Are Ed & Elaine Brown Facing Life in Prison?? Are the Feds Declaring War on Living, Breathing, Flesh-and-Blood, Sentient, Natural American Men and Women?
Raymond Karczewski
War on Living, Breathing, Flesh-and-Blood, Sentient, Natural American
Men and Women?
Margot Sanger-Katz Concord Monitor Reporter wrote:
Magickman wrote:
Raymond Karczewski (ark...@earthlink.net) wrote:
mm: > Some new developments in the Brown case.....Ed and Elaine
could be facing life in prison.
mm: > Browns face conspiracy, arms counts
mm: > Couple arrested in standoff over taxes
Concord Monitor Newspaper Quote
Sixteen months after their armed standoff with federal officials ended
in a peaceful, undercover arrest, Ed and Elaine Brown were back in New
Hampshire yesterday to face weapons and conspiracy charges for their
activities.
If found guilty, the couple could receive what amount to life
sentences. Just one charge, for possession of destructive devices,
carries a mandatory minimum sentence of 30 years in prison.
The Browns, who were convicted of tax-related felonies in January
2007, fled authorities and holed up in their fortified and
well-provisioned Plainfield home for nearly nine months. They
entertained guests, accumulated weapons, spoke with news reporters and
threatened violence against any agent who tried to arrest them.
An 11-count indictment unsealed yesterday accuses the Browns of
conspiring with supporters to interfere with arrest attempts and
stockpile weapons and homemade bombs. The indictment describes pipe
bombs, exploding rifle targets, improvised booby trap guns and cans of
gunpowder wrapped with nails. In testimony during the trial of several
supporters last year, federal agents described finding Ed Brown's
fingerprints on several of the devices, which were scattered
strategically around the house near detonation cords, matches and
high-powered rifles.
Throughout their tax trial and the standoff, the Browns challenged the
authority of the federal government, saying repeatedly that no law
required them to pay taxes and that they were not subject to federal
jurisdiction.
During their separate arraignments in Concord yesterday, the couple
maintained their positions. Though they were not allowed to speak to
each other before the hearings, they both rejected appointed counsel,
refused to offer pleas and expressed their view that the indictment
was invalid.
"I am not the person on this indictment," Elaine Brown, 68, told
federal Magistrate Judge James Muirhead yesterday. "I do not plan on
taking part in any proceeding on it whatsoever."
http://www.cmonitor.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090220/FRONTPAGE/902200304
Related:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/browns-face-conspiracy-arms-counts.html
http://www.topix.com/city/plainfield-nh/2009/02/browns-face-conspiracy-arms-counts
mm: > This is a travesty, and a crime perpetrated by the Federal
Powers that so many States are rapidly pulling away from. All the
Browns did was refuse to pay an illegal income tax, like many others
have done. they had guns in their home, just as many Americans do.
They refused a court summons, as they saw the illegality of it. does
this merit life in prison, or even a day in jail?
rk: Magickman, it is not a travesty. It is TREASON. Elaine is
correct in challenging the Court to Prove JURISDICTION over her, a
Living, Breathing, Flesh-and-Blood, Sentient, Natural Woman, and
establish once and for all that she is not the Fictional Juristic
Person/Defendant whose name is spelled in ALL CAPS on the Criminal
Complaint/Information. One is a Living, Breathing, Flesh-and-Blood,
Sentient, Natural Women created by God, , the other a dead, Fictional
corporate entity, created by Government. Government DOES NOT HAVE
JURISDICTION over its Creator, the Sovereign People. It is time for
Americans to right the topsy-turvy, master/slave matrix, Americans now
face in their lives.
rk: Elaine is forcing the New Hampshire courts to address the same
Question of JURISDICTION that the STATE OF OREGON, and COUNTY OF
JOSEPHINEWOULD NOT, COULD NOT, WILL NOT, AND HAVE NOT to this very
day, seven years after my arrest answer in my two cases (02CR0617 and
03CR0170) causing them to throw me out of jail and regard me as "hands
off", even though I have continued to repeat after my release, the
same acts for which I was originally arrested and tried for in spite
of serving commercial papers w/affidavit on the Oregon Governor,
Attorney General, District Attorney, Judges, etcs.
rk: The Oregon Authorities refuse to arrest me. Why? Because they
cannot answer the question of JURISDICTION without revealing the scam
our courts have perpetrated upon the American People. It is time
for the embarassment and Shame, experienced by the STATE OF OREGON, be
shared with the rest of the Pharisitical Court's operation in New
Hampshire and our nation today.
rk: NOW'S THE TIME FOR ALL MEN AND WOMEN OF GOOD WILL TO COME TO THE
AID OF THOSE who have risen above the level of idle talk, and COMPEL
the courts through a NAITONWIDE groundswell of phone call, emails, and
letters to ANSWER THE QUESTIONS: I.E., SHOW US THE LAW that convicted
Ed and Elaine Brown, and PROVE JURISDICITON in writing as the present
law demands, over them, as they stand before the court as Living,
Breathing, Flesh-and-Blood, Sentient, Natural Man and Woman, Sovereign
Children of God, the Backbone of the Sovereign American People, the
TRUE GOVERNMENT who have not given their consent to do business with
an Unconstitutional, private, Administrative Corporate Court. .
rk: This is the issue that can return control of our country into the
hands of the True Government, the Sovereign People.
rk: This is the Moment of Truth for America. Inundate the Courts
with your comments. Is America a Land of Sovereigns, or a land of
slaves? Ed and Elaine, have put themselves on the Line for Freedom
and Sovereignty in America. I have proven that Sovereignty TRUMPS
Tyranny, in my case. It remains to the American People to step up and
assert their True Authority over their Government Servants.
rk: It is time for Ed and Elaine Brown to return to their Life as
Freedom-Loving, Americans, and put the real Treasonous Criminals who
threaten our freedom in Jail or to the gallows where they belong.
Raymond Ronald KarczewskiŠ
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Raymond Karczewski
Declaring War on Living, Breathing, Flesh-and-Blood, Sentient, Natural
American Men and Women?
Margot Sanger-Katz Concord Monitor Reporter wrote:
Magickman wrote:
Raymond Karczewski (arke...@earthlink.net) wrote:
Edgar Wolphe spamt...@spamcop.com
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Tue, 24 Feb 2009 03:55:20 GMT
ew: > Karczewski) wrote:
cmn: >>> Concord Monitor Newspaper Quote
Sixteen months after their armed standoff with federal officials ended
in a peaceful, undercover arrest, Ed and Elaine Brown were back in New
Hampshire yesterday to face weapons and conspiracy charges for their
activities.
ew: > Ahhh.... home sweet home!
cmn: >>> If found guilty, the couple could receive what amount to
life sentences. Just one charge, for possession of destructive
devices, carries a mandatory minimum sentence of 30 years in prison.
ew: > Gee- All this because they were greedy.
cmn: >>> An 11-count indictment unsealed yesterday accuses the Browns
of conspiring with supporters to interfere with arrest attempts and
stockpile weapons and homemade bombs.
ew: > That should be an easy one, as they rather boastfully
plastered the Internet with descriptions of some of the little
"surprises" they had prepared for the Ultimate Assult.
cmn: >>> The indictment describes pipe bombs, exploding rifle
targets, improvised booby trap guns and cans of gunpowder wrapped with
nails.
ew: > "they were just toys for the grand kids!"
cmn: >>> Throughout their tax trial and the standoff, the Browns
challenged the authority of the federal government, saying repeatedly
that no law required them to pay taxes and that they were not subject
to federal jurisdiction.
ew: > And then they eagerly... desperately!... tried to placate the
feds once they landed in prison.
cmn: >>> they both rejected appointed counsel, refused to offer
pleas and expressed their view that the indictment was invalid.
ew: > Ahhh... the Court of Ray defense at work
rk: After conviction, the Josephine County Oregon Judges THREW ME OUT
OF JAIL. Works for me!!!
cmn: >>> "I am not the person on this indictment," Elaine Brown, 68,
told federal Magistrate Judge James Muirhead yesterday. "I do not plan
on taking part in any proceeding on it whatsoever."
ew: > Anyone want to make book on how far that argument will take
them?
rk: >>it is not a travesty. It is TREASON. Elaine is correct in
challenging the Court to Prove JURISDICTION over her,
ew: > According to the Court of Ray, that is. But in a U.S. court,
proof of jurisdiction is somewhat easier. Like... "did you earn all
those millions while working the USA?"
rk: Here a disinformation agent, panders to the lowest common
denominator of ignorant, undiscerning, mind controlled sheeple.
rk: >> and establish once and for all that she is not the Fictional
Juristic Person/Defendant whose name is spelled in ALL CAPS on the
Criminal Complaint/Information.
ew: > It has already been established that *your* fiction holds no
water in an American Court. It will be thus for Ed and Elaine. Then
they can boo-hoo for the rest of their lives claiming how "illegal"
their lawful conviction was. It won't get them out of prison, but it
might male them feel better to have someting to gripe about.
rk: All the court has to do is ANSWER THE QUESTIONS OF LAW AND
JURISDICTION UNDER OATH OR AFFIDAVIT TO THE AMERICAN PUBLIC.
Is such a demand out of line, when black robed pharisees hold in their
judicial hands the rest of life in prison for an American Man and
Woman who proudly assert themselves as members of the Sovereign
People, the TRUE GOVERNMENT, under our CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC?
rk: Elaine is forcing the New Hampshire courts to address the same
Question of JURISDICTION that the STATE OF OREGON, and COUNTY OF
JOSEPHINE WOULD NOT, COULD NOT, WILL NOT, AND HAVE NOT to this very
day, seven years after my arrest answer in my two cases (02CR0617 and
03CR0170) causing them to throw me out of jail and regard me as "hands
off", even though I have continued to repeat after my release, the
same acts for which I was originally arrested and tried for in spite
of serving commercial papers w/affidavit on the Oregon Governor,
Attorney General, District Attorney, Judges, etcs.
ew: > We will now skip over the manditory "It's All About Ray!"
message...
rk: >> This is the Moment of Truth for America. Inundate the Courts
with your comments.
ew: >Dear Court-
ew: >Tax cheats, convicted felons evading arrest, and willful intent
to inflict great bodily harm and death on brave officers of the law
should not be tolerated no matter how silly their defense. They
belong in Jail! DO YOUR JOB!
EW
rk: To the People of America, What you see in the response of the
Government/Media Disinformation Agent, who uses the internet Handle,
Edgar Wolfe (which may or may not be his true name) and is quite
typical of the Government/media campaign to discredit and destroy
credibility of serious authors, contributing to the Internet.
rk: Prove it to yourself, Go to Google, Concentrate on the
alt.fan.art-bell and alt.consciousness.4th-way newsgroups which serves
as headquarters for the Government dirty tricks, mind control,
disinformation operation and Google the name Edgar Wolfe. check out
his evasive attempt to identify himself, observe the secretive profile
and his contributions which follow.
rk: Ask yourself this. What purpose does Wolfe serve? What is his
agenda? His Motive for writing on the Internet? . What contributions
to a better world has wolfe made to the internet. What has he
actually done aside from stalking me and other authors with an agenda
toward misdirection and defamation.
rk: See for yourself, the conspiratorial links Wolfe has forged with
other Government/Media, Disinformation Agents operating under a host
of aliases while assigned to disrupt and misdicred popular Internet
Newsgroups from serious discussion. .
rk: Wolfe is part of the 14 year disinformation group which has
stalked my writing and for which I have sought to bring about an FBI,
State, and County Sheriffs Investigation into a treasonous
Intelligence community political dirty tricks/mind
control/disinformation campaign unlawfully launched by our government
against the American People, See:
http://www.petitiononline.com/RayNita1/petition.html
rk: Their effort is to cause confusion, misdirect public attention,
destroy credible contributors and infuse fear into the minds of those
who fear being focused upon by such mind manipulating marauding
stalkers.
rk: One thing is VERY CLEAR. The issue of JURISDICTION that Ed and
Elaine has demanded of the court WILL ONCE AND FOR ALL ESTABLISH
the proper relationship between the Sovereign People which have been
duped by their government servants to "believe" they are slaves, human
resources, property of the state.
rk: It is time to put a halt to the Tyrannical Momentum rapidly
unfolding into a Police State and take back Our Constitutional
Republic. America is the Hope of the Freeworld. We are under
assualt. We can take back our country from the hands of the criminal
element which has Hijacked our Constitutional Government. HOW?
By a nationwide phone, email, fax, campaign demanding that the New
Hampshire Courts ANSWER the question of JURISDICTION over the Living,
Breathing, Flesh-and-Blood, Sentient, Natural Man and Woman, Ed and
Elaine Brown.
rk: A Nation cannot be free if its prosecutors and judges will not
justify their positions by answering questions of law which establish
their judicial parameters when dealing with Natural men and women of
the Sovereign People.
rk: If Americans lack the courage to act when there is not danger to
them, what is left for them when the Martial Law troops are unleashed
upon them.
rk: Here is the real ammo which can bring an unconstitutional
government down. Two questions: SHOW US THE LAW which required Ed
and Elaine Brown to pay income tax, and Prove Jurisdiction in writing
as the Law commands over Living, Breathing, Flesh-and-Blood, Sentient,
Natural Men and Women who do not consent to do business with an
unlawful, unconstitutional, non-ARTICLE III. Private, for-profit,
Corporate Court.
rk: America, the future of your country lies in your own hands. The
solutions to your problem is as close to you as your phone, computer,
and fax machine. FREEDOM, USE IT OR LOSE IT!!
Raymond Ronald KarczewskiŠ
Raymond Karczewski
Declaring War on Living, Breathing, Flesh-and-Blood, Sentient,
Natural American Men and Women?
Edgar Wolphe spamt...@spamcop.com
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George McElroy (jody4...@yahoo.com) wrote
Raymond Karczewski <ark...@earthlink.net> wrote:
gm: > To Edgar Wolphe, I would ask: Once the question of
jurisdiction is demanded, the court is compeled to answer. Why are
govt. employees (irs) refusing to show the law when defendents demand
them to do so.
rk: edgar wolphe is a big mouth jerk, a government disinformation
agent who figures he can schnooker the average dumbed-down sheeple
with his slick manipulative language. He takes great pride in his
ability to deceive the choir of dupes, he constantly sings to. .
rk: However, his comments just don't jibe with the Law as it stands.
rk: Here are the Judicial Cites which the STATE OF OREGON, JOSEPHINE
COUNTY COURT JUDGES, have routinely and repeatedly refused to follow
in my case and thus have violated the law of the land as it stands.
rk: They have refused to address the Challenge of Jurisdiction for
the last 7 years. You tell me. Who are the real criminals in
America's Courtrooms?
rk: When Oregon Judges band together conspiratorially and will not
even follow their own rules, how then, can justice be honestly
administered in American Courts. Here are the cites which were
repeatedly presented to the courts which they refused to answer to
and are reflected on the Court Record, : -- "Once jurisdiction is
challenged, it must be proven" HAGENS vs LAVINE, 15 U.S. 533 " No
sanctions can be imposed absent proof of jurisdiction. Standard
v.Olsen, 74 S. Ct. 768; Title 5 U.S.C., Sect 556 and 558 (b). " The
law provides that once State and Federal jurisdiction has been
challenged, it must be proven." Man v. Thiboutot, 100 S. Ct 2502
(1980)
gm: > Go to Marcella Brooks and send her the IRC sec. that requires
Americans to pay income taxes on domestic income. She was the foreman
on a jury trial and asked the prosecutor and the judge this question.
They could not site the law because there is none.
rk: My question George, is what the hell does it take for a nation of
Sheeple who are daily being fleeced by their elected officials until
they have nothing left to understand what goes on in our crooked
courts can only be rectified by them, not the Pharisees in black
robes. They have exposed themselves even back to the time of Jesus,
yet their Satanic Hold on the people/sheeple continue to this very
day.
gm: > When congressmen, irs agents,justice dept attorneys, and
judges are repeatedly asked 'Show me the Law'. why are they not
compelled to do so.
gm: > In our Bill of Rights, we specify.....the right of redress of
grievance shall not be denied. But they refuse to answer when our
rights are denied by governent, and we stand up and demand them, does
that make us unamerican????
rk: Those with the backbone are too few and far between. That is why
Americans are losing their country.
gm: > I ask you ed wolphe."Are people who think like you WORTHY of
the blood sacrifices made by all those who have gone before us and
those who are dying now in combat????
rk: wolphe's a cowardly punk who lives of the sacrifices of True
Men.. He just has not been called on it until now.
gm: > Many have made the ultimate sacriface so that our rights and
the freedom to excircise them will remain in existance. You have
attacked Ray' ego and missed the heart of what he is trying to do. In
the end you and those like you will be the ultimate losers.
rk: George, it is hoped that Americans will not abandon Ed and Elaine
Brown. I ask that the original article of this thread be distributed
widely to all freedom loving Americans. Then an organized Phone Tree
be initiated to flood the New Hampshier Courts, Legislators,
Prosecutors with phone call, emails, and faxes demanding they follow
the law cited above and answer the two questions pertinent to the
unlawful arrest and incarceration of Ed and Elaine Brown: -- I.E.,
SHOW US THE LAW that convicted Ed and Elaine Brown, and PROVE
JURISDICITON in writing as the present law demands, over them, as they
stand before the court as Living, Breathing, Flesh-and-Blood,
Sentient, Natural Man and Woman, Sovereign Children of God, the
Backbone of the Sovereign American People, the TRUE GOVERNMENT who
have not given their consent to do business with an Unconstitutional,
private, Administrative Corporate Court.
George McElroy
Raymond Ronald KarczewskiŠ
Raymond Karczewski
War on Living, Breathing, Flesh-and-Blood, Sentient, Natural American
Men and Women?
that it not be archived. This message will be removed from Groups in 6
days (Mar 4, 1:39 pm). wrote:
Raymond Karczewski (ark...@earthlink.net) wrote:
rk: How courageous of you, oh anonymous disinfo agent!!
rk: edgar wolphe is a big mouth jerk
ggfc:> raymond karczewski is projecting (and using ad hominems)
rk: Nothing ad hominem about it. Just plain fact. Why should anyone
regard anything coming out of you as Truth, if you are too cowardly
to back up your words with your true identity.
rk: >> They, the criminal, black robed Pharisees have refused to
address the Challenge of Jurisdiction for the last 7 years.
ggfc:> You broke the law in Josephine County, Josephine County has
jurisdiction.
rk: It is obvious that you know nothing of the law regarding the
JURISDICTION of which I speak. But I guess your silly interpretation
appeals to the undiscerning IGNORAMUSES there.
ggfc:> So how is life living in a broken down, battered bus, Ray?
rk: Again, you are talking through your hat, making it up as you go
along. I have all that I need to live a comfortable life. All my
needs are met. I am not indebted to anyone or anything but Divine
Guidance. I have everything operating and functional that I've had
while living in any home I lived in. Soon I will be off the grid with
a full solar installation to power the unit. How many people do you
know who face each day with such divine foresight/protection?.
ggfc:> Homelessness everything you thought it would be?
rk: The bus is my home. Why the overtime effort to plant the
disinformation seed that I am homeless? Could it be that you cannot
rebut the message, so you seek to discredit the Messenger?
rk: You government/media disinfo agents who cowardly stalk Internet
personalities while hiding in the shadows of anonymity are really
stretching it, aren't you?
rk: When America's sheeple come to understand they have, since
birth, been functioning as little more than outer-controlled, mind
conditioned robotic satanic servants/slaves through millenia of
Satanic political and religious mind control, get over their shock
when they finally understand they have a Christ. a "simple man of
Truth." living in their midst, they shall be moved to act upon the
truth of the existing 14 year library of Christ wisdom (See:
http://www.arkenterprises.com/ )
rk: Once spiritually awakened, they shall rise above their
debilitating Satanically imposed fear and find the guiding Truth which
was stripped away from them throughout their BASSACKWARD, TOPSY TURVY,
insane life.
rk: That is how the American People will rescue themselves from the
Tyranny of Satanic elitists/moneychangers which have always existed
in controlling satanic ruled civilizatios,
rk: Thus will begin the bloodless Second American Revolution. It
will start with the groundswell support for the liberation of Ed and
Elaine Brown (who represent every Sovereign man, woman and child in
America) from their Unlawful Incarceration by those Satanic henchment
who are responsible for the Hellish changes going on in America today.
. --
ggfc:> Gil Gilbertson for Governor of Oregon
ggfc:> Raymond Karczewski for Court Jester
Raymond Ronald KarczewskiŠ
Raymond Karczewski
War on Living, Breathing, Flesh-and-Blood, Sentient, Natural American
Men and Women?
Edgar Wolphe spamt...@spamcop.com
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Raymond Karczewski (ark...@earthlink.net) wrote:
ew: > One can imagine what goes through a lawyer's mind when Ray
pontificates his case- spewing out citations like he actually knows
what he is talking about!!!
rk: Thats easy. One public defender whom the court forcefully
imposed (in order to protect themselves) on me against my will told
me that he could not represent me better than I represent myself. He
confided lawyers were not trained at that level of law and I know more
about it than he does.. After my closing statement to the jurors, the
other forcefull court imposed attorney stated that in 25 years of
practice it was the best closing argument he'd ever witnessed of a non
lawyer "acting without a safety net."
ew: > Ohhhh THE HYSTERIA!!!! You must have had JoCo's court in
stitches with crap like this! No wonder you will never again be taken
seriously!
rk: You are wasting your time with your attempts as misdirection.
The STATE OF OREGON and COUNTY OF JOSEPHINE went after me, threatening
me with 35 years only to release me after their offer of Sentencing
was rejected. So much for Contract Law, eh? That is the JURISDICTION
issue I refer to which you try so hard to distort.
ew: > BTW- the phrase "Once jurisdiction is challenged, it must be
proven" does not appear AT ALL in the in the case decision.
rk: Au Contraire, that is the precise language of the cite as stated.
ew: > And Ray-- I do hope that Ed and Elaine are not trying to use
these same citations in their defense!!! (heh, heh!)
rk: JURISDICTION is the primary challenge brought before the court
which must be answered by the court in order for them to proceed in
the prosecution of Ed and Elaine Brown. . Otherwise, the security
force was operating unlawfully and Ed and Elaine were KIDNAPPED by
members of such private, for profit, Corporate Security (regardless of
the title they present to a gullible public.)
rk: The indisputable fact is there is no lawful government operating
in America today as Administrative Courts are now acting as
prosecutors under "Color of Law" contract proceedings, and are not
Constitutional Article III courts,
rk: The Police of today are not lawful entities either since they are
now contract employees hired to protect the Corporation rather than
the People. It is the ignorance of the People which allow and support
such tyranny to continue.
rk: I assure you that if the People of America watch closely the
proceedings launched against Ed and Elaine over these newly trumped up
charges, (why were they not charged immediatly) and if Ed and Elaine
hold to their Sovereignty, CHALLENGING the court to prove
JURISDICTION, as I had in my two cases, they too, will be released,
and a few heads of judges, prosecutors, and sheriffs, will roll just
as they did in my case. Only this time, heads will roll for TREASON.
The government made a serious mistake with jailing two people over a
law that does not exist. They came up with these extra charges now to
keep them in custody and shut them up. Thats how Tyranny operates.
ew: > And... because I am a nice guy, here is the the link to the
the Supreme Court record. Ray... I suggest that actually suck up your
Ego long enough to click on this link and read the actual case you
think is so important to your "Soveriengty".
ew: > http://supreme.justia.com/us/415/528/case.html
rk: The Supreme Court's ruling doesn't apply to those who are not
subject to the Corporate rules. Unless the court can prove
JURISDICTION over the Living, Breathing, Flesh-and-Blood, Sentient,
Natural Man or Woman (which they can't-- A Fiction cannot claim
jurisdiction over its Sovereign Creator). You and thousands, if not
millions of Americans do not realize the immense importance of this
Issue is to the Unalienable Rights of the Sovereign People of our
country, the True Government.. Without it, America will become known
as the Home of the Cowardly and Land of the Slaves. . .
ew: > I did not bother to look into the other citations, but I am
sure that they are just as accurate as this one. But, it would
behoove you, Ray, to make the effort before you make yourself look
foolish again.
rk: It doesn't matter. Statutory Law is no more than legal (not
lawful) Corporate Policy and applies only to those who are subject to
such policies by their own consent which lie within the limited
JURISDICTION of the private, for profit Administrative Corporate
Court.
rk: . To any Living, Breathing, Flesh-and-Blood, Sentient, Natural
Man or Woman who has not consented to, nor contracted with, nor waived
their Rights is standing under God's Law, or to lesser degree,
Common Law, Constitutional Law, All these, in the order given, TRUMPS
the corporate rulings of all such private, Corporate, Administrative
Court Law
rk: In the language of Cruden v. Neale, The law states: "There, every
man is independent of all laws, except those prescribed by nature. He
is not bound by any institutions formed by his fellowmen without his
consent." CRUDEN v NEALE, 2 N.C. 338 (1796) 2 S.E. 70. That is
fundamental Law.
rk: That is why the STATE OF OREGON and COUNTY OF JOSEPHINE would not
and will not answer the question of JURISDICTION in my case. .
They're on the hook for Millions of Dollars, just in my case alone.
rk: What happens when thousands of Jailed Americans catch on to how
they have been unlawfully kidnapped and held hostage as slaves for the
perceived crimes of a fictional juristic person whom they are not.
Did not Elaine state simply in the court record: i.e, "I am not the
person on this indictment," Elaine Brown, 68, told federal Magistrate
Judge James Muirhead yesterday. "I do not plan on taking part in any
proceeding on it whatsoever."
rk: Now it is time for the Court to Rebut such statement offering
proof in writing as the law demands. They refused to do it in my
case. Let us see if they will do it in the case of Ed and Elaine
Brown, while an entire Nation watches on, demanding that the questions
be answered by those who have the power of life and death over those
unfortunates who are brought forcibly before them..
rk: In that Moment of Truth when the courts are forced to answer the
two questions of jurisdiction the People of our land will come to see
for themselves the true corruption of the Pharisees in Black Robes who
serve the agenda of Satan..
rk: When answered, the corrupt Satanic system would disintegrate in
the Blink of the Eye, and freedom, the gift enjoyed by all Sovereign
People will make itself known in America, if not the world which
surely will be watching on. That is what lies in the outcome of
the upcoming phony trials of Ed and Elaine Brown. SHOW US THE LAW,
AND PROVE JURISDICTION. Two simple questions which have the power to
bring down the Satanic Humpty Dumpty System, which, as the Childrens
fable predicts, "All the Kings Horses and All the Kings men cannot put
Humpty Dumpty back together again.
(ahhhh... scratch that ! Ray cannot help looking foolish!)
EW
Raymond Ronald KarczewskiŠ
Raymond Karczewski
War on Living, Breathing, Flesh-and-Blood, Sentient, Natural American
Men and Women?
Edgar Wolphe spamt...@spamcop.com
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Raymond Karczewski (ark...@earthlink.net) wrote
rk: >> JURISDICTION is the primary challenge brought before the
court which must be answered by the court in order for them to proceed
in the prosecution of Ed and Elaine Brown. . Otherwise, the security
force was operating unlawfully and Ed and Elaine were KIDNAPPED by
>members of such private, for profit, Corporate Security (regardless
of the title they present to a gullible public.)
ew: > Or, the court just might take the view that Ed and Elaine
committed a crime (actually, quite a number of crimes!) while living
in the State of New Hampshire and the United States. That solves the
Jurisdiction issue rather convincingly, does it not?
rk: The court can take an view they want, however there has to be
crime that has been committed for the court to try anyone for a crime,
not a so-called "Color of Law" crime.
rk: In the instant case, Ed and Elaine Brown stood in Common Law, and
therefore by their demonstrable actions taken no crime was committed.
rk: In Common Law, for a crime to be committed, one must do harm to
another or to another's property or infringe upon their Rights. No
Harm was done, by Ed and Elaine to either anyone or anyone's property,
nor did they infringe upon another's Rights. Therefore No crime was
committed by Ed and Elaine Brown.
rk: The court is attempting to try them Fraudulently as they had in
the first case, since the charges were based in what is know as
"statutory" law, or else known as "Color of Law". Color of Law apply
only to those who are subject to Corporate "Color of Law" policies.
rk: Ed and Elaine by standing in Common Law and Constitutional Law as
Sovereign People, they stood outside the jurisdiction of Maritime
Administrative Court Law, the court of contracts. They did not
consent to doing business (contracting with) the private, for profit,
Unconstitutional Non-Article III court. They, Ed and Elaine were
standing in their Private capacity as Living, Breathing,
Flesh-and-Blood, Sentient, Man and Woman. They were not acting
through the fictional Juristic Person whose name is spelled in all
capital Letters and created by the courts flying the military flag
with the Yellow Fringe.. That Sovereign standing was demonstrated by
Elaine when she advised the court: "I am not the person on this
indictment," and "I do not plan on taking part in any proceeding on
it whatsoever."
rk: Unless the court can prove JURISDICTION in writing to the
challenges made by Ed and Elaine Brown, the court would be committing
the crime of Fraud should they proceed with such unlawful,
unconstitutional proceedings.
rk: The OREGON AND JOSEPHINE COUNTY court did just that in my two
cases. That is why they threw me out of jail after their unlawful
conviction of my Juristic Person.
rk: They, the courts and prosecutors are now tainted with the crime of
fraud,a crime which carries with it no "Statute of Limitations" I can
move on them anytime I want. However, I am more successful in
educating a slumbering public as to who they truly are, along with
the power which exists in anyone acting in court in full legal
standing as a sovereign, man/woman of the People, the True Government.
rk: Sovereigns are the masters over black robed servants hired to do
the bidding of the Sovereign People, The public servants have
attempted to turn the tables on the Sovereign People in America.
The servants now present themselves as Master, and tyrannical masters
over their perceived public slaves at that.
rk: The two trials of Ed and Elaine Brown and my two cases in
JOSEPHINE COUNTY OREGON (Case #02CR0617 AND #03CR0170) the most
important legal events going in America Today. It is putting to the
test the question of whether American are Sovereign with full Rights
or Slaves.with no Rights.
rk: The challenge of JURISDICTION has been made by Elaine. Now the
Court MUST ANSWER the question of JURISDICTION in writing as to
whether Ed and Elaine Brown, are presumed to "Wards of the State",
"Infants" in the eyes of the Law, Incompetent to handle their own
legal affairs thereby preventing them from standing in their full
legal capacity, and/or are presumed by the court to be sureties for
the debts of the Juristic Person/defendant. However, Elaine has
already rebutted such presumption with her statement made on the court
record i.e., ."I am not the person on this indictment," and "I do not
plan on taking part in any proceeding on it whatsoever."
rk: It is now for the Court to answer the challenge of JURISDICTION
or drop all charges, including the phony charges which convicted Ed
and Elaine's Juristic Persons in the first trial and immediately
releasing them from custody, or they stand guilty of Fraudulent
Prosecution.. "Once jurisdiction is challenged, it must be proven"
HAGENS vs LAVINE, 15 U.S. 533 " No sanctions can be imposed absent
proof of jurisdiction. Standard v.Olsen, 74 S. Ct. 768; Title 5
U.S.C., Sect 556 and 558 (b). " The law provides that once State and
Federal jurisdiction has been challenged, it must be proven." Man v.
Thiboutot, 100 S. Ct 2502 (1980)
rk: For all you Freedom Loving Americans out there, I ask that you
pass this thread onto all of similar mind and soul throughout our
nation,, keep those cards, letters, emails and faxes and phone Calles
going to New Hampshire Courts and Legislators. They are our SERVANTS.
We are their MASTERS. Act like it. We can take back our country
without firing a shot in Bloody Revolution.
Raymond Ronald KarczewskiŠ