>> 2960 Dead wrote:

>>> On Tue, 10 Apr 2012 22:13:27 -0500, Man_of_Mind wrote:

>>> > On 4/10/2012 9:36 PM, Slackjaw was sniveling pointlessly at:

>>> >> 2960 Dead replied to:

>>> >>> On Tue, 10 Apr 2012 23:42:34 +0000, Slackjaw whined/opined:
>>> > ...
>>> >>>> I once hired a high school senior as an intern. Smart girl, but
>>> she >>>> didn't know who won WWII.

>>> >>> And she probably bought the business out from under you in two
>>> months.

>>> >>> The citizenship test has questions such as "Which of the following
>>> >>> four individuals is currently President of the United States?" and
>>> >>> "Which of the following oceans is off America's west coast?"  96
>>> >>> questions, all multiple choice, and a passing grade requires you
>>> get >>> 58 of them right.  Most involve elementary-school levels of
>>> knowledge >>> of America.

>>> >>> I would love to see all 535 members of Congress take the test,
>>> and >>> see a) how many pass and b) how it breaks down by party and
>>> political >>> leaning.

>>> >> No you really wouldn't - it would depress you

>>> > To see how many right-wingers aren't qualified to represent us?

>>> > --You know, as in "We, the People, of the United States"..

>>> I'm guessing Slackjaw took the quiz, but quit about a quarter the way
>>> in when he already had ten wrong.

>> And you would be wrong, again.

>Too afraid to even try it at all, eh?

>> 2938 Dead wrote:

>>> On Mon, 09 Apr 2012 16:51:40 +0000, Slackjaw wrote:

>>> > David Hartung wrote:

>>> >> On 04/09/2012 08:40 AM, Man_of_Mind wrote:
>>> >> > From Alternet:

>>> >> > By Chris Mooney, AlterNet
>>> >> > Posted on April 8, 2012, Printed on April 9, 2012 © 2012
>>> Independent >> > Media Institute. All rights reserved.

>>> http://www.alternet.org/media/154875/the_science_of_fox_news%3A_why_
>>> >> > its_viewers_are_the_most_misinformed/ >>
>>> >> Problem number 1: Alternet is not a credible news source.

>>> >> Problem number 2: Based upon his writings, Chris Mooney is nowhere
>>> >> close to being an impartial journalist.

>>> > If by "Fox viewers most mis-informed" he means "Fox viewers disagree
>>> > most with my opinions" then he's right.
>>> >> -

>>> Well, most normal people don't think the fucking NAZIS are a "civil
>>> rights group."

>> You know, most normal people aren't liberal.

>>> Faux does.

>> What?!

>> Zepp, you seem to get kookier by the day.

>Oh, nearly missed that.  You really shouldn't post when ignorant,
>chuckles:
>http://fwd4.me/0y7o

>--
>“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, make violent revolution
>inevitable” -JFK

> Baron von Mind was chuckling at the fallacy arguments posted by:

>> On 4/10/2012 10:41 PM, David Hartung wrote:

>>> On 04/10/2012 10:19 PM, Baron von Mind wrote:

>>>> On 4/10/2012 10:01 PM, David Hartung wrote:

>>>>> On 04/10/2012 06:35 PM, Slackjaw wrote:

>>>>>> Man_Of_Mind wrote:

>>>>>>> David Hartung wrote:

>>>>>>>> On 04/10/2012 03:20 PM, Man_Of_Mind wrote:

>>>>>>>>> David Hartung wrote:
--------->
>>>>>>>>>> You do realize that neither you or Jamieson demonstrate the
>>>>>>>>>> level of knowledge for either history or political science
>>>>>>>>>> which should be expected from a high school student?

>>>>>>>>> According to yourself?

>>>>>>>>> And your degree in education or history would be from where?
>>>>>>>>> Google?

>>>>>>>>> More likely, you were just mouthing off self-importantly about
>>>>>>>>> your own "demonstrated level of knowledge", as I know that I've
>>>>>>>>> attended the classes you dishonestly insinuated would be
>>>>>>>>> expected..

>>>>>>>>> --But, that's the trouble with your 'expectations', isn't it?

>>>>>>>> Your assertion of education proves nothing.

>>>>>>> And it doesn't have to, because you stated an unprovable claim
>>>>>>> of "neither you or Jamieson demonstrate the level of knowledge
>>>>>>> for either history or political science"..

>>>>>>> Your evasions prove you're just jealous of our educations,

>>>>>> Well, well, hear that David? You're jealous of Kurt's "education".

>>>>> So I see.

>>>> Care to see some more, before you try to change the subject
>>>> again and drag this into yet another pointless tirade about
>>>> how somebody you don't even know somehow hasn't the political
>>>> knowledge you have from a search-engine..

>>>> --As compared to a university education?

>>> The problem is that we have only your word that you have that university
>>> education.

>> Feel free to write me at the gmail address, and I'll send you a
>> photo of the diploma and transcript..

> Of course, this begs the question,

>> Baron von Mind was chuckling at the fallacy arguments posted by:

>>> On 4/10/2012 10:41 PM, David Hartung wrote:

>>>> On 04/10/2012 10:19 PM, Baron von Mind wrote:

>>>>> On 4/10/2012 10:01 PM, David Hartung wrote:

>>>>>> On 04/10/2012 06:35 PM, Slackjaw wrote:

>>>>>>> Man_Of_Mind wrote:

>>>>>>>> David Hartung wrote:

>>>>>>>>> On 04/10/2012 03:20 PM, Man_Of_Mind wrote:

>>>>>>>>>> David Hartung wrote:
> --------->
>>>>>>>>>>> You do realize that neither you or Jamieson demonstrate the
>>>>>>>>>>> level of knowledge for either history or political science
>>>>>>>>>>> which should be expected from a high school student?

>>>>>>>>>> According to yourself?

>>>>>>>>>> And your degree in education or history would be from where?
>>>>>>>>>> Google?

>>>>>>>>>> More likely, you were just mouthing off self-importantly about
>>>>>>>>>> your own "demonstrated level of knowledge", as I know that I've
>>>>>>>>>> attended the classes you dishonestly insinuated would be
>>>>>>>>>> expected..

>>>>>>>>>> --But, that's the trouble with your 'expectations', isn't it?

>>>>>>>>> Your assertion of education proves nothing.

>>>>>>>> And it doesn't have to, because you stated an unprovable claim
>>>>>>>> of "neither you or Jamieson demonstrate the level of knowledge
>>>>>>>> for either history or political science"..

>>>>>>>> Your evasions prove you're just jealous of our educations,

>>>>>>> Well, well, hear that David? You're jealous of Kurt's "education".

>>>>>> So I see.

>>>>> Care to see some more, before you try to change the subject
>>>>> again and drag this into yet another pointless tirade about
>>>>> how somebody you don't even know somehow hasn't the political
>>>>> knowledge you have from a search-engine..

>>>>> --As compared to a university education?

>>>> The problem is that we have only your word that you have that
>>>> university
>>>> education.

>>> Feel free to write me at the gmail address, and I'll send you a
>>> photo of the diploma and transcript..

>> Of course, this begs the question,

> Yes, and the question was whether or not Hartung was capable
> of judging the academic background and education in history
> and politics of those he was trying to downplay by saying..

> "You do realize that neither you or Jamieson demonstrate the
> level of knowledge for either history or political science
> which should be expected from a high school student?"

> I then invited David to write me, so that I could send him
> copies of my college transcripts and diploma. Of course,
> neither of you wrote for this, with David dismissing the
> whole matter, rather than apologizing for such a slight..

>> Baron von Mind was chuckling at the fallacy arguments posted by:

>>> On 4/10/2012 10:41 PM, David Hartung wrote:

>>>> On 04/10/2012 10:19 PM, Baron von Mind wrote:

>>>>> On 4/10/2012 10:01 PM, David Hartung wrote:

>>>>>> On 04/10/2012 06:35 PM, Slackjaw wrote:

>>>>>>> Man_Of_Mind wrote:

>>>>>>>> David Hartung wrote:

>>>>>>>>> On 04/10/2012 03:20 PM, Man_Of_Mind wrote:

>>>>>>>>>> David Hartung wrote:
> --------->
>>>>>>>>>>> You do realize that neither you or Jamieson demonstrate the
>>>>>>>>>>> level of knowledge for either history or political science
>>>>>>>>>>> which should be expected from a high school student?

>>>>>>>>>> According to yourself?

>>>>>>>>>> And your degree in education or history would be from where?
>>>>>>>>>> Google?

>>>>>>>>>> More likely, you were just mouthing off self-importantly about
>>>>>>>>>> your own "demonstrated level of knowledge", as I know that I've
>>>>>>>>>> attended the classes you dishonestly insinuated would be
>>>>>>>>>> expected..

>>>>>>>>>> --But, that's the trouble with your 'expectations', isn't it?

>>>>>>>>> Your assertion of education proves nothing.

>>>>>>>> And it doesn't have to, because you stated an unprovable claim
>>>>>>>> of "neither you or Jamieson demonstrate the level of knowledge
>>>>>>>> for either history or political science"..

>>>>>>>> Your evasions prove you're just jealous of our educations,

>>>>>>> Well, well, hear that David? You're jealous of Kurt's "education".

>>>>>> So I see.

>>>>> Care to see some more, before you try to change the subject
>>>>> again and drag this into yet another pointless tirade about
>>>>> how somebody you don't even know somehow hasn't the political
>>>>> knowledge you have from a search-engine..

>>>>> --As compared to a university education?

>>>> The problem is that we have only your word that you have that
>>>> university
>>>> education.

>>> Feel free to write me at the gmail address, and I'll send you a
>>> photo of the diploma and transcript..

>> Of course, this begs the question,

> Yes,

> --But, I wasn't surprised by this, at all..

>>> Baron von Mind was chuckling at the fallacy arguments posted by:

>>>> On 4/10/2012 10:41 PM, David Hartung wrote:

>>>>> On 04/10/2012 10:19 PM, Baron von Mind wrote:

>>>>>> On 4/10/2012 10:01 PM, David Hartung wrote:

>>>>>>> On 04/10/2012 06:35 PM, Slackjaw wrote:

>>>>>>>> Man_Of_Mind wrote:

>>>>>>>>> David Hartung wrote:

>>>>>>>>>> On 04/10/2012 03:20 PM, Man_Of_Mind wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>> David Hartung wrote:
>> --------->
>>>>>>>>>>>> You do realize that neither you or Jamieson demonstrate the
>>>>>>>>>>>> level of knowledge for either history or political science
>>>>>>>>>>>> which should be expected from a high school student?

>>>>>>>>>>> According to yourself?

>>>>>>>>>>> And your degree in education or history would be from where?
>>>>>>>>>>> Google?

>>>>>>>>>>> More likely, you were just mouthing off self-importantly about
>>>>>>>>>>> your own "demonstrated level of knowledge", as I know that I've
>>>>>>>>>>> attended the classes you dishonestly insinuated would be
>>>>>>>>>>> expected..

>>>>>>>>>>> --But, that's the trouble with your 'expectations', isn't it?

>>>>>>>>>> Your assertion of education proves nothing.

>>>>>>>>> And it doesn't have to, because you stated an unprovable claim
>>>>>>>>> of "neither you or Jamieson demonstrate the level of knowledge
>>>>>>>>> for either history or political science"..

>>>>>>>>> Your evasions prove you're just jealous of our educations,

>>>>>>>> Well, well, hear that David? You're jealous of Kurt's "education".

>>>>>>> So I see.

>>>>>> Care to see some more, before you try to change the subject
>>>>>> again and drag this into yet another pointless tirade about
>>>>>> how somebody you don't even know somehow hasn't the political
>>>>>> knowledge you have from a search-engine..

>>>>>> --As compared to a university education?

>>>>> The problem is that we have only your word that you have that
>>>>> university
>>>>> education.

>>>> Feel free to write me at the gmail address, and I'll send you a
>>>> photo of the diploma and transcript..

>>> Of course, this begs the question,

>> Yes, and the question was whether or not Hartung was capable
>> of judging the academic background and education in history
>> and politics of those he was trying to downplay by saying..

>> "You do realize that neither you or Jamieson demonstrate the
>> level of knowledge for either history or political science
>> which should be expected from a high school student?"

>> I then invited David to write me, so that I could send him
>> copies of my college transcripts and diploma. Of course,
>> neither of you wrote for this, with David dismissing the
>> whole matter, rather than apologizing for such a slight..

> I made an observation based upon your postings, an observation which I
> believe to be valid, no matter how many courses you may have taken, and
> how many degrees you may have. When you begin to applogize for your
> remarks, you may have grounds to expect apologies from others.

> On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 02:52:48 +0000, Slackjaw wrote:

>> 2960 Dead wrote:

>>> On Wed, 11 Apr 2012 02:36:44 +0000, Slackjaw wrote:
--->
>>>> Oh, I should mention - public school education.

>>> Oh, good.  So you DID have SOME education.

>> Uh, no, Zepp, *she* had the public school education, mine was private.

> Ah.  Toilet trained with electric cattle prods, were you?

> I'm a bit surprised,  Surely you aren't conceited enough to think I would
> take you seriously?

>> On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 02:52:48 +0000, Slackjaw wrote:

>>> 2960 Dead wrote:

>>>> On Wed, 11 Apr 2012 02:36:44 +0000, Slackjaw wrote:
> --->
>>>>> Oh, I should mention - public school education.

>>>> Oh, good.  So you DID have SOME education.

>>> Uh, no, Zepp, *she* had the public school education, mine was private.

>> Ah.  Toilet trained with electric cattle prods, were you?

> *>snurck!<*  I wonder what sort of "private school" he went to?

>>> Once again, the point flew over your head. (Sigh, why do I even try?)

>> I'm a bit surprised,  Surely you aren't conceited enough to think I
>> would take you seriously?

> Well, he imagines that might be so..

> > On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 02:50:12 +0000, Slackjaw wrote:

> >> 2960 Dead wrote:

> >>> On Tue, 10 Apr 2012 22:13:27 -0500, Man_of_Mind wrote:

> >>> > On 4/10/2012 9:36 PM, Slackjaw was sniveling pointlessly at:

> >>> >> 2960 Dead replied to:

> >>> >>> On Tue, 10 Apr 2012 23:42:34 +0000, Slackjaw whined/opined:
> >>> > ...
> >>> >>>> I once hired a high school senior as an intern. Smart girl,
> but >>> she >>>> didn't know who won WWII.

> >>> >>> And she probably bought the business out from under you in two
> >>> months.

> >>> >>> The citizenship test has questions such as "Which of the
> following >>> >>> four individuals is currently President of the
> United States?" and >>> >>> "Which of the following oceans is off
> America's west coast?"  96 >>> >>> questions, all multiple choice,
> and a passing grade requires you >>> get >>> 58 of them right.  Most
> involve elementary-school levels of >>> knowledge >>> of America.

> >>> >>> I would love to see all 535 members of Congress take the test,
> >>> and >>> see a) how many pass and b) how it breaks down by party
> and >>> political >>> leaning.

> >>> >> No you really wouldn't - it would depress you

> >>> > To see how many right-wingers aren't qualified to represent us?

> >>> > --You know, as in "We, the People, of the United States"..

> >>> I'm guessing Slackjaw took the quiz, but quit about a quarter the
> way >>> in when he already had ten wrong.

> >> And you would be wrong, again.

> > Too afraid to even try it at all, eh?

> > 2960 Dead wrote:

> >> On Wed, 11 Apr 2012 02:36:44 +0000, Slackjaw wrote:

> >> > 2960 Dead wrote:

> >> >> On Tue, 10 Apr 2012 23:42:34 +0000, Slackjaw wrote:
> >> --

> >> >> > I once hired a high school senior as an intern. Smart girl,
> but >> she >> > didn't know who won WWII.

> >> >> And she probably bought the business out from under you in two
> >> months.

> >> >  Another classic Zeppism.

> >> > Oh, I should mention - public school education.

> >> Oh, good.  So you DID have SOME education.

> > Uh, no, Zepp, she had the public school education, mine was private.

> Ah.  Toilet trained with electric cattle prods, were you?

> > Once again, the point flew over your head. (Sigh, why do I even
> > try?)

> I'm a bit surprised,  Surely you aren't conceited enough to think I
> would take you seriously?

> >> Some of us had been
> >> wondering about that.

> >> >> The citizenship test has questions such as "Which of the
> following >> four >> individuals is currently President of the United
> States?" and >> "Which of >> the following oceans is off America's
> west coast?"  96 >> questions, all >> multiple choice, and a passing
> grade requires you get >> 58 of them right.  >>  Most involve
> elementary-school levels of >> knowledge of America.  >>
> >> >> I would love to see all 535 members of Congress take the test,

> >> > No you really wouldn't - it would depress you to see the
> Democrats >> > fail so badly.

> >> >> and
> >> >> see a) how many pass and b) how it breaks down by party and
> >> political >> leaning.

>> On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 03:39:36 +0000 (UTC), 2960 Dead <d...@gone.com>
>> wrote:

>> > On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 02:50:12 +0000, Slackjaw wrote:

>> >> 2960 Dead wrote:

>> >>> On Tue, 10 Apr 2012 22:13:27 -0500, Man_of_Mind wrote:

>> >>> > On 4/10/2012 9:36 PM, Slackjaw was sniveling pointlessly at:

>> >>> >> 2960 Dead replied to:

>> >>> >>> On Tue, 10 Apr 2012 23:42:34 +0000, Slackjaw whined/opined:
>> >>> > ...
>> >>> >>>> I once hired a high school senior as an intern. Smart girl,
>> but >>> she >>>> didn't know who won WWII.

>> >>> >>> And she probably bought the business out from under you in two
>> >>> months.

>> >>> >>> The citizenship test has questions such as "Which of the
>> following >>> >>> four individuals is currently President of the
>> United States?" and >>> >>> "Which of the following oceans is off
>> America's west coast?"  96 >>> >>> questions, all multiple choice,
>> and a passing grade requires you >>> get >>> 58 of them right.  Most
>> involve elementary-school levels of >>> knowledge >>> of America.

>> >>> >>> I would love to see all 535 members of Congress take the test,
>> >>> and >>> see a) how many pass and b) how it breaks down by party
>> and >>> political >>> leaning.

>> >>> >> No you really wouldn't - it would depress you

>> >>> > To see how many right-wingers aren't qualified to represent us?

>> >>> > --You know, as in "We, the People, of the United States"..

>> >>> I'm guessing Slackjaw took the quiz, but quit about a quarter the
>> way >>> in when he already had ten wrong.

>> >> And you would be wrong, again.

>> > Too afraid to even try it at all, eh?

>Didn't Zepp once claim he went to college?