> i wonder how many regulars remember our recently departed prison guard's
> problems with his forgery of email from the new york times, and how many
> of these remember that the forgery attempt was an illiterate effort to
> cover up a false claim of plagiarism.
>
> interesting how the pretend perfesser got caught in a false allegation
> of plagiarism today.
>
> i wonder what will happen next?
I would say that we can expect a large-scale (for Usenet) construct of
rationalizations and counter-counter-counter-accusations, followed by
a posting break.
i was kind of hoping the pretend perfesser would last a little bit more
until he completely implodes and .....
...completes the history loop.
Maybe he should speed it up a little and conclude a week from next Thursday,
for reasons a few of you would understand.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (pat...@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.prismnet.com/~patrick/aeros.php (TCI's 2009-10 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
LAST GAME: San Antonio 3, Houston 2 (April 11)
NEXT GAME: The 2010-11 opener, in October 2010
I made mention of this farce of yours on another thread today:
"There are clumsy forgeries and
clever forgeries, and things that look like forgeries but are not,
such as the "New York Times forgery" that only a slobbering character
assassin like Keegan would think to be a forgery rather than a trap to
get him to make a foolish false charge of forgery."
For the whole thread see:
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.abortion/browse_thread/thread/0b376853a0a8a588/2b5e9744059fb9f9?lnk=raot#2b5e9744059fb9f9
I didn't bother to add that so great is the spell you hold over
minions like Tom S., "Spartakus," "elizabeth" etc. that they march in
lockstep with you over every drooling charge you make, either backing
you up without bothering to use their common sense, or keeping mum
about the issue but making diversionary attacks on anyone who
questions your benighted judgment.
> and how many
> of these remember that the forgery attempt was an illiterate
...deliberately made to look like the work of someone with poor
spelling (though hardly "illiterate"--Keegan loves to misuse the word)
so that you would recognize right away that it could not be from the
NYT--but all indications are that this was Osprey's intent all along,
and no amount of TbBA to the effect that everyone KNOWS that this was
a forgery attempt is worth a hill of beans. And that's all I've ever
gotten--no attempt, not even a pretended attempt, to use deductive
logic of the sort Arthur Conan Doyle loved to talk about.
> effort to
> cover up a false claim of plagiarism.
Hmmm...I'm not sure what this refers to--could it be the out-of-
context statement which you kept putting in your .sig where he made
the claim that you [or was he addressing someone else?] stole the
identity of one James G. Keegan, Jr. who really was an author?
Peter Nyikos
Spartakus "KNOWS" Keegan is right about this--not that he could
explain his "knowledge" to save himself from waterboarding, whether of
the American or Japanese variety. His specialty is broken record
routines like:
No. need. to. explain. It. is. obvious.
> > interesting how the pretend perfesser got caught in a false allegation
> > of plagiarism today.
> > i wonder what will happen next?
One thing that will NOT happen is "Spartakus" showing any recognition
that Keegan is indulging in blatant Begging the Question over and over
above. Lately that fallacy seems to be a favorite of Keegan's.
> I would say that we can expect a large-scale (for Usenet) construct of
> rationalizations and counter-counter-counter-accusations,
with you coming down foursquare on the side of the pathological liar
posting as James G. Keegan, Jr., just like you did on the thread,
Pathological Liar of the Month (May 2009) -- Keegan
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.abortion/browse_thread/thread/b2d5515d06675d56/76844679335637aa
Your contribution came in a post where you totally ignored Keegan's
libel about me having "defend[ed] sodomizing small boys" and instead
went into a hysterical tirade about a socially gauche (IYO) comment I
made, comparing me to the KGB and Stalin for it. Then you cravenly
ran away from a pair of posts by me comparing my social *faux pas*
(IYO) with Keegan's libel, and asking you whether you saw these things
differently from me.
Truly, you are the kind of hypocrite Jesus Christ railed about, blind
guides who strain out the gnat and swallow the camel.
> followed by
> a posting break.
Care to make another benighted prediction as to WHEN that will be?
Your previous prediction, obviously based on your knowledge that USC's
spring break would be about the time you predicted, was off by a good
amount.
Peter Nyikos
I wonder whether Keegan will produce the missing ingredient in his
"got caught" assertion--an affidavit by Frank Rich that Keegan
actually was the ghost writer for enough of his article to justify
Keegan's calling Sparks a liar for having claimed he never saw Keegan
formulate an intellectual thought or opinion.
Keegan has been frantically deleting even more than usual from his
replies to me, evidently out of fear that people who have me killfiled
will actually learn what the real issue is, rather than the bogus
thing Keegan wants them to think it is.
> )O(cackle~cackle)O(
>
> Yup, he Oopseyed Out ...
I see you are joining Keegan in building castles in the air. You
should try to get him to move his over to Mount Ghostwriter Keegan,
the only place on earth where it can settle safely--assuming such a
virtual mountain exists at all.
Yippee-i-ee, yippee-i-o-o!
Ghost writer's in the sky.
--pun on classic Stan Jones song
Peter Nyikos
> On May 8, 6:37�pm, elizabeth <efran...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > On May 7, 7:54�pm, "james g. keegan jr." <jgkee...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > i wonder how many regulars remember our recently departed prison guard's
> > > problems with his forgery of email from the new york times, and how many
> > > of these remember that the forgery attempt was an illiterate effort to
> > > cover up a false claim of plagiarism.
> >
> > > interesting how the pretend perfesser got caught in a false allegation
> > > of plagiarism today.
> >
> > > i wonder what will happen next?
>
> I wonder whether Keegan will produce the missing ingredient in his
> "got caught" assertion
you're being silly, pretend perfesser. the origina and properly cited
article has been posted three times in its entirety.
your sick and malicious lie was conclusively proven.
your sick and seemingly psychotic behavior in defending your disgusting
actions have raved you and the name nyikos far more severely than any of
your newsgroups adversaries.
> On May 7, 11:47�pm, Spartakus <sparta...@my-deja.com> wrote:
> > "james g. keegan jr." <jgkee...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > i wonder how many regulars remember our recently departed prison guard's
> > > problems with his forgery of email from the new york times, and how many
> > > of these remember that the forgery attempt was an illiterate effort to
> > > cover up a false claim of plagiarism.
>
> Spartakus "KNOWS" Keegan is right about this-
so does everyone who rad the three complete reposts proving that your
sick malicious claim was a lie.
the only thing more damaging to you than those posts has been your
seemingly psychotic behavior in trying to defend your disturbed behavior.
> On May 7, 10:54�pm, "james g. keegan jr." <jgkee...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > i wonder how many regulars remember our recently departed prison guard's
> > problems with his forgery of email from the new york times,
>
> I made mention of this farce of yours on another thread today:
oh people know you have posted your sick, and psychotic lis about me in
many threads.
your have destroyed yoruself.
I see . . .. projecting again, very oopsey of you.
> I see you are joining Keegan in building castles in the air.
You should see someone about your delusional state.
It's a fairly safe bet that only Keegan's minions and people
unfamiliar with the original thread will subscribe to this false
"memory".
> > > > interesting how the pretend perfesser got caught in a false allegation
> > > > of plagiarism today.
>
> > > > i wonder what will happen next?
Maybe it's your minions leaving you alone on this thread because your
selective dishonest deletia are too much for even them to stomach.
> > I wonder whether Keegan will produce the missing ingredient in his
> > "got caught" assertion
>>--an affidavit by Frank Rich that Keegan
>>actually was the ghost writer for enough of his article to justify
>>Keegan's calling Sparks a liar for having claimed he never saw Keegan
>>formulate an intellectual thought or opinion.
[...]
>the origina and properly cited
> article has been posted three times in its entirety.
Why do you keep harping on this ONE ingredient when you know damn well
that more is required for your "got caught" assertion to hold water?
[As usual, I've restored text with >> in the margin instead of > >]
Peter Nyikos
You seem to have lost your sanity, Keegan, with this delusion that
three reposts of a Frank Rich article that ran less than a month ago
somehow prove that Osprey did the things you described above several
years ago.
Or are indulging in massive deceit of readers who have killfiled me
and not you, figuring that they do not know what the content of those
three reposts was?
One thing is for sure, the minions of yours who have participated in
this thread so far know better, so it will be interesting to see how
they react to this deceit/coming unhinged of yours.
>proving that your
> sick malicious claim was a lie.
>
> the only thing more damaging to you than those posts has been your
> seemingly psychotic behavior in trying to defend your disturbed behavior.
See my post of a few minutes ago for how dishonest you are being HERE.
Peter Nyikos
Who is "your" and who is the "yoruself" he supposedly destroyed, and
what did my alleged "lis" consist of?
>>and how many
>>of these remember that the forgery attempt was an illiterate effort
In contrast to your *ahem* literate effort above?
Peter Nyikos
+++++++++ Keegan posting mode on
you are responding to yoruself. perhaps you need to seek help with
this problem of seeing oopsies behavior everywhere.
++++++++++Keegan posting mode off
> > I see you are joining Keegan in building castles in the air.
>
> You should see someone about your delusional state.
Why bother, when you are right here to tell me why you think Keegan is
building his "caught in a false allegation" castle on solid ground.
Perhaps you could begin with your take on what specific incident my
charge of plagiarism is in reaction to, and why you think reposting
the post in which Frank Rich's article appeared is supposed to refute
it.
> > You
> > should try to get him to move his over to Mount Ghostwriter Keegan,
> > the only place on earth where it can settle safely--assuming such
Hmmmmm . ...
> > You should see someone about your delusional state.
Note the extreme volume in a short time period from fauxNy, just like
oopsey, very manic, very obsessed. Dude, take a chill pill since you
won't take my advice and kill yourself.
> Why bother, when you are right here
No, I'm in SF, this is a newsgroup. and you are posting like a wombat
on crack.
> to tell me why you think Keegan is
> building his "caught in a false allegation" castle on solid ground.
Well,. your insanity is evident by your own conduct and comments.
it's not normal to react like you are, fauxNy, it's why Oopsey had to
go underground. It will catch up to you. Whatever you are
> Perhaps you could begin with your take on what specific incident my
> charge of plagiarism is in reaction to,
Don't give a shit, but it's great to watch you post like you're
huffing . .. . some might say it proves your accusers correct. So
do keep it up.
> and why you think reposting
> the post in which Frank Rich's article appeared is supposed to refute
> it.
Well, why do you keep posting absolute bollocks and refuse to get
decent cites? A real academic wouldn't use secondary . ..btw, when
are you going to post actual proof that fetuses feel pain before the
final tri? If I were you, I'd check the sources and read them
yourself.
>
>
> > > You
> > > should try to get him to move his over to Mount Ghostwriter Keegan,
> > > the only place on earth where it can settle safely--assuming such
> > > virtual mountain exists at all.
>
> > > Yippee-i-ee, yippee-i-o-o!
> > > Ghost writer's in the sky.
> > > --pun on classic Stan Jones song
>
> > > Peter Nyikos- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
> On May 12, 1:00�am, "james g. keegan jr." <jgkee...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > In article
> > <b123d577-0e11-4dc5-a2ee-f5ee39fbf...@t17g2000yqg.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> >
> >
> > �pnyikos <nyik...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> > > On May 8, 6:37�pm, elizabeth <efran...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > On May 7, 7:54�pm, "james g. keegan jr." <jgkee...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > > i wonder how many regulars remember our recently departed prison
> > > > > guard's
> > > > > problems with his forgery of email from the new york times,
>
> It's a fairly safe bet that only Keegan's minions and people
> unfamiliar with the original thread will subscribe to this false
> "memory".
the corrupt pretend perfesser has apparently decided that is better for
him to lie about osprey's well known and thoroughly documented forgery
of email from the new york times than to his own recently exposed lies
about plagiarism.
> On May 12, 1:03�am, "james g. keegan jr." <jgkee...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > In article
> > <d5bedeae-d0a3-485e-91de-952a9a5a9...@e1g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> > �pnyikos <nyik...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> > > On May 7, 10:54�pm, "james g. keegan jr." <jgkee...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > i wonder how many regulars remember our recently departed prison guard's
> > > > problems with his forgery of email from the new york times,
> >
> > > I made mention of this farce of yours on another thread today:
> >
> > oh people know you have posted your sick, and psychotic lis about me in
> > many threads.
> >
> > your have destroyed yoruself.
>
> Who is "your" and who is the "yoruself" he supposedly destroyed, and
> what did my alleged "lis" consist of?
ha ha. the corrupt pretend perfesser seems to want to talk about typos
rather than his false plagiarism claims and repeated lies.
> Oops, when I restored Keegan's words near the bottom I put one less >
> in the margin than I should have. I remedy that defect here.
no one will be surprised when you follow up your false claims of
plagiarism with forgery of onw sort or another like your pal osprey did.
> On May 12, 1:02�am, "james g. keegan jr." <jgkee...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > In article
> > <67ac9352-ad83-4fcc-8e51-1bf665617...@d27g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> > �pnyikos <nyik...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> > > On May 7, 11:47�pm, Spartakus <sparta...@my-deja.com> wrote:
> > > > "james g. keegan jr." <jgkee...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > > i wonder how many regulars remember our recently departed
> > > > > prison guard's problems with his forgery of email from the
> > > > > new york times, and how many of these remember that the
> > > > > forgery attempt was an illiterate effort to cover up a false
> > > > > claim of plagiarism.
> >
> > > Spartakus "KNOWS" Keegan is right about this-
> >
> > so does everyone who rad the three complete reposts
>
> You seem to have lost your sanity, Keegan
your ability to project is interesting, you sick, psychotic fraud.
caught in a prison of his own design, the sick, psychotic fraud posting
as peter nyikos is falling all over himself to direct the conversations
elsewhere.
Once again, the perfessor expects everybody to just blindly accept
whatever he writes, despite a long history of incompetence and
dishonesty.
--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net
it is amusing, in a way, to watch the crackpot pretend perfesser destroy
himself in almost exactly the same way osprey did.
> > ++++++++++Keegan posting mode off
I could also have said something about your needing to seek help with
this problem of criticizing yourself severely, but I don't
particularly enjoy staying in any Cozy Clique Member posting mode very
long. C.S. Lewis had a similar experience with writing _The Screwtape
Letters_ and it was quite a relief for him to get to the end.
> > > You should see someone about your delusional state.
>
> Note the extreme volume in a short time period from fauxNy,
...which you have no need to emulate because you aren't being attacked
relentlessly and voluminously by three or four people at once while
having no one to run interference for you, the way you are running
interference for Keegan.
But perhaps the relentless and voluminous attack on you by three or
four at once can be arranged if your *bete noire* Osprey ever
returns. When that happens, I expect several Musketeers to
relentlessly attack your attackers while you sit on the sidelines
enjoying the spectacle.
> just like
> oopsey, very manic, very obsessed. Dude, take a chill pill
Any time Keegan and Fischer do that, I'll gladly do so myself. But
the more manic and obsessed with me they are, the better you like it,
don't you?
> > Why bother, when you are right here
>
> No, I'm in SF, this is a newsgroup.
You are right here in this newsgroup with your inimitable virtual
presence. Stop being so literal minded.
> > to tell me why you think Keegan is
> > building his "caught in a false allegation" castle on solid ground.
>
> Well,. your insanity is evident by your own conduct and comments.
Even if that were true, your "support" for it has got nothing to do
with the castles in the air that you and Keegan are building about my
charges of plagiarism and about the old NYT farce. Nice to know you
can't refute THOSE charges.
[further attempts to evade responsibility for your initial oopseyed-
out claim, deleted]
> > Perhaps you could begin with your take on what specific incident my
> > charge of plagiarism is in reaction to,
>
> Don't give a shit,
Of course you don't. You made your claim that I'd "oopseyed out" as a
direct result of a pack of lies by Keegan, and you hate confronting
the issue of their falsehood and your gullibility.
You Cozy Clique members have the mentality of Emperor Kuzco of "The
Emperor's New Groove" ["don't know, don't care, how's that for an
answer?"--I'll tell you the context if you don't know it already].
The mentality of his potential victim Pacha is totally alien to you,
so you can't even fathom small approximations to it like my Usenet
behavior.
[further attempts to change the subject by you deleted]
Peter Nyikos
Once again, Fischer regales us with his childish poutiness, when he
knows damn well I never expect any such thing. That's because I keep
him busy deleting things like the repost below.
>despite a long history of incompetence and
> dishonesty.
None of which Fischer tells you about, because there is nothing to
tell about the latter and he would have to scour his memory and Google
for a long time to DOCUMENT any of the former.
Far be it for him to emulate my documentation of the context of his
infamous "don't give a shit about women" statement.
He MAY actually be afraid that I would pull the same stunt he did,
which was to delete the entire post and then claim that I was rambling
about "some post somewhere" or words to that effect.
But he's never actually given me the chance to do so, IIRC.
But I'm giving him a second chance to pull the same stunt here, so
that everyone may see what I am talking about.
===================== begin included repost
From: rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer)
Originator: rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer)
Date: 29 Jun 2007 07:50:43 GMT
Subject: Re: A Thought Experiment on Abortion
Message-ID: <4684b9d3$0$14120$742e...@news.sonic.net>
NNTP-Posting-Date: 29 Jun 2007 07:50:43 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Host: 94e89bf6.news.sonic.net
osprey <noneedtok...@mail.com> wrote:
>On Jun 29, 1:35 am, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>> Osprey <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:
>> >"Ray Fischer" <rfisc...@sonic.net> wrote in message
>> >> osprey <noneedtok...@mail.com> wrote:
>> >>> rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>> >>>> Osprey <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:
>> >>>> >"Ray Fischer" <rfisc...@sonic.net> wrote in message
>> >>>> >> osprey <noneedtok...@mail.com> wrote:
>> >>>> >>>On Jun 25, 11:01 pm, rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>> >>>> >>>> Osprey <NoNeedtok...@mail.com> wrote:
>> >>>> >>>> >"t1gercat" <wexford1...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> >>>> >>>> >> All religions, in the end, are about power and profit. All
>> >>>> >>>> >> religions
>> >>>> >>>> >> want to suffuse people in self-induced neuroses from which the\
y
>> >>>> >>>> >> surrender some self control to the religion. All religions wan\
t
>> >>>> >>>> >> money
>> >>>> >>>> >> and control, and all religions want individuals either to abju\
re
>> >>>> >>>> >> science and rationality or to confine them in a mental
>> >>>> >>>> >> compartment
>> >>>> >>>> >> whose walls keep the religious compulsions intack.
>>
>> >>>> >>>> >Does Science explain everything?
>> >>>> >>>> >Answer: No
>>
>> >>>> >>>> Does religion? Hell no. It doesn't explain much of anything.
>>
>> >>>> >>>You're too narrow minded and short-sighted to understand.
>>
>> >>>> >> And so Asshole Heishman declares victory and runs away, as usual.
>>
>> >>>> >Lets discuss the question I asked you in another thread, just today,
>> >>>> >where
>> >>>> >you cut out the question and ran away.
>>
>> >>>> >Shall we?
>>
>> >>>> Here's a clue, moron: I'm not going to waste my time an every inane,
>> >>>> irrelevant, and stupid question you come up with.
>>
>> >>>What is so stupid about asking you if you would help and/or support a
>> >>>woman who wants to get an abortion?
>>
>> >> It's stupid because it is not relevant.
>>
>> >It is relevant, because it shows you to be aliar when you claim to care
>> >about people.
>>
>> I don't claim to care about people, you dumbshit asshole. That's you
>> hallucinating from those drugs you've been taking.
>
>We both know you don't care about anyone but yourself.
We know that you're a liar and a coward, asshole, and every time you
embarrass yourself you start lying about other people.
> This little
>charade you like to put on, caring about the welfare of women;
I don't give a shit about women, you stupid dumbshit. And you really
need to lay of the drugs, moron, because if you get caught it'll mean
the end of your career.
--
Ray Fischer
rfisc...@sonic.net
============ end of post
Fischer libeled me by saying that I had lied about him saying he
didn't give a shit about women. As you can see from the above: only
did he say it, but the context, which included Osprey's question about
whether he'd ever helped a woman to get an abortion, only makes it
worse.
Peter Nyikos
>
> --
> Ray Fischer
> rfisc...@sonic.net
Smirk. The perfessor insists that he knows just what I think.
And gets it completely wrong.
>>despite a long history of incompetence and
>> dishonesty.
>
>None of which Fischer tells you about,
Alreadty have. Many times. Another example is just above.
--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net
Fischer is projecting big-time here: in well over 90 percent of all
the defamatory allegations he makes, he produces NO evidence of what
he is saying, and that holds true here, except that he falsely claims
that I am lying with the following statement:
> >Once again, Fischer regales us with his childish poutiness, when he
> >knows damn well I never expect any such thing.
>
> Smirk. The perfessor insists that he knows just what I think.
It's not what you think, it's what you know even if you indulge in
Doublethink about it. However, I do admit that "never" was a careless
overstatement where what he *knows* is concerned.
But it is largely true: Fischer knows I very frequently document what
I write, and it is PRECISELY because I care about people being able to
make up their own minds on the basis of evidence. As I did in the
post to which Fischer is following up:
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.abortion/msg/842ca1d2d52fe85b?dmode=source
You, Fischer, not only do not produce evidence from elsewhere even
now, but you deleted what I posted by way of illustration how much I
care about evidence-- the post whose url I gave just now.
It contains a full repost of the post where you said you don't give a
shit about women. Here is an url for that post, about which you have
lied shamelessly:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/318c4191f3850693?dmode=source
> And gets it completely wrong.
Don't you ever get tired of substituting fresh lies for evidence?
> >>despite a long history of incompetence and
> >> dishonesty.
>
> >None of which Fischer tells you about,
>
> Alreadty have. Many times. Another example is just above.
An "example" as worthless as all the others.
Peter Nyikos
[...]
> But it is largely true: Fischer knows I very frequently document what
> I write
don't be silly. most regulars know that you *never* support any claim
you are challenged to support.
You're slipping with the sockpuppet, Oopsey.
What do a pair [now become a trio] of attribution lines have to do
with what you are saying?
YOU are really slipping, "elizabeth".
By the way, you've never publicly confirmed or denied that your name
is Elizabeth Frantes, have you?
Peter Nyikos
Repeating this lie doesn't make it true. Here is a repost I am moving
here, which shows me supporting a claim you implicitly challenged me
to support by calling it a lie.
On May 14, 4:16 pm, "james g. keegan jr." <jgkee...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article
> <495458cb-dea3-4e92-b6f1-14342d213...@i31g2000vbt.googlegroups.com>,
>
>
>
> pnyikos <nyik...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> > On May 12, 7:41 pm, "james g. keegan jr." <jgkee...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > In article
> > > <37ba0b19-c038-44f7-9941-0bbcfa226...@d39g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>,
>
> > > pnyikos <nyik...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> > > > On May 12, 12:27 am, "james g. keegan jr." <jgkee...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > the scumball posting as peter nyikos is apparently so intimidated by me
> > > > > that, after he got caught making false allegations of plagiarism, he
> > > > > raised the stale topic of osprey's well known forgery of email from the
> > > > > new york times.
>
> > > > Don't flatter yourself, Keegan.
>
> > > what is your excuse then?
>
> > The fact that you eagerly brought that "stale topic" up
[...]
> to contrast your pattern with an earlier very similar pattern seems to
> have stung you.
I suppose you think that exposing your blatant lies about the NYT is a
sign that I was stung; but you were OBVIOUSLY stung by the following
statement by me...
======= begin repost of text deleted by Keegan
The "forgery" didn't even MENTION the New York Times, you shameless
four-flusher. It was done because you kept reposting a statement he
had made over a year earlier, which DID mention the New York Times,
and so he decided to have some fun with your slobbering by doing a
clever post to the same thread.
Being on the Smyrna, Delaware police force, he probably has several
co-
workers well acquainted with processes of entrapment.
As to "well known": so great is the spell you hold over minions like
Tom S., "Spartakus," "elizabeth" etc. that they march in lockstep with
you over every drooling charge you make, either backing you up without
bothering to use their common sense, or keeping mum about the issue
but making diversionary attacks on anyone who questions your benighted
judgment.
=================== end of repost
....because you deleted it so that statements like the following
wouldn't look utterly ridiculous:
> no one will be surprised when you forge email from the new york times,
Everyone would be surprised if I DID do that, because it would be
totally unprecedented for these newsgroups, now that you've shown your
inability to challenge my debunking of your "new york times forgery"
farce where Osprey is concerned.
Peter Nyikos
> probably immediately prior to one of your posting "breaks."
>
> [...]
===================== end of follow-up
I moved the follow-up her to keep the thread where it would have
appeared from getting clogged with this side issue. That thread was:
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.abortion/browse_thread/thread/0b376853a0a8a588/42eaddeefe3cb1d2?lnk=raot#42eaddeefe3cb1d2
> On May 14, 5:29 pm, elizabeth <efran...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On May 13, 2:02 pm, pnyikos <nyik...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> > > On May 12, 3:59 pm, elizabeth <efran...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > You're slipping with the sockpuppet, Oopsey.
>
> What do a pair [now become a trio] of attribution lines have to do
> with what you are saying?
You sure are obsessed about this ng and some of the posters, just very
Oopsey of you.
> YOU are really slipping, "elizabeth".
>
> By the way, you've never publicly confirmed or denied that your name
> is Elizabeth Frantes, have you?
Don't care what you think, fauxNy, but you are posting like an
Oopsey.
> Peter Nyikos
> On May 14, 4:24�pm, "james g. keegan jr." <jgkee...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > In article
> > <6572fed5-97ae-49fd-a4ba-48018ab6e...@w3g2000vbd.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> > �pnyikos <nyik...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > > But it is largely true: Fischer knows I very frequently document what
> > > I write
> >
> > don't be silly. most regulars know that you *never* support any claim
> > you are challenged to support.
>
> Repeating this lie doesn't make it true
then why do you repeat so many of your documented lies?
and very sensitive when the correlations are made.
>> >> >You seem to have lost your sanity, Keegan, with this delusion that
>>
>> >> Once again, the perfessor expects everybody to just blindly accept
>> >> whatever he writes,
>
>Fischer is projecting big-time here:
Not satisfied with whining the one time and shown up as a dishonest
hypocrite the first time, the asshole whines yet again.
>> >Once again, Fischer regales us with his childish poutiness, when he
>> >knows damn well I never expect any such thing.
>>
>> Smirk. �The perfessor insists that he knows just what I think.
>
>It's not what you think,
And now you're lying outright.
Business as usual.
--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net
So? It's none of your business. She's as real as I am, and I don't hide
behind your tactics. Maybe you should learn to filter your Usenet reading.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (pat...@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.prismnet.com/~patrick/aeros.php (TCI's 2009-10 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
LAST GAME: San Antonio 3, Houston 2 (April 11)
NEXT GAME: The 2010-11 opener, in October 2010
The "long history" is a figment of the virtual imagination of the
Fischer posting persona.
> it is amusing, in a way, to watch the crackpot pretend perfesser destroy
> himself in almost exactly the same way osprey did.
Only your repeated massive deletia are keeping this multiple lie of
yours alive in the eyes of those who have killfiled me and not you.
I can't imagine anyone else -- not even you or Fischer -- actually
believing the crap you keep posting about the plagiarism theme.
Here's a slightly expanded version of a post I did just now to the
thread where the theme arose, which explains one facet of what
despicable scoundrels Fischer and you are:
On May 7, 8:54 pm, "james g. keegan jr." <jgkee...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article
> <bc8e9afe-2b90-427d-8916-53c959b9c...@24g2000yqy.googlegroups.com>,
> pnyikos <nyik...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
[to Fischer, after reminding Fischer that he had said a while back
that he didn't give a shit about women and posting the url for
the post where he said it:]
> > Where's YOUR sense of personal responsibility--like, when are you
> > going to go beyond "did not--did too!" when it comes to your
> > defamatory accusations that you spewed up there?
> > Would it cut too deeply into your precious time for what appears to be
> > your chief joy in life, hurling more and more insults, to actually
> > justify more than a tiny handful of them?
> what is going on here?
> the fruitcake pretend perfesser
False.
> posting as peter nyikos who just
> knowingly made a false accusation of plagiarism
Wrong, see below.
> and then repeatedly lied
> about it
False.
> when proof of his lie
Nonexistent.
>was posted
What was posted was the first post to the "If only Arizona were
the real problem" thread, and it actually
tended to confirm the charge that you falsely attributed thoughts
or opinions in the article to yourself, since all signs pointed to
Frank Rich being the sole author.
> wants ray fischer to be ....
> nice????
No, just to show a tiny bit of responsibility that anyone would expect
of any normal adult. Even that seems to be too much for either you or
him to stomach: after the exchange you saw up there, Fischer deleted
the url for the post where he said he didn't give a shit
about women
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/318c4191f3850693?dmode=source
and then libelously accused me of lying:
================== begin excerpt
>And you said you don't give a shit about women:
nyioks is, of course, lying is sleazy ass off.
====================== end of excerpt from
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.abortion/msg/c10d3b5ea090cc18?dmode=source
In response, I reposted the article in which he
had said it, plus also reposting the url for it,
and Fischer deleted both
and pretended I hadn't posted the documentation.
All this, of course, can only be expected to make you a yet more
devoted ally of Fischer. Of course, if he were to do
such things to you, it's a safe bet that a massive flamewar
would again break out between the two of you,
so completely self-centered the two of you are.
Peter Nyikos
> On May 13, 11:09�am, "james g. keegan jr." <jgkee...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > In article <4beb76c4$0$1597$742ec...@news.sonic.net>,
> > �rfisc...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
> > > Once again, the perfessor expects everybody to just blindly accept
> > > whatever he writes, despite a long history of incompetence and
> > > dishonesty.
>
> > it is amusing, in a way, to watch the crackpot pretend perfesser destroy
> > himself in almost exactly the same way osprey did.
>
> Only your repeated massive deletia
my "deletia" are in articles i post, you nitwit. do you actually believe
that readers want to see your lies more than once? do you think most
readers even want to see them even once?
you continue to make limp excuses for your repeated acts of dishonesty.
and each one confirms in more minds that you simply cannot be a phd.
*smirk*
Nonsense. Look at the spread in times here--Osprey would never let so
much time pass between posts when he was really going strong, and
neither did the people he was going back-and-forth with.
Did you ever hear the expression, "It takes two to tango"?
> > On May 14, 5:29 pm, elizabeth <efran...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On May 13, 2:02 pm, pnyikos <nyik...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> > > > On May 12, 3:59 pm, elizabeth <efran...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > You're slipping with the sockpuppet, Oopsey.
You breezed past the following question. How IAAHish of you.
> > What do a pair [now become a trio] of attribution lines have to do
> > with what you are saying?
> You sure are obsessed about this ng
Far less than you and your allies Keegan and Fischer are--they have
been at it continuously for almost 20 years, while I have spent fewer
years in the abortion newsgroups than you have: 1992-1996 and November
2008- present, plus a couple of weeks in 1997.
> and some of the posters, just very
> Oopsey of you.
With that kind of logic, Keegan and Fischer are just very Oopsey too.
But nobody ever accused you of being a coherent thinker, eh?
> > YOU are really slipping, "elizabeth".
>
> > By the way, you've never publicly confirmed or denied that your name
> > is Elizabeth Frantes, have you?
>
> Don't care what you think, fauxNy,
Have you ever sought help for the way you avoid answering the simplest
questions?
> but you are posting like an
> Oopsey.
If Osprey doesn't return for another year, do you think you can keep
from mentioning him more than 500 more times during the next 12
months?
If you aren't sure of the answer, you may be more in need of
psychiatric help than anyone ever suspected.
Peter Nyikos
> > Peter Nyikos
>
>
> On May 14, 6:37�pm, elizabeth <efran...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > On May 14, 3:27�pm, pnyikos <nyik...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> > Yup. �Totally Oopseyed out here, fauxNy.
> > The manic rate of posting is a giveaway.
>
> Nonsense.
fact. your behavior has been noted by more than one regular.
Humphrey is also very IAAHish here, the way he breezes past the
evidence that "elizabeth" is either a fruitcake or else deleted
everything I wrote because she was afraid to confront ANYTHING I
wrote.
> > By the way, you've never publicly confirmed or denied that your name
> > is Elizabeth Frantes, have you?
>
> > Peter Nyikos
>
> So? It's none of your business.
> She's as real as I am,
No kidding, Dick Tracy. [You're old enough to know what that means,
don't you?]
> and I don't hide
> behind your tactics.
Who's hiding? You're the one who is afraid to tell people where he
works; you're even afraid to tell whether you found a new job after
being fired from Rice eight years ago plus change.
I haven't hidden from anyone who had the honesty to e-mail me at my
departmental e-mail address when confused by your false accusations of
me not being the real Professor Nyikos. But you are afraid that if you
ever got that honest, it might become a habit, eh?
By the way, have you visited that enormous new Planned Parenthood
facility in Houston yet? Rumor has it that only China has a bigger
abortion clinic than Houston PP does.
> --
> Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patr...@io.com) Houston, Texas
> www.prismnet.com/~patrick/aeros.php(TCI's 2009-10 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
> LAST GAME: San Antonio 3, Houston 2 (April 11)
> NEXT GAME: The 2010-11 opener, in October 2010
Peter Nyikos
Professor, Dept. of Mathematics
University of South Carolina
http://www.math.sc.edu/~nyikos/
How many articles have you posted in the last couple of days?
--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net
>> >> You're slipping with the sockpuppet, Oopsey.
>>
>> > What do a pair [now become a trio] of attribution lines have to do
>> > with what you are saying?
>>
>> > YOU are really slipping, "elizabeth".
>
>Humphrey is also very IAAHish here, the way he breezes past the
>evidence that "elizabeth" is either a fruitcake or else deleted
Whine: "But, but, look at what SHE did (pout)"
--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net
She can hold her own, as I've seen over the years.
>> > By the way, you've never publicly confirmed or denied that your name is
>> > Elizabeth Frantes, have you?
>>
>> > Peter Nyikos
>>
>> So? ?It's none of your business. ?She's as real as I am,
>
> No kidding, Dick Tracy. [You're old enough to know what that means,
> don't you?]
Obviously, as I'll be 55 at midnight next Wednesday night (CDT, of course).
>> and I don't hide behind your tactics.
>
> Who's hiding? You're the one who is afraid to tell people where he
> works; you're even afraid to tell whether you found a new job after
> being fired from Rice eight years ago plus change.
>
> I haven't hidden from anyone who had the honesty to e-mail me at my
> departmental e-mail address when confused by your false accusations of
> me not being the real Professor Nyikos. But you are afraid that if you
> ever got that honest, it might become a habit, eh?
>
> By the way, have you visited that enormous new Planned Parenthood
> facility in Houston yet? Rumor has it that only China has a bigger
> abortion clinic than Houston PP does.
The one across the future Alvin Freeway from UH? I haven't driven that
stretch of the Gulf Freeway in about 18 months. Your "rumor" has the
purchasing power of a late November 1923 Deutschmark, when you'd need 10 to
the 12th power to match a US dollar. Maybe Dale and I will go by my alma
mater and see what's been done since late 2008, 31 years after my
bachelorate.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (pat...@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.prismnet.com/~patrick/aeros.php (TCI's 2009-10 Houston Aeros) AA#2273