> elections board will release the results of its investigation. Some >>> >> ballots containt possible evidence of voter fraud, which in Ohio is >>> >> punishable by up to a year in jail and a $2,500 fine.
>>> >> "I'm looking for evidence," Sandy McNair, a Democratic member of the >>> >> county's elections board tells the Plain Dealer. "I'm not interested >>> >> in a witch hunt. But I am interested in holding people accountable, >>> >> whether they're Democrat or Republican."
>>> >> This video is from MSNBC's Verdict, broadcast March 24, 2008.
>>> >> "I want justice...There's an old poster out West, as I recall, that >>> >> said, 'Wanted: Dead or Alive,'" >>> >> - G.W. Bush, 9/17/01, UPI
>>> >> "I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. >>> >> It's not that important. It's not our priority." >>> >> - G.W. Bush, 3/13/02
>>> >The loonie libs would just luv to get Rush on this, but it ain't gonna >>> >happen.
>>> Agreed. As long as Putsch is in office, right wingers are above the >>> law.
>>Oh, I don't know about this one. A radio host tells his minions to go >>out and break the law, some of them go out and break the law, and it's >>the radio host's fault?
>No, but he is complicit. There IS such a thing as conspiracy charges, >you know.
<ROFL> There IS such a thing as Leftist desperation....
Milt Shook is too stupid to find out what a Congressional page does before claiming to have been one....
"Of course, between commuting an hour each way to and from the Capitol every day, and trying to keep up with my studies in high school, and play JV football (I was "too skinny" for varsity, according to my moronic coach), and a few other extra curricular activities, I wouldn't have had much time for that, anyway. Especially after I blew out my knee in the fourth game of the season... damn... "
--Milt Shook, apparently unaware that congressional pages attend school mornings and evenings at the Capital so they can attend sessions of Congress.
>> >> Abrams praises investigation of Limbaugh's Dem primary 'dirty tricks' >> >> David Edwards and Nick Juliano >> >> Published: Tuesday March 25, 2008
>> >> This month's primaries in Ohio and Texas resurrected Hillary Clinton >> >> from the political graveyard for the umpteenth time this election >> >> season.
>> >> Conservative talker Rush Limbaugh is taking credit for Clinton's >> >> continued presence in the race after encouraging Republican voters to >> >> switch parties before those two big states voted March 4, and he has >> >> called on Pennsylvania GOPers to do the same before their state votes >> >> April 22. Limbaugh's listeners are worried about an election fraud >> >> investigation, which could result in criminal charges for voters in at >> >> least one Ohio county.
>> >> MSNBC host Dan Abrams says the right-wing radio host's aim is "to >> >> subvert democracy and inject dirty tricks into the Democratic >> >> nomination process."
>> >> "I've said it before, I think it's un-American to encourage people to >> >> vote for a candidate they don't want to win, in order to corrupt the >> >> process," Abrams said. "But in Ohio, it may also be illegal."
>> >> He went on to discuss a probe in Cuyahoga County, which includes >> >> Cleveland, where Board of Elections officials are launching an >> >> investigation into crossover voters to determine whether any are >> >> guilty of election fraud, a felony. Results of the investigation will >> >> be released March 31.
>> >> It's unlikely that Limbaugh single-handedly swung the results to >> >> Clinton in either state, as was his stated intention. Clinton and her >> >> Democratic rival Barack Obama split Republicans in Ohio, and Obama won >> >> Texas Republicans, according to network exit polls.
>> >> In Ohio's Cuyahoga County, which includes Cleveland, the Plain Dealer >> >> reported that a "staggering" 16,000 Republicans switched parties to >> >> vote in the March 4 Democratic primary. Some GOP voters openly >> >> acknowledged their intention to meddle with the opposing party, >> >> writing messages like "For one day only" on pledges voters are >> >> required to sign indicating they will support the party whose primary >> >> they are voting in.
>> >> As staggering as the Cuyahoga County figure seemed, exit polls suggest >> >> crossover voters may have been even more prevalent elsewhere in the >> >> state. Nearly 325,000 voters cast a ballot for either Obama or Clinton >> >> in the Cleveland area, so Republicans accounted for about 5 percent of >> >> the Democratic turnout. Statewide, Republicans made up about 9 percent >> >> of the Democratic primary electorate, according to the exit polls.
>> >> Obama has touted his support among independents and GOP voters -- >> >> so-called Obamacans -- and while some crossover voters told the PD >> >> they voted for Clinton to set up an easy target for John McCain in the >> >> fall, others said they thought Obama would be an easier opponent. >> >> Plenty of Republicans also voted Democratic out of heart-felt beliefs, >> >> to be sure, as the GOP struggles in what is expected to be a rocky >> >> election year.
>> >> In Pennsylvania, Obama's campaign was working hard to get supporters >> >> to switch their registration from independent or Republican to >> >> Democratic. He even ran a radio ad reminding those voters that Monday >> >> was the last day they could register as Democrats to vote in the April >> >> 22 primary. Meanwhile, Limbaugh also has said he has "operatives" >> >> registering Republicans as Democrats to vote for Clinton.
>> >> Between March 10 and 17, the most recent timeframe available, more >> >> than 14,000 new Democrats registered to vote in Pennsylvania and >> >> 29,000 voters switched their registration to the Democratic party, the >> >> Philadelphia Inquirer reports.
>> >> Before Pennsylvania goes to the polls, the Cleveland, Ohio-area >> >> elections board will release the results of its investigation. Some >> >> ballots containt possible evidence of voter fraud, which in Ohio is >> >> punishable by up to a year in jail and a $2,500 fine.
>> >> "I'm looking for evidence," Sandy McNair, a Democratic member of the >> >> county's elections board tells the Plain Dealer. "I'm not interested >> >> in a witch hunt. But I am interested in holding people accountable, >> >> whether they're Democrat or Republican."
>> >> This video is from MSNBC's Verdict, broadcast March 24, 2008.
>> >> "I want justice...There's an old poster out West, as I recall, that >> >> said, 'Wanted: Dead or Alive,'" >> >> - G.W. Bush, 9/17/01, UPI
>> >> "I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. >> >> It's not that important. It's not our priority." >> >> - G.W. Bush, 3/13/02
>> >The loonie libs would just luv to get Rush on this, but it ain't gonna >> >happen.
>> Agreed. As long as Putsch is in office, right wingers are above the >> law.
>Oh, I don't know about this one. A radio host tells his minions to go >out and break the law, some of them go out and break the law, and it's >the radio host's fault?
Except there was no law broken nor was anyone told to break any law...
>Far be it from me to defend Limbaugh, but for Chrissakes, this is >insane. I just don't see how he's responsibility for the stupidity of >the idiots who listen to him and do what he says. Isn't this much like >those mothers who tried to sue Ozzy Osbourne because he supposedly >told their kids to commit suicide? Whatever happened to individual >free will. The schmucks who chose to break the law in Ohio should be >prosecuted, not Limbaugh.
>I'd much rather see him thrown in jail for doctor shopping, or other >things he IS responsible for.
Milt Shook is too stupid to find out what a Congressional page does before claiming to have been one....
"Of course, between commuting an hour each way to and from the Capitol every day, and trying to keep up with my studies in high school, and play JV football (I was "too skinny" for varsity, according to my moronic coach), and a few other extra curricular activities, I wouldn't have had much time for that, anyway. Especially after I blew out my knee in the fourth game of the season... damn... "
--Milt Shook, apparently unaware that congressional pages attend school mornings and evenings at the Capital so they can attend sessions of Congress.
> >> The desperate loons are claiming that it's illegal to change your > >> registration.... what a hoot > > What else do they have? . > Changing it for purposes of election fraud may well be illegal.
. Elected officials can decide what's going on inside the heads of voters? .
> Especially since some of those right wingers were stupid enough to > write in that that was their intent on the forms.
. OK, so you're lying again. Standard Jamie procedure. What actually happened is that in 99.9 percent of the cases, the loyalty oaths weren't even asked for. You guys got nuthin'!!!!!!
After years of trying to destroy Rush's life, he's just kicked the Democrat Party in the balls.
Wasn't it only a few months ago that the lefties were gloating how "irrelevant" Rush had become? That he was now a "has been"?
Tell me, how has your plan to "turn mean" been working out for you?
<bvall...@aol.com> wrote: >. >> >> The desperate loons are claiming that it's illegal to change your >> >> registration.... what a hoot >> > What else do they have? >. >> Changing it for purposes of election fraud may well be illegal. >. >Elected officials can decide what's going on inside the heads of >voters? >. >> Especially since some of those right wingers were stupid enough to >> write in that that was their intent on the forms. >. >OK, so you're lying again. Standard Jamie procedure. What actually >happened is that in 99.9 percent of the cases, the loyalty oaths >weren't even asked for. You guys got nuthin'!!!!!!
>After years of trying to destroy Rush's life, he's just kicked the >Democrat Party in the balls.
>Wasn't it only a few months ago that the lefties were gloating how >"irrelevant" Rush had become? That he was now a "has been"?
>Tell me, how has your plan to "turn mean" been working out for you?
Fatty's been calling his enemies "cunts" lately.. That's sure to bring people around to his POV...
> Far be it from me to defend Limbaugh, but for Chrissakes, this is > insane. I just don't see how he's responsibility for the stupidity of > the idiots who listen to him and do what he says. Isn't this much like > those mothers who tried to sue Ozzy Osbourne because he supposedly > told their kids to commit suicide? Whatever happened to individual > free will. The schmucks who chose to break the law in Ohio should be > prosecuted, not Limbaugh.
. The problem is that the Ohio law is insanely unconstitutional. Ohio is the only state in the Union which demands a loyalty oath, and if challenged, it wouldn't stand for ten seconds. Talk show host and constitutional scholar Hugh Hewitt has already collected a team of the top constitutional lawyers in the country to stand by Rush if Ohio is stupid enough press forward.
I must admit, it would be tons o' fun to see Democrats defending the concepts of thought crimes and loyalty oaths (not loyalty oaths to America - oh goddess, no - that would be as insane as wearing an American flag on one's lapel or walking out on a Minister while he screams "God DAMN America" - but loyalty to the Democrat Party.) Oh, here's another turd in the punchbowl in regards to your dream of shutting down free speech - in almost every case, nobody bothered to ask for the Loyalty Oath To The Democrat Party be signed.
> I'd much rather see him thrown in jail for doctor shopping, or other > things he IS responsible for.
. Please list ANYBODY who's EVER been arrested in Florida for a first offense doctor shopping pain killers after an operation after volunteering entering rehab. Here's a quick clue - it's never happened. Rush's enemies have been looking for years, and have come up empty handed. But then, what is the law for, if not to be twisted around to arrest people who criticize Democrats?
> >Oh, I don't know about this one. A radio host tells his minions to go > >out and break the law, some of them go out and break the law, and it's > >the radio host's fault? . > No, but he is complicit. There IS such a thing as conspiracy charges, > you know.
. Ooooooooo, so Rush is guilty of conspiracy to violate Ohio's Thought Control Law. After all, the Democrats want to control the MOTIVES of voters, and to make votes they don't like criminal.
> >OK, so you're lying again. Standard Jamie procedure. What actually > >happened is that in 99.9 percent of the cases, the loyalty oaths > >weren't even asked for. You guys got nuthin'!!!!!! . > >After years of trying to destroy Rush's life, he's just kicked the > >Democrat Party in the balls. . > >Wasn't it only a few months ago that the lefties were gloating how > >"irrelevant" Rush had become? That he was now a "has been"? . > >Tell me, how has your plan to "turn mean" been working out for you? . > Fatty's been calling his enemies "cunts" lately.. That's sure to > bring people around to his POV...
. I understand that when Jamie wants to masturbate, he has to roll around in flour to find the wet spot.
> >> >> Abrams praises investigation of Limbaugh's Dem primary 'dirty tricks' > >> >> David Edwards and Nick Juliano > >> >> Published: Tuesday March 25, 2008
> >> >> This month's primaries in Ohio and Texas resurrected Hillary Clinton > >> >> from the political graveyard for the umpteenth time this election > >> >> season.
> >> >> Conservative talker Rush Limbaugh is taking credit for Clinton's > >> >> continued presence in the race after encouraging Republican voters to > >> >> switch parties before those two big states voted March 4, and he has > >> >> called on Pennsylvania GOPers to do the same before their state votes > >> >> April 22. Limbaugh's listeners are worried about an election fraud > >> >> investigation, which could result in criminal charges for voters in at > >> >> least one Ohio county.
> >> >> MSNBC host Dan Abrams says the right-wing radio host's aim is "to > >> >> subvert democracy and inject dirty tricks into the Democratic > >> >> nomination process."
> >> >> "I've said it before, I think it's un-American to encourage people to > >> >> vote for a candidate they don't want to win, in order to corrupt the > >> >> process," Abrams said. "But in Ohio, it may also be illegal."
> >> >> He went on to discuss a probe in Cuyahoga County, which includes > >> >> Cleveland, where Board of Elections officials are launching an > >> >> investigation into crossover voters to determine whether any are > >> >> guilty of election fraud, a felony. Results of the investigation will > >> >> be released March 31.
> >> >> It's unlikely that Limbaugh single-handedly swung the results to > >> >> Clinton in either state, as was his stated intention. Clinton and her > >> >> Democratic rival Barack Obama split Republicans in Ohio, and Obama won > >> >> Texas Republicans, according to network exit polls.
> >> >> In Ohio's Cuyahoga County, which includes Cleveland, the Plain Dealer > >> >> reported that a "staggering" 16,000 Republicans switched parties to > >> >> vote in the March 4 Democratic primary. Some GOP voters openly > >> >> acknowledged their intention to meddle with the opposing party, > >> >> writing messages like "For one day only" on pledges voters are > >> >> required to sign indicating they will support the party whose primary > >> >> they are voting in.
> >> >> As staggering as the Cuyahoga County figure seemed, exit polls suggest > >> >> crossover voters may have been even more prevalent elsewhere in the > >> >> state. Nearly 325,000 voters cast a ballot for either Obama or Clinton > >> >> in the Cleveland area, so Republicans accounted for about 5 percent of > >> >> the Democratic turnout. Statewide, Republicans made up about 9 percent > >> >> of the Democratic primary electorate, according to the exit polls.
> >> >> Obama has touted his support among independents and GOP voters -- > >> >> so-called Obamacans -- and while some crossover voters told the PD > >> >> they voted for Clinton to set up an easy target for John McCain in the > >> >> fall, others said they thought Obama would be an easier opponent. > >> >> Plenty of Republicans also voted Democratic out of heart-felt beliefs, > >> >> to be sure, as the GOP struggles in what is expected to be a rocky > >> >> election year.
> >> >> In Pennsylvania, Obama's campaign was working hard to get supporters > >> >> to switch their registration from independent or Republican to > >> >> Democratic. He even ran a radio ad reminding those voters that Monday > >> >> was the last day they could register as Democrats to vote in the April > >> >> 22 primary. Meanwhile, Limbaugh also has said he has "operatives" > >> >> registering Republicans as Democrats to vote for Clinton.
> >> >> Between March 10 and 17, the most recent timeframe available, more > >> >> than 14,000 new Democrats registered to vote in Pennsylvania and > >> >> 29,000 voters switched their registration to the Democratic party, the > >> >> Philadelphia Inquirer reports.
> >> >> Before Pennsylvania goes to the polls, the Cleveland, Ohio-area > >> >> elections board will release the results of its investigation. Some > >> >> ballots containt possible evidence of voter fraud, which in Ohio is > >> >> punishable by up to a year in jail and a $2,500 fine.
> >> >> "I'm looking for evidence," Sandy McNair, a Democratic member of the > >> >> county's elections board tells the Plain Dealer. "I'm not interested > >> >> in a witch hunt. But I am interested in holding people accountable, > >> >> whether they're Democrat or Republican."
> >> >> This video is from MSNBC's Verdict, broadcast March 24, 2008.
> >> >> "I want justice...There's an old poster out West, as I recall, that > >> >> said, 'Wanted: Dead or Alive,'" > >> >> - G.W. Bush, 9/17/01, UPI
> >> >> "I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. > >> >> It's not that important. It's not our priority." > >> >> - G.W. Bush, 3/13/02
> >> >The loonie libs would just luv to get Rush on this, but it ain't gonna > >> >happen.
> >> Agreed. As long as Putsch is in office, right wingers are above the > >> law.
> >Oh, I don't know about this one. A radio host tells his minions to go > >out and break the law, some of them go out and break the law, and it's > >the radio host's fault?
> No, but he is complicit. There IS such a thing as conspiracy charges, > you know.
This crime involves one person. Basically, a person showed up at the polling place, that person voted when he shouldn't have, and did so of his own volition. This isn't a conspiracy; it's stupidity.
One question, though; how can you have a conspiracy when the two people supposedly involved have never had contact with each other.
> >Far be it from me to defend Limbaugh, but for Chrissakes, this is > >insane. I just don't see how he's responsibility for the stupidity of > >the idiots who listen to him and do what he says. Isn't this much like > >those mothers who tried to sue Ozzy Osbourne because he supposedly > >told their kids to commit suicide? Whatever happened to individual > >free will. The schmucks who chose to break the law in Ohio should be > >prosecuted, not Limbaugh.
> That's been a favorite defence of the GOP for years: "he wuz too > stoop'd to know he was doin' anything wrong."
Well, in this case, they're right. How far do we take this? If Thom Hartmann tells his listeners to join a protest, and they end up arrested, should we also go after Thom, because he told them to do it?
>> >> >> Abrams praises investigation of Limbaugh's Dem primary 'dirty tricks' >> >> >> David Edwards and Nick Juliano >> >> >> Published: Tuesday March 25, 2008
>> >> >> This month's primaries in Ohio and Texas resurrected Hillary Clinton >> >> >> from the political graveyard for the umpteenth time this election >> >> >> season.
>> >> >> Conservative talker Rush Limbaugh is taking credit for Clinton's >> >> >> continued presence in the race after encouraging Republican voters to >> >> >> switch parties before those two big states voted March 4, and he has >> >> >> called on Pennsylvania GOPers to do the same before their state votes >> >> >> April 22. Limbaugh's listeners are worried about an election fraud >> >> >> investigation, which could result in criminal charges for voters in at >> >> >> least one Ohio county.
>> >> >> MSNBC host Dan Abrams says the right-wing radio host's aim is "to >> >> >> subvert democracy and inject dirty tricks into the Democratic >> >> >> nomination process."
>> >> >> "I've said it before, I think it's un-American to encourage people to >> >> >> vote for a candidate they don't want to win, in order to corrupt the >> >> >> process," Abrams said. "But in Ohio, it may also be illegal."
>> >> >> He went on to discuss a probe in Cuyahoga County, which includes >> >> >> Cleveland, where Board of Elections officials are launching an >> >> >> investigation into crossover voters to determine whether any are >> >> >> guilty of election fraud, a felony. Results of the investigation will >> >> >> be released March 31.
>> >> >> It's unlikely that Limbaugh single-handedly swung the results to >> >> >> Clinton in either state, as was his stated intention. Clinton and her >> >> >> Democratic rival Barack Obama split Republicans in Ohio, and Obama won >> >> >> Texas Republicans, according to network exit polls.
>> >> >> In Ohio's Cuyahoga County, which includes Cleveland, the Plain Dealer >> >> >> reported that a "staggering" 16,000 Republicans switched parties to >> >> >> vote in the March 4 Democratic primary. Some GOP voters openly >> >> >> acknowledged their intention to meddle with the opposing party, >> >> >> writing messages like "For one day only" on pledges voters are >> >> >> required to sign indicating they will support the party whose primary >> >> >> they are voting in.
>> >> >> As staggering as the Cuyahoga County figure seemed, exit polls suggest >> >> >> crossover voters may have been even more prevalent elsewhere in the >> >> >> state. Nearly 325,000 voters cast a ballot for either Obama or Clinton >> >> >> in the Cleveland area, so Republicans accounted for about 5 percent of >> >> >> the Democratic turnout. Statewide, Republicans made up about 9 percent >> >> >> of the Democratic primary electorate, according to the exit polls.
>> >> >> Obama has touted his support among independents and GOP voters -- >> >> >> so-called Obamacans -- and while some crossover voters told the PD >> >> >> they voted for Clinton to set up an easy target for John McCain in the >> >> >> fall, others said they thought Obama would be an easier opponent. >> >> >> Plenty of Republicans also voted Democratic out of heart-felt beliefs, >> >> >> to be sure, as the GOP struggles in what is expected to be a rocky >> >> >> election year.
>> >> >> In Pennsylvania, Obama's campaign was working hard to get supporters >> >> >> to switch their registration from independent or Republican to >> >> >> Democratic. He even ran a radio ad reminding those voters that Monday >> >> >> was the last day they could register as Democrats to vote in the April >> >> >> 22 primary. Meanwhile, Limbaugh also has said he has "operatives" >> >> >> registering Republicans as Democrats to vote for Clinton.
>> >> >> Between March 10 and 17, the most recent timeframe available, more >> >> >> than 14,000 new Democrats registered to vote in Pennsylvania and >> >> >> 29,000 voters switched their registration to the Democratic party, the >> >> >> Philadelphia Inquirer reports.
>> >> >> Before Pennsylvania goes to the polls, the Cleveland, Ohio-area >> >> >> elections board will release the results of its investigation. Some >> >> >> ballots containt possible evidence of voter fraud, which in Ohio is >> >> >> punishable by up to a year in jail and a $2,500 fine.
>> >> >> "I'm looking for evidence," Sandy McNair, a Democratic member of the >> >> >> county's elections board tells the Plain Dealer. "I'm not interested >> >> >> in a witch hunt. But I am interested in holding people accountable, >> >> >> whether they're Democrat or Republican."
>> >> >> This video is from MSNBC's Verdict, broadcast March 24, 2008.
>> >> >> "I want justice...There's an old poster out West, as I recall, that >> >> >> said, 'Wanted: Dead or Alive,'" >> >> >> - G.W. Bush, 9/17/01, UPI
>> >> >> "I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. >> >> >> It's not that important. It's not our priority." >> >> >> - G.W. Bush, 3/13/02
>> >> >> Pay your taxes so the rich don't have to.
>> >> >The loonie libs would just luv to get Rush on this, but it ain't gonna >> >> >happen.
>> >> Agreed. As long as Putsch is in office, right wingers are above the >> >> law.
>> >Oh, I don't know about this one. A radio host tells his minions to go >> >out and break the law, some of them go out and break the law, and it's >> >the radio host's fault?
>> No, but he is complicit. There IS such a thing as conspiracy charges, >> you know.
>This crime involves one person. Basically, a person showed up at the >polling place, that person voted when he shouldn't have, and did so of >his own volition. This isn't a conspiracy; it's stupidity.
>One question, though; how can you have a conspiracy when the two >people supposedly involved have never had contact with each other.
Same way a hired gun for the mob who has never spoken to the head of the family can stil be part of the same conspiracy. It is enough that the mob boss makes his wishes known.
>> >Far be it from me to defend Limbaugh, but for Chrissakes, this is >> >insane. I just don't see how he's responsibility for the stupidity of >> >the idiots who listen to him and do what he says. Isn't this much like >> >those mothers who tried to sue Ozzy Osbourne because he supposedly >> >told their kids to commit suicide? Whatever happened to individual >> >free will. The schmucks who chose to break the law in Ohio should be >> >prosecuted, not Limbaugh.
>> That's been a favorite defence of the GOP for years: "he wuz too >> stoop'd to know he was doin' anything wrong."
>Well, in this case, they're right. How far do we take this? If Thom >Hartmann tells his listeners to join a protest, and they end up >arrested, should we also go after Thom, because he told them to do >it?
>> >I'd much rather see him thrown in jail for doctor shopping, or other >> >things he IS responsible for.
> >> >> >> Abrams praises investigation of Limbaugh's Dem primary 'dirty tricks' > >> >> >> David Edwards and Nick Juliano > >> >> >> Published: Tuesday March 25, 2008
> >> >> >> This month's primaries in Ohio and Texas resurrected Hillary Clinton > >> >> >> from the political graveyard for the umpteenth time this election > >> >> >> season.
> >> >> >> Conservative talker Rush Limbaugh is taking credit for Clinton's > >> >> >> continued presence in the race after encouraging Republican voters to > >> >> >> switch parties before those two big states voted March 4, and he has > >> >> >> called on Pennsylvania GOPers to do the same before their state votes > >> >> >> April 22. Limbaugh's listeners are worried about an election fraud > >> >> >> investigation, which could result in criminal charges for voters in at > >> >> >> least one Ohio county.
> >> >> >> MSNBC host Dan Abrams says the right-wing radio host's aim is "to > >> >> >> subvert democracy and inject dirty tricks into the Democratic > >> >> >> nomination process."
> >> >> >> "I've said it before, I think it's un-American to encourage people to > >> >> >> vote for a candidate they don't want to win, in order to corrupt the > >> >> >> process," Abrams said. "But in Ohio, it may also be illegal."
> >> >> >> He went on to discuss a probe in Cuyahoga County, which includes > >> >> >> Cleveland, where Board of Elections officials are launching an > >> >> >> investigation into crossover voters to determine whether any are > >> >> >> guilty of election fraud, a felony. Results of the investigation will > >> >> >> be released March 31.
> >> >> >> It's unlikely that Limbaugh single-handedly swung the results to > >> >> >> Clinton in either state, as was his stated intention. Clinton and her > >> >> >> Democratic rival Barack Obama split Republicans in Ohio, and Obama won > >> >> >> Texas Republicans, according to network exit polls.
> >> >> >> In Ohio's Cuyahoga County, which includes Cleveland, the Plain Dealer > >> >> >> reported that a "staggering" 16,000 Republicans switched parties to > >> >> >> vote in the March 4 Democratic primary. Some GOP voters openly > >> >> >> acknowledged their intention to meddle with the opposing party, > >> >> >> writing messages like "For one day only" on pledges voters are > >> >> >> required to sign indicating they will support the party whose primary > >> >> >> they are voting in.
> >> >> >> As staggering as the Cuyahoga County figure seemed, exit polls suggest > >> >> >> crossover voters may have been even more prevalent elsewhere in the > >> >> >> state. Nearly 325,000 voters cast a ballot for either Obama or Clinton > >> >> >> in the Cleveland area, so Republicans accounted for about 5 percent of > >> >> >> the Democratic turnout. Statewide, Republicans made up about 9 percent > >> >> >> of the Democratic primary electorate, according to the exit polls.
> >> >> >> Obama has touted his support among independents and GOP voters -- > >> >> >> so-called Obamacans -- and while some crossover voters told the PD > >> >> >> they voted for Clinton to set up an easy target for John McCain in the > >> >> >> fall, others said they thought Obama would be an easier opponent. > >> >> >> Plenty of Republicans also voted Democratic out of heart-felt beliefs, > >> >> >> to be sure, as the GOP struggles in what is expected to be a rocky > >> >> >> election year.
> >> >> >> In Pennsylvania, Obama's campaign was working hard to get supporters > >> >> >> to switch their registration from independent or Republican to > >> >> >> Democratic. He even ran a radio ad reminding those voters that Monday > >> >> >> was the last day they could register as Democrats to vote in the April > >> >> >> 22 primary. Meanwhile, Limbaugh also has said he has "operatives" > >> >> >> registering Republicans as Democrats to vote for Clinton.
> >> >> >> Between March 10 and 17, the most recent timeframe available, more > >> >> >> than 14,000 new Democrats registered to vote in Pennsylvania and > >> >> >> 29,000 voters switched their registration to the Democratic party, the > >> >> >> Philadelphia Inquirer reports.
> >> >> >> Before Pennsylvania goes to the polls, the Cleveland, Ohio-area > >> >> >> elections board will release the results of its investigation. Some > >> >> >> ballots containt possible evidence of voter fraud, which in Ohio is > >> >> >> punishable by up to a year in jail and a $2,500 fine.
> >> >> >> "I'm looking for evidence," Sandy McNair, a Democratic member of the > >> >> >> county's elections board tells the Plain Dealer. "I'm not interested > >> >> >> in a witch hunt. But I am interested in holding people accountable, > >> >> >> whether they're Democrat or Republican."
> >> >> >> This video is from MSNBC's Verdict, broadcast March 24, 2008.
> >> >> >> "I want justice...There's an old poster out West, as I recall, that > >> >> >> said, 'Wanted: Dead or Alive,'" > >> >> >> - G.W. Bush, 9/17/01, UPI
> >> >> >> "I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. > >> >> >> It's not that important. It's not our priority." > >> >> >> - G.W. Bush, 3/13/02
> >> >> >> Pay your taxes so the rich don't have to.
> >> >> >The loonie libs would just luv to get Rush on this, but it ain't gonna > >> >> >happen.
> >> >> Agreed. As long as Putsch is in office, right wingers are above the > >> >> law.
> >> >Oh, I don't know about this one. A radio host tells his minions to go > >> >out and break the law, some of them go out and break the law, and it's > >> >the radio host's fault?
> >> No, but he is complicit. There IS such a thing as conspiracy charges, > >> you know.
> >This crime involves one person. Basically, a person showed up at the > >polling place, that person voted when he shouldn't have, and did so of > >his own volition. This isn't a conspiracy; it's stupidity.
> >One question, though; how can you have a conspiracy when the two > >people supposedly involved have never had contact with each other.
> Same way a hired gun for the mob who has never spoken to the head of > the family can stil be part of the same conspiracy. It is enough that > the mob boss makes his wishes known.
Okay, besides the fact that we're not talking about murder here, or robbery, I would also point out that the instances of actually prosecuting a mob boss are very rare. It's because it requires there be some sort of direct access and coercion for there to be a conspiracy. If you complain to me that you're low on money, and I tell you jokingly to "rob a bank," I'm not part of the conspiracy if you decide to do so. It takes a little more than simply asking someone to do something to create a conspiracy. What sort of coercion do you think Limbaugh used?
> >> >Far be it from me to defend Limbaugh, but for Chrissakes, this is > >> >insane. I just don't see how he's responsibility for the stupidity of > >> >the idiots who listen to him and do what he says. Isn't this much like > >> >those mothers who tried to sue Ozzy Osbourne because he supposedly > >> >told their kids to commit suicide? Whatever happened to individual > >> >free will. The schmucks who chose to break the law in Ohio should be > >> >prosecuted, not Limbaugh.
> >> That's been a favorite defence of the GOP for years: "he wuz too > >> stoop'd to know he was doin' anything wrong."
> >Well, in this case, they're right. How far do we take this? If Thom > >Hartmann tells his listeners to join a protest, and they end up > >arrested, should we also go after Thom, because he told them to do > >it?
> >> >I'd much rather see him thrown in jail for doctor shopping, or other > >> >things he IS responsible for.
On Mar 26, 12:12 pm, "bvall...@aol.com" <bvall...@aol.com> wrote:
> > Far be it from me to defend Limbaugh, but for Chrissakes, this is > > insane. I just don't see how he's responsibility for the stupidity of > > the idiots who listen to him and do what he says. Isn't this much like > > those mothers who tried to sue Ozzy Osbourne because he supposedly > > told their kids to commit suicide? Whatever happened to individual > > free will. The schmucks who chose to break the law in Ohio should be > > prosecuted, not Limbaugh.
> . > The problem is that the Ohio law is insanely unconstitutional. Ohio > is the only state in the Union which demands a loyalty oath, and if > challenged, it wouldn't stand for ten seconds. Talk show host and > constitutional scholar Hugh Hewitt has already collected a team of the > top constitutional lawyers in the country to stand by Rush if Ohio is > stupid enough press forward.
They really can't be that stupid. At least I hope not. I can't stand Limbaugh, but he has the same freedom of speech as everyone else. How chilling would it be to free speech if, every time you said something controversial, you had to worry about some moron taking you too literally and breaking the law, based on what you said?
If someone who voted actually broke a valid law, that person should be prosecuted, if appropriate. But when some lamebrain hears Limbaugh say something, and does exactly that, it's not Limbaugh's fault. Limbaugh can't help that he attracts an audience of morons... well, it is, but he can't be held responsible for their moronic activities.
> I must admit, it would be tons o' fun to see Democrats defending the > concepts of thought crimes and loyalty oaths (not loyalty oaths to > America - oh goddess, no - that would be as insane as wearing an > American flag on one's lapel or walking out on a Minister while he > screams "God DAMN America" - but loyalty to the Democrat Party.) Oh, > here's another turd in the punchbowl in regards to your dream of > shutting down free speech - in almost every case, nobody bothered to > ask for the Loyalty Oath To The Democrat Party be signed.
Well, I'm actually kind of surprised to see Democrats going down this road. This is a clear free speech issue. I can't stand Limbaugh, but I also defend his right to free speech unequivocally. And blaming him because someone did something stupid on his say-so is simply ridiculous. If Randi Rhodes told her listeners to climb the White House fence, and several of them did it, you can say she's stupid for telling them that, and you might make a case for civil responsibility, if Secret Sevice killed them while doing so. But would she be a criminal? Of course not.
> > I'd much rather see him thrown in jail for doctor shopping, or other > > things he IS responsible for.
> . > Please list ANYBODY who's EVER been arrested in Florida for a first > offense doctor shopping pain killers after an operation after > volunteering entering rehab. Here's a quick clue - it's never > happened. Rush's enemies have been looking for years, and have come > up empty handed. But then, what is the law for, if not to be twisted > around to arrest people who criticize Democrats?
As usual, you missed my point. I was talking about his responsibility for actions. Immediately, you go into defensive mode...
But I will say this... doctor shopping is the rich person's equivalent of forging prescriptions, or breaking into a pharmacy and stealing meds. it just goes to show that there is a chasm between justice for the rich and justice for the poor...
>>> >>> Abrams praises investigation of Limbaugh's Dem primary 'dirty tricks' >>> >>> David Edwards and Nick Juliano >>> >>> Published: Tuesday March 25, 2008
>>> >>> This month's primaries in Ohio and Texas resurrected Hillary Clinton >>> >>> from the political graveyard for the umpteenth time this election >>> >>> season.
>>> >>> Conservative talker Rush Limbaugh is taking credit for Clinton's >>> >>> continued presence in the race after encouraging Republican voters to >>> >>> switch parties before those two big states voted March 4, and he has >>> >>> called on Pennsylvania GOPers to do the same before their state votes >>> >>> April 22. Limbaugh's listeners are worried about an election fraud >>> >>> investigation, which could result in criminal charges for voters in at >>> >>> least one Ohio county.
>>> >>> MSNBC host Dan Abrams says the right-wing radio host's aim is "to >>> >>> subvert democracy and inject dirty tricks into the Democratic >>> >>> nomination process."
>>> >>> "I've said it before, I think it's un-American to encourage people to >>> >>> vote for a candidate they don't want to win, in order to corrupt the >>> >>> process," Abrams said. "But in Ohio, it may also be illegal."
>>> >>> He went on to discuss a probe in Cuyahoga County, which includes >>> >>> Cleveland, where Board of Elections officials are launching an >>> >>> investigation into crossover voters to determine whether any are >>> >>> guilty of election fraud, a felony. Results of the investigation will >>> >>> be released March 31.
>>> >>> It's unlikely that Limbaugh single-handedly swung the results to >>> >>> Clinton in either state, as was his stated intention. Clinton and her >>> >>> Democratic rival Barack Obama split Republicans in Ohio, and Obama won >>> >>> Texas Republicans, according to network exit polls.
>>> >>> In Ohio's Cuyahoga County, which includes Cleveland, the Plain Dealer >>> >>> reported that a "staggering" 16,000 Republicans switched parties to >>> >>> vote in the March 4 Democratic primary. Some GOP voters openly >>> >>> acknowledged their intention to meddle with the opposing party, >>> >>> writing messages like "For one day only" on pledges voters are >>> >>> required to sign indicating they will support the party whose primary >>> >>> they are voting in.
>>> >>> As staggering as the Cuyahoga County figure seemed, exit polls suggest >>> >>> crossover voters may have been even more prevalent elsewhere in the >>> >>> state. Nearly 325,000 voters cast a ballot for either Obama or Clinton >>> >>> in the Cleveland area, so Republicans accounted for about 5 percent of >>> >>> the Democratic turnout. Statewide, Republicans made up about 9 percent >>> >>> of the Democratic primary electorate, according to the exit polls.
>>> >>> Obama has touted his support among independents and GOP voters -- >>> >>> so-called Obamacans -- and while some crossover voters told the PD >>> >>> they voted for Clinton to set up an easy target for John McCain in the >>> >>> fall, others said they thought Obama would be an easier opponent. >>> >>> Plenty of Republicans also voted Democratic out of heart-felt beliefs, >>> >>> to be sure, as the GOP struggles in what is expected to be a rocky >>> >>> election year.
>>> >>> In Pennsylvania, Obama's campaign was working hard to get supporters >>> >>> to switch their registration from independent or Republican to >>> >>> Democratic. He even ran a radio ad reminding those voters that Monday >>> >>> was the last day they could register as Democrats to vote in the April >>> >>> 22 primary. Meanwhile, Limbaugh also has said he has "operatives" >>> >>> registering Republicans as Democrats to vote for Clinton.
>>> >>> Between March 10 and 17, the most recent timeframe available, more >>> >>> than 14,000 new Democrats registered to vote in Pennsylvania and >>> >>> 29,000 voters switched their registration to the Democratic party, the >>> >>> Philadelphia Inquirer reports.
>>> >>> Before Pennsylvania goes to the polls, the Cleveland, Ohio-area >>> >>> elections board will release the results of its investigation. Some >>> >>> ballots containt possible evidence of voter fraud, which in Ohio is >>> >>> punishable by up to a year in jail and a $2,500 fine.
>>> >>> "I'm looking for evidence," Sandy McNair, a Democratic member of the >>> >>> county's elections board tells the Plain Dealer. "I'm not interested >>> >>> in a witch hunt. But I am interested in holding people accountable, >>> >>> whether they're Democrat or Republican."
>>> >>> This video is from MSNBC's Verdict, broadcast March 24, 2008.
>>> >>> "I want justice...There's an old poster out West, as I recall, that >>> >>> said, 'Wanted: Dead or Alive,'" >>> >>> - G.W. Bush, 9/17/01, UPI
>>> >>> "I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. >>> >>> It's not that important. It's not our priority." >>> >>> - G.W. Bush, 3/13/02
>"Prosperity and peace are in the balance," -- Putsch, not admitting that he's against both
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>>> >> >> Abrams praises investigation of Limbaugh's Dem primary 'dirty tricks' >>> >> >> David Edwards and Nick Juliano >>> >> >> Published: Tuesday March 25, 2008
>>> >> >> This month's primaries in Ohio and Texas resurrected Hillary Clinton >>> >> >> from the political graveyard for the umpteenth time this election >>> >> >> season.
>>> >> >> Conservative talker Rush Limbaugh is taking credit for Clinton's >>> >> >> continued presence in the race after encouraging Republican voters to >>> >> >> switch parties before those two big states voted March 4, and he has >>> >> >> called on Pennsylvania GOPers to do the same before their state votes >>> >> >> April 22. Limbaugh's listeners are worried about an election fraud >>> >> >> investigation, which could result in criminal charges for voters in at >>> >> >> least one Ohio county.
>>> >> >> MSNBC host Dan Abrams says the right-wing radio host's aim is "to >>> >> >> subvert democracy and inject dirty tricks into the Democratic >>> >> >> nomination process."
>>> >> >> "I've said it before, I think it's un-American to encourage people to >>> >> >> vote for a candidate they don't want to win, in order to corrupt the >>> >> >> process," Abrams said. "But in Ohio, it may also be illegal."
>>> >> >> He went on to discuss a probe in Cuyahoga County, which includes >>> >> >> Cleveland, where Board of Elections officials are launching an >>> >> >> investigation into crossover voters to determine whether any are >>> >> >> guilty of election fraud, a felony. Results of the investigation will >>> >> >> be released March 31.
>>> >> >> It's unlikely that Limbaugh single-handedly swung the results to >>> >> >> Clinton in either state, as was his stated intention. Clinton and her >>> >> >> Democratic rival Barack Obama split Republicans in Ohio, and Obama won >>> >> >> Texas Republicans, according to network exit polls.
>>> >> >> In Ohio's Cuyahoga County, which includes Cleveland, the Plain Dealer >>> >> >> reported that a "staggering" 16,000 Republicans switched parties to >>> >> >> vote in the March 4 Democratic primary. Some GOP voters openly >>> >> >> acknowledged their intention to meddle with the opposing party, >>> >> >> writing messages like "For one day only" on pledges voters are >>> >> >> required to sign indicating they will support the party whose primary >>> >> >> they are voting in.
>>> >> >> As staggering as the Cuyahoga County figure seemed, exit polls suggest >>> >> >> crossover voters may have been even more prevalent elsewhere in the >>> >> >> state. Nearly 325,000 voters cast a ballot for either Obama or Clinton >>> >> >> in the Cleveland area, so Republicans accounted for about 5 percent of >>> >> >> the Democratic turnout. Statewide, Republicans made up about 9 percent >>> >> >> of the Democratic primary electorate, according to the exit polls.
>>> >> >> Obama has touted his support among independents and GOP voters -- >>> >> >> so-called Obamacans -- and while some crossover voters told the PD >>> >> >> they voted for Clinton to set up an easy target for John McCain in the >>> >> >> fall, others said they thought Obama would be an easier opponent. >>> >> >> Plenty of Republicans also voted Democratic out of heart-felt beliefs, >>> >> >> to be sure, as the GOP struggles in what is expected to be a rocky >>> >> >> election year.
>>> >> >> In Pennsylvania, Obama's campaign was working hard to get supporters >>> >> >> to switch their registration from independent or Republican to >>> >> >> Democratic. He even ran a radio ad reminding those voters that Monday >>> >> >> was the last day they could register as Democrats to vote in the April >>> >> >> 22 primary. Meanwhile, Limbaugh also has said he has "operatives" >>> >> >> registering Republicans as Democrats to vote for Clinton.
>>> >> >> Between March 10 and 17, the most recent timeframe available, more >>> >> >> than 14,000 new Democrats registered to vote in Pennsylvania and >>> >> >> 29,000 voters switched their registration to the Democratic party, the >>> >> >> Philadelphia Inquirer reports.
>>> >> >> Before Pennsylvania goes to the polls, the Cleveland, Ohio-area >>> >> >> elections board will release the results of its investigation. Some >>> >> >> ballots containt possible evidence of voter fraud, which in Ohio is >>> >> >> punishable by up to a year in jail and a $2,500 fine.
>>> >> >> "I'm looking for evidence," Sandy McNair, a Democratic member of the >>> >> >> county's elections board tells the Plain Dealer. "I'm not interested >>> >> >> in a witch hunt. But I am interested in holding people accountable, >>> >> >> whether they're Democrat or Republican."
>>> >> >> This video is from MSNBC's Verdict, broadcast March 24, 2008.
>>> >> >> "I want justice...There's an old poster out West, as I recall, that >>> >> >> said, 'Wanted: Dead or Alive,'" >>> >> >> - G.W. Bush, 9/17/01, UPI
>>> >> >> "I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. >>> >> >> It's not that important. It's not our priority." >>> >> >> - G.W. Bush, 3/13/02
>>> >> >> Pay your taxes so the rich don't have to.
>>> >> >The loonie libs would just luv to get Rush on this, but it ain't gonna >>> >> >happen.
>>> >> Agreed. As long as Putsch is in office, right wingers are above the >>> >> law.
>>> >Oh, I don't know about this one. A radio host tells his minions to go >>> >out and break the law, some of them go out and break the law, and it's >>> >the radio host's fault?
>>> No, but he is complicit. There IS such a thing as conspiracy charges, >>> you know.
>>This crime involves one person. Basically, a person showed up at the >>polling place, that person voted when he shouldn't have, and did so of >>his own volition. This isn't a conspiracy; it's stupidity.
>>One question, though; how can you have a conspiracy when the two >>people supposedly involved have never had contact with each other.
>Same way a hired gun for the mob who has never spoken to the head of >the family can stil be part of the same conspiracy. It is enough that >the mob boss makes his wishes known.
I keep waiting for Zepp to use his Michael Moore defense on this one....doens't seem to be happening.
>>> >Far be it from me to defend Limbaugh, but for Chrissakes, this is >>> >insane. I just don't see how he's responsibility for the stupidity of >>> >the idiots who listen to him and do what he says. Isn't this much like >>> >those mothers who tried to sue Ozzy Osbourne because he supposedly >>> >told their kids to commit suicide? Whatever happened to individual >>> >free will. The schmucks who chose to break the law in Ohio should be >>> >prosecuted, not Limbaugh.
>>> That's been a favorite defence of the GOP for years: "he wuz too >>> stoop'd to know he was doin' anything wrong."
>>Well, in this case, they're right. How far do we take this? If Thom >>Hartmann tells his listeners to join a protest, and they end up >>arrested, should we also go after Thom, because he told them to do >>it?
>>> >I'd much rather see him thrown in jail for doctor shopping, or other >>> >things he IS responsible for.
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