There are influencial factions in Israel today who are far worse than any
Nazi or Communist. This is why the entire Middle East must either be a "
Nuclear Free Zone " or every nation in the region should be permitted to
have one. Israel is far too dangerous to be trusted.
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1126890.html
Just weeks after the arrest of alleged Jewish terrorist, Yaakov Teitel, a
West Bank rabbi on Monday released a book giving Jews permission to kill
Gentiles who threaten Israel.
Rabbi Yitzhak Shapiro, who heads the Od Yosef Chai Yeshiva in the Yitzhar
settlement, wrote in his book "The King's Torah" that even babies and
children can be killed if they pose a threat to the nation.
Shapiro based the majority of his teachings on passages quoted from the
Bible, to which he adds his opinions and beliefs.
"It is permissable to kill the Righteous among Nations even if they are not
responsible for the threatening situation," he wrote, adding: "If we kill a
Gentile who has sinned or has violated one of the seven commandments -
because we care about the commandments - there is nothing wrong with the
murder."
Several prominent rabbis, including Rabbi Yithak Ginzburg and Rabbi Yaakov
Yosef, have recommended the book to their students and followers.
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J Young
Jvis...@live.com
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> There are influencial factions in Israel today who are far worse than
> any Nazi or Communist. This is why the entire Middle East must either
> be a " Nuclear Free Zone "
....or a RELIGION free zone.
Believe it or not (eh), that may be easier then you think. Say
there was a scientific solution to the question of economics,
so that free trade markets really would work much better, and
say that with a little simple creativity there would be much
more democratic laws made that would really put 'the ordinary
people' in power in all nations ... then say all the middle
east nation peoples agreed and resolved to do it ...
The question of economics is much less understood then you
might think. The capitalist model of all out trade in just about
everything except violent crime is actually not a coherent free
trade model contrary to what people assume (because people think
in slogans). Free trade can be done much better: give everyone
a share of the land to use or rent out to someone who does (for
a price maximum), give every larger/non-entrepreneurial business
to the group of employees in ownership (open ownership), and
make sure the investment sector either doesn't invest or invests
in the common interest. To keep such a system functioning, you
put over that a representative democracy not based on infighting
of private clubs who vie for votes with on a national ballot
people almost nobody known intimately, but small groups of
people selecting their representative who works part-time in
government decision making councils and has the obligation to
be loyal to that group its wishes. The group can immediately
replace the representative, and all proceedings must always
be public. A major task of these representatives would be the
combining in sections with other such representatives in areas,
and to elect from between them in each such section of variable
sizes another representative for the village, city-neighborhood,
city, and county and national Government. The larger the area,
the larger the section. Because the people group in small groups,
they can intimately know their representative. There would be
thousand upon thousands of representatives in any nation. Tens
of thousands. Most would work part-time or indeed very sparsely
in the capacity of representative because there simply isn't that
much to decide. Most would be working most of the time as everyone
else would, in shops, in production, as farmers, as doctors and
lawyers, teachers and firemen, etc. This means the Government
decisions are made by people very much the same as the general
people. By their occupation, by their sheer number, and by the
average pay they receive in compensation for working in these
councils, and by them being responsible to the rest of the people
through these groups (and also through the general expressions
of will like Referendums with binding power). Because these
representatives when combining in sections must choose between
themselves for the larger area councils, they can again know
better those they are electing. Note also how you can steer a
representative by contacting its voter-group and arguing with
them. If most people participate in these voter groups, then the
whole of the people is essentially combined in the Government
decision making system.
It is apparently a little like Libya, though I don't know too much
about it. A difference as proposed here http://www.socialism.nl
is that the voter groups are very small (50 persons), that the
delegates can combine from their own initiative how they want,
and that it is all spelled out in strict binding laws and protocols.
The Libya model seems quite loose and even says it should be loose.
This model is tight.
The councils also have their own prescribed way of organizing
internally into grouplets of 10 representatives, who look at a
proposal, change it, and then try to get another such grouplet
to go along and negotiate with them. Once 2 grouplets agree
they can approach a third grouplet. This is of course also all
to be public. Can't have secretive Government. At the very least
there must be public able to visit all these deliberations of
councils and grouplets, and the records should always be kept and
published. It would certainly be honorable if even private
conversations that have happened by delegates with other delegates,
at least when they matter at some point are recounted and also put
into the records (obviously not everything can be recorded, but
if real deals have been made or insights developed, it could be
recapitulated as statements during a council meeting, thus ending
up in the records).
Say we do something like that in all the middle-eastern nations ?
--
http://www.socialism.nl
> There are influencial factions in Israel today who are far worse than
> any Nazi or Communist. This is why the entire Middle East must either
> be a " Nuclear Free Zone " or every nation in the region should be
> permitted to have one. Israel is far too dangerous to be trusted.
>
>
>
Thanks to the Germans, the five nuclear weapons delivery submarines Germany
sold them now puts the whole planet at risk of Zionist nuclear weaponry,
not just the neighborhood around Israel.
Did Hitler identify a problem the rest of the planet missed?
Don't think they'll attack America? Think again:
http://gtr5.com/
The Zionist bastards killed 3 of my friends on Liberty. They have yet to
pay the price for this war crime. The spooks in the crew have recordings
of Israeli pilots identifying Liberty as American and refusing to attack
it. They also have recordings of Israeli controllers giving them direct
orders to sink Liberty and kill all hands....a war crime unpunished.
They don't let me anywhere near the launch computers.....
--
Larry
Which country developed the nuclear menace, a tremendous effort that
caused the world to have nuclear weapons far sooner then if normal
technological progress would have been at work ?
Which country destroyed the democracy of Allende and killed him ?
Which country ... you get the picture ?
Which country murdered about a million people and threw 2 nations
in chaos to conquest their oil reserves ?
You are already following the Hitlerian way, Hitler burned the
Reichstag (or let it happen, or assisted, but completely misreacted
to it one way or the other), USA burned its WTC buildings with the
same results.
What nation sacrificed part of its army at Pearl Harbor, to get its
people to support WW2 ?
What nation then later elects the people who aided Hitler to be their
presidents ? ...
What nation is always the strong supporter of the zionight rebellion
state, with a lot of money ?
To make it a religion free zone, you will have to
get rid of the Muslim states. The Qu'ran and Hadiths
impose more restrictions on behavior than Judaism and
Christianity together, and also allow Muslims to kill
to establish the Muslim religion.
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are those of the Statistics Department or of Purdue University.
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hru...@stat.purdue.edu Phone: (765)494-6054 FAX: (765)494-0558
> In article <Xns9CCABF17B7FE6...@216.196.97.130>,
> Mitchell Holman <noe...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>"J" <Jvis...@live.com> wrote in news:3a6i2h....@news.alt.net:
>
>
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>>> There are influencial factions in Israel today who are far worse than
>>> any Nazi or Communist. This is why the entire Middle East must either
>>> be a " Nuclear Free Zone "
>
>
>
>> ....or a RELIGION free zone.
>
>
> To make it a religion free zone, you will have to
> get rid of the Muslim states. The Qu'ran and Hadiths
> impose more restrictions on behavior than Judaism and
> Christianity together, and also allow Muslims to kill
> to establish the Muslim religion.
>
How many religions have NOT killed
in order to establish themselves?