Bush heads to China. Kiss your jobs, pensions, futures goodby.
Eggs Ackley
brutus
"Eggs Ackley" <moen...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> Now, if you form a line, I'll dispense the soup.
If we do not find ways to export US products to China and successfully
market them we will all be speaking Chinese in a few years. Thank God
President Bush is headed over there!
Brutus
Torque wrench
the wage !!
The PhAnToM
Torque wrench wrote:
> Clinton already took care of the top $$ jobs, there in Mexico at 1/5
> the wage !!
That was the funniest thing about the Clinton Presidency. Everybody
still loved him, even though he was "gotten to" and ended up passing
the Republican, Tri-Laterialst, International Corporate Agenda. I bet
he loved it the first time they took him to Bohemian Grove.
Don Homuth
wrote:
>
>"Eggs Ackley" <moen...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>news:1132012568.6...@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> Now, if you form a line, I'll dispense the soup.
>
>If we do not find ways to export US products to China and successfully
>market them we will all be speaking Chinese in a few years.
They invented mercantilism -- the precursor to capitalism. And
they're coming right along on that as well.
> Thank God
God isn't sending Dubya anywhere.
>President Bush is headed over there!
Might as well. He's not doing so good over here at the moment.
Joseph Welch
"brutus" <bru...@thebrute.com> wrote in message
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> If we do not find ways to export US products to China and successfully
> market them we will all be speaking Chinese in a few years. Thank God
> President Bush is headed over there!
He's probably going over to visit some of the thousands of American jobs
he's helped export.
--
JW
***************
"You've done enough. Have you no sense of decency, sir, at long last? Have
you left no sense of decency?"
http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/welch-mccarthy.html
brutus
"Joseph Welch" <seattled...@freewebspace.com> wrote in message
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>
> "brutus" <bru...@thebrute.com> wrote in message
> news:RKaef.761$jI5...@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>
>> If we do not find ways to export US products to China and successfully
>> market them we will all be speaking Chinese in a few years. Thank God
>> President Bush is headed over there!
>
> He's probably going over to visit some of the thousands of American jobs
> he's helped export.
>
> --
> JW
Which jobs would those be?
Brutus
Bob Tiernan
> They invented mercantilism -- the precursor to capitalism.
A precursor in many ways, but a very different system
just the same. Unlike capitalism, mercantalism is
a much less free system. It fit right in there with
monarchical rule in that privilege was part of that
system (where do you think the word "monopoly"
came from?
Bob T
Sancho Panza
"Joseph Welch" <seattled...@freewebspace.com> wrote in message
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>
> news:RKaef.761$jI5...@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>
> > If we do not find ways to export US products to China and successfully
> > market them we will all be speaking Chinese in a few years. Thank God
> > President Bush is headed over there!
>
> He's probably going over to visit some of the thousands of American jobs
> he's helped export.
Maybe he can get retrieve some of the nuclear technology secrets that were
given away (sold?) in the 90's.
Lobby Dosser
Joseph Welch
>> He's probably going over to visit some of the thousands of American jobs
>> he's helped export.
> Which jobs would those be?
These:
http://www.freep.com/news/nw/china27_20040427.htm
And these:
http://www.shrm.org/hrmagazine/articles/0404/0404covstory.asp
And these:
http://www.stoptheftaa.org/artman/publish/article_279.shtml
Anything else I can do for you, lazy-ass?
Joseph Welch
"Sancho Panza" <otter...@xhotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> He's probably going over to visit some of the thousands of American jobs
>> he's helped export.
>
> Maybe he can get retrieve some of the nuclear technology secrets that were
> given away (sold?) in the 90's.
What were those?
Still pushing that lie, eh Bushie?
torresD
mr_antone
Reagan was President in the 90's?
Do tell.
mr_antone
Eric da Red
Sadly, he's likely to come back.
cor
We are exporting lots of stuff to China: we export garbage, scrap metal and
scrap paper and cardboard.
directory
> Anything else I can do for you, lazy-ass?
Go ram an icepick in yer forehead!
directory
Stupid bastard, tell the truth for once:
http://usinfo.state.gov/eap/Archive/2005/Mar/03-517799.html
According to Commerce Department numbers, much of what the United States
exports to China are machines and machine parts, especially computer
components and integrated circuits. Chinese companies assemble the
parts into computers, televisions, telephones, toys and other office
machines and consumer electronics and ship those back to the United
States as well as to third countries.
The United States also sells China land-intensive crops such as
soybeans, capital-intensive technology such as commercial aircraft and
materials such as scrap metal, the department says.
http://www.bis.doc.gov/News/2005/DOCSecretary.htm
China is among the fastest growing major overseas markets for U.S.
manufactured goods. U.S. exports of computers, electrical equipment and
other electronic products to China increased by 20 percent between 2002
and 2003, topping $7 billion. Chemicals exports grew 24 percent to $3.7
billion over the same period.
Chinese consumers are growing up with brands as familiar to us as Coke,
Pepsi, Wrigley, Motorola, and Pantene shampoo. From a global
perspective, China’s growth is also paying dividends. The global economy
is driven by the dynamic growth in China and the U.S.
brutus
>
> "brutus" <bru...@thebrute.com> wrote in message
> news:vycef.1650$s14...@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>
>>> He's probably going over to visit some of the thousands of American jobs
>>> he's helped export.
>
>> Which jobs would those be?
>
> These:
>
> http://www.freep.com/news/nw/china27_20040427.htm
>
> And these:
>
> http://www.shrm.org/hrmagazine/articles/0404/0404covstory.asp
>
> And these:
>
> http://www.stoptheftaa.org/artman/publish/article_279.shtml
>
> Anything else I can do for you, lazy-ass?
>
> --
> JW
Wow, those are really mainstream cites! BTW, which administration approved
NAFTA? Whose gave China the Normal Trade Relations status? Wasn't it your
hero, Bill Clinton?
Brutus
cor
directory wrote:
>
...
> > We are exporting lots of stuff to China: we export garbage, scrap metal and
> > scrap paper and cardboard.
>
> Stupid bastard, tell the truth for once:
>
> http://usinfo.state.gov/eap/Archive/2005/Mar/03-517799.html
>
> According to Commerce Department numbers, much of what the United States
> exports to China are machines and machine parts, especially computer
> components and integrated circuits.
Yea, but most is not new, just part of the garbage we export to China.
> Chinese companies assemble the
> parts into computers, televisions, telephones, toys and other office
> machines and consumer electronics and ship those back to the United
> States as well as to third countries.
>
hahahahahaha!
When was the last time you saw a computer chip "made in the USA"?
> The United States also sells China land-intensive crops such as
> soybeans, capital-intensive technology such as commercial aircraft and
> materials such as scrap metal, the department says.
you read it? "materials such as scrap metal"
Yes we sold them a few airplanes. How else are they going to learn to copy
the darn things?
>
> http://www.bis.doc.gov/News/2005/DOCSecretary.htm
>
> China is among the fastest growing major overseas markets for U.S.
> manufactured goods. U.S. exports of computers, electrical equipment and
> other electronic products to China increased by 20 percent between 2002
> and 2003, topping $7 billion. Chemicals exports grew 24 percent to $3.7
> billion over the same period.
>
> Chinese consumers are growing up with brands as familiar to us as Coke,
> Pepsi, Wrigley, Motorola, and Pantene shampoo. From a global
hahahahahaha
Because they don't know how to make sweet colored water, right?
brutus
>
> "Sancho Panza" <otter...@xhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:437971a1$0$143$ad36...@news.netcarrier.net...
>
>>> He's probably going over to visit some of the thousands of American jobs
>>> he's helped export.
>>
>> Maybe he can get retrieve some of the nuclear technology secrets that
>> were
>> given away (sold?) in the 90's.
>
> What were those?
http://www.cnn.com/US/9905/25/cox.report.04/
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The ranking Democrat on the House committee that wrote
a scathing report on government failures to prevent China's theft of U.S.
nuclear weapons technology described the situation on Tuesday as "one of the
worst (counterintelligence) failures in the nation's history."
>
> Still pushing that lie, eh Bushie?
>
> --
> JW
Brutus
directory
>
> directory wrote:
>
> ...
>
>>>We are exporting lots of stuff to China: we export garbage, scrap metal and
>>>scrap paper and cardboard.
>>
>>Stupid bastard, tell the truth for once:
>>
>>http://usinfo.state.gov/eap/Archive/2005/Mar/03-517799.html
>>
>>According to Commerce Department numbers, much of what the United States
>>exports to China are machines and machine parts, especially computer
>>components and integrated circuits.
>
>
> Yea, but most is not new,
BULLSHIT!
You stupid fuck, they even bought IBM's PC business, it's now called Lenovo.
Ever hear of that fuckwit???
http://www.internetnews.com/ent-news/article.php/3501726
May 2, 2005
China's Lenovo Takes Over IBM PCs
By Michael Singer
The Chinese computer company now in charge of IBM's legendary PC
business said it will waste no time in proving itself in the global
marketplace.
In a statement released Sunday, Lenovo Group said it has completed its
$1.25 billion acquisition of IBM's (Quote, Chart) "Think" brand,
including its ThinkPad laptops, ThinkCentre desktop PCs, ThinkVantage
software tools and ThinkVision monitors.
While Lenovo commands one-third of the Chinese marketplace, it is now
considered third in the worldwide PC business behind market leader Dell
(Quote, Chart) and HP (Quote, Chart).
>>Chinese companies assemble the
>>parts into computers, televisions, telephones, toys and other office
>>machines and consumer electronics and ship those back to the United
>>States as well as to third countries.
>>
>
>
> hahahahahaha!
> When was the last time you saw a computer chip "made in the USA"?
Does the name Micron mean anything to you????
Or Intel?
http://news.softpedia.com/news/New-65-nano-Intel-chips-made-in-USA-11473.shtml
Intel began manufacturing chips using the 65 nanometer process at a
production site in Arizona, USA. This is the second factory in USA that
produces this kind of chips.
The company announced in October that it began shipping Presler, a
dual-core processor made in the 65 nanometer process, to the PC
manufacturers. These chips are manufactured at a D1D factory in Oregon,
USA. With the chips produced in the Arizona factory, the volume of 65nm
chips on the market will substantially rise.
>>The United States also sells China land-intensive crops such as
>>soybeans, capital-intensive technology such as commercial aircraft and
>>materials such as scrap metal, the department says.
>
>
>
> you read it? "materials such as scrap metal"
> Yes we sold them a few airplanes. How else are they going to learn to copy
> the darn things?
You're such a fucking lying piece of shit!
>>http://www.bis.doc.gov/News/2005/DOCSecretary.htm
>>
>>China is among the fastest growing major overseas markets for U.S.
>>manufactured goods. U.S. exports of computers, electrical equipment and
>>other electronic products to China increased by 20 percent between 2002
>>and 2003, topping $7 billion. Chemicals exports grew 24 percent to $3.7
>>billion over the same period.
>>
>>Chinese consumers are growing up with brands as familiar to us as Coke,
>>Pepsi, Wrigley, Motorola, and Pantene shampoo. From a global
>
>
>
> hahahahahaha
> Because they don't know how to make sweet colored water, right?
Mbwhahahahaa!!!
For the same reason they groove on KFC you dumbass!
US culture is hip - just ask the Japanese!
Ya know what cur, you better stick to cut and paste op-ed leftist
propaganda.
When it comes to actually _arguing_ your points you don't stand a
snowball's chance in Hell.
Iown you cur-dog, now go piss up a rope you lying socialist fuckoff!
mr_antone
wrote:
Butus is lying. China's theft of US nuclear weapons technology
occurred over decades.
But then again being a RW loon like his buddy sancho, it would be no
surprise if they did believe Clinton was President for decades.
mr_antone
directory
>>http://www.cnn.com/US/9905/25/cox.report.04/
>>WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The ranking Democrat on the House committee that wrote
>>a scathing report on government failures to prevent China's theft of U.S.
>>nuclear weapons technology described the situation on Tuesday as "one of the
>>worst (counterintelligence) failures in the nation's history."
>>
>>
>>>Still pushing that lie, eh Bushie?
>>>
>>>--
>
>
> Butus is lying. China's theft of US nuclear weapons technology
> occurred over decades.
YOU are the liar antone, you worthless shitwad!
http://www.senate.gov/~rpc/releases/1999/df031299.htm
China's Theft of U.S. Nuclear Secrets
The Public Record
"China Stole Nuclear Secrets from Los Alamos, U.S. Officials Say,"
headlined the New York Times on March 6, 1999. What followed was an
alarming story cataloging how a scientist in a government laboratory
stole U.S. secrets allowing the People's Republic of China to develop
more advanced compact nuclear weapons.
Equally disturbing was the article's description of the
Administration response being "marked by delays, inaction and skepticism
-- even though senior intelligence officials often regarded it as one of
the most damaging spy cases in recent history."
Yet this was not the first report of this incident of espionage, or
indeed of other like incidents involving China. China's acquisition of
secret design information about the W-88 warhead -- the most advanced
nuclear warhead in the U.S. arsenal -- was first reported by the Wall
Street Journal on January 7, 1999. On February 17, 1999, the Washington
Post also published an article on this critical national security matter.
Senator Richard Shelby (R-AL), Chairman of the Senate Select
Committee on Intelligence, has announced that his Committee will hold
closed hearings starting Wednesday, March 17, with Energy Secretary Bill
Richardson and FBI Director Louis Freeh as the first witnesses.
What follows is a compilation of public reporting about Chinese
espionage efforts at U.S. nuclear labs, which assert that Beijing's
acquisition of secret data on the W-88 warhead is the most serious loss
resulting from China's 20-year espionage effort at U.S. nuclear labs
[See New York Times, 3/6/99; Wall Street Journal, 1/7/99; Washington
Post, 2/17/99 and 3/9/99.]
* As previously described, the W-88 is the United States' most
advanced miniature nuclear warhead; it sits atop the Trident II
Submarine Launched Ballistic Missile (SLBM). China's acquisition of this
information is believed to have greatly reduced the time it took Beijing
to develop its first miniaturized nuclear device.
* Although China's acquisition of information on the warhead is
believed to have occurred in the mid-1980's, the espionage was not
detected until 1995, when American experts analyzing Chinese nuclear
test results found similarities to the W-88.
* According to the March 6 New York Times: in April 1995,
"senior nuclear weapons experts at Los Alamos, poring over data from the
most recent Chinese underground tests, had detected eerie similarities
between the latest Chinese and U.S. bomb designs. From what they could
tell, Beijing was testing a smaller and more lethal nuclear device
configured remarkably like the W-88."
* Two months later, the CIA reportedly acquired what appeared
to be a Chinese government document from 1988 describing that country's
nuclear weapons program. According to the Times, this document
"specifically mentioned the W-88 and described some of the warhead's key
design features."
* In late 1995 or early 1996, the head of the Department of
Energy's (DOE) intelligence group took this information to the FBI. A
team of FBI agents and Energy Department officials reportedly traveled
to the three weapons labs and reviewed travel and work records of lab
scientists who had access to the relevant technology. The team narrowed
its focus to five possible suspects, including Wen Ho Lee, a
Chinese-American computer scientist at the Los Alamos National
Laboratory where the W-88 had been designed. The New York Times quotes
an unnamed U.S. official as saying Lee "stuck out like a sore thumb."
* In April 1996, DOE reportedly briefed CIA officials and
National Security Advisor Sandy Berger for the first time on the theft
of W-88 information.
* By mid-1996, the FBI had opened a formal criminal
investigation into the matter, but assigned few resources to the case
and made little progress for about a year. In April 1997, however, the
FBI did issue a report on improving security at the DOE labs.
* DOE intelligence officials again briefed Sandy Berger in July
1997, and according to the New York Times told him that in addition to
the loss of information about the W-88, "there was evidence of several
other Chinese espionage operations that were still under way inside the
weapons labs." Berger reportedly first briefed President Clinton on the
subject at this time and kept him updated over the next few months.
Competing Intelligence Assessments
* According to the New York Times, in 1997 the White House
requested a CIA analysis of how China had developed its smaller nuclear
warheads. "The areas of agreement between DOE and CIA were that China
definitely benefitted from access to U.S. nuclear weapons information
that was obtained from open sources, conversations with DOE scientists
in the United States and China, and espionage," according to an unnamed
U.S. official cited by the Times.
* The differences in analysis between the two agencies were
summed up by a U.S. official quoted in the Times article as follows:
While DOE attributed China's development of a new nuclear warhead solely
to the acquisition of U.S. information, the CIA reportedly believed that
in addition to data acquired from espionage in the United States, the
Chinese benefitted from Russian assistance and their own indigenous efforts.
Criminal Investigation
* According to the New York Times, a little over a year after
it opened a formal investigation, the FBI reportedly concluded it did
not have enough evidence to arrest the suspect at Los Alamos and also
did not have sufficient evidence to obtain a secret wiretap. The FBI
investigation was hampered by the fact that the espionage had taken
place about 10 years earlier, and investigators were unable to uncover
indications of any activity the suspect had taken on behalf of the
Chinese in the intervening decade.
* Despite being told by FBI Director Freeh in September 1997
that the suspect did not need to remain in his sensitive post in order
for the Bureau to continue to monitor his activities, DOE allowed the
suspect to keep his job and retain his security clearances for more than
a year.
* The suspect was given polygraph tests by DOE last December
and by the FBI last month and was found to be deceptive. He has refused
to cooperate with the FBI investigation. As a result, Energy Secretary
Richardson recommended that the suspect, who is a contract employee to
the University of California (which operates the Los Alamos Lab) be
fired. The employee was terminated on Monday March 8, 1999.
Administration Moves to Tighten Lab Security
* Nearly two years after Sandy Berger was first briefed on the
issue, the National Security Council began to draft a new
counterintelligence program for the labs, and President Clinton signed
the order mandating the new measure in February 1998. In April of that
year, a former FBI counterintelligence agent, Ed Curran, was named to
run a more vigorous counterintelligence office at DOE headquarters.
* Last fall, shortly after taking over as Energy Secretary,
Bill Richardson was briefed on the problem and according to the Times,
quickly reinstated background checks on all foreign visitors, a move
recommended 17 months earlier by the FBI. He reportedly also doubled the
counterintelligence budget and placed more FBI counterintelligence
experts at the labs.
Other Cases of Chinese Espionage at DOE Labs
According to the Wall Street Journal, the W-88 case is the third
major Chinese espionage effort uncovered at DOE labs over the last two
decades.
* In January 1999, the Journal reported that in the late
1970's, a Taiwan-born American scientist working at the Lawrence
Livermore laboratory "passed classified information to Beijing about the
U.S. neutron-bomb program. A decade later, China tested a neutron
warhead, but hasn't deployed one. The scientist was fired but never
arrested due to a lack of hard evidence."
* The same article noted that in the mid-1980's, Peter Lee,
another Taiwan-born American scientist working at Los Alamos "passed
classified information to China about U.S. laser technology. The lasers,
according to officials, can be used to simulate nuclear explosions for
either weapons design or stockpile maintenance." As part of a
plea-bargain agreement, Mr. Lee was sentenced last year to a year in a
halfway house.
Don Homuth
Ever figure that Just Perhaps economic systems took time to evolve,
BT?
From barter to intermediated barter, for example.
Bill Shatzer
Well, not from "monarchy" certainly.
Still, do you suppose that monopolies cannot exist under capitalism?
Indeed, monopolies - and their near kin, oligopolies - are sorta
the inevitable result of the unbridled laissez-faire capitalism you
espouse.
Peace and justice,
--
"Cave ab homine unius libri"
mr_antone
>mr_antone wrote:
>
>>>http://www.cnn.com/US/9905/25/cox.report.04/
>>>WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The ranking Democrat on the House committee that wrote
>>>a scathing report on government failures to prevent China's theft of U.S.
>>>nuclear weapons technology described the situation on Tuesday as "one of the
>>>worst (counterintelligence) failures in the nation's history."
>>>
>>>
>>>>Still pushing that lie, eh Bushie?
>>>>
>>>>--
>>
>>
>> Butus is lying. China's theft of US nuclear weapons technology
>> occurred over decades.
>
>
>YOU are the liar antone, you worthless shitwad!
Gee yellowpages, do you read what you post?
Here's a snippet:
......................................................................................................
* Although China's acquisition of information on the warhead is
believed to have occurred in the mid-1980's, the espionage was not
detected until 1995, when American experts analyzing Chinese nuclear
test results found similarities to the W-88.
......................................................................................................
See those words "mid-1980's"?
Now go ask you Mommy what "mid-1980's" means and ask her what
"decades" mean.
Then ask your Mommy why all those people are laughing at you.
mr_antone
Joseph Welch
"directory" <n...@dll.run> wrote in message
news:gEoef.103062$Ur3....@fe01.news.easynews.com...
> Go ram an icepick in yer forehead!
Ah, another one for my list.
Thanks, Spammy!
I see you're sticking true to your commitment to turn your back on Jesus
Christ. You hang in there, ya hear?
Joseph Welch
> Wow, those are really mainstream cites!
You want "mainstream" cites? Which ones would work for you?
Was there something in any of them that you disagreed with?
> BTW, which administration approved NAFTA?
Both the Clinton and Bush administration have endorsed and approved NAFTA.
You realize that China isn't part of North America, right?
> Whose gave China the Normal Trade Relations status?
Nixon.
> Wasn't it your hero, Bill Clinton?
Clinton is no hero of mine, and Bush as well as several past Presidents have
continued to approve China's MFN status.
You got a point there, Skippy?
You realize who is President NOW, right you stupid fuck?
You asked for cites and you got 'em - and you want to bitch that they were
accurate?
Sheesh, what a jackass.
Joseph Welch
>>> Maybe he can get retrieve some of the nuclear technology secrets that
>>> were given away (sold?) in the 90's.
>>
>> What were those?
>
> http://www.cnn.com/US/9905/25/cox.report.04/
> WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The ranking Democrat on the House committee that wrote
> a scathing report on government failures to prevent China's theft of U.S.
> nuclear weapons technology described the situation on Tuesday as "one of
> the worst (counterintelligence) failures in the nation's history."
Did you bother reading the words of the very cite you provided you fucking
dipshit?
Do you know what the word "theft" means you lying fuck?
The PhAnToM
Joseph Welch wrote:
> "brutus" <bru...@thebrute.com> wrote in message
> news:Rlpef.2034$c27....@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>
> >>> Maybe he can get retrieve some of the nuclear technology secrets that
> >>> were given away (sold?) in the 90's.
> >>
> >> What were those?
> >
> > http://www.cnn.com/US/9905/25/cox.report.04/
> > WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The ranking Democrat on the House committee that wrote
> > a scathing report on government failures to prevent China's theft of U.S.
> > nuclear weapons technology described the situation on Tuesday as "one of
> > the worst (counterintelligence) failures in the nation's history."
>
> Did you bother reading the words of the very cite you provided you fucking
> dipshit?
>
> Do you know what the word "theft" means you lying fuck?
Unlike you, he read and comprehended the entire article. I suppose that
the concept of security is illusory in your world, too, eh?
directory
> On Tue, 15 Nov 2005 18:20:10 GMT, directory <n...@dll.run> wrote:
>
>
>>mr_antone wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>http://www.cnn.com/US/9905/25/cox.report.04/
>>>>WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The ranking Democrat on the House committee that wrote
>>>>a scathing report on government failures to prevent China's theft of U.S.
>>>>nuclear weapons technology described the situation on Tuesday as "one of the
>>>>worst (counterintelligence) failures in the nation's history."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Still pushing that lie, eh Bushie?
>>>>>
>>>>>--
>>>
>>>
>>>Butus is lying. China's theft of US nuclear weapons technology
>>>occurred over decades.
>>
>>
>>YOU are the liar antone, you worthless shitwad!
>
>
> Gee yellowpages, do you read what you post?
> Here's a snippet:
Yes, you remmeber the fire at Los Alamos don't you?
You know...the one started by an NP park superintendent that burned
through the town becasue he started a "controled burn" in 35+ mph winds!
So coincidental, eh?
Hoo boy, we no find much evidence of hard drives when lab and town
evacuated, eh?
>> * In late 1995 or early 1996, the head of the Department of
>>Energy's (DOE) intelligence group took this information to the FBI. A
>>team of FBI agents and Energy Department officials reportedly traveled
>>to the three weapons labs and reviewed travel and work records of lab
>>scientists who had access to the relevant technology. The team narrowed
>>its focus to five possible suspects, including Wen Ho Lee, a
>>Chinese-American computer scientist at the Los Alamos National
>>Laboratory where the W-88 had been designed. The New York Times quotes
>>an unnamed U.S. official as saying Lee "stuck out like a sore thumb."
>>
>> * In April 1996, DOE reportedly briefed CIA officials and
>>National Security Advisor Sandy Berger for the first time on the theft
>>of W-88 information.
>>
>> * By mid-1996, the FBI had opened a formal criminal
>>investigation into the matter, but assigned few resources to the case
>>and made little progress for about a year. In April 1997, however, the
>>FBI did issue a report on improving security at the DOE labs.
>>
>> * DOE intelligence officials again briefed Sandy Berger in July
>>1997, and according to the New York Times told him that in addition to
>>the loss of information about the W-88, "there was evidence of several
>>other Chinese espionage operations that were still under way inside the
>>weapons labs." Berger reportedly first briefed President Clinton on the
>>subject at this time and kept him updated over the next few months.
And then the investigation goes into Sandy Burglar's hands?
ROTFLAMO!
And Bill did just what about it?
Wake up antone, you moron!
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2003/9/29/25139.shtml
Newly declassified documents show that President Bill Clinton personally
approved the transfer to China of advanced space technology that can be
used for nuclear combat.
The documents show that in 1996 Clinton approved the export of radiation
hardened chip sets to China. The specialized chips are necessary for
fighting a nuclear war.
"Waivers may be granted upon a national interest determination," states
a Commerce Department document titled "U.S. Sanctions on China."
"The President has approved a series of satellite related waivers in
recent months, most recently in November, 1996 for export of radiation
hardened chip sets for a Chinese meteorological satellite," noted the
Commerce Department documents.
These special computer chips are designed to function while being
bombarded by intense radiation. Radiation hardened chips are considered
critical for atomic warfare and are required by advanced nuclear tipped
missiles.
Judicial Watch obtained the documents through the Freedom of Information
Act, a Washington-based political watchdog group.
Several documents were withheld from release by the U.S. Commerce
Department for commercial and personal privacy exemptions, but none of
the documents were withheld for national security reasons. Judicial
Watch is expected to appeal the withholdings.
Decade of Betrayal
U.S. intelligence sources stated that the newly released documents
illustrate the extent to which the Clinton White House placed trade –
and trade with China specifically – above national security.
"In all likelihood we will be glowing in the dark before we discover the
true extent of the Clinton decade of betrayal," stated Rick Fisher,
Asian Security Fellow at the Center for Security Policy.
"If it was indeed intended for a new PRC weather satellite, then it is
possible that it was used for their new polar orbit weather satellites.
This is significant because the Chinese themselves acknowledge that
their polar orbit weather satellites directly contribute to their
long-range missile targeting capability. This becomes even more
important for their new smaller but more accurate warheads, used on
their new DF-31, DF-31A, DF-5 Mod2 and JL-2 missiles. If they encounter
significant weather, warhead accuracy degrades, reducing their utility,"
stated Fisher.
"Inasmuch as similar U.S. military weather satellites perform the same
missions, the Clinton Administration had to have known they were
assisting a PLA strategic military capability," concluded Fisher.
In addition, the Chinese military is clearly interested in acquiring
advanced radiation hardened computer chips for its strategic nuclear
arsenal.
U.S. Chips for PRC Nukes
Currently, China has only liquid fueled, long-range missiles, and the
majority of them are based inside underground silos. These long-range
rockets are reported to be "bore-sighted" – meaning the underground
silos are aimed directly at target cities inside the United States.
The Chinese army is now attempting to shift its strategic nuclear
arsenal to a solid-fuel "launch on command" capability. These new
missiles are rail- and road-mobile and require sophisticated electronic
guidance systems to accurately strike their intended targets.
As part of this upgrade, the Chinese army is also modifying its nuclear
warhead designs to arm new survivable missiles such as the DF-31 and
JL-2. Chinese engineers are planning to equip these new missiles with
MIRV technology, allowing each missile to carry multiple nuclear warheads.
Again, the U.S. radiation hardened computer chip technology is a logical
addition to the reconfiguration and upgrade of Chinese nuclear weapons.
Stolen U.S. Chips
Another critical element of the Clinton-supplied waiver is the fact that
it took place during an investigation of Chinese espionage into missing
U.S. radiation hardened satellite chips.
In February 1996, a Chinese Long March rocket carrying a Loral Intelsat
satellite failed and crashed on lift-off. The Loral Intelsat payload was
badly damaged. The Chinese intended to launch the Loral satellite into
deep space as they had been paid to do by Loral CEO Bernard Schwartz.
However, fate took a twisted path, and so did the Chinese rocket. The
Long March rocket failed on launch and crashed into a nearby Chinese
village, killing over 200 innocent civilians. The failure of the Long
March allowed the U.S. to recover the sealed satellite guidance box,
which revealed the control board of radiation-hardened chips was missing.
The missing board from the Loral Intelsat satellite is no mystery. It
quickly became obvious that Chinese engineers removed the special
electronics and kept the board for examination. The stolen Loral
electronics consist of radiation hardened, encrypted telemetry chips,
stored in a secure flight control box similar to those found on
airliners. The NSA changed all U.S. satellite codes as a result of the
stolen Loral chips, costing American taxpayers millions of dollars.
1996 Illegal Campaign Donations
Another factor involved in the November 1996 waiver issued by
then-President Clinton is the fact that illegal money entered the U.S.
elections from the Chinese army. The money was donated to the DNC from a
variety of sources including convicted Chinagate figures John Huang,
Charlie "Yah-Lin" Trie and Johnny Chung.
The 1996 Clinton-Gore campaign readily accepted much of the money from
the Chinese army sources without question, and in some cases took these
donations in cash. The allegations of Chinese espionage and illegal
campaign donations were never investigated properly.
The successful effort by China to obtain U.S. microchip technology
included espionage, sabotage and perhaps bribery. The red intelligence
windfall freed the Chinese army to more accurately target American
cities with atomic weapons using advanced U.S technology.
The legacy that President Clinton left for the 21st century is a modern
Chinese army equipped for global nuclear war.
directory
> "directory" <n...@dll.run> wrote in message
> news:gEoef.103062$Ur3....@fe01.news.easynews.com...
>
>
>>Go ram an icepick in yer forehead!
>
>
> Ah, another one for my list.
<1110261564.95e417967d9a56637c0c29a8c6ace4c7@meganetnews2>
"Jesus taught that we were to love one another as well. I really dig
that about Jesus....
I'm sure I have a better house than you, a better job than you, a
better family than you, and a better looking wife to fuck. Being me
isn't such a bad thing....
In what way am I "hypocritical"?
directory
The PhAnToM
In addition, think of a few hundred million cell phone users, and the
components therein. PDAs, flash players (that's Ipods, for the
technically challenged), cameras, etc... and so forth.
directory
Cur isn't just ignorant, he's a liar and a scumball to boot!
Joseph Welch
"directory" <n...@dll.run> wrote in message
> "Jesus taught that we were to love one another as well. I really dig
> that about Jesus....
> I'm sure I have a better house than you, a better job than you, a
> better family than you, and a better looking wife to fuck. Being me
> isn't such a bad thing....
>
> In what way am I "hypocritical"?
Uh-huh. Those are my words and I stand by them.
Is there something you wanted to say, Spammy?
Joseph Welch
"The PhAnToM" <victorth...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1132096921....@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>> Do you know what the word "theft" means you lying fuck?
>
> Unlike you, he read and comprehended the entire article. I suppose that
> the concept of security is illusory in your world, too, eh?
Then maybe you can explain how he got from "given away (sold?) to STOLEN you
stupid illiterate shit.
Joseph Welch
"directory" <n...@dll.run> wrote in message
> "Jesus taught that we were to love one another as well. I really dig
> that about Jesus....
> I'm sure I have a better house than you, a better job than you, a
> better family than you, and a better looking wife to fuck. Being me
> isn't such a bad thing....
>
> In what way am I "hypocritical"?
Uh-huh. Those are my words and I stand by them.
Was there something you wanted to say, Spammy?
directory
> Uh-huh.
<1110261564.95e417967d9a56637c0c29a8c6ace4c7@meganetnews2>
directory
> "directory" <n...@dll.run> wrote in message
> news:UCvef.123740$xl1....@fe03.news.easynews.com...
>
>
>>"Jesus taught that we were to love one another as well. I really dig
>>that about Jesus....
>>I'm sure I have a better house than you, a better job than you, a
>>better family than you, and a better looking wife to fuck. Being me
>>isn't such a bad thing....
>>
>>In what way am I "hypocritical"?
>
>
> Uh-huh.
That's why you creep out your fellow liberals, many of whom are
_happily_ married...
<1110261564.95e417967d9a56637c0c29a8c6ace4c7@meganetnews2>
Joseph Welch
"directory" <n...@dll.run> wrote in message
> "Jesus taught that we were to love one another as well. I really dig
> that about Jesus....
> I'm sure I have a better house than you, a better job than you, a
> better family than you, and a better looking wife to fuck. Being me
> isn't such a bad thing....
>
> In what way am I "hypocritical"?
Uh-huh. Those are my words and I stand by them.
Did you have something to say, Spammy?
Joseph Welch
"directory" <n...@dll.run> wrote in message
> That's why you creep out your fellow liberals, many of whom are _happily_
> married...
Dude, what are you talking about?
Do YOU even know?
directory
> "directory" <n...@dll.run> wrote in message
> news:yezef.116827$Ur3....@fe01.news.easynews.com...
>
>
>>"Jesus taught that we were to love one another as well. I really dig
>>that about Jesus....
>>I'm sure I have a better house than you, a better job than you, a
>>better family than you, and a better looking wife to fuck. Being me
>>isn't such a bad thing....
>>
>>In what way am I "hypocritical"?
>
>
directory
> "directory" <n...@dll.run> wrote in message
> news:gfzef.116839$Ur3....@fe01.news.easynews.com...
>
>
>>That's why you creep out your fellow liberals, many of whom are _happily_
>>married...
>
>
> Dude,
<1110261564.95e417967d9a56637c0c29a8c6ace4c7@meganetnews2>
Joseph Welch
"directory" <n...@dll.run> wrote in message
How Spammy is hypocritical (it's also evidence that he has turned his back
on Jesus Christ and willfully disobeys God):
"You are a crass, coarse, shallow person."
-Spammy aka 'directory'
Here's a few more from Spammy aka 'directory':
********************************
"Drop fucking dead you sack of shit!"
"You're worthless loathesome TRASH willie, fuck you straight to HELL!"
"Piss off you inverted pyramid builder."
"FUCK Molly Ivins, and FUCK YOU TOO!!!!!
"LMAO... This one isn't going to fight amongst anything outside of
usenet..."
"I thought I told you to STFU.. you ignorant bastard.. "
"SENILE OLD FART! "
"FUCK YOU!!!! KISS MY ASS!!!!!"
"You're SCUM!"
"You're a fucking liar!"
"Fuck him, and FUCK you too!"
"You really are a fucking idiot!"
"Are you the biggest moron on the planet???"
"Drop fucking dead you scumsucker."
"Aw, did I leave out beef-witted, bovine blather-head?"
"Drop fucking dead."
"Fuck you to HELL you worthless NAZI BASTARD! "
"that's not too hard even for a ringworm parasite like you to grasp... "
"Have a miserable one you worthless pinko!"
"DROP FUCKING DEAD YOU OREGON SLIMEBALL!"
"No...you ARE a shit!"
"FUCK YOU BABY DIAPER PAIL"
"Are you just a damned LIAR or fucking STUPID?"
"You're a fucking worthless meat stack - begone!"
"Now drop fucking dead, mmm'k?"
"fuck you to HELL Mikey!"
"You're such an asshole!"
"Godwin's law - drop fucking dead!"
"Yer a fucking TRAITOR!"
"You're a fucking psychotic sack of shit!"
"You're fucking trash."
"You need to get cancer and die a terrible slow death you damned traitor."
"shut yer fat fucking piehole you scumsucking ghoul!"
"you're one big fucking sphincter-head!"
"There is no argument assfuck"
"Drop fucking dead you scumsucking bastard!"
"How'd you like yer lips ripped off shitwad?"
"FUCK YOU!"
"Satanic fuckwit - drop dead."
"Fuck you too asshle!" (sic)
"You're dog crap"
"FUCK YOU TO HELL!!!"
"Drop dead cunt."
"You haven't gotten a thing from day one you fucking idiot!"
"You better take the gas scumboy!"
"You vile un-American scum, I hope you fucking choke to death on your own
bile!"
"You don't think at all, fucking drop dead."
"You are SHIT!"
"Why don't you shut the fuck up you pompous traitor son of a bitch!"
"YOu are pathetic, drop dead."
"Drop dead soon, die and die again."
"Drop dead cunt!"
"You couldn't "bitch slap" a fat pregnant dog Dave, you fucking cur-humping
liberal lackwit!"
"Why don't you go fuck a dog you cur."
Go ram an icepick in yer forehead!
You fucking biased cunt.
Go stick a Macanudo up yer wife's twat you piece of shit!
Uh, go fuck your "better looking wife" you creep.
*************************
Whew! That was FUN!
THANK YOU, SPAMMY!
Joseph Welch
"directory" <n...@dll.run> wrote in message
********************************
"SENILE OLD FART! "
"You're SCUM!"
"Drop fucking dead."
"No...you ARE a shit!"
"Yer a fucking TRAITOR!"
"You're fucking trash."
"FUCK YOU!"
"You're dog crap"
"FUCK YOU TO HELL!!!"
"Drop dead cunt."
"You are SHIT!"
"Drop dead cunt!"
Go ram an icepick in yer forehead!
You fucking biased cunt.
Go stick a Macanudo up yer wife's twat you piece of shit!
Uh, go fuck your "better looking wife" you creep.
*************************
Whew! That was FUN!
THANK YOU, SPAMMY!
--
directory
> Whew! That was FUN!
directory
> Whew! That was FUN!
Joseph Welch
"directory" <n...@dll.run> wrote in message
How is Spammy/directory a hypocrite (and has turned his back on Jesus Christ
and willfully disobeys God)?
Let me count they ways.
Quotes from Spammy:
Joseph Welch
"directory" <n...@dll.run> wrote in message
How is Spammy/directory a hypocrite (and has turned his back on Jesus Christ
and willfully disobeys God)?
Let me count they ways.
Quotes from Spammy:
********************************
mr_antone
>mr_antone wrote:
>> On Tue, 15 Nov 2005 18:20:10 GMT, directory <n...@dll.run> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>mr_antone wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>>http://www.cnn.com/US/9905/25/cox.report.04/
>>>>>WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The ranking Democrat on the House committee that wrote
>>>>>a scathing report on government failures to prevent China's theft of U.S.
>>>>>nuclear weapons technology described the situation on Tuesday as "one of the
>>>>>worst (counterintelligence) failures in the nation's history."
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Still pushing that lie, eh Bushie?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>--
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Butus is lying. China's theft of US nuclear weapons technology
>>>>occurred over decades.
>>>
>>>
>>>YOU are the liar antone, you worthless shitwad!
>>
>>
>> Gee yellowpages, do you read what you post?
>> Here's a snippet:
>
>Yes, you remmeber the fire at Los Alamos don't you?
>
>You know...the one started by an NP park superintendent that burned
>through the town becasue he started a "controled burn" in 35+ mph winds!
>
>So coincidental, eh?
>
>Hoo boy, we no find much evidence of hard drives when lab and town
>evacuated, eh?
Did anyone check to see if there were any commies hiding behind the
trees or under your bed, yellowpages?
Better take a look.
Newsmax?
- HAHAHHAHAHAHA!
<crapola snipped>
mr_antone
directory
It's damned clear YOU didnt...
No rebuttal - HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!
http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/1998/05/25/time/china.missles.html
Did a Chinese plot persuade Clinton to let a U.S. company give China its
rocket science? No. Politics (and policy) did
By Eric Pooley
TIME magazine
If you were a Chinese aerospace kingpin looking for an agent to buy
influence at the White House and get American rocket technology into
your hands, Johnny Chung would not be your first choice for the job--or
your second choice or even your third. Yet Chung, the cartoonish
Taiwan-born businessman best known for his role in the 1996 Clinton
campaign-finance scandals ($366,000 in suspicious contributions; a plea
bargain in which he's cooperating with investigators), was being
described in Washington last week as the pivot man in a "China Plan" to
do just that. For an influence peddler, he employed an unlikely m.o.--a
garish, glad-handing personality that repelled those he wanted to
seduce, from top White House aides to their interns. "Johnny was a
hassle," an intern named Gina Ratliffe told House investigators in a
deposition. Chung often showed up at the offices of Hillary Rodham
Clinton, where Ratliffe worked in 1995, and whenever he did "people
would roll their eyes and say, 'Oh, Johnny is here,'" said Ratliffe.
Chung hired Ratliffe, then 21, as an assistant in what he called his
"bridge-building" mission between the U.S. and China, promising that she
could live in a $3 million Virginia mansion, ride around Washington in a
chauffeured town car, even meet Steven Spielberg. But Ratliffe quit
after three months and one trip to Beijing, she said, because Chung
never made good on his promises. "He was just this big braggart."
Now Chung is having a second moment of infamy, because he has told
investigators that he received $300,000 from Liu Chaoying, a top
executive at China Aerospace International Holdings (the subsidiary of a
huge Chinese satellite-launching outfit), and funneled at least $35,000
of it to the Democratic National Committee. Here's where it gets sticky:
after Chung passed illegal money to the D.N.C., Clinton approved the
transfer of commercial satellite-launch technology to China--technology
that might have helped China improve the accuracy of its long-range
ballistic missiles that threaten the U.S.
Suddenly, the campaign-finance scandals seemed to have serious
national-security implications. New investigative bodies sprang up in
the House and Senate last week as legislators from both parties made
grave pronouncements about the apparent security breach. But TIME's
examination of the evidence suggests there may be less to the China
connection than meets the eye. Investigative sources tell TIME there's
no evidence that anyone in the White House knew Chung was funneling
money from Chinese sources or that Chung ever lobbied anyone about the
transfer of satellite-launch technology. Chung's lawyer, Brian Sun,
insists Liu never discussed satellites or waivers with Chung. At least
part of their partnership concerned the prosaic business of trading auto
parts and telephone equipment.
Chung and Liu met in June 1996 through mutual business contacts in Hong
Kong. It was an easy marriage of interests: Chung, 43, the hustler, was
always flashing his Clinton photos and looking for deals; Liu, 39, the
daughter of a powerful retired general in the People's Liberation Army,
was a lieutenant colonel in the P.L.A. As such, she was a sophisticated
member of the elite class of Chinese "princelings"--offspring of
communist bosses who are often given control of huge trading companies
but who sometimes act independently, not necessarily as agents of a
putative China Inc. that masterminds all the nation's investment, trade
and political activities worldwide. Liu was looking for a foothold in
Western markets. When she visited the U.S. in July 1996, Chung
introduced her to Clinton at a Los Angeles fund raiser. She and Chung
also paid a call on the Securities and Exchange Commission in
Washington, a meeting arranged by Massachusetts Senator John Kerry,
another recipient of Chung's illegal contributions. On the agenda: the
procedure for getting a foreign firm listed on American stock exchanges.
Liu had money on her mind, it seems, more than rocket launches. On Aug.
9, Liu and Chung formed Marswell Investment, a Los Angeles corporation
that issued 50,000 shares of stock--30,000 for Liu, 20,000 for Chung.
And within days, Liu wired $300,000 into Chung's account at a Hong Kong
bank, a source familiar with the case told TIME. Most of it was for
their new business venture; some went to the D.N.C.
The origin of the funds is murky but important. If the money came from
Beijing, its source may have been the P.L.A. or China Aerospace, the
outfit that owns Liu's company. That mystery may never be solved because
Justice Department investigators do not have access to Chinese banking
records. Even the Republican leading the new House investigation into
the matter, California Congressman Christopher Cox, says he has no hope
of proving that the Liu-Chung payment had anything to do with Clinton's
decision to allow an American corporation to send rocket technology to
China. "It's going to remain ultimately ambiguous," Cox told TIME. "We
will never know."
But if the China connection isn't behind Clinton's decision, what is?
Did a Chinese plot persuade Clinton to let a U.S. company give China its
rocket science? No. Politics (and policy) did
By Eric Pooley
TIME magazine
If you were a Chinese aerospace kingpin looking for an agent to buy
influence at the White House and get American rocket technology into
your hands, Johnny Chung would not be your first choice for the job--or
your second choice or even your third. Yet Chung, the cartoonish
Taiwan-born businessman best known for his role in the 1996 Clinton
campaign-finance scandals ($366,000 in suspicious contributions; a plea
bargain in which he's cooperating with investigators), was being
described in Washington last week as the pivot man in a "China Plan" to
do just that. For an influence peddler, he employed an unlikely m.o.--a
garish, glad-handing personality that repelled those he wanted to
seduce, from top White House aides to their interns. "Johnny was a
hassle," an intern named Gina Ratliffe told House investigators in a
deposition. Chung often showed up at the offices of Hillary Rodham
Clinton, where Ratliffe worked in 1995, and whenever he did "people
would roll their eyes and say, 'Oh, Johnny is here,'" said Ratliffe.
Chung hired Ratliffe, then 21, as an assistant in what he called his
"bridge-building" mission between the U.S. and China, promising that she
could live in a $3 million Virginia mansion, ride around Washington in a
chauffeured town car, even meet Steven Spielberg. But Ratliffe quit
after three months and one trip to Beijing, she said, because Chung
never made good on his promises. "He was just this big braggart."
Now Chung is having a second moment of infamy, because he has told
investigators that he received $300,000 from Liu Chaoying, a top
executive at China Aerospace International Holdings (the subsidiary of a
huge Chinese satellite-launching outfit), and funneled at least $35,000
of it to the Democratic National Committee. Here's where it gets sticky:
after Chung passed illegal money to the D.N.C., Clinton approved the
transfer of commercial satellite-launch technology to China--technology
that might have helped China improve the accuracy of its long-range
ballistic missiles that threaten the U.S.
Suddenly, the campaign-finance scandals seemed to have serious
national-security implications. New investigative bodies sprang up in
the House and Senate last week as legislators from both parties made
grave pronouncements about the apparent security breach. But TIME's
examination of the evidence suggests there may be less to the China
connection than meets the eye. Investigative sources tell TIME there's
no evidence that anyone in the White House knew Chung was funneling
money from Chinese sources or that Chung ever lobbied anyone about the
transfer of satellite-launch technology. Chung's lawyer, Brian Sun,
insists Liu never discussed satellites or waivers with Chung. At least
part of their partnership concerned the prosaic business of trading auto
parts and telephone equipment.
Chung and Liu met in June 1996 through mutual business contacts in Hong
Kong. It was an easy marriage of interests: Chung, 43, the hustler, was
always flashing his Clinton photos and looking for deals; Liu, 39, the
daughter of a powerful retired general in the People's Liberation Army,
was a lieutenant colonel in the P.L.A. As such, she was a sophisticated
member of the elite class of Chinese "princelings"--offspring of
communist bosses who are often given control of huge trading companies
but who sometimes act independently, not necessarily as agents of a
putative China Inc. that masterminds all the nation's investment, trade
and political activities worldwide. Liu was looking for a foothold in
Western markets. When she visited the U.S. in July 1996, Chung
introduced her to Clinton at a Los Angeles fund raiser. She and Chung
also paid a call on the Securities and Exchange Commission in
Washington, a meeting arranged by Massachusetts Senator John Kerry,
another recipient of Chung's illegal contributions. On the agenda: the
procedure for getting a foreign firm listed on American stock exchanges.
Liu had money on her mind, it seems, more than rocket launches. On Aug.
9, Liu and Chung formed Marswell Investment, a Los Angeles corporation
that issued 50,000 shares of stock--30,000 for Liu, 20,000 for Chung.
And within days, Liu wired $300,000 into Chung's account at a Hong Kong
bank, a source familiar with the case told TIME. Most of it was for
their new business venture; some went to the D.N.C.
The origin of the funds is murky but important. If the money came from
Beijing, its source may have been the P.L.A. or China Aerospace, the
outfit that owns Liu's company. That mystery may never be solved because
Justice Department investigators do not have access to Chinese banking
records. Even the Republican leading the new House investigation into
the matter, California Congressman Christopher Cox, says he has no hope
of proving that the Liu-Chung payment had anything to do with Clinton's
decision to allow an American corporation to send rocket technology to
China. "It's going to remain ultimately ambiguous," Cox told TIME. "We
will never know."
But if the China connection isn't behind Clinton's decision, what is?
cor
directory wrote:
>
> cor wrote:
> >
...
> > hahahahahaha!
> > When was the last time you saw a computer chip "made in the USA"?
>
> Does the name Micron mean anything to you????
>
> Or Intel?
>
> http://news.softpedia.com/news/New-65-nano-Intel-chips-made-in-USA-11473.shtml
>
> Intel began manufacturing chips using the 65 nanometer process at a
> production site in Arizona, USA. This is the second factory in USA that
> produces this kind of chips.
>
> The company announced in October that it began shipping Presler, a
> dual-core processor made in the 65 nanometer process, to the PC
> manufacturers. These chips are manufactured at a D1D factory in Oregon,
> USA. With the chips produced in the Arizona factory, the volume of 65nm
> chips on the market will substantially rise.
>
Once they get the bugs out they send the lines to CostaRica, Honkong or where ever
is cheaper.
> >>The United States also sells China land-intensive crops such as
> >>soybeans, capital-intensive technology such as commercial aircraft and
> >>materials such as scrap metal, the department says.
> >
> >
> >
> > you read it? "materials such as scrap metal"
> > Yes we sold them a few airplanes. How else are they going to learn to copy
> > the darn things?
>
> You're such a fucking lying piece of shit!
>
> >>http://www.bis.doc.gov/News/2005/DOCSecretary.htm
> >>
> >>China is among the fastest growing major overseas markets for U.S.
> >>manufactured goods. U.S. exports of computers, electrical equipment and
hahahahahahaha
Yea, right, we export computers to China HAhahahahahahahaha!
> >>other electronic products to China increased by 20 percent between 2002
> >>and 2003, topping $7 billion. Chemicals exports grew 24 percent to $3.7
> >>billion over the same period.
> >>
> >>Chinese consumers are growing up with brands as familiar to us as Coke,
> >>Pepsi, Wrigley, Motorola, and Pantene shampoo. From a global
> >
> >
> >
> > hahahahahaha
> > Because they don't know how to make sweet colored water, right?
>
> Mbwhahahahaa!!!
>
> For the same reason they groove on KFC you dumbass!
>
> US culture is hip - just ask the Japanese!
Culture?
Bwhahahahahahahaha!
>
> Ya know what cur, you better stick to cut and paste op-ed leftist
> propaganda.
>
> When it comes to actually _arguing_ your points you don't stand a
> snowball's chance in Hell.
>
> Iown you cur-dog, now go piss up a rope you lying socialist fuckoff!
directory
>
> directory wrote:
>
>>cor wrote:
>>
> ...
>
>>>hahahahahaha!
>>>When was the last time you saw a computer chip "made in the USA"?
>>
>>Does the name Micron mean anything to you????
>>
>>Or Intel?
>>
>>http://news.softpedia.com/news/New-65-nano-Intel-chips-made-in-USA-11473.shtml
>>
>>Intel began manufacturing chips using the 65 nanometer process at a
>>production site in Arizona, USA. This is the second factory in USA that
>>produces this kind of chips.
>>
>>The company announced in October that it began shipping Presler, a
>>dual-core processor made in the 65 nanometer process, to the PC
>>manufacturers. These chips are manufactured at a D1D factory in Oregon,
>>USA. With the chips produced in the Arizona factory, the volume of 65nm
>>chips on the market will substantially rise.
>>
>
>
> Once they get the bugs
You LOST again shithead - FUCK YOU!
Harold Burton
"Torque wrench" <MyM...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Clinton already took care of the top $$ jobs, there in Mexico at 1/5
> the wage !!
What's the problem? US companies make lots of money. I collect lots of
dividends, and they're virtually tax free. I doesn't get much better
than this.
Dave Lister
521ABC.234...@comcast.dca.giganews.com:
You collect handouts in your tin cup, Hairy Butthead.
--
What is wrong with the Republicans??
Harold Burton
Dave Lister <retsil...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Nope, I collect dividends and capital gains at only a 15% tax, while you
wage slave pay close to 30%. Life is good.
Dave Lister
The only way you own anything is if daddy gave it to you, Butthead.
--
What is wrong with the Republicans? They are mentally ill.
Harold Burton
Dave Lister <retsil...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Harold Burton <hal.i....@hotmail.com> wrote in
> news:hal.i.burton-DC80...@comcast.dca.giganews.com:
>
> > In article <Xns9728D38AE1458re...@70.169.32.36>,
> > Dave Lister <retsil...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Harold Burton <hal.i....@hotmail.com> wrote in news:hal.i.burton-
> >> 521ABC.234...@comcast.dca.giganews.com:
> >>
> >> > In article <1132018327.6...@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> >> > "Torque wrench" <MyM...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Clinton already took care of the top $$ jobs, there in Mexico at
> >> >> 1/5 the wage !!
> >> >
> >> > What's the problem? US companies make lots of money. I collect
> >> > lots of dividends, and they're virtually tax free. I doesn't get
> >> > much better than this.
> >>
> >> You collect handouts in your tin cup, Hairy Butthead.
> >
> > Nope, I collect dividends and capital gains at only a 15% tax, while
> > you wage slave pay close to 30%. Life is good.
>
> The only way you own anything is if daddy gave it to you, Butthead.
If you say so, but I'm still living large and you're whining. That
makes it even better.
Dave Lister
> In article <Xns972FBC7DE748re...@70.169.32.36>,
> Dave Lister <retsil...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Harold Burton <hal.i....@hotmail.com> wrote in
>> news:hal.i.burton-DC80...@comcast.dca.giganews.com:
>>
>> > In article <Xns9728D38AE1458re...@70.169.32.36>,
>> > Dave Lister <retsil...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Harold Burton <hal.i....@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:hal.i.burton-
>> >> 521ABC.234...@comcast.dca.giganews.com:
>> >>
>> >> > In article <1132018327.684741.226740
@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
>> >> > "Torque wrench" <MyM...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Clinton already took care of the top $$ jobs, there in Mexico
at
>> >> >> 1/5 the wage !!
>> >> >
>> >> > What's the problem? US companies make lots of money. I collect
>> >> > lots of dividends, and they're virtually tax free. I doesn't
get
>> >> > much better than this.
>> >>
>> >> You collect handouts in your tin cup, Hairy Butthead.
>> >
>> > Nope, I collect dividends and capital gains at only a 15% tax,
while
>> > you wage slave pay close to 30%. Life is good.
>>
>> The only way you own anything is if daddy gave it to you, Butthead.
>
>
> If you say so, but I'm still living large and you're whining. That
> makes it even better.
I'm sure you are living large, Butthead. A trip to the gym wouldn't kill
you.
--
What is wrong with the Republicans?
With Republican George Bush as President we no longer have a leader
seeking to positively inspire Americans to greatness, we have a
President for the first time seeking to govern by the manipulation of
our basest and most irrational fears.
Lobby Dosser
> I'm sure you are living large, Butthead. A trip to the gym wouldn't kill
> you.
>
Well, it Might. But no great loss.
torresD
Santa's Chinese elves
By Pallavi Ayar
BEIJING - While Santa Claus lives
it up with Rudolph at the North Pole,
his elves have relocated to southern
China's towns and villages.
Some 70% of the world's Christmas
ornaments and other paraphernalia
now originate in officially atheist
mainland China.
Tinsel, Santas, mistletoe and
artificial trees of every shape
and hue are churned out at a relentless
pace by thousands of factory workers in
Guangdong, Zhejiang and Jiangsu provinces.
According to the China General
Administration of customs,
Guangdong on its own exported
more than US$620 million worth
of Christmas products in 2004.
For the country as a whole,
the figure was over $1 billion.
Even the White House now
celebrates a "Made in China"
Christmas.
In 2003,
seven of the trees adorning the
US president's residence were
manufactured in China.
Harold Burton
Dave Lister <retsil...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I'm sure you are living large...
Yep, glad you recognize it. Work hard, save your money, invest in oil
stocks and you can do the same.
Dave Lister
Just like your daddy, Harry Butthead.
Scratch
Depending on the government to take care of ya in your old age like your
momma did when you were a baby?
Dave Lister
news:XbudnYAcpbhlwSbe...@comcast.com:
>>>Yep, glad you recognize it. Work hard, save your money, invest in oil
>>>stocks and you can do the same.
>>
>>
>> Just like your daddy, Harry Butthead.
>>
>
>
> Depending on the government to take care of ya in your old age like your
> momma did when you were a baby?
Nope, but then not everybody can be born on third base and claim to be a
big hitter like Harry Butthead.
Harold Burton
Scratch <Scratch@im_still_here.com> wrote:
Heh, heh, heh. Don't discourage him. I love reading his posts
displaying his jealousy of those who, unlike him, have worked hard and
are now living the good life because of it.
Harold Burton
Dave Lister <retsil...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Scratch <Scratch@im_still_here.com> wrote in
> news:XbudnYAcpbhlwSbe...@comcast.com:
>
> >>>Yep, glad you recognize it. Work hard, save your money, invest in oil
> >>>stocks and you can do the same.
> >>
> >>
> >> Just like your daddy, Harry Butthead.
> >>
> >
> >
> > Depending on the government to take care of ya in your old age like your
> > momma did when you were a baby?
>
> Nope, but then not everybody can be born on third base and claim to be a
> big hitter like Harry Butthead.
Heh, heh, heh, I love your little snits of jealousy.
Dave Lister
Jealous of suck-ass little daddy's boy like you, Harry Butthead? You have
way to high opinion of yourself.
Dave Lister
> Heh, heh, heh. Don't discourage him. I love reading his posts
> displaying his jealousy of those who, unlike him, have worked hard and
> are now living the good life because of it.
I'm sure your daddy did, Hairy Butthead.
Harold Burton
Dave Lister <retsil...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Harold Burton <hal.i....@hotmail.com> wrote in
> news:hal.i.burton-7A0B...@comcast.dca.giganews.com:
>
> > In article <Xns9741A2773A70Are...@70.169.32.36>,
> > Dave Lister <retsil...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Scratch <Scratch@im_still_here.com> wrote in
> >> news:XbudnYAcpbhlwSbe...@comcast.com:
> >>
> >> >>>Yep, glad you recognize it. Work hard, save your money, invest in
> >> >>>oil stocks and you can do the same.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Just like your daddy, Harry Butthead.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Depending on the government to take care of ya in your old age like
> >> > your momma did when you were a baby?
> >>
> >> Nope, but then not everybody can be born on third base and claim to
> >> be a big hitter like Harry Butthead.
> >
> > Heh, heh, heh, I love your little snits of jealousy.
>
> Jealous of suck-ass little daddy's boy like you, Harry Butthead?
Clearly.
Harold Burton
Dave Lister <retsil...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Harold Burton <hal.i....@hotmail.com> wrote in
> news:hal.i.burton-AA6D...@comcast.dca.giganews.com:
>
> > Heh, heh, heh. Don't discourage him. I love reading his posts
> > displaying his jealousy of those who, unlike him, have worked hard and
> > are now living the good life because of it.
>
> I'm sure your daddy did, Hairy Butthead.
Your jealousy is unbecoming, try to get over it.
Dave Lister
Yeah, I'm jealous of that fat ass you got laying around when your daddy
went to work. <snicker>
Dave Lister
Poor Hairy Butthead - confuses disdain with envy.
Scratch
Yea, some of us actually listened :)
Harold Burton
Dave Lister <retsil...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Harold Burton <hal.i....@hotmail.com> wrote in news:hal.i.burton-
> B8371A.000...@comcast.dca.giganews.com:
>
> > In article <Xns97429FB852227re...@70.169.32.36>,
> > Dave Lister <retsil...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Harold Burton <hal.i....@hotmail.com> wrote in
> >> news:hal.i.burton-7A0B...@comcast.dca.giganews.com:
> >>
> >> > In article <Xns9741A2773A70Are...@70.169.32.36>,
> >> > Dave Lister <retsil...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Scratch <Scratch@im_still_here.com> wrote in
> >> >> news:XbudnYAcpbhlwSbe...@comcast.com:
> >> >>
> >> >> >>>Yep, glad you recognize it. Work hard, save your money, invest
> in
> >> >> >>>oil stocks and you can do the same.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Just like your daddy, Harry Butthead.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Depending on the government to take care of ya in your old age
> like
> >> >> > your momma did when you were a baby?
> >> >>
> >> >> Nope, but then not everybody can be born on third base and claim
> to
> >> >> be a big hitter like Harry Butthead.
> >> >
> >> > Heh, heh, heh, I love your little snits of jealousy.
> >>
> >> Jealous of suck-ass little daddy's boy like you, Harry Butthead?
> >
> >
> > Clearly.
>
> Yeah, I'm jealous...
and it shows, Dave, it shows.
Harold Burton
Dave Lister <retsil...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Harold Burton <hal.i....@hotmail.com> wrote in news:hal.i.burton-
> C6E231.000...@comcast.dca.giganews.com:
>
> > In article <Xns97429FD7DF1E2re...@70.169.32.36>,
> > Dave Lister <retsil...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Harold Burton <hal.i....@hotmail.com> wrote in
> >> news:hal.i.burton-AA6D...@comcast.dca.giganews.com:
> >>
> >> > Heh, heh, heh. Don't discourage him. I love reading his posts
> >> > displaying his jealousy of those who, unlike him, have worked hard and
> >> > are now living the good life because of it.
> >>
> >> I'm sure your daddy did, Hairy Butthead.
> >
> > Your jealousy is unbecoming, try to get over it.
>
> Poor Hairy Butthead - confuses disdain with envy.
Your jealousy is showing again, try to get over it.
Dave Lister
Poor Hairy Butthead, confuses disdain with envy.
Harold Burton
Dave Lister <retsil...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Harold Burton <hal.i....@hotmail.com> wrote in
> news:hal.i.burton-92A8...@comcast.dca.giganews.com:
>
> > In article <Xns9742A764C7C00re...@70.169.32.36>,
> > Dave Lister <retsil...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Harold Burton <hal.i....@hotmail.com> wrote in news:hal.i.burton-
> >> C6E231.000...@comcast.dca.giganews.com:
> >>
> >> > In article <Xns97429FD7DF1E2re...@70.169.32.36>,
> >> > Dave Lister <retsil...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Harold Burton <hal.i....@hotmail.com> wrote in
> >> >> news:hal.i.burton-AA6D...@comcast.dca.giganews.com:
> >> >>
> >> >> > Heh, heh, heh. Don't discourage him. I love reading his posts
> >> >> > displaying his jealousy of those who, unlike him, have worked
> >> >> > hard and are now living the good life because of it.
> >> >>
> >> >> I'm sure your daddy did, Hairy Butthead.
> >> >
> >> > Your jealousy is unbecoming, try to get over it.
> >>
> >> Poor Hairy Butthead - confuses disdain with envy.
> >
> > Your jealousy is showing again, try to get over it.
>
> Poor Hairy Butthead, confuses disdain with envy.
It's showing again, try to get over it.
Dave Lister
> In article <Xns974331E5CEEF7re...@70.169.32.36>,
> Dave Lister <retsil...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Harold Burton <hal.i....@hotmail.com> wrote in
>> news:hal.i.burton-92A8...@comcast.dca.giganews.com:
>>
>> > In article <Xns9742A764C7C00re...@70.169.32.36>,
>> > Dave Lister <retsil...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Harold Burton <hal.i....@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:hal.i.burton-
>> >> C6E231.000...@comcast.dca.giganews.com:
>> >>
>> >> > In article <Xns97429FD7DF1E2re...@70.169.32.36>,
>> >> > Dave Lister <retsil...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Harold Burton <hal.i....@hotmail.com> wrote in
>> >> >> news:hal.i.burton-AA6D1F.23275804012006
@comcast.dca.giganews.com:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Heh, heh, heh. Don't discourage him. I love reading his
posts
>> >> >> > displaying his jealousy of those who, unlike him, have worked
>> >> >> > hard and are now living the good life because of it.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I'm sure your daddy did, Hairy Butthead.
>> >> >
>> >> > Your jealousy is unbecoming, try to get over it.
>> >>
>> >> Poor Hairy Butthead - confuses disdain with envy.
>> >
>> > Your jealousy is showing again, try to get over it.
>>
>> Poor Hairy Butthead, confuses disdain with envy.
>
> It's showing again, try to get over it.
Poor Hairy Butthead, confuses disdain with envy.
--
Harold Burton
Dave Lister <retsil...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Still showing.
Dave Lister
> In article <Xns97438B316244Cre...@70.169.32.36>,
> Dave Lister <retsil...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Harold Burton <hal.i....@hotmail.com> wrote in news:hal.i.burton-
>> 9C238F.210...@comcast.dca.giganews.com:
>>
>> > In article <Xns974331E5CEEF7re...@70.169.32.36>,
>> > Dave Lister <retsil...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Harold Burton <hal.i....@hotmail.com> wrote in
>> >> news:hal.i.burton-92A8...@comcast.dca.giganews.com:
>> >>
>> >> > In article <Xns9742A764C7C00re...@70.169.32.36>,
>> >> > Dave Lister <retsil...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Harold Burton <hal.i....@hotmail.com> wrote in
>> news:hal.i.burton-
>> >> >> C6E231.000...@comcast.dca.giganews.com:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > In article <Xns97429FD7DF1E2retsildivad33hotmail@
70.169.32.36>,
>> >> >> > Dave Lister <retsil...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> Harold Burton <hal.i....@hotmail.com> wrote in
>> >> >> >> news:hal.i.burton-AA6D1F.23275804012006
>> @comcast.dca.giganews.com:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > Heh, heh, heh. Don't discourage him. I love reading his
>> posts
>> >> >> >> > displaying his jealousy of those who, unlike him, have
worked
>> >> >> >> > hard and are now living the good life because of it.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> I'm sure your daddy did, Hairy Butthead.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Your jealousy is unbecoming, try to get over it.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Poor Hairy Butthead - confuses disdain with envy.
>> >> >
>> >> > Your jealousy is showing again, try to get over it.
>> >>
>> >> Poor Hairy Butthead, confuses disdain with envy.
>> >
>> > It's showing again, try to get over it.
>>
>> Poor Hairy Butthead, confuses disdain with envy.
>
> Still showing.
Still confusing, Hairy Butthead.
Harold Burton
Dave Lister <retsil...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Just reveling in the fact that you're so jealous of me.
Dave Lister
> In article <Xns9743A4F15F468re...@70.169.32.36>,
> Dave Lister <retsil...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Harold Burton <hal.i....@hotmail.com> wrote in news:hal.i.burton-
>> DA44C3.222...@comcast.dca.giganews.com:
>>
>> > In article <Xns97438B316244Cre...@70.169.32.36>,
>> > Dave Lister <retsil...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Harold Burton <hal.i....@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:hal.i.burton-
>> >> 9C238F.210...@comcast.dca.giganews.com:
>> >>
>> >> > In article <Xns974331E5CEEF7re...@70.169.32.36>,
>> >> > Dave Lister <retsil...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Harold Burton <hal.i....@hotmail.com> wrote in
>> >> >> news:hal.i.burton-92A858.11023205012006
@comcast.dca.giganews.com:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > In article <Xns9742A764C7C00retsildivad33hotmail@
I know it would be a first, Butthead, but you are still confused.
Harold Burton
Dave Lister <retsil...@hotmail.com> wrote:
But the obvious object of your affection. Try to get over it.
Dave Lister
> In article <Xns9743797F4744Bre...@70.169.32.36>,
> Dave Lister <retsil...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Harold Burton <hal.i....@hotmail.com> wrote in news:hal.i.burton-
>> B5FD69.145...@comcast.dca.giganews.com:
>>
>> > In article <Xns9743A4F15F468re...@70.169.32.36>,
>> > Dave Lister <retsil...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Harold Burton <hal.i....@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:hal.i.burton-
>> >> DA44C3.222...@comcast.dca.giganews.com:
>> >>
>> >> > In article <Xns97438B316244Cre...@70.169.32.36>,
>> >> > Dave Lister <retsil...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Harold Burton <hal.i....@hotmail.com> wrote in
>> news:hal.i.burton-
>> >> >> 9C238F.210...@comcast.dca.giganews.com:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > In article <Xns974331E5CEEF7retsildivad33hotmail@
Disdain, Butthead, disdain.
Harold Burton
Dave Lister <retsil...@hotmail.com> wrote:
So you'd like to pretend but your jealousy still shows through.
Dave Lister
> In article <Xns9743DAAC84165re...@70.169.32.36>,
> Dave Lister <retsil...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Harold Burton <hal.i....@hotmail.com> wrote in news:hal.i.burton-
>> B60C97.231...@comcast.dca.giganews.com:
>>
>> > In article <Xns9743797F4744Bre...@70.169.32.36>,
>> > Dave Lister <retsil...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Harold Burton <hal.i....@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:hal.i.burton-
>> >> B5FD69.145...@comcast.dca.giganews.com:
>> >>
>> >> > In article <Xns9743A4F15F468re...@70.169.32.36>,
>> >> > Dave Lister <retsil...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Harold Burton <hal.i....@hotmail.com> wrote in
>> news:hal.i.burton-
>> >> >> DA44C3.222...@comcast.dca.giganews.com:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > In article <Xns97438B316244Cretsildivad33hotmail@
Poor Butthead, still lives in a delusional rightard state.
Harold Burton
Dave Lister <retsil...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Poor Butthead, still lives in...
...a lifestyle that Dave is jealous of, not that there's anything wrong
with that.
Dave Lister
Poor Butthead, thinks his white trash squalor is admirable.
Harold Burton
Dave Lister <retsil...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Poor Butthead...
...he's successful and doesn't have to take the pseudonym of a notorious
Britcom loser.
Dave Lister
> In article <Xns9744CA4CB7839re...@70.169.32.36>,
> Dave Lister <retsil...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Harold Burton <hal.i....@hotmail.com> wrote in
>> news:hal.i.burton-A02B...@comcast.dca.giganews.com:
>>
>> > In article <Xns9744A71927678re...@70.169.32.36>,
>> > Dave Lister <retsil...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Harold Burton <hal.i....@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:hal.i.burton-
>> >> C61C02.190...@comcast.dca.giganews.com:
>> >>
>> >> > In article <Xns9743DAAC84165re...@70.169.32.36>,
>> >> > Dave Lister <retsil...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Harold Burton <hal.i....@hotmail.com> wrote in
>> >> >> news:hal.i.burton- B60C97.23105006012006
@comcast.dca.giganews.com:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > In article <Xns9743797F4744Bretsildivad33hotmail@
Poor Butthead thinks his daddy working hard makes him successful.
Harold Burton
Dave Lister <retsil...@hotmail.com> wrote:
I see you don't disagree about the significance of your name and it's
connection to that of the ultimate Britcom loser.
Dave Lister
>> > ...he's successful and doesn't have to take the pseudonym of a
>> > notorious Britcom loser.
>>
>> Poor Butthead thinks his daddy working hard makes him successful.
>
> I see you don't disagree about the significance of your name and it's
> connection to that of the ultimate Britcom loser.
Dave Lister was the last surviving member of the human race, moron.
Harold Burton
Dave Lister <retsil...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Harold Burton <hal.i....@hotmail.com> wrote in news:hal.i.burton-
> EB42B2.235...@comcast.dca.giganews.com:
>
> >> > ...he's successful and doesn't have to take the pseudonym of a
> >> > notorious Britcom loser.
> >>
> >> Poor Butthead thinks his daddy working hard makes him successful.
> >
> > I see you don't disagree about the significance of your name and it's
> > connection to that of the ultimate Britcom loser.
>
> Dave Lister was the last surviving member of the human race, moron.
Nope, but keep trying.
Dave Lister
Yep, Hairy Butthead, he was.
Harold Burton
Dave Lister <retsil...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Harold Burton <hal.i....@hotmail.com> wrote in news:hal.i.burton-
> 842BD2.084...@comcast.dca.giganews.com:
>
> > In article <Xns97456C30071CFre...@70.169.32.36>,
> > Dave Lister <retsil...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Harold Burton <hal.i....@hotmail.com> wrote in news:hal.i.burton-
> >> EB42B2.235...@comcast.dca.giganews.com:
> >>
> >> >> > ...he's successful and doesn't have to take the pseudonym of a
> >> >> > notorious Britcom loser.
> >> >>
> >> >> Poor Butthead thinks his daddy working hard makes him successful.
> >> >
> >> > I see you don't disagree about the significance of your name and
> it's
> >> > connection to that of the ultimate Britcom loser.
> >>
> >> Dave Lister was the last surviving member of the human race, moron.
> >
> > Nope, but keep trying.
>
> Yep, Hairy Butthead...
Sure sign of a neolib losing an argument, resort to name calling.
Dave Lister
Losing an argument? You don't know what you are babbling about,
Butthead.
Harold Burton
Dave Lister <retsil...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Yep, too bad you have to resort to name calling, but it's all you've got.