Heckuva Job.
PJ O'Donovan
“The reason the country is uneasy about the Obama administration’s
response to this attack is a distinct sense of not just incompetence
but incomprehension. . . . Any government can through laxity let
someone slip through the cracks. But a government that refuses to
admit that we are at war, indeed, refuses even to name the enemy —
jihadist is a word banished from the Obama lexicon — turns laxity into
a governing philosophy.”
kangarooistan
All western countries have been at WAR against Islam for nearly a
DECADE
Every year the Muslims get bombed relentlessly by western taxpayers
kidkillers
Every year the Muslims grow ever more angry
Increasing attacks wont save western taxpayers
Killing more Muslims wont save western taxpayers
every dead Muslim only means MORE Muslims seeking JUSTICE , and the
more JUSTICE is denied the more Muslims who will be FORCED to defend
their babies by any means available
Sooner or later even the dumbest western taxpayer will be FORCED to
face the facts
western taxpayers are the REAL terrorists and they LOST the WAR long
ago
kanga
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mose
"PJ O'Donovan" <pjdn...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:e9de8eb0-581a-480e...@j14g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
Heckuva Job.
�The reason the country is uneasy about the Obama administration�s
response to this attack is a distinct sense of not just incompetence
but incomprehension. . . .
BULLSHIT, WHERE ARE YOU GETTING IT FROM? THE BRILIANT JEWS ANNDV BREPUGS
THAT BROUGHT ON THE GREATEST RECESSION SINCE 1930?
AND MAKING THE MOST MONEY FOR JEWISH BANKERS?
Any government can through laxity let
someone slip through the cracks. But a government that refuses to
admit that we are at war, indeed, refuses even to name the enemy �
jihadist is a word banished from the Obama lexicon � turns laxity into
a governing philosophy.�
GOOD OL PJ THE PRIZE JEW REPUG TRYING TO WARM THE WAR RHETORIC AGAIN FOR
JEWS/ISRAELIS AND ZIONISTS.
THEY WERE NO TERRORISTS TILL MAD BUSH'S ON ADVICE OF IDIOT OR CONNING JEWISH
ADVISORS TO THE REPUG DOPES BROUGHT ABOUT WARS AGAINST ARABS THAT KNEW
NOTHING ABOUT TERRORISM TILL AMERICA BROUGHT IT TO THEM.
AND TO FURTHER JEWISH SUPPORT DESPITE THEIR INCREDIBLY DISHONEST AND
GENOCIDAL IRSAELI GOVERNMENT AMERICA WENT INTO RECESSION TO SUPPORT
JEWISH/ISRAELI GAINS IN BOTH MONEY AND LANDS WHICH APPARENTLY BUSH THOUGHT
THE AMERICANS WOULD GLADLY PAY FOR WITH THEIR JOBS AND HOMES.
PJ O'Donovan
> AND TO FURTHER JEWISH SUPPORT DESPITE THEIR INCREDIBLY DISHONEST AND
> GENOCIDAL IRSAELI GOVERNMENT AMERICA WENT INTO RECESSION TO SUPPORT
> JEWISH/ISRAELI GAINS IN BOTH MONEY AND LANDS WHICH APPARENTLY BUSH THOUGHT
> THE AMERICANS WOULD GLADLY PAY FOR WITH THEIR JOBS AND HOMES.
Somebody tell this guy that he has gone off half cocked
CNN exit poll data 2008 election
Vote by Religion
Jewish
78% (Obama)
21% (McCain)
1%
Cnn exit poll data 2004 election
Jewish
74% (Kerry)
23% (Bush
Bob Hawke
2 january, 2010
Danish police said they shot and wounded a Somali man with Al Qaeda links
when he tried to break into the home of a cartoonist whose 2005 caricatures
of Prophet Mohammad outraged many Muslims.
The 28-year-old man, armed with a knife and axe, failed to get into Kurt
Westergaard's home in the town of Aarhus late on Friday and was shot in the
leg and hand after he threw the axe at a policeman, a police spokesman said.
The man, who was now under arrest, had "close ties to the Somali terror
organisation Al Shabaab as well as to Al Qaeda leaders in East Africa," the
Danish Security and Intelligence Service PET said in a statement.
It said the man, who had a legal residence permit for Denmark, was also
"suspected of being involved in terror-related activities in East Africa".
The security service said the man, who would be charged with attempting to
kill Mr Westergaard and the police officer, had been involved in a
"terror-related network" that has long been under investigation in
connection with threats to Mr Westergaard.
"PET looks very seriously upon this case which once again confirms the
terror threat directed against Denmark and the cartoonist Kurt Westergaard
in particular," PET chief Jakob Scharf said in the statement.
Mr Westergaard was not hurt in the incident, a police spokesman said.
He said police were still investigating whether the Somali man acted alone.
Last year US authorities arrested two men in Chicago who were suspected of
planning attacks on Mr Westergaard and his newspaper Jyllands-Posten, which
published the caricatures of Prophet Mohammed.
John Rennie
They weren't just caricatures. We ought to remind ourselves that
one of the pictures portrayed Mohammed with a bomb. I cant help
thinking that if some 'artist' somewhere did a similar portrait of
Christ with a bomb someone would try and kill him.
Wikking
..or Christ performing an abortion. I am curious about Westegaard
though. Is he a Jewish Dane and simply stirring the pot with his own
ethnic, non-Danish agenda?
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have become the dupes and stooges of foreign intelligence services
that wish to see the US destabilized by a bunch of fools - they must
be laughing their heads off at these wingnuts who are so ready to be
their pawns...
abelard
<john-...@talktalk.net> wrote:
>They weren't just caricatures. We ought to remind ourselves that
>one of the pictures portrayed Mohammed with a bomb. I cant help
>thinking that if some 'artist' somewhere did a similar portrait of
>Christ with a bomb someone would try and kill him.
yeah, it happens every every day
trillions of them....murdering at random....
man caused disasters on every hand (all twelve of them)
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McKevvy
I very much doubt it. There's not even half the fanatic christians as
there are fanatical muslims.
McKevvy
John Rennie
I take it that you were or still are a Christian. You never know, that
fact might add a smidgen of prejudice to your views
Lou Ravi
> Bob Hawke wrote:
> which published the caricatures of Prophet Mohammed.
> They weren't just caricatures. We ought to remind ourselves that
> one of the pictures portrayed Mohammed with a bomb.
He had a turban/hat in the shape of a bomb.
> I cant help
> thinking that if some 'artist' somewhere did a similar portrait of
> Christ with a bomb someone would try and kill him.
Oh that's alright then.
Lou Ravi
> Cartoonist home attacker had 'terror links'
> 2 january, 2010
>
> Danish police said they shot and wounded a Somali man with Al Qaeda
> links
Great stuff, they arrest him one day and, oh miracle, they already know the
next day he has 'al-qaeda' links. More bullshit from the War On Terror
liars.
John Rennie
just not an action peculiar to Muslims.
John Rennie
He's from Somalia. Al Qaeda are supposed to have contacts there
so he must be one of their agents. Simple really :-)
Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously)
Al Qaeda has become more a holding company than a single coherent
organization. Anyone can "join" by just doing an act of terrorism.
--
Tiger tells eleven mistresses, "I will leave my wife for you."
#2066
> Cartoonist home attacker had 'terror links' 2 january, 2010
>
> Danish police said they shot and wounded a Somali man with Al Qaeda
> links when he tried to break into the home of a cartoonist whose 2005
> caricatures of Prophet Mohammad outraged many Muslims.
I expect and hope that the assailant will be prosecuted to the fullest
extent of the law.
[...]
>
> Mr Westergaard was not hurt in the incident, a police spokesman said.
No, Mr. Westergaard showed his heroism by locking himself inside his panic
room, while leaving his 5-year-old granddaughter, who was visiting for a
sleep-over, outside to fend for herself.
Eunometic
The Danes aren't too happy either.
Jews, even today, support high levels of immigration into the western
countries they live in. This is to dilute the ethnic homgenity of
White European Christians because Jews are raised to be deeply
alianated from the European communities they live amongst and
promotion of immigration and multiculturalism is one way they can
express this alienation and hostility covertly rather than overtly.
The mean spirited 'war against christmass' waged by the ADL and
sometimes ACLU (same thing really) is another manifestation.
Recently some Jews have become alarmed since most of the immigrants
are muslims and that religion (really more a poltical ideology) is
profoundly distrustfull of Jews and will never accept Jewish
influence. The Koran deals extensively with Jewish-Muslim issues and
the inate scepticism of Islam towards Judaism will hence never be
overcome.
Muslims will soon be the demographic majority in Europe: about 40
years at current trends.
The simple facts are this: Muslims, mainly of Nth African origin,
comprise some 4% of the population of Denmark. This gives us
approximetly:
a/ 68% of the rapists in prison.
b/ 57% of all crime.
c/ 40% of welfare dependency.
Fact: Mulsim immigration has more than doubled crime in Denmark.
Fact: In one generation the idiocy of Danish liberals has produced
American style racial problems in Denmark.
Now whether a black muslm rapist has 12 times the rape rate of a
native
Dane for racial, religious or socio-economc reasons is immaterial to
the victim. You almost always get this with black piopulations, (you
have it in the USA and UK) and you often get this effect with
muslims.
Low IQ, racial effects and and arrogant attitude of this religion to
non
muslims form a synergistic feedback loop that produces welfare
dependent rapists and criminals.
Note the appologist tone of the daming statistics:
"If one leading expert is to be believed, the sharp rise in the
number
of rapes in this over the last 5 years is largely attributable to a
group of unemployed and alienated immigrants. 'Over the last 5-10
years
there has an increasing tendency to marginalise and alienate
immigrants,'
says Professor Flemming Balvig, a criminologist at Copenhagen
University. 'As a result, many second generation immigrants have
reacted against this through varioustypes of criminal activity,
including rape.' Although the number of reported rapes reached a peak
of 600 in 1986 after which it fell steadily until 1996, since then
the
figure has increased again from 388 to 497, equivalent to a whopping
25
per cent jump. 'Rape is often committed by young men for whom it also
represents a kind of proof of manhood. And if you look at the
figures,
men with an immigrant background are grossly over-represented,
compared
to the proportion of the population they make up,' he maintains. His
theory is backed up by a 1998 Justice Ministry survey on crime, which
found that immigrants were over-represented by an average of 46 per
cent. In addition, the recent publication of a report from the
Copenhagen police shows that 47.5 per cent of prisoners on remand for
serious crimes such as murder, attempted murder and rape come from
immigrant backgrounds.
'Although the percentage of foreigners committing rape is
proportionally higher than it should be, on average we only get one
and
> It is clear that the "Birthers", "Teabaggers", politicians and media
> hosts or pundits that purvey messages of resistance, insurrection and
> don't want their kids to go to school to hear the words of the POTUS
> have become the dupes and stooges of foreign intelligence services
> that wish to see the US destabilized by a bunch of fools - they must
> be laughing their heads off at these wingnuts who are so ready to be
> their pawns...- Hide quoted text -
Tea baggers are enemies of the neocons.
Planet Visitor II
>On Sun, 03 Jan 2010 23:39:00 +1000, Bob Hawke wrote:
>
>> Cartoonist home attacker had 'terror links' 2 january, 2010
>>
>> Danish police said they shot and wounded a Somali man with Al Qaeda
>> links when he tried to break into the home of a cartoonist whose 2005
>> caricatures of Prophet Mohammad outraged many Muslims.
>
>I expect and hope that the assailant will be prosecuted to the fullest
>extent of the law.
>
I hope that they cut off his dick and feed it to the pigs.
Planet Visitor II
http://alt-activism-death-penalty.info/dictionary.html
Donna Evleth
> From: #2066 <nes...@hotmail.com>
> Newsgroups:
> alt.activism.death-penalty,talk.politics.misc,uk.politics.misc,aus.politics
> Date: Sun, 03 Jan 2010 19:36:19 -0500
> Subject: Re: Hero Danish Catoonist's Home (Kurt Westergaard) Attacked by
> Somali Islamic Arselifter.
This morning's International Herald Tribune says Mr. Westergaard had his
5-year-old granddaughter with him in the panic room, actually a bathroom.
It says "... a reinforced bathroom door protected the artist, Kurt
Westergaard, 74, who was shielding his 5-year-old granddaughter as the
attacker, armed with an ax and a knife and shouting "Revenge!", "Blood!"
tried to smash through the door..."
Donna Evleth
Wikking
Just curious, is Westergaard Jewish by any chance?
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Foe
>
> - Show quoted text -
Prejudice is one thing, fact is another.
John Rennie
And your comment was a fact? Cite please.
Lou Ravi
How the fuck does that matter? A man was attacked by a loony, it stops
there.
Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF
Does he go to your synagogue? Maybe you can hook him up with Donna the dyke.
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"The Labour Party is corrupt beyond redemption!"
- Labour hasbeen Mark Latham in a moment of honest clarity.
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- Paul Keating explaining why he gave Australia another Labour recession.
"Silly old bugger!"
- Well known ACTU pisspot and sometime Labour prime minister Bob Hawke
responding to a pensioner who dared ask for more.
"By 1990, no child will live in poverty"
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"A billion trees ..."
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"SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU DUMB CUNT!"
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Wikking
connections to stir shit in a provocative way in order fuel the flames
then I have an issue with that. The pair of them should be deported.
Wikking
John Rennie
If it matters that much to you, you should do a little searching.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurt_Westergaard
Not a trace of Jewishness - you must be very disappointed.
Wikking
Not at all. it was merely a question. We are allowed to ask questions,
aren't we? Or would you ban questions?
Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously)
A few more minutes and it's "Here's Johnny!" time.
Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously)
Wikking wrote:
>
> John Rennie wrote:
> > Wikking wrote:
> >> Lou Ravi wrote:
> >>> Wikking wrote:
>
> >>>> Just curious, is Westergaard Jewish by any chance?
> >>> How the fuck does that matter? A man was attacked by a loony, it
> >>> stops there.
> >>>
> >> No it does matter. If Westergaard is Jewish and is using his media
> >> connections to stir shit in a provocative way in order fuel the flames
> >> then I have an issue with that. The pair of them should be deported.
> >>
> >
> >
> > If it matters that much to you, you should do a little searching.
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurt_Westergaard
> >
> > Not a trace of Jewishness - you must be very disappointed.
>
> Not at all. it was merely a question. We are allowed to ask questions,
> aren't we? Or would you ban questions?
>
I've got a question, what does "Wikking" mean? Your repeated
references to Jews in a negative light makes me wonder what you are
getting at with such a nym.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5th_SS_Panzer_Division_Wiking#War_crimes
#begin quote
War crimes
Members of the division's bakery column, led by Obersturmf�hrer
Braunnagel and Untersturmf�hrer Kochalty, assisted Einsatzgruppe A
in rounding up Ukrainian Jews. Witnesses report that the Jewish
victims were forced to run a gauntlet formed by soldiers who would
beat them as they passed, and when they reached the end of the
gauntlet, Einsatzgruppen officers murdered them and their bodies
were pushed into a bomb crater. The German 1st Mountain Division is
also suspected of being implicated. Between 50 and 60 Jews were
killed in this manner, as a part of the larger Einsatzgruppe
operation which resulted in over 700 murders.
In addition historian Eleonore Lappin from the Institute for the
History of Jews in Austria has documented several cases of war
crimes committed by members of the 5 SS Division Wiking in her work
The Death Marches of Hungarian Jews Through Austria in the Spring
of 1945
On March 28 1945 eighty Jews from evacuation column, though fit for
the journey, had been shot by three members of the Waffen SS
division ;;Wiking and five military policemen. On April 4, twenty
members of another column that left Graz tried to escape near
Eggenfeld, not far from Gratkorn. Soldiers from the 5 SS Division
Wiking that were temporarily stationed there apprehended them in
the forest near Mt. Eggenfeld and then herded them in a gully,
where they were shot. On April 7 and 11, 1945 members of the
division executed another eighteen escaped prisoners. 5 SS Division
Wiking war crimes have not been confirmed, mostly because they were
not proven guilty in the Nuremberg trials.[8]
[edit] Josef Mengele
The notorious Dr. Josef Mengele, served with the SS Division Wiking
during its early campaigns. According to all accounts, he performed
the normal duties of a combat medic, even being awarded the Iron
Cross for saving two wounded men from a tank. After being wounded,
Mengele was deemed unfit for combat and was absorbed into the SS
Nazi concentration camp system, where he gained his infamy. Mengele
was very proud of his Waffen SS service and his front-line
decorations.
#end quote
Wikking
>
> Wikking wrote:
>> John Rennie wrote:
>>> Wikking wrote:
>>>> Lou Ravi wrote:
>>>>> Wikking wrote:
>>>>>> Just curious, is Westergaard Jewish by any chance?
>>>>> How the fuck does that matter? A man was attacked by a loony, it
>>>>> stops there.
>>>>>
>>>> No it does matter. If Westergaard is Jewish and is using his media
>>>> connections to stir shit in a provocative way in order fuel the flames
>>>> then I have an issue with that. The pair of them should be deported.
>>>>
>>>
>>> If it matters that much to you, you should do a little searching.
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurt_Westergaard
>>>
>>> Not a trace of Jewishness - you must be very disappointed.
>> Not at all. it was merely a question. We are allowed to ask questions,
>> aren't we? Or would you ban questions?
>>
> I've got a question, what does "Wikking" mean? Your repeated
> references to Jews in a negative light makes me wonder what you are
> getting at with such a nym.
It means that genetically and nominally I am a member of the Norse
tribes. Who, I might remind you, in Norway and in Denmark had some
pretty good anti-Nazi resistance movements.
Donna Evleth
> From: Wikking <Wik.King!@yahoo.co.uk>
> Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
> Newsgroups:
> alt.activism.death-penalty,talk.politics.misc,uk.politics.misc,aus.politics
> Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2010 06:17:59 -0500
I have not found any evidence of this.
Donna Evleth
Donna Evleth
> From: "Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously)"
> <tribuylt...@yahoo.co.uk>
> Organization: Our legacy is not the lives we lived but the lives we leave to
> those who come after us.
> Newsgroups:
> alt.activism.death-penalty,talk.politics.misc,uk.politics.misc,aus.politics
> Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2010 17:55:03 +0000
Do you really have to trivialize everything with your idiotic TV references?
This man was attacked, and had to take refuge in a secured room of his
house, shielding his 5-year-old granddaughter. He did very well. But, as
John Rennie will also tell you, he was born in a very good year.
Donna Evleth
Donna Evleth
> From: Wikking <Wik.King!@yahoo.co.uk>
> Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
> Newsgroups:
> alt.activism.death-penalty,talk.politics.misc,uk.politics.misc,aus.politics
> Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2010 13:31:17 -0500
> Subject: Re: Hero Danish Catoonist's Home (Kurt Westergaard) Attacked
> bySomali Islamic Arselifter.
>
> Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously) wrote:
>>
>> Wikking wrote:
>>> John Rennie wrote:
>>>> Wikking wrote:
>>>>> Lou Ravi wrote:
>>>>>> Wikking wrote:
>>>>>>> Just curious, is Westergaard Jewish by any chance?
>>>>>> How the fuck does that matter? A man was attacked by a loony, it
>>>>>> stops there.
>>>>>>
>>>>> No it does matter. If Westergaard is Jewish and is using his media
>>>>> connections to stir shit in a provocative way in order fuel the flames
>>>>> then I have an issue with that. The pair of them should be deported.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If it matters that much to you, you should do a little searching.
>>>>
>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurt_Westergaard
>>>>
>>>> Not a trace of Jewishness - you must be very disappointed.
>>> Not at all. it was merely a question. We are allowed to ask questions,
>>> aren't we? Or would you ban questions?
>>>
>> I've got a question, what does "Wikking" mean? Your repeated
>> references to Jews in a negative light makes me wonder what you are
>> getting at with such a nym.
>
> It means that genetically and nominally I am a member of the Norse
> tribes. Who, I might remind you, in Norway and in Denmark had some
> pretty good anti-Nazi resistance movements.
I seem to remember also that the Danes got almost all of their Jews away to
neutral Sweden, thus allowing them to survive the war.
Donna Evleth
John Rennie
Look carefully at my response. Did I infer that you were
not allowed to ask questions? Indeed I took your question
seriously and gave you a complete answer. Stop reacting
like a spoilt child.
#2066
[..]
> This morning's International Herald Tribune says Mr. Westergaard had his
> 5-year-old granddaughter with him in the panic room, actually a
> bathroom. It says "... a reinforced bathroom door protected the artist,
> Kurt Westergaard, 74, who was shielding his 5-year-old granddaughter as
> the attacker, armed with an ax and a knife and shouting "Revenge!",
> "Blood!" tried to smash through the door..."
>
> Donna Evleth
The Sunday Times
<http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/article6973966.ece> disagrees:
"He did not have time to collect the child from the living room before
locking himself into a "panic room", a specially fortified bathroom.
He said the assailant had shouted "swear words, really crude words"
and shrieked about "blood" and "revenge", as he smashed the axe in
vain against the bathroom door."
However, I hope the International Herald Tribune is right.
John Rennie
> Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously) wrote:
>> Wikking wrote:
>>> John Rennie wrote:
>>>> Wikking wrote:
>>>>> Lou Ravi wrote:
>>>>>> Wikking wrote:
>>>>>>> Just curious, is Westergaard Jewish by any chance?
>>>>>> How the fuck does that matter? A man was attacked by a loony, it
>>>>>> stops there.
>>>>>>
>>>>> No it does matter. If Westergaard is Jewish and is using his media
>>>>> connections to stir shit in a provocative way in order fuel the flames
>>>>> then I have an issue with that. The pair of them should be deported.
>>>>>
>>>> If it matters that much to you, you should do a little searching.
>>>>
>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurt_Westergaard
>>>>
>>>> Not a trace of Jewishness - you must be very disappointed.
>>> Not at all. it was merely a question. We are allowed to ask questions,
>>> aren't we? Or would you ban questions?
>>>
>> I've got a question, what does "Wikking" mean? Your repeated
>> references to Jews in a negative light makes me wonder what you are
>> getting at with such a nym.
>
> It means that genetically and nominally I am a member of the Norse
> tribes. Who, I might remind you, in Norway and in Denmark had some
> pretty good anti-Nazi resistance movements.
>
>
Lou Ravi
> And in Sweden?
Neutral. It wasn't in the war so had nothing to resist, except morally.
John Rennie
the Norse tribes weren't quite so fierce there.
Foe
>
> - Show quoted text -
I was speaking to McKewy's comment about Muslims acting as terrorists
more often than Christians. Do you really need evidence of this?
Wikking
We sold Bofors to all comers.
Wikking
Germany needed Swedish weapons and of course perhaps you'd like to
talk about the scum that murdered Bernadotte. Or perhaps some
terrorists are YOUR heroes?
John Rennie
> John Rennie wrote:
>> Lou Ravi wrote:
>>> John Rennie wrote:
>>>> Wikking wrote:
>>>>> It means that genetically and nominally I am a member of the Norse
>>>>> tribes. Who, I might remind you, in Norway and in Denmark had some
>>>>> pretty good anti-Nazi resistance movements.
>>>> And in Sweden?
>>> Neutral. It wasn't in the war so had nothing to resist, except morally.
>>>
>> Honestly I did know that. I was just wondering why
>> the Norse tribes weren't quite so fierce there.
>
> Germany needed Swedish weapons and of course perhaps you'd like to
> talk about the scum that murdered Bernadotte. Or perhaps some
> terrorists are YOUR heroes?
>
yitzhak in eretz isreal (sic)
> Wikking wrote:
Anyone who thrashes the Nazi pile of slime 'Wikking' is labelled 'a Jew'.
However, 'Wikking' (another Nazi cunt who doesn't have the balls to post
under his real name..) should be aware that 'John Rennie' is a Jew-hater
himself, who claims that Israel 'should not exist'.
So stop fighting, boys, and smooch up...
Y.
--
Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein
AADP's 'left-wing Israeli intellectual'
'I love California. I practically grew up in Phoenix'
(Dan Quayle)
<http://elderofziyon.blogspot.com/>
Wikking
It's just a question, it's either a yes or no.
John Rennie
> John Rennie wrote:
>> Wikking wrote:
>>> John Rennie wrote:
>>>> Lou Ravi wrote:
>>>>> John Rennie wrote:
>>>>>> Wikking wrote:
>>>>>>> It means that genetically and nominally I am a member of the Norse
>>>>>>> tribes. Who, I might remind you, in Norway and in Denmark had some
>>>>>>> pretty good anti-Nazi resistance movements.
>>>>>> And in Sweden?
>>>>> Neutral. It wasn't in the war so had nothing to resist, except morally.
>>>>>
>>>> Honestly I did know that. I was just wondering why
>>>> the Norse tribes weren't quite so fierce there.
>>> Germany needed Swedish weapons and of course perhaps you'd like to
>>> talk about the scum that murdered Bernadotte. Or perhaps some
>>> terrorists are YOUR heroes?
>>>
>> I'm now supposed to be a Jew - is that it?
>
> It's just a question, it's either a yes or no.
>
whether I'm Jewish or not. But I'm anti the terrorists
who killed Bernadotte and who blew up the King David
Hotel. Indeed I'm anti ALL terrorists - I'm not quite so
sure about 'freedom fighters'. I'll leave you to
work out the difference.
Wikking
I never asked if you were Jewish but you seem to think that putting
words in my mouth will define me to you and others. That's a spurious
concept...
John Rennie
Bernadotte. Or have I? To us they were terrorists
to others they were freedom fighters.
Lucky
"Wikking" <Wik.King!@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:hhtc5p$k8a$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
> Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously) wrote:
>>
>> Wikking wrote:
>>> John Rennie wrote:
>>>> Wikking wrote:
>>>>> Lou Ravi wrote:
>>>>>> Wikking wrote:
>>>>>>> Just curious, is Westergaard Jewish by any chance?
>>>>>> How the fuck does that matter? A man was attacked by a loony, it
>>>>>> stops there.
>>>>>>
>>>>> No it does matter. If Westergaard is Jewish and is using his media
>>>>> connections to stir shit in a provocative way in order fuel the flames
>>>>> then I have an issue with that. The pair of them should be deported.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If it matters that much to you, you should do a little searching.
>>>>
>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurt_Westergaard
>>>>
>>>> Not a trace of Jewishness - you must be very disappointed.
>>> Not at all. it was merely a question. We are allowed to ask questions,
>>> aren't we? Or would you ban questions?
>>>
>> I've got a question, what does "Wikking" mean? Your repeated
>> references to Jews in a negative light makes me wonder what you are
>> getting at with such a nym.
>
> It means that genetically and nominally I am a member of the Norse
> tribes. >
>
I was wondering whether the Norse tribes were democrats or republicans.
Wikking
To me, like those who blew up the King David hotel, they are just
terrorist scum. But hey, what goes around, comes around...
Wikking
Strangely conservative in many respects. Especially the women.
Beautiful to be sure but oddly old-fashioned in many many ways.
John Rennie
who conducted the 'Boston Tea Party'.
Arthur Brain
> Lou Ravi wrote:
> > John Rennie wrote:
>
> >> which published the caricatures of Prophet Mohammed.
>
> >> They weren't just caricatures. We ought to remind ourselves that
> >> one of the pictures portrayed Mohammed with a bomb.
>
>
> >> I cant help
> >> thinking that if some 'artist' somewhere did a similar portrait of
> >> Christ with a bomb someone would try and kill him.
>
>
> No it's not all right nor did I suggest that it was. It is
> just not an action peculiar to Muslims.
But that's the whole point of the cartoons - Islam is a religion which
is inextricably associated with violence.
How many more cartoonists/filmmakers/authors have to be attacked by
muslims to prove the point to you?
Arthur Brain
> >> Cartoonist home attacker had 'terror links'
> >> 2 january, 2010
>
> >> Danish police said they shot and wounded a Somali man with Al Qaeda
> >> links
>
> > next day he has 'al-qaeda' links. More bullshit from the War On Terror
> > liars.
> Oh it's an easy deduction on the part of Danish 'Intelligence'.
> He's from Somalia. Al Qaeda are supposed to have contacts there
> so he must be one of their agents. Simple really :-)
He was actually known to PET. But they gave him a visa to enter
Denmark anyway. Perhaps they were hoping for the chance to shoot the
bastard?
Arthur Brain
...killing Bernadotte in the fight to liberate Sweden from...er, what,
exactly?
The arseholes who setup the state of Israel were terrorists and the
fact they go around murdering UN envoys proves it.
John Rennie
Christianity is a religion inextricably linked with violence.
The answer; cease believing in man-made religions.
John Rennie
Do you know who was responsible for 'setting up' the State of
Israel?
Arthur Brain
No it isn't. Jesus preached love, not gang-rape.
And christianity went through many reforms which led to today's
secular culture.
Islam is still wallowing in the dark ages.
> The answer; cease believing in man-made religions.
I'm inclined to believe Dawkins when he says the bizarrely widespread
attachment to religious fantasy must by a genetic by-product of our
other intellectual faculties.
Arthur Brain
Terrorists from Irgun, Haganah and other murdering thugs banded
together and imposed their non-secular and racist state by force after
murdering many thousands of people and ethnically-cleansing 800,000
people from their homes - tricks they learnt no doubt from their Nazi
allies from whom they tried to get armed support to kill british
soldiers stationed in Palestine during WW2.
I suspect you're going to mention the UN next - before you make an
arse of yourself by doing that, go back and read the UN proposal for
the partition of Palestine and you will find that:
- Israel does not comply with the UN proposal
- Palestinians rejected the proposal
- Zionists rejected the proposal.
The UN did not setup Israel, terrorists did and they are still running
it.
John Rennie
I could have put money on the fact that you wouldn't know.
Most here do.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour_Declaration_of_1917
Ladies and Gentlemen - I give you the British.
Wikking
So which hotel did they blow up?
Wikking
Which part of it upsets you? This?
> These changes came about partly as the result of the urgings of Edwin Samuel Montagu,
>an influential anti-Zionist Jew and Secretary of State for India, who, among others,
>was concerned that the declaration without those changes could result in increased anti-Semitic persecution.
Wikipedia from 1917?
>
> Ladies and Gentlemen - I give you the British.
Clearly you know nothing about the Brits and are a poseur with a Scots
surname.
John Rennie
So you actually deny the fact that the British who created a state
home for the Jews in Palestine were not the creators of the State
of Israel. That's an example of monumental stupidity on your part for
refusing to believe a cold solid fact. Without that state home
there would have been no bais for a state.
Wikking
They certainly left you all to figure it out for yourselves after you
started murdering them and others like Bernadotte for saving you from
the Nazis.
Good luck with that then.
Mitchell Holman
news:SJidnSE_Va4UNd7W...@giganews.com:
Is there any other kind?
Mitchell Holman
4fa9-a23f-0...@s31g2000yqs.googlegroups.com:
> On Jan 6, 8:01�am, John Rennie <john-ren...@talktalk.net> wrote:
>> Arthur Brain wrote:
>> > On Jan 4, 5:32 am, John Rennie <john-ren...@talktalk.net> wrote:
>> >> Lou Ravi wrote:
>> >>> John Rennie wrote:
>> >>>> Bob Hawke wrote:
>> >>>> which published the caricatures of Prophet Mohammed.
>> >>>> They weren't just caricatures. �We ought to remind ourselves that
>> >>>> one of the pictures portrayed Mohammed with a bomb.
>> >>> He had a turban/hat in the shape of a bomb.
>> >>>> I cant help
>> >>>> thinking that if some 'artist' somewhere did a similar portrait
of
>> >>>> Christ with a bomb someone would try and kill him.
>> >>> Oh that's alright then.
>> >> No it's not all right nor did I suggest that it was. �It is
>> >> just not an action peculiar to Muslims.
>>
>> > But that's the whole point of the cartoons - Islam is a religion
which
>> > is inextricably associated with violence.
>> > How many more cartoonists/filmmakers/authors have to be attacked by
>> > muslims to prove the point to you?
>>
>> Christianity is a religion inextricably linked with violence.
>
> No it isn't. Jesus preached love, not gang-rape.
>
"If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother,
and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and
his own life also, he cannot be my disciple."
Luke 14:26
> And christianity went through many reforms which led to today's
> secular culture.
Progress = moving away from religion.
> Islam is still wallowing in the dark ages.
And Christianity is still wallowing in the stone ages.
"For six days, work is to be done, but the seventh day
shall be your holy day, a Sabbath of rest to the LORD .
Whoever does any work on it must be put to death."
Exodus 35:2.
>
>> The answer; cease believing in man-made religions.
>
> I'm inclined to believe Dawkins when he says the bizarrely widespread
> attachment to religious fantasy must by a genetic by-product of our
> other intellectual faculties.
Mankind is slow outgrowing the need for religion.
In some places faster than others, to be sure...........
Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously)
Christianity isn't linked to violence.
--
Tiger tells eleven mistresses, "I will leave my wife for you."
Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously)
I think that means he has to be completely committed to be a
disciple.
> > And christianity went through many reforms which led to today's
> > secular culture.
>
> Progress = moving away from religion.
>
> > Islam is still wallowing in the dark ages.
>
> And Christianity is still wallowing in the stone ages.
>
Christianity has passed through the Reformation and doesn't attempt
to decide the affairs of sovereign nation states. Islam isn't doing
that and that is a large part of the problem.
> "For six days, work is to be done, but the seventh day
> shall be your holy day, a Sabbath of rest to the LORD .
> Whoever does any work on it must be put to death."
> Exodus 35:2.
>
You first.
Svenne
<john-...@talktalk.net> wrote:
>The answer; cease believing in man-made religions.
That would be all religions then.
Svenne
John Rennie
but they are your own,
John Rennie
>
John Rennie
Yes.
Mitchell Holman
news:4B43FD6C...@yahoo.co.uk:
LOL!
Good one, Bonde.
A real keeper.............
Wikking
You'd think if they were all "man-made" man could undo them. No words,
thoughts or writings of men or women have been able to do that though.
Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously)
You are a kook.
Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously)
What percentage of the total set, Christians, have ever committed
any acts of violence based on their Christian views?
Donna Evleth
> From: "Bill Bonde {Colour me colourless)"
> <tribuylt...@yahoo.co.uk>
> Organization: Our legacy is not the lives we lived but the lives we leave to
> those who come after us.
> Newsgroups:
> alt.activism.death-penalty,talk.politics.misc,uk.politics.misc,aus.politics
> Date: Wed, 06 Jan 2010 16:50:44 +0000
> Subject: Re: Hero Danish Catoonist's Home (Kurt Westergaard) Attacked by
> Somali Islamic Arselifter.
I thought you didn't go in for personal attacks, only disagreed with ideas.
"You are a kook." strikes me as a personal attack.
Donna Evleth
Donna Evleth
> From: "Bill Bonde {Colour me colourless)"
> <tribuylt...@yahoo.co.uk>
> Organization: Our legacy is not the lives we lived but the lives we leave to
> those who come after us.
> Newsgroups:
> alt.activism.death-penalty,talk.politics.misc,uk.politics.misc,aus.politics
> Date: Wed, 06 Jan 2010 17:27:29 +0000
> Subject: Re: Hero Danish Catoonist's Home (Kurt Westergaard) Attacked by
> Somali Islamic Arselifter.
>
>
>
Protestants and Catholics in Northern Ireland? They are theoretically both
Christians, but each thinks the other's Christianity is not the "real"
Christianity.
Donna Evleth
Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously)
Do you really think that those who are (or were) committing the
violence are all that devote? The Peace of Westphalia obviously
takes some time to get out that far.
> They are theoretically both
> Christians, but each thinks the other's Christianity is not the "real"
> Christianity.
>
Do you think that just maybe the underlying argument was similar to
the one between the Americans and the Canadians, that is whether or
not to separate from the British Empire?
Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously)
That's usually the case, which is why Holman is so noteworthy.
> "You are a kook." strikes me as a personal attack.
>
It is a personal attack.
John Rennie
Together with Protestants and Catholics in Europe (30 years war).
But surely the Conquistadors were perhaps the most violent
Christians ever.
>
Wikking
Well, you know, who has beaten Christianity long-term so far...?
All the non-Christians keep losing despite MASSIVE attempts to get
Christians to fight Christians. It's all rather funny really...
John Rennie
managed to crush anything in its way.
Mitchell Holman
That, from the "I don't post personal attacks" Bonde.......
Wikking
Still doing so. All the rest is background noise of plate shifts as
worlds and religions collide.
Donna Evleth
> From: "Bill Bonde {Colour me colourless)"
> <tribuylt...@yahoo.co.uk>
> Organization: Our legacy is not the lives we lived but the lives we leave to
> those who come after us.
> Newsgroups:
> alt.activism.death-penalty,talk.politics.misc,uk.politics.misc,aus.politics
> Date: Wed, 06 Jan 2010 22:03:58 +0000
Perhaps the territorial idea is there, since looking at the geography it
would seem natural for Northern Ireland to be united with the Republic of
Ireland, and since the British were responsible for the original construct
in Northern Ireland. But it has gone beyond that now, and now religion is
the main focus. The Catholics want to unite with the south of the island so
as to escape their current minority religious status. The Protestants do
not want to unite with the south to protect their current majority status.
In fact there are no ethnic differences between the two groups, religion is
what divides them nnow.
Donna Evleth
John Rennie
Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously)
I think that the "Protestants" are those who are loyal to the
British government. I think that the "Catholics" are those who want
independence or want to have a united Ireland. I don't see how this
is a religious question.
Donna Evleth
> From: John Rennie <john-...@talktalk.net>
> Reply-To: john-...@talktalk.net
> Newsgroups:
> alt.activism.death-penalty,talk.politics.misc,uk.politics.misc,aus.politics
> Date: Thu, 07 Jan 2010 13:02:25 +0000
Since I don't come from there, I need to be educated in the nuances. Please
explain the ethnic differences.
Donna Evleth
Donna Evleth
> From: "Bill Bonde {Colour me colourless)"
> <tribuylt...@yahoo.co.uk>
> Organization: Our legacy is not the lives we lived but the lives we leave to
> those who come after us.
> Newsgroups:
> alt.activism.death-penalty,talk.politics.misc,uk.politics.misc,aus.politics
> Date: Thu, 07 Jan 2010 20:01:25 +0000
So please explain to me why this question obviously divides along religious
lines. Why are the different loyalties what they are? I suspect that both
the Catholics and the Protestants would be offended if they knew that you
put them in quotation marks.
Donna Evleth
Eunometic
> > From: "Bill Bonde {Colour me colourless)"
> > Organization: Our legacy is not the lives we lived but the lives we leave to
> > those who come after us.
> > Newsgroups:
> > alt.activism.death-penalty,talk.politics.misc,uk.politics.misc,aus.politics
> > Subject: Re: Hero Danish Catoonist's Home (Kurt Westergaard) Attacked by
> > Somali Islamic Arselifter.
>
> > John Rennie wrote:
>
> >> Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously) wrote:
>
> >>> Mitchell Holman wrote:
> Christians, but each thinks the other's Christianity is not the "real"
> Christianity.
This is not really a religious conflict but an ethnic one based on a
colonisation and also a civil war. In many ways it was equivalent to
the American civil war. The Northern Protestants immigrated perhaps
starting 500 years ago from Scotland and England while the Indigenous
Irish were dispossesed of farmland, their economy controlled from far
away (to the extent that when the potato crop failed the British
government failed to buy grain). A complicated situation but the
Irish won their independance after a fight, apart from the North.
In general there is no bloody conflict betweeen Catholics and
Protestants. That ended 400 hundred of years ago with the treaty of
Westphalia though there was a little untill the time of Napoleon:
Spanish Inquisition suppresed Protestantism and the St Bartholemew
days masacer of Huegenots.
John Rennie
The Protestant plantation was mainly culled from Scotland.
Actually the borders where they, the Scots, caused the most
trouble. There were a reasonable number of English but
they were a minority.
John Rennie
Religion was used as a cover for these wars. Islam has been used
in the same fashion. Religion is merely another way the 'robber
barons' control the poor.
Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously)
What's the religious argument? The Church of England and the
Catholic Church have big differences in their theological views
that warrant killing each other? I find that hard to believe. The
argument is one political independence. That's worth fighting over,
maybe. I put them in quotes because I think they are using the
terms nominally and not in any serious religious way.
Lou Ravi
> > > > Cartoonist home attacker had 'terror links'
> > > > 2 january, 2010
> >
> > > > Danish police said they shot and wounded a Somali man with Al
> > > > Qaeda links
> >
> > > Great stuff, they arrest him one day and, oh miracle, they
> > > already know the next day he has 'al-qaeda' links. More bullshit
> > > from the War On Terror liars.
>
> > Oh it's an easy deduction on the part of Danish 'Intelligence'.
> > He's from Somalia. Al Qaeda are supposed to have contacts there
> > so he must be one of their agents. Simple really :-)
>
> He was actually known to PET. But they gave him a visa to enter
> Denmark anyway. Perhaps they were hoping for the chance to shoot the
> bastard?
Yeah, he was also known to UK intelligence, also known to the CIA and yet he
got on the plane like my old grandma could.
Don't take people for idiots, the whole story is a load of bollocks just to
build up the excuses to take over Yemen, for me that is as clear as day,
just like Iraq, just like Afghanistan.
John Rennie
moon yet.
Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously)
I'm glad you haven't gone out into deep water yet, Rennie.
euno...@yahoo.com.au
> Eunometic wrote:
>
> Religion was used as a cover for these wars. Islam has been used
> in the same fashion. Religion is merely another way the 'robber
> barons' control the poor.- Hide quoted text -
Christianity was used as a cover for this but literacy and translation
of the New Testament eventualy ended the misuse of Christianity.
Islam has the Koran and there is definit support for holy war and
suppresion of non muslims in that.