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Aviroce
May 24, 2012, 10:03:03 AM5/24/12
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ISRAEL HAPPIER COUNTRY, USA TAXPAYERS PAY
Aviroce
There is a movie in which the hero of Zorba the Greek acts as an ex-
lover perhaps rapist of a well-to-do woman who actually owns most of
the county he is living in. She puts a bounty of one million dollar
for killing him where every citizen of the county will get a share.
You find the hoodlums drinking in bars and telling him "Bar payments
are coming" infuriating him. Bounty on his head. Israel is the same.
Israel is enjoying all the money and resources American Jews and USA
are sending to it. They get the money, kill and dispossess
Palestinians, and have a party. Happy people at my and your expense,
the taxpayers. Is it not enough time to put an end to this mockery?
Aviroce
Aviroce
There is a movie in which the hero of Zorba the Greek acts as an ex-
lover perhaps rapist of a well-to-do woman who actually owns most of
the county he is living in. She puts a bounty of one million dollar
for killing him where every citizen of the county will get a share.
You find the hoodlums drinking in bars and telling him "Bar payments
are coming" infuriating him. Bounty on his head. Israel is the same.
Israel is enjoying all the money and resources American Jews and USA
are sending to it. They get the money, kill and dispossess
Palestinians, and have a party. Happy people at my and your expense,
the taxpayers. Is it not enough time to put an end to this mockery?
Aviroce
KickBoxer GR
May 24, 2012, 12:30:58 PM5/24/12
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On May 24, 5:03 pm, Aviroce <dudaras...@gmail.com> wrote:
> ISRAEL HAPPIER COUNTRY, USA TAXPAYERS PAY
> Aviroce
>
> There is a movie in which the hero of Zorba the Greek acts as an ex-
> lover perhaps rapist of a well-to-do woman who actually owns most of
> the county he is living in.
There is no such movie. Stop lying to promote the "Palestinian" cause.
> ISRAEL HAPPIER COUNTRY, USA TAXPAYERS PAY
> Aviroce
>
> There is a movie in which the hero of Zorba the Greek acts as an ex-
> lover perhaps rapist of a well-to-do woman who actually owns most of
> the county he is living in.
Laughing Muslim
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Jihadwatch
Hamas official admits Palestinians are invented people, says half are
Egyptians and half are Saudis
Newt Gingrich, call your office. "Hamas Minister of the Interior and
of National Security Fathi Hammad Slams Egypt over Fuel Shortage in
Gaza Strip, and Says: 'Half of the Palestinians Are Egyptians and the
Other Half Are Saudis,'" from MEMRI, March 23 (thanks to all who sent
this in):
Following are excerpts from an address by Hamas Minister of the
Interior and of National Security Fathi Hammad, aired by Al-Hekma TV
on March 23, 2012.
[...] Thus, the conspiracy is very clear. Al-Aqsa and the land of
Palestine represent the spearhead for Islam and for the Muslims.
Therefore, when we seek the help of our Arab brothers, we are not
seeking their help in order to eat, to live, to drink, to dress, or to
live a life of luxury. No. When we seek their help, it is in order to
continue to wage Jihad.
[...]
Allah be praised, we all have Arab roots, and every Palestinian, in
Gaza and throughout Palestine, can prove his Arab roots - whether from
Saudi Arabia, from Yemen, or anywhere. We have blood ties. So where is
your affection and mercy?
[...]
Personally, half my family is Egyptian. We are all like that. More
than 30 families in the Gaza Strip are called Al-Masri ["Egyptian"].
Brothers, half of the Palestinians are Egyptians and the other half
are Saudis.
Who are the Palestinians? We have many families called Al-Masri, whose
roots are Egyptian. Egyptian! They may be from Alexandria, from Cairo,
from Dumietta, from the North, from Aswan, from Upper Egypt. We are
Egyptians. We are Arabs. We are Muslims. We are a part of you....
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2012/04/hamas-official-admits-palestinians-are-invented-people-says-half-are-egyptians-and-half-are-saudis.html
http://www.jihadwatch.org/
Hamas official admits Palestinians are invented people, says half are
Egyptians and half are Saudis
Newt Gingrich, call your office. "Hamas Minister of the Interior and
of National Security Fathi Hammad Slams Egypt over Fuel Shortage in
Gaza Strip, and Says: 'Half of the Palestinians Are Egyptians and the
Other Half Are Saudis,'" from MEMRI, March 23 (thanks to all who sent
this in):
Following are excerpts from an address by Hamas Minister of the
Interior and of National Security Fathi Hammad, aired by Al-Hekma TV
on March 23, 2012.
[...] Thus, the conspiracy is very clear. Al-Aqsa and the land of
Palestine represent the spearhead for Islam and for the Muslims.
Therefore, when we seek the help of our Arab brothers, we are not
seeking their help in order to eat, to live, to drink, to dress, or to
live a life of luxury. No. When we seek their help, it is in order to
continue to wage Jihad.
[...]
Allah be praised, we all have Arab roots, and every Palestinian, in
Gaza and throughout Palestine, can prove his Arab roots - whether from
Saudi Arabia, from Yemen, or anywhere. We have blood ties. So where is
your affection and mercy?
[...]
Personally, half my family is Egyptian. We are all like that. More
than 30 families in the Gaza Strip are called Al-Masri ["Egyptian"].
Brothers, half of the Palestinians are Egyptians and the other half
are Saudis.
Who are the Palestinians? We have many families called Al-Masri, whose
roots are Egyptian. Egyptian! They may be from Alexandria, from Cairo,
from Dumietta, from the North, from Aswan, from Upper Egypt. We are
Egyptians. We are Arabs. We are Muslims. We are a part of you....
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2012/04/hamas-official-admits-palestinians-are-invented-people-says-half-are-egyptians-and-half-are-saudis.html
http://www.jihadwatch.org/
plainolamerican
May 25, 2012, 11:44:16 AM5/25/12
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way past time
jwshe...@satx.rr.com
May 25, 2012, 3:50:28 PM5/25/12
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The Farhud:
Roots of the Arab-Nazi Alliance in the Holocaust [Paperback]
Edwin Black (Author)
penetrating, pivotal and insightful February 7, 2011
By Gary Selikow
Format:PaperbackA penetrating, pivotal and insightful look into the
Islamic-Nazi alliance of World War II, the bloody pogrom of Jews by
Arab mobs in Baghdad in June, 1941, the background to these events and
the relevance of oil , ideology and Islam to these events.
Islam had a long history of hatred and subjugation of the Jews, known
as dhimnitude. The Jews in Islamic countries were reduced ton the
status of humiliated and subjugated second class citizens, with a
variety of laws to ensure this.
Dhimnis were barred from building any structure higher than a Muslims,
could not ride horses but only donkeys without saddles, could not
build any new houses of worship or repair existing ones and were
forbidden from making any noises that would attract attention to their
worship or burial of their dead.
They had to wear distinctive clothes to identify them, Jews had to
wear yellow, and the mandatory yellow patch which was forced upon the
Jews by the Nazis had it's origins in Baghdad, and not in Medieval
Europe as commonly believed.
The idea of Jews in the Middle East being sovereign in an independent
state, and not subjugated to Muslim rule and humiliated under Dhimni
status is what was intolerable to the Arabs and the roots of the
violent Arab rejection of the state of Israel, and before that of
migration of Jews into the Land of Israel. This was anathema to the
demand for Arab supremacy and dhimnitude
"Certainly the Palestinian population was accustomed to the many
migrants from the far reaches of the Ottoman Empire and especially the
extended Middle East who settled in the land. But the local Arab
community harbored a special resentment, at one level or another, for
all these new Jewish neighbours. They were after all Jews and as such
second class citizens beneath the Syrian Muslims, Lebanese Muslims,
Egyptian Muslims, and Turks who freely came and went from Palestine".
From 1920 attacks against Jews spread like wildfire in the Land of
Israel, instigated by Haj Amin al husseini, the bloodthirsty Jew-hater
and'Mufti of Jerusalem'.
The bloody 1929 pogroms and massacres of Jews that spread throughout
the Land of Israel in 1929 were sparked in September, 1928, by Jews at
the Western wall contravening the dhimni laws by erecting benches to
sit on at the wall, and partitions to separate men from women. Jews
were first massacred in Jerusalem and then the horrific massacres by
Arabs of Jews took place of the ancient Jewish community of Hebron.
"House to house they went bursting into every room looking for hiding
Jews. Religious scrolls or books were burned or torn to shreds. The
defenceless Jews were variously beheaded, castrated, their breasts and
fingers sliced off, and in some cases their eyes plucked from their
sockets. Infants and adults, men and women , it mattered not. The
carnage went on for hours, with the Arab policemen standing down.
Blood ran in streamlets down the narrow stone staircases outisde the
buildings.hose by house, room by room the savagery was repeated".
This was followed by the Arab pogroms against Jews of 1936, the Arab-
Nazi Alliance and the spread of the Holocaust to Iraq where Jews were
massacred horrifically in Baghdad by pro-Nazi Arab mobs. an event
which the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum has refused to
acknowledge, either for reasons of refusing to recongnize the equality
of Sephardi Jews to Ashkenazim, or a politically correct determination
not to blacken the names of the Arabs or create an association of the
Arab radicals with the Nazis.
The book go's onto to highlight the traditional Islamic Jew-hatred
found a willing ally in Nazi Germany, with the instrumental role
played by Husseini, who met with Hitler, worked closely with Eichmann,
and wrote letters top Axis governments preventing the transportations
of thousands of Jewish children from bulgaria and Hungary to safety in
the Holy Land, instead diverting them to the death camps at Auschwitz
where they were murdered.
Iraq gained independence in 1932. Nazi infiltration followed within a
year. The Christian owned daily al Aram-al-Arabi (The Arab World)
published daily extracts from the Arabic edition of Meim Kampf. with
it's venomous anti-Jewish propagnda.
In 1935, as German influence strengthened , a pro-Nazi society, al
Muthana was set up in Basra and Mosul lead by a well-known Jew-hater
Dr Saib Shawkat, director of the Royal hospital in Baghdad, whose
brother Sami Shawkat, a fellow medical doctor, founded the Futuwa
youth brigades , which distributed anti-Jewish and anti-British
leaflets.
Hilter's ambassador to Baghdad Fritz Grobba played the lead role in
Iraq in disseminating anti-Jewish and anti-Zionist propagnda, his
provocations were covered in newspapers of the day from Palestine to
Great Britain. He claimed that 85% of commerce in Iraq was in Jewish
hands and that Jews were not true Iraqis but a foul species apart.
Dozens of Iraqi Jews were killed in attacks by pro-Nazi Iraqis. In a
report to Berlin on June 6, 1939, Grobba wired a report to Berline
labelled SECRET in which he railed that 'The Jews are the source of
propaganda against the Italians and Germans in Iraq" Grobba threatened
a bloody massacre of Jews in Iraq "If the Jews continue to make it
difficult for Iraq with their deeds, a day will come when the anger of
the masses erupt, and the result will be: a massacre of Jews. When an
oriental people's feelings erupt, all restraint disappears: The want
to see blood"
The central event referred to in the book is the Farhud, the senseless
orgy of violence on June 1-2, on the Jewish holiday of Shavuot, in
which the Arab-Nazis murdered, raped and pillaged the Jewish community
that had lived there for 2,600 years. The riots occurred in a power
vacuum following the collapse of the pro-Nazi government of Rashid Ali
while the city was in a state of instability. Before British and
Transjordanian forces intervened, over 600 Jews had been killed and
thousands injured. Looting of Jewish property took place and thousands
of Jewish homes were destroyed.
As the author recounts eyewitness testimonies : "Infants were vicously
bashed to death against the pavement and were thrown lifeless into the
Tigris. Jewish women-
hundreds of them-were mercilessly and openly raped in front of their
husbands, in front of their parents, in front of their children, in
front of wild Muslim mobs. If the women was pregnant, sometimes she
was first raped, and then sliced open to destroy the unborn baby; only
then was she killed. Men who defended their women and children were
killed and their homes plundered. Commonly after murdering the
defenseless Jewish men and women with hatchets, axes, and swords, the
chanting throngs hacked the inanimate bodies to pieces thus further
defiling the infidels and -temporarily-sating the mob's blood lust".
The original plans for the 1941 anti-Jewish terror on June 1, were
intended to mimic Nazi extermination camps in Europe. Lists of Jews
were compiled using the familiar approach the Nazis and their allies
had employed in Europe.
It is important to realize that the Farhud was a mass movement, not
the actions of a gang or a few errant officers.
By 1951, 110,000 Jews - 80% of Iraqi Jewry - had emigrated from the
country, most to Israel. The Farhud has been called the "forgotten
pogrom of the Holocaust" and "the beginning of the end of the Jewish
community of Iraq", a community that had existed for 2,600 years.
One denominator characterized the Nazi-Arab confluence , the joint
Arab and Nazi-Arab conviction that the Jews constituted a menace by
their very existence, and had to be exterminated.
The book covers the SS and Wehrmacht units of Bosnian Muslims that
worked with the bloodthirsty and sadistic Croatian Ustasha in killing
millions of Serbs, Jews and Gypsies in Yugoslavia.
And then the spreading of the Holocaust to North Africa, where Arabs
sponsored by the Nazis brutally annihilated thousands of north African
Jews. The Arab-Nazi collaboration puts the lie to the Islamic claim
that the Arabs had nothing to do with the Holocaust and therefore
should not suffer the indignity of tolerating a Jewish entity in their
midst.
The author also in the last chapter describes the continuation of the
Arab support for Nazi ideology after the Holocaust, and the refuge
given to Egypt by Nazi war criminals, including Aribert Heim, Alfred
Zingler and Johan Von Leers, who helped to build the Nazi propaganda,
intelligence and military machine against Israel.
This is required reading to understand the roots of Arab hatred for
Israel and Jews, in an age where the Jews of the Middle East are
threatened with another Holocaust today, and the ideologies of the
mufti, the Farhud and the Arab-Nazi alliance are the ideologies that
drive Hamas, Hezbollah, the Islamic Brotherhood, Al Qaeda and the
Khamenei-Ahmadinejad regime in Iran.
http://www.amazon.com/The-Farhud-Arab-Nazi-Alliance-Holocaust/dp/0914153145
Roots of the Arab-Nazi Alliance in the Holocaust [Paperback]
Edwin Black (Author)
penetrating, pivotal and insightful February 7, 2011
By Gary Selikow
Format:PaperbackA penetrating, pivotal and insightful look into the
Islamic-Nazi alliance of World War II, the bloody pogrom of Jews by
Arab mobs in Baghdad in June, 1941, the background to these events and
the relevance of oil , ideology and Islam to these events.
Islam had a long history of hatred and subjugation of the Jews, known
as dhimnitude. The Jews in Islamic countries were reduced ton the
status of humiliated and subjugated second class citizens, with a
variety of laws to ensure this.
Dhimnis were barred from building any structure higher than a Muslims,
could not ride horses but only donkeys without saddles, could not
build any new houses of worship or repair existing ones and were
forbidden from making any noises that would attract attention to their
worship or burial of their dead.
They had to wear distinctive clothes to identify them, Jews had to
wear yellow, and the mandatory yellow patch which was forced upon the
Jews by the Nazis had it's origins in Baghdad, and not in Medieval
Europe as commonly believed.
The idea of Jews in the Middle East being sovereign in an independent
state, and not subjugated to Muslim rule and humiliated under Dhimni
status is what was intolerable to the Arabs and the roots of the
violent Arab rejection of the state of Israel, and before that of
migration of Jews into the Land of Israel. This was anathema to the
demand for Arab supremacy and dhimnitude
"Certainly the Palestinian population was accustomed to the many
migrants from the far reaches of the Ottoman Empire and especially the
extended Middle East who settled in the land. But the local Arab
community harbored a special resentment, at one level or another, for
all these new Jewish neighbours. They were after all Jews and as such
second class citizens beneath the Syrian Muslims, Lebanese Muslims,
Egyptian Muslims, and Turks who freely came and went from Palestine".
From 1920 attacks against Jews spread like wildfire in the Land of
Israel, instigated by Haj Amin al husseini, the bloodthirsty Jew-hater
and'Mufti of Jerusalem'.
The bloody 1929 pogroms and massacres of Jews that spread throughout
the Land of Israel in 1929 were sparked in September, 1928, by Jews at
the Western wall contravening the dhimni laws by erecting benches to
sit on at the wall, and partitions to separate men from women. Jews
were first massacred in Jerusalem and then the horrific massacres by
Arabs of Jews took place of the ancient Jewish community of Hebron.
"House to house they went bursting into every room looking for hiding
Jews. Religious scrolls or books were burned or torn to shreds. The
defenceless Jews were variously beheaded, castrated, their breasts and
fingers sliced off, and in some cases their eyes plucked from their
sockets. Infants and adults, men and women , it mattered not. The
carnage went on for hours, with the Arab policemen standing down.
Blood ran in streamlets down the narrow stone staircases outisde the
buildings.hose by house, room by room the savagery was repeated".
This was followed by the Arab pogroms against Jews of 1936, the Arab-
Nazi Alliance and the spread of the Holocaust to Iraq where Jews were
massacred horrifically in Baghdad by pro-Nazi Arab mobs. an event
which the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum has refused to
acknowledge, either for reasons of refusing to recongnize the equality
of Sephardi Jews to Ashkenazim, or a politically correct determination
not to blacken the names of the Arabs or create an association of the
Arab radicals with the Nazis.
The book go's onto to highlight the traditional Islamic Jew-hatred
found a willing ally in Nazi Germany, with the instrumental role
played by Husseini, who met with Hitler, worked closely with Eichmann,
and wrote letters top Axis governments preventing the transportations
of thousands of Jewish children from bulgaria and Hungary to safety in
the Holy Land, instead diverting them to the death camps at Auschwitz
where they were murdered.
Iraq gained independence in 1932. Nazi infiltration followed within a
year. The Christian owned daily al Aram-al-Arabi (The Arab World)
published daily extracts from the Arabic edition of Meim Kampf. with
it's venomous anti-Jewish propagnda.
In 1935, as German influence strengthened , a pro-Nazi society, al
Muthana was set up in Basra and Mosul lead by a well-known Jew-hater
Dr Saib Shawkat, director of the Royal hospital in Baghdad, whose
brother Sami Shawkat, a fellow medical doctor, founded the Futuwa
youth brigades , which distributed anti-Jewish and anti-British
leaflets.
Hilter's ambassador to Baghdad Fritz Grobba played the lead role in
Iraq in disseminating anti-Jewish and anti-Zionist propagnda, his
provocations were covered in newspapers of the day from Palestine to
Great Britain. He claimed that 85% of commerce in Iraq was in Jewish
hands and that Jews were not true Iraqis but a foul species apart.
Dozens of Iraqi Jews were killed in attacks by pro-Nazi Iraqis. In a
report to Berlin on June 6, 1939, Grobba wired a report to Berline
labelled SECRET in which he railed that 'The Jews are the source of
propaganda against the Italians and Germans in Iraq" Grobba threatened
a bloody massacre of Jews in Iraq "If the Jews continue to make it
difficult for Iraq with their deeds, a day will come when the anger of
the masses erupt, and the result will be: a massacre of Jews. When an
oriental people's feelings erupt, all restraint disappears: The want
to see blood"
The central event referred to in the book is the Farhud, the senseless
orgy of violence on June 1-2, on the Jewish holiday of Shavuot, in
which the Arab-Nazis murdered, raped and pillaged the Jewish community
that had lived there for 2,600 years. The riots occurred in a power
vacuum following the collapse of the pro-Nazi government of Rashid Ali
while the city was in a state of instability. Before British and
Transjordanian forces intervened, over 600 Jews had been killed and
thousands injured. Looting of Jewish property took place and thousands
of Jewish homes were destroyed.
As the author recounts eyewitness testimonies : "Infants were vicously
bashed to death against the pavement and were thrown lifeless into the
Tigris. Jewish women-
hundreds of them-were mercilessly and openly raped in front of their
husbands, in front of their parents, in front of their children, in
front of wild Muslim mobs. If the women was pregnant, sometimes she
was first raped, and then sliced open to destroy the unborn baby; only
then was she killed. Men who defended their women and children were
killed and their homes plundered. Commonly after murdering the
defenseless Jewish men and women with hatchets, axes, and swords, the
chanting throngs hacked the inanimate bodies to pieces thus further
defiling the infidels and -temporarily-sating the mob's blood lust".
The original plans for the 1941 anti-Jewish terror on June 1, were
intended to mimic Nazi extermination camps in Europe. Lists of Jews
were compiled using the familiar approach the Nazis and their allies
had employed in Europe.
It is important to realize that the Farhud was a mass movement, not
the actions of a gang or a few errant officers.
By 1951, 110,000 Jews - 80% of Iraqi Jewry - had emigrated from the
country, most to Israel. The Farhud has been called the "forgotten
pogrom of the Holocaust" and "the beginning of the end of the Jewish
community of Iraq", a community that had existed for 2,600 years.
One denominator characterized the Nazi-Arab confluence , the joint
Arab and Nazi-Arab conviction that the Jews constituted a menace by
their very existence, and had to be exterminated.
The book covers the SS and Wehrmacht units of Bosnian Muslims that
worked with the bloodthirsty and sadistic Croatian Ustasha in killing
millions of Serbs, Jews and Gypsies in Yugoslavia.
And then the spreading of the Holocaust to North Africa, where Arabs
sponsored by the Nazis brutally annihilated thousands of north African
Jews. The Arab-Nazi collaboration puts the lie to the Islamic claim
that the Arabs had nothing to do with the Holocaust and therefore
should not suffer the indignity of tolerating a Jewish entity in their
midst.
The author also in the last chapter describes the continuation of the
Arab support for Nazi ideology after the Holocaust, and the refuge
given to Egypt by Nazi war criminals, including Aribert Heim, Alfred
Zingler and Johan Von Leers, who helped to build the Nazi propaganda,
intelligence and military machine against Israel.
This is required reading to understand the roots of Arab hatred for
Israel and Jews, in an age where the Jews of the Middle East are
threatened with another Holocaust today, and the ideologies of the
mufti, the Farhud and the Arab-Nazi alliance are the ideologies that
drive Hamas, Hezbollah, the Islamic Brotherhood, Al Qaeda and the
Khamenei-Ahmadinejad regime in Iran.
http://www.amazon.com/The-Farhud-Arab-Nazi-Alliance-Holocaust/dp/0914153145
Aviroce
May 27, 2012, 1:08:54 AM5/27/12
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Yes. There is. I don't remember the exact title.
Aviroce
May 27, 2012, 1:11:38 AM5/27/12
to
It is an Axiom:Palestine and the Palestinians Exist and are
Indestructible. You are challenging the Axiom. The Axiom is a self-
evident truth.
On May 24, 4:00 pm, "jwsheffi...@satx.rr.com"
> http://www.jihadwatch.org/2012/04/hamas-official-admits-palestinians-...
>
> http://www.jihadwatch.org/
Indestructible. You are challenging the Axiom. The Axiom is a self-
evident truth.
On May 24, 4:00 pm, "jwsheffi...@satx.rr.com"
>
> http://www.jihadwatch.org/
Aviroce
May 27, 2012, 1:09:44 AM5/27/12
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So says you. Thus spake Zarathustra.
On May 24, 3:28 pm, "Laughing Muslim" <h...@there.com> wrote:
> "KickBoxer GR" <kickboxer...@gmail.com> wrote in message
On May 24, 3:28 pm, "Laughing Muslim" <h...@there.com> wrote:
> "KickBoxer GR" <kickboxer...@gmail.com> wrote in message
Aviroce
May 27, 2012, 1:14:09 AM5/27/12
to
Frankly my boy, Hitler should have carried the punishment to the
traitors of the German society. Nazism is a reaction to Zionism and
is rooted in it.
On May 25, 12:50 pm, "jwsheffi...@satx.rr.com"
> http://www.amazon.com/The-Farhud-Arab-Nazi-Alliance-Holocaust/dp/0914...
traitors of the German society. Nazism is a reaction to Zionism and
is rooted in it.
On May 25, 12:50 pm, "jwsheffi...@satx.rr.com"
jwshe...@satx.rr.com
May 27, 2012, 2:22:41 PM5/27/12
to
On May 27, 12:14 am, Aviroce <dudaras...@gmail.com> wrote:
"Frankly my boy, Hitler should have carried the punishment to the
traitors of the German society. Nazism is a reaction to Zionism and
is rooted in it."
Glad, you admit you are a Hitler lover.
"Frankly my boy, Hitler should have carried the punishment to the
traitors of the German society. Nazism is a reaction to Zionism and
is rooted in it."
The Mufti and the Führer
By Mitchell Bard
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
In 1941, Haj Amin al-Husseini fled to Germany and met with Adolf
Hitler, Heinrich Himmler, Joachim Von Ribbentrop and other Nazi
leaders. He wanted to persuade them to extend the Nazis’ anti-Jewish
program to the Arab world.
The Mufti sent Hitler 15 drafts of declarations he wanted Germany and
Italy to make concerning the Middle East. One called on the two
countries to declare the illegality of the Jewish home in Palestine.
Furthermore, “they accord to Palestine and to other Arab countries the
right to solve the problem of the Jewish elements in Palestine and
other Arab countries, in accordance with the interest of the Arabs
and, by the same method, that the question is now being settled in the
Axis countries.”1
In November 1941, the Mufti met with Hitler, who told him the Jews
were his foremost enemy. The Nazi dictator rebuffed the Mufti's
requests for a declaration in support of the Arabs, however, telling
him the time was not right. The Mufti offered Hitler his “thanks for
the sympathy which he had always shown for the Arab and especially
Palestinian cause, and to which he had given clear expression in his
public speeches....The Arabs were Germany's natural friends because
they had the same enemies as had Germany, namely....the Jews....”
Hitler replied:
Germany stood for uncompromising war against the Jews. That naturally
included active opposition to the Jewish national home in
Palestine....Germany would furnish positive and practical aid to the
Arabs involved in the same struggle....Germany's objective
[is]...solely the destruction of the Jewish element residing in the
Arab sphere....In that hour the Mufti would be the most authoritative
spokesman for the Arab world. The Mufti thanked Hitler profusely.2
In 1945, Yugoslavia sought to indict the Mufti as a war criminal for
his role in recruiting 20,000 Muslim volunteers for the SS, who
participated in the killing of Jews in Croatia and Hungary. He escaped
from French detention in 1946, however, and continued his fight
against the Jews from Cairo and later Beirut. He died in 1974.
The Husseini family continued to play a role in Palestinian affairs,
with Faisal Husseini, whose father was the Mufti's nephew, regarded
until his death in 2001 as one of their leading spokesmen in the
territories.
Notes
1“Grand Mufti Plotted To Do Away With All Jews In Mideast,” Response,
(Fall 1991), pp. 2-3.
2Record of the Conversation Between the Fuhrer and the Grand Mufti of
Jerusalem on November 28, 1941, in the Presence of Reich Foreign
Minister and Minister Grobba in Berlin, Documents on German Foreign
Policy, 1918-1945, Series D, Vol. XIII, London, 1964, p. 881ff in
Walter Lacquer and Barry Rubin, The Israel-Arab Reader, (NY: Facts on
File, 1984), pp. 79-84.
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/muftihit.html
>
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Aviroce
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Hitler had to deal with traitors of the German people. He failed to
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STAB JEW IN THROAT AND IF HE WIGGLES STAB HIM IN HIS HEART AND IF HE
WIGGLES STAB HIM IN THE ASS AND LET HIM SCREAM FOR MY MERCY
By Aviroce
I am thy Lord. I say "Kill thy Jews man, woman and child." The more
of them, the more evil they beget. Jews are thy Satan. Jews are thy
Evil. Jews will burn in Hell forever. So when you come to kill a
Jew. stab him in his throat and if he wiggles stab him in his heart
and if he still wiggles put thy sword in his ass and let him scream
for my mercy. Thy Lord has spoken. Follow thy Lord or you will
receive the same ordeal. Amen.
What is that shit about Jews you are talking about. You make and
they
make themselves gods. I already told you guys god is a story told by
an idiot full of sound and fury signifying nothing. All that trash
about myth and mythical figures and writings about these mythical
puppets. All that is trash.
Aviroce
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STAB JEW IN THROAT AND IF HE WIGGLES STAB HIM IN HIS HEART AND IF HE
WIGGLES STAB HIM IN THE ASS AND LET HIM SCREAM FOR MY MERCY
By Aviroce
I am thy Lord. I say "Kill thy Jews man, woman and child." The more
of them, the more evil they beget. Jews are thy Satan. Jews are thy
Evil. Jews will burn in Hell forever. So when you come to kill a
Jew. stab him in his throat and if he wiggles stab him in his heart
and if he still wiggles put thy sword in his ass and let him scream
for my mercy. Thy Lord has spoken. Follow thy Lord or you will
receive the same ordeal. Amen.
What is that shit about Jews you are talking about. You make and
they
make themselves gods. I already told you guys god is a story told by
an idiot full of sound and fury signifying nothing. All that trash
about myth and mythical figures and writings about these mythical
puppets. All that is trash.
Aviroce
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> On May 27, 12:14 am, Aviroce <dudaras...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> "Frankly my boy, Hitler should have carried the punishment to the
> traitors of the German society. Nazism is a reaction to Zionism and
> is rooted in it."
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> Glad, you admit you are a Hitler lover.
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> The Mufti and the Führer
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> By Mitchell Bard
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> "Frankly my boy, Hitler should have carried the punishment to the
> traitors of the German society. Nazism is a reaction to Zionism and
> is rooted in it."
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> Glad, you admit you are a Hitler lover.
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> The Mufti and the Führer
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Understanding the Islam in Muslim Jew-Hatred
by Dr. Bostom
In the wake of the farcically mislabeled “Arab Spring,” we are
witnessing a swelling tide of Jew-hatred emanating from the triumphant
Islamists throughout the Middle East who don’t even bother to conceal
it. And why should they? Our own willfully blind and/or complicit
media downplay it or ignore it altogether.
Some argue that what is mistaken for contemporary Islamic anti-
Semitism is just a reaction to Israel’s “occupation” and “genocidal
oppression” of the Palestinians. Or that it is not intrinsic to Islam
but derives from the influence of Nazism. Or that it is a perversion
of Islam on the part of a tiny minority of extremists. What are the
true roots of Islamic Jew-hatred?
Andrew Bostom, M.D., M.S., has documented the answer. An Associate
Professor of Medicine at Rhode Island Hospital, the major teaching
affiliate of Brown University Medical School, he is the author of two
essential, extraordinary, and meticulously documented works of
scholarship, The Legacy of Jihad and The Legacy of Islamic
Antisemitism, and of the upcoming Sharia versus Freedom (with a
foreword by the incomparable Andrew C. McCarthy). He has published
articles and commentary on Islam here on FrontPage and in the
Washington Times, National Review Online, Revue Politique, American
Thinker, and elsewhere in print and online.
This Tuesday in Los Angeles, Mr. Bostom will present “Understanding
the Islam in Muslim Jew-Hatred.” See here for information about
attending.
Mark Tapson: Dr. Bostom, what inspired you as a scholar to focus on
Islam?
Andrew Bostom: It’s pretty straightforward. The stimulus was
9/11/2001. Until then I was simply a medical academic at Rhode Island
Hospital (the major teaching hospital of The Warren Alpert Medical
School of Brown University), and an average citizen trying to keep
abreast of world events. I am not particularly religious as a Jew
though I certainly support the state of Israel. But I grew up in New
York, living in Queens most of my life, and I went to medical school
in Brooklyn. My wife and I still have family in New York City, so the
day of 9/11/2001 itself was traumatic, trying to make sure everyone
was OK. A colleague’s wife was in the second tower. She was very
lucky, barely getting out before it collapsed.
On the way home I grabbed a book by Karen Armstrong about Islam. I was
reading it and commenting to my wife that it just didn’t seem to jibe.
(I learned later that Armstrong is a notorious apologist.) As I read
it out loud my wife was just laughing. I didn’t find it particularly
funny. Nor the news reports over the next days that were transparently
apologetic. And I was alarmed at stories that appeared in the New York
Times (and other New York area newspapers) about an Egyptian Imam who
was preaching at a large Mosque in Manhattan, and spreading conspiracy
theories about Jews leaving the World Trade Center in advance of the
attacks, due to their “prior knowledge.”
So I started reading independently. A small book by Yossef Bodansky, a
terrorism expert, discussed Islamic anti-semitism as a political
instrument, and referenced the work of Bat Ye’or on the dhimmi. I got
that book by Bat Ye’or, and everything else she has written in English—
all her books, essays, and published lectures. I met Bat Ye’or after a
correspondence with Daniel Pipes, and brought her to Brown University
to give a guest lecture. She became a very close mentor, and
introduced me to Ibn Warraq and that’s how things started. I had begun
writing short essays within a year of 9/11. Ibn Warraq resided with us
in 2003, for a time, and he encouraged me to consider a book project.
I was increasingly interested in the Jihad and it was with Warraq’s
support that I put that first book, The Legacy of Jihad, together.
MT: What do you say to the common defense that Islam preaches
tolerance toward Christians and Jews – “the people of the book” – and
that Jew-hatred is not inherent within it?
AB: Although often invoked, these apologetic canards are diametrically
opposed to Islamic doctrine and the sad, if predictable historical
realities this sacralized hatred has engendered.
What has always been the nature of the system of governance imposed
upon indigenous non-Muslims conquered by Islam’s timeless,
institutionalized jihad wars?
In his seminal The Laws of Islamic Governance, al-Mawardi (d. 1058) —
a renowned jurist of Baghdad — examined the regulations pertaining to
the lands and infidel populations subjugated by jihad. This is the
origin of the system of dhimmitude. The native infidel “dhimmi” (which
derives from both the word for “pact” and also “guilt” — guilty of
religious errors) population had to recognize Islamic ownership of
their land, submit to Islamic law, and accept payment of the Koranic
poll tax (jizya, the tax paid in lieu of being slain) based on Koran
9:29. Al-Mawardi notes: “The enemy makes a payment in return for peace
and reconciliation. … Reconciliation and security last as long as the
payment is made. If the payment ceases, then the jihad resumes.” A
treaty of reconciliation may be renewable, but must not exceed 10
years.
This same basic formulation was reiterated during a January 8, 1998,
interview by Muslim Brotherhood “Spiritual Guide,” and immensely
popular Al-Jazeera television personality Yusuf al-Qaradawi,
confirming how jihad continues to regulate the relations between
Muslims and non-Muslims to this day. The “contract of the jizya,” or
“dhimma,” encompassed other obligatory and recommended obligations for
the conquered non-Muslim “dhimmi” peoples. Collectively, these
“obligations” formed the discriminatory system of dhimmitude imposed
upon non-Muslims — Jews and Christians, as well as Zoroastrians,
Hindus, and Buddhists — subjugated by jihad. Some of the more salient
features of dhimmitude include:
– The prohibition of arms for the vanquished dhimmis
– The prohibition of church bells
– Restrictions concerning the building and restoration of churches,
synagogues, and temples
– Inequality between Muslims and non-Muslims with regard to taxes and
penal law
– The refusal of dhimmi testimony by Muslim courts
– A requirement that Jews, Christians, and other non-Muslims,
including Zoroastrians and Hindus, wear special clothes
– The overall humiliation and abasement of non-Muslims
It is important to note that these regulations and attitudes were
institutionalized as permanent features of the sacred Islamic law, or
Sharia. The writings of the much lionized Sufi theologian and jurist
al-Ghazali (d. 1111) highlight how the institution of dhimmitude was
simply a normative and prominent feature of the Sharia:
The dhimmi is obliged not to mention Allah or His Apostle. … Jews,
Christians, and Majians must pay the jizya [poll tax on non-Muslims].
… On offering up the jizya, the dhimmi must hang his head while the
official takes hold of his beard and hits [the dhimmi] on the
protruberant bone beneath his ear [i.e., the mandible]. … They are not
permitted to ostentatiously display their wine or church bells. …
Their houses may not be higher than the Muslim’s, no matter how low
that is. The dhimmi may not ride an elegant horse or mule; he may ride
a donkey only if the saddle-work is of wood. He may not walk on the
good part of the road. They [the dhimmis] have to wear [an
identifying] patch [on their clothing], even women, and even in the
[public] baths. … [Dhimmis] must hold their tongue.
The practical consequences of such a discriminatory system were
summarized by the great historian of Muslim and non-Muslim (especially
Jewish) relations during classical Islam, S.D. Goitein, in 1970 :
Taxation [by the Muslim government] was merciless, and a very large
section of the population must have lived permanently at the
starvation level. From many Geniza letters [a trove of Oriental Jewish
correspondence etc., particularly from the Middle Ages, discovered in
Egypt] one gets the impression that the poor were concerned more with
getting money for the payment of their taxes than for food and
clothing, for failure of payment usually induced cruel punishment. …
The Muslim state was quite the opposite of the ideals … embedded in
the constitution of the United States. An Islamic state was part of or
coincided with dar al-Islam, the House of Islam. Its treasury was …
the money of the Muslims. Christians and Jews were not citizens of the
state, not even second class citizens. They were outsiders under the
protection of the Muslim state, a status characterized by the term
dhimma … They were also exposed to a great number of discriminatory
and humiliating laws. … As it lies in the very nature of such
restrictions, soon additional humiliations were added, and before the
second century of Islam was out, a complete body of legislation in
this matter was in existence. … In times and places in which they
became too oppressive they lead to the dwindling or even complete
extinction of the minorities.
Important scholars of Islamic Antisemitism — from Hartwig Hirschfeld
in the mid-1880s, Georges Vajda in the late 1930s, S.D. Goitein in
1971, and Haggai Ben-Shammai in 1988 — have demonstrated,
collectively, all of the following:
– Clear historical evidence of specific Islamic anti-semitism, from
the Geniza record of the high Middle Ages — including the coinage of a
unique Hebrew word to characterize such Muslim Jew hatred, sinuth —
published in full by Goitein as of 1971
– The content of foundational Muslim sources detailing the sacralized
rationale for Islam’s anti-Jewish bigotry, including Hartwig
Hirschfeld’s mid-1880s essay series on Muhammad’s subjugation of the
Jews of Medina, based upon the earliest pious Muslim biographies of
Muhammad
– George Vajda’s elegant, comprehensive 1937 analysis focusing
primarily on the hadith (the putative words and deeds of the Muslim
prophet Muhammad, as recorded by his earliest pious Muslim companions)
– Haggai Ben-Shammai’s concise 1988 study of key examples of Jew-
hatred in the Koran and Koranic exegesis
For example, Koran 3:112 is featured before the pre-amble to Hamas’
foundational Covenant—it is literally part of the very first statement
of the document. Here is the standard Arberry translation of 3:112:
Abasement shall be pitched on them, wherever they are come upon,
except they be in a bond of God, and a bond of the people; they will
be laden with the burden of God’s anger, and poverty shall be pitched
on them; that, because they disbelieved in God’s signs, and slew the
Prophets without right; that, for that they acted rebelliously and
were transgressors.
In classical and modern Koranic exegeses by seminal, authoritative
Islamic theologians this central motif is coupled to Koranic verses
5:60, and 5:78, which describe the Jews transformation into apes and
pigs (5:60), or simply apes, (i.e. verses 2:65 and 7:166), having been
“…cursed by the tongue of David, and Jesus, Mary’s son” (5:78).
Muhammad himself — Islam’s founding prophet — repeats this Koranic
curse in a canonical hadith (Sunan Abu Dawoud, Book 37, Number 4322),
“He [Muhammad] then recited the verse [5:78]: ‘…curses were pronounced
on those among the children of Israel who rejected Faith, by the
tongue of David and of Jesus the son of Mary’”. And the related verse,
5:64, accuses the Jews—as Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud
Abbas did in a January 2007 speech, citing Koran 5:64—of being
“spreaders of war and corruption,” a sort of ancient Koranic
antecedent of The Protocols of the Elders of Zion.
The Koranic curse (verses 2:61/3:112) upon the Jews for (primarily)
rejecting, even slaying Allah’s prophets, including Isa, the Muslim
Jesus (or at least his “body double” 4:157-4:158), is updated with
perfect thematic logic in the canonical hadith: following the Muslims’
initial conquest of the Jewish farming oasis of Khaybar, one of the
vanquished Jewesses reportedly served Muhammad poisoned mutton (or
goat), which resulted, ultimately, in his protracted, agonizing death.
And Ibn Saad’s sira account—the sira being the earliest pious Muslim
biographies of Muhammad—maintains that Muhammad’s poisoning resulted
from a well-coordinated Jewish conspiracy.
As characterized in the hadith, Muslim eschatology highlights the
Jews’ supreme hostility to Islam. Jews are described as adherents of
the Dajjâl – the Muslim equivalent of the Anti-Christ – or according
to another tradition, the Dajjâl is himself Jewish. At his appearance,
other traditions maintain that the Dajjâl will be accompanied by
70,000 Jews from Isfahan, or Jerusalem, wrapped in their robes, and
armed with polished sabers, their heads covered with a sort of veil.
When the Dajjâl is defeated, his Jewish companions will be slaughtered—
everything will deliver them up except for the so-called gharkad tree,
as per the canonical hadith (Sahih Muslim, Book 41, Number 6985)
included in the 1988 Hamas Covenant (in article 7). This hadith is
cited in the Covenant as a sacralized, obligatory call for a Muslim
genocide of the Jews:
…the Islamic Resistance Movement aspires to realize the promise of
Allah, no matter how long it takes. The Prophet, Allah’s prayer and
peace be upon him, says: “The hour of judgment shall not come until
the Muslims fight the Jews and kill them, so that the Jews hide behind
trees and stones, and each tree and stone will say: ‘Oh Muslim, oh
servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him,’ except
for the Gharqad tree, for it is the tree of the Jews.” (Sahih Muslim,
Book 41, Number 6985)
Moreover, findings reported by the politically left Israel Foundation,
July 15, 2011, from an “intensive, face-to-face survey in Arabic of
1,010 Palestinian adults in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip”
revealed that 73% of this representative statistical sample of
Palestinians surveyed agree with the dictates of the annihilationist
canonical hadith (i.e., Sahih Muslim, Book 41, Number 6985) quoted in
the Hamas Covenant.
Unfortunately, Hamas’ views on Islamic Jew hatred, are entirely
concordant with those of the most authoritative religious educational
institution within Sunni Islam for over 1000 years, since the late
10th century—Al Azhar University, in Cairo, Egypt. Consider a fatwa
written January 5, 1956 by then Grand Mufti of Egypt, Sheikh Hasan
Ma’moun, and signed by the leading members of the Fatwa Committee of
Al Azhar, and the major representatives of all four Sunni Islamic
schools of jurisprudence. [English translation from State Department
Telegram 1763/ Embassy (Cairo) Telegram 1256 D441214] This ruling
elaborated the following key initial point: that all of historical
Palestine—modern Jordan, Israel, and the disputed territories of Judea
and Samaria, as well as Gaza—having been conquered by jihad, was a
permanent possession of the global Muslim umma (community), “fay
territory”—booty or spoils—to be governed eternally by Islamic Law.
The January, 1956 Al Azhar fatwa’s language and arguments are
indistinguishable from those employed by Hamas (in its Covenant),
revealing the same conjoined motivations of jihad, and conspiratorial
Islamic Jew hatred:
Muslims cannot conclude peace with those Jews who have usurped the
territory of Palestine and attacked its people and their property in
any manner which allows the Jews to continue as a state in that sacred
Muslim territory.
[as] Jews have taken a part of Palestine and there established their
non-Islamic government and have also evacuated from that part most of
its Muslim inhabitants… Jihad… to restore the country to its people..
is the duty of all Muslims, not just those who can undertake it. And
since all Islamic countries constitute the abode of every Muslim, the
Jihad is imperative for both the Muslims inhabiting the territory
attacked, and Muslims everywhere else because even though some
sections have not been attacked directly, the attack nevertheless took
place on a part of the Muslim territory which is a legitimate
residence for any Muslim.
Everyone knows that from the early days of Islam to the present day
the Jews have been plotting against Islam and Muslims and the Islamic
homeland. They do not propose to be content with the attack they made
on Palestine and Al Aqsa Mosque, but they plan for the possession of
all Islamic territories from the Nile to the Euphrates.
The continual, monotonous invocation by Al Azhar clerics of such
jihadist and antisemitic motifs from the Koran (or other foundational
Muslim texts) is entirely consistent with the published writings and
statements of the late Sheikh Muhammad Sayyid Tantawi—Grand Imam of
this pre-eminent Islamic religious institution from 1996, till his
death in March 2010.
My book The Legacy of Islamic Antisemitism includes extensive first
time English translations of Tantawi’s academic magnum opus, Jews in
the Koran and the Traditions. Tantawi wrote these words rationalizing
Muslim Jew-hatred, in his 700 page treatise:
[The] Koran describes the Jews with their own particular degenerate
characteristics, i.e. killing the prophets of Allah [Koran 2:61/
3:112], corrupting His words by putting them in the wrong places,
consuming the people’s wealth frivolously, refusal to distance
themselves from the evil they do, and other ugly characteristics
caused by their deep-rooted lasciviousness…only a minority of the Jews
keep their word…[A]ll Jews are not the same. The good ones become
Muslims [Koran 3:113], 41 the bad ones do not.
Tantawi was apparently rewarded for this scholarly effort by being
named Grand Imam of Al-Azhar University, a position he held for 14-
years. These were the expressed, “carefully researched” views on Jews
held by the nearest Muslim equivalent to a Pope – the head of the most
prestigious center of Muslim learning in Sunni Islam, which represents
some 85 to 90% of the world’s Muslims. And Sheikh Tantawi never
mollified such hatemongering beliefs after becoming the Grand Imam of
Al-Azhar as his statements on “dialogue” (January 1998) with Jews, the
Jews as “enemies of Allah, descendants of apes and pigs” (April 2002),
and the legitimacy of homicide bombing of Jews (April 2002) make
clear.
Here is but a very incomplete sampling of barely known pogroms and
mass murderous violence against Jews living under Islamic rule, across
space and time, all resulting from the combined effects of jihadism,
general anti-dhimmi, and/or specifically Antisemitic motifs in Islam:
6,000 Jews massacred in Fez in 1033; hundreds of Jews slaughtered in
Muslim Cordoba between 1010 and 1015; 4,000 Jews killed in Muslim
riots in Grenada in 1066, wiping out the entire community; the Berber
Muslim Almohad depredations of Jews (and Christians) in Spain and
North Africa between 1130 and 1232, which killed tens of thousands,
while forcibly converting thousands more, and subjecting the forced
Jewish converts to Islam to a Muslim Inquisition; the 1291 pogroms in
Baghdad and its environs, which killed (at least) hundreds of Jews;
the 1465 pogrom against the Jews of Fez; the late 15th century pogrom
against the Jews of the Southern Moroccan oasis town of Touat; the
1679 pogroms against, and then expulsion of 10,000 Jews from Sanaa,
Yemen to the unlivable, hot and dry Plain of Tihama, from which only
1,000 returned alive, in 1680, 90% having died from exposure;
recurring Muslim anti-Jewish violence—including pogroms and forced
conversions—throughout the 17th, 18th and 19th centuries, which
rendered areas of Iran (for example, Tabriz) Judenrein; the 1834
pogrom in Safed where raging Muslim mobs killed and grievously wounded
hundreds of Jews; the 1888 massacres of Jews in Isfahan and Shiraz,
Iran; the 1910 pogrom in Shiraz; the pillage and destruction of the
Casablanca, Morocco ghetto in 1907; the pillage of the ghetto of Fez
Morocco in 1912; the government sanctioned anti-Jewish pogroms by
Muslims in Turkish Eastern Thrace during June-July, 1934 which
ethnically cleansed at least 3000 Jews; and the series of pogroms,
expropriations, and finally mass expulsions of some 900,000 Jews from
Arab Muslim nations, beginning in 1941 in Baghdad (the murderous
“Farhud,” during which 600 Jews were murdered, and at least 12,000
pillaged)—eventually involving cities and towns in Egypt, Morocco,
Libya, Syria, Aden, Bahrain, and culminating in 1967 in Tunisia—that
accompanied the planning and creation of a Jewish state, Israel, on a
portion of the Jews’ ancestral homeland.
http://frontpagemag.com/2012/01/23/understanding-the-islam-in-muslim-jew-hatred/
by Dr. Bostom
In the wake of the farcically mislabeled “Arab Spring,” we are
witnessing a swelling tide of Jew-hatred emanating from the triumphant
Islamists throughout the Middle East who don’t even bother to conceal
it. And why should they? Our own willfully blind and/or complicit
media downplay it or ignore it altogether.
Some argue that what is mistaken for contemporary Islamic anti-
Semitism is just a reaction to Israel’s “occupation” and “genocidal
oppression” of the Palestinians. Or that it is not intrinsic to Islam
but derives from the influence of Nazism. Or that it is a perversion
of Islam on the part of a tiny minority of extremists. What are the
true roots of Islamic Jew-hatred?
Andrew Bostom, M.D., M.S., has documented the answer. An Associate
Professor of Medicine at Rhode Island Hospital, the major teaching
affiliate of Brown University Medical School, he is the author of two
essential, extraordinary, and meticulously documented works of
scholarship, The Legacy of Jihad and The Legacy of Islamic
Antisemitism, and of the upcoming Sharia versus Freedom (with a
foreword by the incomparable Andrew C. McCarthy). He has published
articles and commentary on Islam here on FrontPage and in the
Washington Times, National Review Online, Revue Politique, American
Thinker, and elsewhere in print and online.
This Tuesday in Los Angeles, Mr. Bostom will present “Understanding
the Islam in Muslim Jew-Hatred.” See here for information about
attending.
Mark Tapson: Dr. Bostom, what inspired you as a scholar to focus on
Islam?
Andrew Bostom: It’s pretty straightforward. The stimulus was
9/11/2001. Until then I was simply a medical academic at Rhode Island
Hospital (the major teaching hospital of The Warren Alpert Medical
School of Brown University), and an average citizen trying to keep
abreast of world events. I am not particularly religious as a Jew
though I certainly support the state of Israel. But I grew up in New
York, living in Queens most of my life, and I went to medical school
in Brooklyn. My wife and I still have family in New York City, so the
day of 9/11/2001 itself was traumatic, trying to make sure everyone
was OK. A colleague’s wife was in the second tower. She was very
lucky, barely getting out before it collapsed.
On the way home I grabbed a book by Karen Armstrong about Islam. I was
reading it and commenting to my wife that it just didn’t seem to jibe.
(I learned later that Armstrong is a notorious apologist.) As I read
it out loud my wife was just laughing. I didn’t find it particularly
funny. Nor the news reports over the next days that were transparently
apologetic. And I was alarmed at stories that appeared in the New York
Times (and other New York area newspapers) about an Egyptian Imam who
was preaching at a large Mosque in Manhattan, and spreading conspiracy
theories about Jews leaving the World Trade Center in advance of the
attacks, due to their “prior knowledge.”
So I started reading independently. A small book by Yossef Bodansky, a
terrorism expert, discussed Islamic anti-semitism as a political
instrument, and referenced the work of Bat Ye’or on the dhimmi. I got
that book by Bat Ye’or, and everything else she has written in English—
all her books, essays, and published lectures. I met Bat Ye’or after a
correspondence with Daniel Pipes, and brought her to Brown University
to give a guest lecture. She became a very close mentor, and
introduced me to Ibn Warraq and that’s how things started. I had begun
writing short essays within a year of 9/11. Ibn Warraq resided with us
in 2003, for a time, and he encouraged me to consider a book project.
I was increasingly interested in the Jihad and it was with Warraq’s
support that I put that first book, The Legacy of Jihad, together.
MT: What do you say to the common defense that Islam preaches
tolerance toward Christians and Jews – “the people of the book” – and
that Jew-hatred is not inherent within it?
AB: Although often invoked, these apologetic canards are diametrically
opposed to Islamic doctrine and the sad, if predictable historical
realities this sacralized hatred has engendered.
What has always been the nature of the system of governance imposed
upon indigenous non-Muslims conquered by Islam’s timeless,
institutionalized jihad wars?
In his seminal The Laws of Islamic Governance, al-Mawardi (d. 1058) —
a renowned jurist of Baghdad — examined the regulations pertaining to
the lands and infidel populations subjugated by jihad. This is the
origin of the system of dhimmitude. The native infidel “dhimmi” (which
derives from both the word for “pact” and also “guilt” — guilty of
religious errors) population had to recognize Islamic ownership of
their land, submit to Islamic law, and accept payment of the Koranic
poll tax (jizya, the tax paid in lieu of being slain) based on Koran
9:29. Al-Mawardi notes: “The enemy makes a payment in return for peace
and reconciliation. … Reconciliation and security last as long as the
payment is made. If the payment ceases, then the jihad resumes.” A
treaty of reconciliation may be renewable, but must not exceed 10
years.
This same basic formulation was reiterated during a January 8, 1998,
interview by Muslim Brotherhood “Spiritual Guide,” and immensely
popular Al-Jazeera television personality Yusuf al-Qaradawi,
confirming how jihad continues to regulate the relations between
Muslims and non-Muslims to this day. The “contract of the jizya,” or
“dhimma,” encompassed other obligatory and recommended obligations for
the conquered non-Muslim “dhimmi” peoples. Collectively, these
“obligations” formed the discriminatory system of dhimmitude imposed
upon non-Muslims — Jews and Christians, as well as Zoroastrians,
Hindus, and Buddhists — subjugated by jihad. Some of the more salient
features of dhimmitude include:
– The prohibition of arms for the vanquished dhimmis
– The prohibition of church bells
– Restrictions concerning the building and restoration of churches,
synagogues, and temples
– Inequality between Muslims and non-Muslims with regard to taxes and
penal law
– The refusal of dhimmi testimony by Muslim courts
– A requirement that Jews, Christians, and other non-Muslims,
including Zoroastrians and Hindus, wear special clothes
– The overall humiliation and abasement of non-Muslims
It is important to note that these regulations and attitudes were
institutionalized as permanent features of the sacred Islamic law, or
Sharia. The writings of the much lionized Sufi theologian and jurist
al-Ghazali (d. 1111) highlight how the institution of dhimmitude was
simply a normative and prominent feature of the Sharia:
The dhimmi is obliged not to mention Allah or His Apostle. … Jews,
Christians, and Majians must pay the jizya [poll tax on non-Muslims].
… On offering up the jizya, the dhimmi must hang his head while the
official takes hold of his beard and hits [the dhimmi] on the
protruberant bone beneath his ear [i.e., the mandible]. … They are not
permitted to ostentatiously display their wine or church bells. …
Their houses may not be higher than the Muslim’s, no matter how low
that is. The dhimmi may not ride an elegant horse or mule; he may ride
a donkey only if the saddle-work is of wood. He may not walk on the
good part of the road. They [the dhimmis] have to wear [an
identifying] patch [on their clothing], even women, and even in the
[public] baths. … [Dhimmis] must hold their tongue.
The practical consequences of such a discriminatory system were
summarized by the great historian of Muslim and non-Muslim (especially
Jewish) relations during classical Islam, S.D. Goitein, in 1970 :
Taxation [by the Muslim government] was merciless, and a very large
section of the population must have lived permanently at the
starvation level. From many Geniza letters [a trove of Oriental Jewish
correspondence etc., particularly from the Middle Ages, discovered in
Egypt] one gets the impression that the poor were concerned more with
getting money for the payment of their taxes than for food and
clothing, for failure of payment usually induced cruel punishment. …
The Muslim state was quite the opposite of the ideals … embedded in
the constitution of the United States. An Islamic state was part of or
coincided with dar al-Islam, the House of Islam. Its treasury was …
the money of the Muslims. Christians and Jews were not citizens of the
state, not even second class citizens. They were outsiders under the
protection of the Muslim state, a status characterized by the term
dhimma … They were also exposed to a great number of discriminatory
and humiliating laws. … As it lies in the very nature of such
restrictions, soon additional humiliations were added, and before the
second century of Islam was out, a complete body of legislation in
this matter was in existence. … In times and places in which they
became too oppressive they lead to the dwindling or even complete
extinction of the minorities.
Important scholars of Islamic Antisemitism — from Hartwig Hirschfeld
in the mid-1880s, Georges Vajda in the late 1930s, S.D. Goitein in
1971, and Haggai Ben-Shammai in 1988 — have demonstrated,
collectively, all of the following:
– Clear historical evidence of specific Islamic anti-semitism, from
the Geniza record of the high Middle Ages — including the coinage of a
unique Hebrew word to characterize such Muslim Jew hatred, sinuth —
published in full by Goitein as of 1971
– The content of foundational Muslim sources detailing the sacralized
rationale for Islam’s anti-Jewish bigotry, including Hartwig
Hirschfeld’s mid-1880s essay series on Muhammad’s subjugation of the
Jews of Medina, based upon the earliest pious Muslim biographies of
Muhammad
– George Vajda’s elegant, comprehensive 1937 analysis focusing
primarily on the hadith (the putative words and deeds of the Muslim
prophet Muhammad, as recorded by his earliest pious Muslim companions)
– Haggai Ben-Shammai’s concise 1988 study of key examples of Jew-
hatred in the Koran and Koranic exegesis
For example, Koran 3:112 is featured before the pre-amble to Hamas’
foundational Covenant—it is literally part of the very first statement
of the document. Here is the standard Arberry translation of 3:112:
Abasement shall be pitched on them, wherever they are come upon,
except they be in a bond of God, and a bond of the people; they will
be laden with the burden of God’s anger, and poverty shall be pitched
on them; that, because they disbelieved in God’s signs, and slew the
Prophets without right; that, for that they acted rebelliously and
were transgressors.
In classical and modern Koranic exegeses by seminal, authoritative
Islamic theologians this central motif is coupled to Koranic verses
5:60, and 5:78, which describe the Jews transformation into apes and
pigs (5:60), or simply apes, (i.e. verses 2:65 and 7:166), having been
“…cursed by the tongue of David, and Jesus, Mary’s son” (5:78).
Muhammad himself — Islam’s founding prophet — repeats this Koranic
curse in a canonical hadith (Sunan Abu Dawoud, Book 37, Number 4322),
“He [Muhammad] then recited the verse [5:78]: ‘…curses were pronounced
on those among the children of Israel who rejected Faith, by the
tongue of David and of Jesus the son of Mary’”. And the related verse,
5:64, accuses the Jews—as Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud
Abbas did in a January 2007 speech, citing Koran 5:64—of being
“spreaders of war and corruption,” a sort of ancient Koranic
antecedent of The Protocols of the Elders of Zion.
The Koranic curse (verses 2:61/3:112) upon the Jews for (primarily)
rejecting, even slaying Allah’s prophets, including Isa, the Muslim
Jesus (or at least his “body double” 4:157-4:158), is updated with
perfect thematic logic in the canonical hadith: following the Muslims’
initial conquest of the Jewish farming oasis of Khaybar, one of the
vanquished Jewesses reportedly served Muhammad poisoned mutton (or
goat), which resulted, ultimately, in his protracted, agonizing death.
And Ibn Saad’s sira account—the sira being the earliest pious Muslim
biographies of Muhammad—maintains that Muhammad’s poisoning resulted
from a well-coordinated Jewish conspiracy.
As characterized in the hadith, Muslim eschatology highlights the
Jews’ supreme hostility to Islam. Jews are described as adherents of
the Dajjâl – the Muslim equivalent of the Anti-Christ – or according
to another tradition, the Dajjâl is himself Jewish. At his appearance,
other traditions maintain that the Dajjâl will be accompanied by
70,000 Jews from Isfahan, or Jerusalem, wrapped in their robes, and
armed with polished sabers, their heads covered with a sort of veil.
When the Dajjâl is defeated, his Jewish companions will be slaughtered—
everything will deliver them up except for the so-called gharkad tree,
as per the canonical hadith (Sahih Muslim, Book 41, Number 6985)
included in the 1988 Hamas Covenant (in article 7). This hadith is
cited in the Covenant as a sacralized, obligatory call for a Muslim
genocide of the Jews:
…the Islamic Resistance Movement aspires to realize the promise of
Allah, no matter how long it takes. The Prophet, Allah’s prayer and
peace be upon him, says: “The hour of judgment shall not come until
the Muslims fight the Jews and kill them, so that the Jews hide behind
trees and stones, and each tree and stone will say: ‘Oh Muslim, oh
servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him,’ except
for the Gharqad tree, for it is the tree of the Jews.” (Sahih Muslim,
Book 41, Number 6985)
Moreover, findings reported by the politically left Israel Foundation,
July 15, 2011, from an “intensive, face-to-face survey in Arabic of
1,010 Palestinian adults in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip”
revealed that 73% of this representative statistical sample of
Palestinians surveyed agree with the dictates of the annihilationist
canonical hadith (i.e., Sahih Muslim, Book 41, Number 6985) quoted in
the Hamas Covenant.
Unfortunately, Hamas’ views on Islamic Jew hatred, are entirely
concordant with those of the most authoritative religious educational
institution within Sunni Islam for over 1000 years, since the late
10th century—Al Azhar University, in Cairo, Egypt. Consider a fatwa
written January 5, 1956 by then Grand Mufti of Egypt, Sheikh Hasan
Ma’moun, and signed by the leading members of the Fatwa Committee of
Al Azhar, and the major representatives of all four Sunni Islamic
schools of jurisprudence. [English translation from State Department
Telegram 1763/ Embassy (Cairo) Telegram 1256 D441214] This ruling
elaborated the following key initial point: that all of historical
Palestine—modern Jordan, Israel, and the disputed territories of Judea
and Samaria, as well as Gaza—having been conquered by jihad, was a
permanent possession of the global Muslim umma (community), “fay
territory”—booty or spoils—to be governed eternally by Islamic Law.
The January, 1956 Al Azhar fatwa’s language and arguments are
indistinguishable from those employed by Hamas (in its Covenant),
revealing the same conjoined motivations of jihad, and conspiratorial
Islamic Jew hatred:
Muslims cannot conclude peace with those Jews who have usurped the
territory of Palestine and attacked its people and their property in
any manner which allows the Jews to continue as a state in that sacred
Muslim territory.
[as] Jews have taken a part of Palestine and there established their
non-Islamic government and have also evacuated from that part most of
its Muslim inhabitants… Jihad… to restore the country to its people..
is the duty of all Muslims, not just those who can undertake it. And
since all Islamic countries constitute the abode of every Muslim, the
Jihad is imperative for both the Muslims inhabiting the territory
attacked, and Muslims everywhere else because even though some
sections have not been attacked directly, the attack nevertheless took
place on a part of the Muslim territory which is a legitimate
residence for any Muslim.
Everyone knows that from the early days of Islam to the present day
the Jews have been plotting against Islam and Muslims and the Islamic
homeland. They do not propose to be content with the attack they made
on Palestine and Al Aqsa Mosque, but they plan for the possession of
all Islamic territories from the Nile to the Euphrates.
The continual, monotonous invocation by Al Azhar clerics of such
jihadist and antisemitic motifs from the Koran (or other foundational
Muslim texts) is entirely consistent with the published writings and
statements of the late Sheikh Muhammad Sayyid Tantawi—Grand Imam of
this pre-eminent Islamic religious institution from 1996, till his
death in March 2010.
My book The Legacy of Islamic Antisemitism includes extensive first
time English translations of Tantawi’s academic magnum opus, Jews in
the Koran and the Traditions. Tantawi wrote these words rationalizing
Muslim Jew-hatred, in his 700 page treatise:
[The] Koran describes the Jews with their own particular degenerate
characteristics, i.e. killing the prophets of Allah [Koran 2:61/
3:112], corrupting His words by putting them in the wrong places,
consuming the people’s wealth frivolously, refusal to distance
themselves from the evil they do, and other ugly characteristics
caused by their deep-rooted lasciviousness…only a minority of the Jews
keep their word…[A]ll Jews are not the same. The good ones become
Muslims [Koran 3:113], 41 the bad ones do not.
Tantawi was apparently rewarded for this scholarly effort by being
named Grand Imam of Al-Azhar University, a position he held for 14-
years. These were the expressed, “carefully researched” views on Jews
held by the nearest Muslim equivalent to a Pope – the head of the most
prestigious center of Muslim learning in Sunni Islam, which represents
some 85 to 90% of the world’s Muslims. And Sheikh Tantawi never
mollified such hatemongering beliefs after becoming the Grand Imam of
Al-Azhar as his statements on “dialogue” (January 1998) with Jews, the
Jews as “enemies of Allah, descendants of apes and pigs” (April 2002),
and the legitimacy of homicide bombing of Jews (April 2002) make
clear.
Here is but a very incomplete sampling of barely known pogroms and
mass murderous violence against Jews living under Islamic rule, across
space and time, all resulting from the combined effects of jihadism,
general anti-dhimmi, and/or specifically Antisemitic motifs in Islam:
6,000 Jews massacred in Fez in 1033; hundreds of Jews slaughtered in
Muslim Cordoba between 1010 and 1015; 4,000 Jews killed in Muslim
riots in Grenada in 1066, wiping out the entire community; the Berber
Muslim Almohad depredations of Jews (and Christians) in Spain and
North Africa between 1130 and 1232, which killed tens of thousands,
while forcibly converting thousands more, and subjecting the forced
Jewish converts to Islam to a Muslim Inquisition; the 1291 pogroms in
Baghdad and its environs, which killed (at least) hundreds of Jews;
the 1465 pogrom against the Jews of Fez; the late 15th century pogrom
against the Jews of the Southern Moroccan oasis town of Touat; the
1679 pogroms against, and then expulsion of 10,000 Jews from Sanaa,
Yemen to the unlivable, hot and dry Plain of Tihama, from which only
1,000 returned alive, in 1680, 90% having died from exposure;
recurring Muslim anti-Jewish violence—including pogroms and forced
conversions—throughout the 17th, 18th and 19th centuries, which
rendered areas of Iran (for example, Tabriz) Judenrein; the 1834
pogrom in Safed where raging Muslim mobs killed and grievously wounded
hundreds of Jews; the 1888 massacres of Jews in Isfahan and Shiraz,
Iran; the 1910 pogrom in Shiraz; the pillage and destruction of the
Casablanca, Morocco ghetto in 1907; the pillage of the ghetto of Fez
Morocco in 1912; the government sanctioned anti-Jewish pogroms by
Muslims in Turkish Eastern Thrace during June-July, 1934 which
ethnically cleansed at least 3000 Jews; and the series of pogroms,
expropriations, and finally mass expulsions of some 900,000 Jews from
Arab Muslim nations, beginning in 1941 in Baghdad (the murderous
“Farhud,” during which 600 Jews were murdered, and at least 12,000
pillaged)—eventually involving cities and towns in Egypt, Morocco,
Libya, Syria, Aden, Bahrain, and culminating in 1967 in Tunisia—that
accompanied the planning and creation of a Jewish state, Israel, on a
portion of the Jews’ ancestral homeland.
http://frontpagemag.com/2012/01/23/understanding-the-islam-in-muslim-jew-hatred/
Aviroce
May 28, 2012, 12:37:57 AM5/28/12
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Truth and honesty
May 28, 2012, 6:58:25 AM5/28/12
to
On Sun, 27 May 2012 21:37:57 -0700 (PDT),
> I am thy Lord. I say "Kill thy Jews man, woman and child." The more
> of them, the more evil they beget. Jews are thy Satan. Jews are thy
> Evil. Jews will burn in Hell forever. So when you come to kill a
> Jew. stab him in his throat and if he wiggles stab him in his heart
> and if he still wiggles put thy sword in his ass and let him scream
> for my mercy. Thy Lord has spoken. Follow thy Lord or you will
> receive the same ordeal. Amen.
Christianity and Judaism God does not command His faithful to strive in the
path of God to kill, convert, or subjugate non-believers.
--
The reality of Palestinian rule.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3e/1st_intifada_lynching.jpg
> I am thy Lord. I say "Kill thy Jews man, woman and child." The more
> of them, the more evil they beget. Jews are thy Satan. Jews are thy
> Evil. Jews will burn in Hell forever. So when you come to kill a
> Jew. stab him in his throat and if he wiggles stab him in his heart
> and if he still wiggles put thy sword in his ass and let him scream
> for my mercy. Thy Lord has spoken. Follow thy Lord or you will
> receive the same ordeal. Amen.
path of God to kill, convert, or subjugate non-believers.
--
The reality of Palestinian rule.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3e/1st_intifada_lynching.jpg
plainolamerican
May 28, 2012, 12:24:59 PM5/28/12
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On May 28, 12:00 am, "jwsheffi...@satx.rr.com"
> Hirschfeld’s mid-1880s essay series on ...
>
> read more »
we are
witnessing a swelling tide of Jew-hatred emanating from the triumphant
Islamists throughout the Middle East
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nothing new there
it's fun to watch zionists and muzzies kill each other
>
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we are
witnessing a swelling tide of Jew-hatred emanating from the triumphant
Islamists throughout the Middle East
nothing new there
it's fun to watch zionists and muzzies kill each other
jwshe...@satx.rr.com
May 28, 2012, 4:24:18 PM5/28/12
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On May 28, 11:24 am, plainolamerican <plainolameri...@gmail.com>
wrote:
" it's fun to watch zionists and muzzies kill each other"
FIRST COMES SATURDAY THEN COMES SUNDAY
Why has there been a great-and little reported-Christian exodus from
the Middle East, with some two million fleeing in the past 20 years
alone?
This Christian exodus is a result of many factors, including the
fighting between Israelis and Palestinians, the related decline of the
economy, but perhaps most significantly, the religious persecution
these Christians encounter from their Muslim neighbors.
"First comes saturday, then commes sunday "is a well known sentence in
the Middle East meaning : "First we take care of the Jews (who pray on
saturday) then we will take care of Christians, the "sunday people"
Pierre Rehov addresses again this alarming trend in his new film, a
sequence of "Holy Land: Christians in Peril. The film is a documentary
containing interviews with Christians as well as exclusive footage
showing
http://www.pierrerehov.com/fcstcs.htm
wrote:
" it's fun to watch zionists and muzzies kill each other"
Why has there been a great-and little reported-Christian exodus from
the Middle East, with some two million fleeing in the past 20 years
alone?
This Christian exodus is a result of many factors, including the
fighting between Israelis and Palestinians, the related decline of the
economy, but perhaps most significantly, the religious persecution
these Christians encounter from their Muslim neighbors.
"First comes saturday, then commes sunday "is a well known sentence in
the Middle East meaning : "First we take care of the Jews (who pray on
saturday) then we will take care of Christians, the "sunday people"
Pierre Rehov addresses again this alarming trend in his new film, a
sequence of "Holy Land: Christians in Peril. The film is a documentary
containing interviews with Christians as well as exclusive footage
showing
http://www.pierrerehov.com/fcstcs.htm
plainolamerican
May 29, 2012, 12:06:24 PM5/29/12
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On May 28, 3:24 pm, "jwsheffi...@satx.rr.com"
> ...
>
> read more »
"First we take care of the Jews (who pray on
saturday) then we will take care of Christians, the "sunday people"
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xians who stand between jews and muzzies are bound to be killed
>
> read more »
"First we take care of the Jews (who pray on
saturday) then we will take care of Christians, the "sunday people"
xians who stand between jews and muzzies are bound to be killed
jwshe...@satx.rr.com
May 29, 2012, 2:45:07 PM5/29/12
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On May 29, 11:06 am, plainolamerican <plainolameri...@gmail.com>
wrote:
"xians who stand between jews and muzzies are bound to be killed"
Let's see what the koran says about infidels like you.
KORAN commands to kill infidels:
Allah is an enemy to unbelievers. - Sura 2:98
On unbelievers is the curse of Allah. - Sura 2:161
Slay them wherever ye find them and drive them out of the places
whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter. -
2:191
Fight against them until idolatry is no more and Allah's religion
reigns supreme. (different translation: ) Fight them until there is no
persecution and the religion is God's entirely. - Sura 2:193 and 8:39
Fighting is obligatory for you, much as you dislike it. - 2:216
(different translation: ) Prescribed for you is fighting, though it is
hateful to you.
..... martyrs.... Enter heaven - Surah 3:140-43
If you should die or be killed in the cause of Allah, His mercy and
forgiveness would surely be better than all they riches they amass. If
you should die or be killed, before Him you shall all be gathered. -
3:157-8
You must not think that those who were slain in the cause of Allah are
dead. They are alive, and well-provided for by their Lord. - Surah
3:169-71
Let those fight in the cause of God who sell the life of this world
for the hereafter. To him who fights in the cause of God, whether he
is slain or victorious, soon we shall give him a great reward. - Surah
4:74
Those who believe fight in the cause of God, and those who reject
faith fight in the cause of evil. - 4:76
But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever you find
them. - 4:89
Therefore, we stirred among them enmity and hatred, which shall endure
till the Day of Resurrection, when Allah will declare to them all that
they have done. - 5:14
O believers, take not Jews and Christians as friends; they are friends
of each other. Those of you who make them his friends is one of them.
God does not guide an unjust people. - 5:54
Make war on them until idolatry is no more and Allah's religion reigns
supreme - 8:39
O Prophet! Exhort the believers to fight. If there are 20 steadfast
men among you, they shall vanquish 200; and if there are a hundred,
they shall rout a thousand unbelievers, for they are devoid of
understanding. - 8:65
It is not for any Prophet to have captives until he has made slaughter
in the land. - 8:67
Allah will humble the unbelievers. Allah and His apostle are free from
obligations to idol-worshipers. Proclaim a woeful punishment to the
unbelievers. - 9:2-3
When the sacred months are over, slay the idolaters wherever you find
them. Arrest them, besiege them, and lie in ambush everywhere for
them. - 9:5
Believers! Know that idolators are unclean. - 9:28
Fight those who believe neither in God nor the Last Day, nor what has
been forbidden by God and his messenger, nor acknowledge the religion
of Truth, even if they are People of the Book, until they pay the
tribute and have been humbled. - 9:29 (another source: ) The
unbelievers are impure and their abode is hell. (another source: )
Humiliate the non-Muslims to such an extent that they surrender and
pay tribute.
Whether unarmed or well-equipped, march on and fight for the cause of
Allah, with your wealth and your persons. - 9:41
O Prophet! Make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites. Be harsh
with them. Their ultimate abode is hell, a hapless journey's end. -
9:73
Allah has purchased of their faithful lives and worldly goods, and in
return has promised them the Garden. They will fight for His cause,
kill and be killed. - 9:111
Fight unbelievers who are near to you. 9:123 (different translation:
Believers! Make war on the infidels who dwell around you. Let them
find harshness in you. (another source: ) Ye who believe! Murder those
of the disbelievers....
As for those who are slain in the cause of Allah, He will not allow
their works to perish. He will vouchsafe them guidance and ennoble
their state; He will admit them to the Paradise He has made known to
them. - 10:4-15
Allah has cursed the unbelievers and proposed for them a blazing hell.
- 33:60
Unbelievers are enemies of Allah and they will roast in hell. - 41:14
When you meet the unbelievers, smite their necks, then when you have
made wide slaughter among them, tie fast the bonds, then set them
free, either by grace or ransom, until the war lays down its burdens.
- 47:4
(different translation: ) When you meet the unbelievers in the
battlefield, strike off their heads, and when you have laid them low,
bind your captives firmly.
Those who are slain in the way of Allah - he will never let their
deeds be lost. Soon will he guide them and improve their condition,
and admit them to the Garden, which he has announced for them. - 47:5
Muslims are harsh against the unbelievers, merciful to one another. -
48:25
Muhammad is Allah's apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless to the
unbelievers but merciful to one another. Through them, Allah seeks to
enrage the unbelievers. - 48:29
Prophet! Make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal
sternly with them. Hell shall be their home, evil their fate. - 66:9
The unbelievers among the People of the Book and the pagans shall burn
forever in the fire of hell. They are the vilest of all creatures. -
98:51
Fight them so that Allah may punish them at your hands, and put them
to shame. (verse cited in Newsweek 2/11/02)
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KORAN promises of houris in heaven:
Single-minded slaves of Allah... will be honored in the Gardens of
delight, on couches facing one another; A cup from a gushing spring is
brought round for them, white, delicious to the drinkers, wherein
there is no headache nor are they made mad thereby. And with them are
those of modest gaze, with lovely eyes, pure as they were hidden eggs.
- Surah 37:40-49
Lo, for those who ward off evil is a happy journey's end, Gardens of
Eden, whereof the gates are opened for the, wherein, reclining, they
call for plenteous fruit and cool drink therein. And with them are
those of modest gaze, companions. This it is that ye are promised for
the Day of Reckoning. - 38:50-54
Lo! Those who kept their duty will be in a place secure, amid gardens
and water-springs, attired in silk and silk embroidery, facing one
another.... And we shall wed them unto fair ones with wide, lovely
eyes. They call therein for every fruit in safety. They taste not
death therein, save the first death. And He hath saved them from the
doom of hell, a bounty from thy Lord. That is the supreme triumph. -
44:51-57
Lo! Those who kept their duty dwell in gardens and delight...
reclining on ranged couches. And we wed them unto fair ones with wide,
lovely eyes... and we provide them with fruit and meat such as they
desire.... - 52:17-22
...Reclining upon couches lined with silk brocade, the fruit of both
the gardens near to hand.... Therein are those of modest gaze, whom
neither man nor jinni will have touched before them.... - 55:54-56
Those are they who will be brought nigh, in gardens of delight...
reclining therein face to face. There wait on them immortal youths...
and fair ones with wide, lovely eyes, like unto hidden pearls, reward
for what they used to do.... Lo! We have created them a creation, and
made them virgins, lovers, friends. - 56:11-37
(Different translation) Companions with beautiful, big and lustrous
eyes... virgin-pure and undefiled.
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Koran "sharia" punishments:
As for the man who steals and the woman who steals, cut off their
hands as punishment for what they have earned, an exemplary punishment
from Allah. - Surah 5:38
http://www.wvinter.net/~haught/Koran.html
wrote:
"xians who stand between jews and muzzies are bound to be killed"
KORAN commands to kill infidels:
Allah is an enemy to unbelievers. - Sura 2:98
On unbelievers is the curse of Allah. - Sura 2:161
Slay them wherever ye find them and drive them out of the places
whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter. -
2:191
Fight against them until idolatry is no more and Allah's religion
reigns supreme. (different translation: ) Fight them until there is no
persecution and the religion is God's entirely. - Sura 2:193 and 8:39
Fighting is obligatory for you, much as you dislike it. - 2:216
(different translation: ) Prescribed for you is fighting, though it is
hateful to you.
..... martyrs.... Enter heaven - Surah 3:140-43
If you should die or be killed in the cause of Allah, His mercy and
forgiveness would surely be better than all they riches they amass. If
you should die or be killed, before Him you shall all be gathered. -
3:157-8
You must not think that those who were slain in the cause of Allah are
dead. They are alive, and well-provided for by their Lord. - Surah
3:169-71
Let those fight in the cause of God who sell the life of this world
for the hereafter. To him who fights in the cause of God, whether he
is slain or victorious, soon we shall give him a great reward. - Surah
4:74
Those who believe fight in the cause of God, and those who reject
faith fight in the cause of evil. - 4:76
But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever you find
them. - 4:89
Therefore, we stirred among them enmity and hatred, which shall endure
till the Day of Resurrection, when Allah will declare to them all that
they have done. - 5:14
O believers, take not Jews and Christians as friends; they are friends
of each other. Those of you who make them his friends is one of them.
God does not guide an unjust people. - 5:54
Make war on them until idolatry is no more and Allah's religion reigns
supreme - 8:39
O Prophet! Exhort the believers to fight. If there are 20 steadfast
men among you, they shall vanquish 200; and if there are a hundred,
they shall rout a thousand unbelievers, for they are devoid of
understanding. - 8:65
It is not for any Prophet to have captives until he has made slaughter
in the land. - 8:67
Allah will humble the unbelievers. Allah and His apostle are free from
obligations to idol-worshipers. Proclaim a woeful punishment to the
unbelievers. - 9:2-3
When the sacred months are over, slay the idolaters wherever you find
them. Arrest them, besiege them, and lie in ambush everywhere for
them. - 9:5
Believers! Know that idolators are unclean. - 9:28
Fight those who believe neither in God nor the Last Day, nor what has
been forbidden by God and his messenger, nor acknowledge the religion
of Truth, even if they are People of the Book, until they pay the
tribute and have been humbled. - 9:29 (another source: ) The
unbelievers are impure and their abode is hell. (another source: )
Humiliate the non-Muslims to such an extent that they surrender and
pay tribute.
Whether unarmed or well-equipped, march on and fight for the cause of
Allah, with your wealth and your persons. - 9:41
O Prophet! Make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites. Be harsh
with them. Their ultimate abode is hell, a hapless journey's end. -
9:73
Allah has purchased of their faithful lives and worldly goods, and in
return has promised them the Garden. They will fight for His cause,
kill and be killed. - 9:111
Fight unbelievers who are near to you. 9:123 (different translation:
Believers! Make war on the infidels who dwell around you. Let them
find harshness in you. (another source: ) Ye who believe! Murder those
of the disbelievers....
As for those who are slain in the cause of Allah, He will not allow
their works to perish. He will vouchsafe them guidance and ennoble
their state; He will admit them to the Paradise He has made known to
them. - 10:4-15
Allah has cursed the unbelievers and proposed for them a blazing hell.
- 33:60
Unbelievers are enemies of Allah and they will roast in hell. - 41:14
When you meet the unbelievers, smite their necks, then when you have
made wide slaughter among them, tie fast the bonds, then set them
free, either by grace or ransom, until the war lays down its burdens.
- 47:4
(different translation: ) When you meet the unbelievers in the
battlefield, strike off their heads, and when you have laid them low,
bind your captives firmly.
Those who are slain in the way of Allah - he will never let their
deeds be lost. Soon will he guide them and improve their condition,
and admit them to the Garden, which he has announced for them. - 47:5
Muslims are harsh against the unbelievers, merciful to one another. -
48:25
Muhammad is Allah's apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless to the
unbelievers but merciful to one another. Through them, Allah seeks to
enrage the unbelievers. - 48:29
Prophet! Make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal
sternly with them. Hell shall be their home, evil their fate. - 66:9
The unbelievers among the People of the Book and the pagans shall burn
forever in the fire of hell. They are the vilest of all creatures. -
98:51
Fight them so that Allah may punish them at your hands, and put them
to shame. (verse cited in Newsweek 2/11/02)
-------
KORAN promises of houris in heaven:
Single-minded slaves of Allah... will be honored in the Gardens of
delight, on couches facing one another; A cup from a gushing spring is
brought round for them, white, delicious to the drinkers, wherein
there is no headache nor are they made mad thereby. And with them are
those of modest gaze, with lovely eyes, pure as they were hidden eggs.
- Surah 37:40-49
Lo, for those who ward off evil is a happy journey's end, Gardens of
Eden, whereof the gates are opened for the, wherein, reclining, they
call for plenteous fruit and cool drink therein. And with them are
those of modest gaze, companions. This it is that ye are promised for
the Day of Reckoning. - 38:50-54
Lo! Those who kept their duty will be in a place secure, amid gardens
and water-springs, attired in silk and silk embroidery, facing one
another.... And we shall wed them unto fair ones with wide, lovely
eyes. They call therein for every fruit in safety. They taste not
death therein, save the first death. And He hath saved them from the
doom of hell, a bounty from thy Lord. That is the supreme triumph. -
44:51-57
Lo! Those who kept their duty dwell in gardens and delight...
reclining on ranged couches. And we wed them unto fair ones with wide,
lovely eyes... and we provide them with fruit and meat such as they
desire.... - 52:17-22
...Reclining upon couches lined with silk brocade, the fruit of both
the gardens near to hand.... Therein are those of modest gaze, whom
neither man nor jinni will have touched before them.... - 55:54-56
Those are they who will be brought nigh, in gardens of delight...
reclining therein face to face. There wait on them immortal youths...
and fair ones with wide, lovely eyes, like unto hidden pearls, reward
for what they used to do.... Lo! We have created them a creation, and
made them virgins, lovers, friends. - 56:11-37
(Different translation) Companions with beautiful, big and lustrous
eyes... virgin-pure and undefiled.
--------
Koran "sharia" punishments:
As for the man who steals and the woman who steals, cut off their
hands as punishment for what they have earned, an exemplary punishment
from Allah. - Surah 5:38
http://www.wvinter.net/~haught/Koran.html
plainolamerican
May 29, 2012, 6:08:33 PM5/29/12
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On May 29, 1:45 pm, "jwsheffi...@satx.rr.com"
---
I know what the muzzies say about infidels and what the jews say about
goyim.
the jews and muzzies can kill each other till they are gone ... we owe
them nothing but contempt
I know what the muzzies say about infidels and what the jews say about
goyim.
the jews and muzzies can kill each other till they are gone ... we owe
them nothing but contempt
Aviroce
May 29, 2012, 7:53:35 PM5/29/12
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Ideologically, the Talmud and Torahs advocate the killing of non-Jews
especially the gentiles. The Protocols of the Learned Leaders of Zion
openly declare war on all non-Jews to enslave them for the Kingdom of
Zion.
God is a generic term and it is empty. For Jews, they consider
themselves god. As evil as Jews are so is their god.
Christians consider a human as god. Human cannot be a god. Human is
a mortal. If human is god then god is dead.
The new theory of a god is Gravity. Gravity seems the most plausible
explanation for the Natural Phenomenon. Muslims seem to have beleived
in Nature and Natural Processes and Society and Social Processes so
that Allah is reflective of all of these. Keep in mind, Aviroce (Ibn
Rushd) said, "Allah created the Universe and He let go of it." Such a
theory is more modern for Islam than any religious belief.
> The reality of Palestinian rule.http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3e/1st_intifada_lynch...
especially the gentiles. The Protocols of the Learned Leaders of Zion
openly declare war on all non-Jews to enslave them for the Kingdom of
Zion.
God is a generic term and it is empty. For Jews, they consider
themselves god. As evil as Jews are so is their god.
Christians consider a human as god. Human cannot be a god. Human is
a mortal. If human is god then god is dead.
The new theory of a god is Gravity. Gravity seems the most plausible
explanation for the Natural Phenomenon. Muslims seem to have beleived
in Nature and Natural Processes and Society and Social Processes so
that Allah is reflective of all of these. Keep in mind, Aviroce (Ibn
Rushd) said, "Allah created the Universe and He let go of it." Such a
theory is more modern for Islam than any religious belief.
Aviroce
May 29, 2012, 8:03:54 PM5/29/12
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Your sentiment is really Western policy. Although USA created Israel
not Jewish state as you can see what Truman did to the not submitted
for him to sign, USA used Israel as a launching pad against
Palestinians, Arabs and Muslims. Now USA can be on its own. But Jews
feel they helped to enter and they want some.
not Jewish state as you can see what Truman did to the not submitted
for him to sign, USA used Israel as a launching pad against
Palestinians, Arabs and Muslims. Now USA can be on its own. But Jews
feel they helped to enter and they want some.
Aviroce
May 29, 2012, 8:06:20 PM5/29/12
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Dan <Danwig...@hotmail.com> posted:
Jews Banished 47 Times In 1000 Years - Why ?
Why so often? Why across such a variety
of nations and cultures??? Why does no other people on earth
come near to this record of eliciting averse responses?
From Dick Eastman
2-7-9
In his book, L'antisémitisme son histoire et ses causes, published in
1894,
noted Jewish author, Bernard Lazare, stated the following with regard
to
these
expulsions of Jews,
"If this hostility, even aversion, had only been shown towards
the Jews at one period and in one country, it would be easy
to unravel the limited causes of this anger, but this race
has
been on the contrary an object of hatred to all the peoples
among whom it has established itself. It must be therefore,
since the enemies of the Jews belonged to the most diverse
races,
since they lived in countries very distant from each other;
since
they were ruled by very different laws, governed by opposite
principles, since they had neither the same morals, nor the
same customs, since they were animated by unlike dispositions
which did not permit them to judge of anything in the same
way,
it must be therefore that the general cause of anti-Semitism
has
always resided in Israel itself and not in those who have
fought against Israel."
Professor Jesse H. Holmes, writing in, "The American Hebrew,"
expressed the
following similar sentiments,
"It can hardly be an accident that antagonism directed against
the Jews is to be found pretty much everywhere in the world
where Jews and non-Jews are associated. And as the Jews are
the common element of the situation it would seem probable,
on the face of it, that the cause will be found in them
rather
than in the widely varying groups which feel this
antagonism."
Just in Europe and Russia alone, the Jews have been banished 47 times
in the
last 1,000 years:
Mainz, 1012
France, 1182
Upper Bavaria, 1276
England, 1290
France, 1306
France, 1322
Saxony, 1349
Hungary, 1360
Belgium, 1370
Slovakia, 1380
France, 1394
Austria, 1420
Lyons, 1420
Cologne, 1424
Mainz, 1438
Augsburg, 1438
Upper Bavaria, 1442
Netherlands, 1444
Brandenburg, 1446
Mainz, 1462
Lithuania, 1495
Portugal, 1496
Naples, 1496
Navarre, 1498
Nuremberg, 1498
Brandenburg, 1510
Prussia, 1510
Genoa, 1515
Naples, 1533
Italy, 1540
Naples, 1541
Prague, 1541
Genoa, 1550
Bavaria, 1551
Prague, 1557
Papal States, 1569
Hungary, 1582
Hamburg, 1649
Vienna, 1669
Slovakia, 1744
Mainz, 1483
Warsaw, 1483
Spain, 1492
Italy, 1492
Moravia, 1744
Bohemia, 1744
Moscow, 1891
*
The above is excerpted from The Synagogue of Satan by Andrew
Carrington
Hitchcock.
Did Legendary Automaker Industrialist Henry Ford Have Part Of The
Answer Of
Jewish Persecution?
"The genius of the Jews is to live off people, not off the
land,
nor off the production of commodities from raw materials,
but off people. Let other people till the soil; the Jew,
if he can, will live off the tiller. Let other people toil at
trades and manufacture; the Jew will exploit the fruits of
their work. That is his particular genius. If this genius be
described as parasitic, the term would seem to be justified."
"The Jewish nation is the only nation that possesses the
secrets
of all the rest...there is no government in the world so
completely
at their service as America. 'The British did this...the
Germans
did that' when it was the International Jew who actually did
it."
"The Americans are (now known as) a sordid, greedy, cruel
people.
Why? Because Jewish money-power is centered here."
-- Henry Ford, Sr Author - 'The International
Jew'
On May 29, 11:45 am, "jwsheffi...@satx.rr.com"
Jews Banished 47 Times In 1000 Years - Why ?
Why so often? Why across such a variety
of nations and cultures??? Why does no other people on earth
come near to this record of eliciting averse responses?
From Dick Eastman
2-7-9
In his book, L'antisémitisme son histoire et ses causes, published in
1894,
noted Jewish author, Bernard Lazare, stated the following with regard
to
these
expulsions of Jews,
"If this hostility, even aversion, had only been shown towards
the Jews at one period and in one country, it would be easy
to unravel the limited causes of this anger, but this race
has
been on the contrary an object of hatred to all the peoples
among whom it has established itself. It must be therefore,
since the enemies of the Jews belonged to the most diverse
races,
since they lived in countries very distant from each other;
since
they were ruled by very different laws, governed by opposite
principles, since they had neither the same morals, nor the
same customs, since they were animated by unlike dispositions
which did not permit them to judge of anything in the same
way,
it must be therefore that the general cause of anti-Semitism
has
always resided in Israel itself and not in those who have
fought against Israel."
Professor Jesse H. Holmes, writing in, "The American Hebrew,"
expressed the
following similar sentiments,
"It can hardly be an accident that antagonism directed against
the Jews is to be found pretty much everywhere in the world
where Jews and non-Jews are associated. And as the Jews are
the common element of the situation it would seem probable,
on the face of it, that the cause will be found in them
rather
than in the widely varying groups which feel this
antagonism."
Just in Europe and Russia alone, the Jews have been banished 47 times
in the
last 1,000 years:
Mainz, 1012
France, 1182
Upper Bavaria, 1276
England, 1290
France, 1306
France, 1322
Saxony, 1349
Hungary, 1360
Belgium, 1370
Slovakia, 1380
France, 1394
Austria, 1420
Lyons, 1420
Cologne, 1424
Mainz, 1438
Augsburg, 1438
Upper Bavaria, 1442
Netherlands, 1444
Brandenburg, 1446
Mainz, 1462
Lithuania, 1495
Portugal, 1496
Naples, 1496
Navarre, 1498
Nuremberg, 1498
Brandenburg, 1510
Prussia, 1510
Genoa, 1515
Naples, 1533
Italy, 1540
Naples, 1541
Prague, 1541
Genoa, 1550
Bavaria, 1551
Prague, 1557
Papal States, 1569
Hungary, 1582
Hamburg, 1649
Vienna, 1669
Slovakia, 1744
Mainz, 1483
Warsaw, 1483
Spain, 1492
Italy, 1492
Moravia, 1744
Bohemia, 1744
Moscow, 1891
*
The above is excerpted from The Synagogue of Satan by Andrew
Carrington
Hitchcock.
Did Legendary Automaker Industrialist Henry Ford Have Part Of The
Answer Of
Jewish Persecution?
"The genius of the Jews is to live off people, not off the
land,
nor off the production of commodities from raw materials,
but off people. Let other people till the soil; the Jew,
if he can, will live off the tiller. Let other people toil at
trades and manufacture; the Jew will exploit the fruits of
their work. That is his particular genius. If this genius be
described as parasitic, the term would seem to be justified."
"The Jewish nation is the only nation that possesses the
secrets
of all the rest...there is no government in the world so
completely
at their service as America. 'The British did this...the
Germans
did that' when it was the International Jew who actually did
it."
"The Americans are (now known as) a sordid, greedy, cruel
people.
Why? Because Jewish money-power is centered here."
-- Henry Ford, Sr Author - 'The International
Jew'
On May 29, 11:45 am, "jwsheffi...@satx.rr.com"
Aviroce
May 29, 2012, 7:58:54 PM5/29/12
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"Kill these damned, traitors called Jews."
On May 27, 10:00 pm, "jwsheffi...@satx.rr.com"
>
> read more »
TheZ
May 30, 2012, 5:14:34 PM5/30/12
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Both statements are pure bullshit lies. But then that is all Muslims ever do
is lie for Allah.
"Aviroce" <dudar...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:754c4ecb-9b39-4955...@m8g2000yqo.googlegroups.com...
is lie for Allah.
"Aviroce" <dudar...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:754c4ecb-9b39-4955...@m8g2000yqo.googlegroups.com...
Aviroce
May 31, 2012, 2:16:48 AM5/31/12
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You need to believe in Nature and Natural Processes, Society and
Social Processes. You need to read Islamic only book the Koran and
get more educated. Jews books are filthy and based upon pure
animality.
On May 30, 2:14 pm, "TheZ" <T...@nospam.com> wrote:
> Both statements are pure bullshit lies. But then that is all Muslims ever do
> is lie for Allah.
>
> "Aviroce" <dudaras...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > rule.http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3e/1st_intifada_lynch...- Hide quoted text -
Social Processes. You need to read Islamic only book the Koran and
get more educated. Jews books are filthy and based upon pure
animality.
On May 30, 2:14 pm, "TheZ" <T...@nospam.com> wrote:
> Both statements are pure bullshit lies. But then that is all Muslims ever do
> is lie for Allah.
>
plainolamerican
May 31, 2012, 1:25:50 PM5/31/12
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Christianity and Judaism God does not command His faithful to strive
in the
path of God to kill, convert, or subjugate non-believers.
(Deut. 7.1-2; 20.16-18). The destruction was to be complete: every
man, woman, and child was to be killed. The book of Joshua tells the
story of Israel’s carrying out God’s command in city after city
throughout Canaan.
Aviroce
Jun 1, 2012, 8:17:01 PM6/1/12
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I WANTED TO CHANGE THE SUBJECT TO MY NEW TOPIC OF TODAY ABOUT THE
CHILD CALLED ADOLPH HITLER. BUT READING THE TOPIC ABOVE I THINK IT IS
REFLECTIVE OF JEW HISTORY AND PERSONALITY AND MY SMALL COMMENT BELOW
IT SAYS IT ALL, TO WIT:
CHILD CALLED ADOLPH HITLER. BUT READING THE TOPIC ABOVE I THINK IT IS
REFLECTIVE OF JEW HISTORY AND PERSONALITY AND MY SMALL COMMENT BELOW
IT SAYS IT ALL, TO WIT:
On May 30, 2:14 pm, "TheZ" <T...@nospam.com> wrote:
> Both statements are pure bullshit lies. But then that is all Muslims ever do
> is lie for Allah.
>
> "Aviroce" <dudaras...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> is lie for Allah.
>
Aviroce
Jun 1, 2012, 8:21:16 PM6/1/12
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YOUR IGNORANCE AND DECEPTION IS FLAGGED LIKE FIRE OVER THE FLAG IN THE
MIDDLE OF DARKNESS. YOU NEVER READ ANYTHING ABOUT THE TALMUD, TORAHS,
MEDIEVEL CHURCH. I THOUGHT ONE THE POPES WAS KILLING PEOPLE IN EUROPE
24/7 INCLUDING THE 1/4 DAY PER YEAR, PIUS 10? HOW MUCH OF PARADISE
DID YOU BUY?
On May 31, 10:25 am, plainolamerican <plainolameri...@gmail.com>
wrote:
MIDDLE OF DARKNESS. YOU NEVER READ ANYTHING ABOUT THE TALMUD, TORAHS,
MEDIEVEL CHURCH. I THOUGHT ONE THE POPES WAS KILLING PEOPLE IN EUROPE
24/7 INCLUDING THE 1/4 DAY PER YEAR, PIUS 10? HOW MUCH OF PARADISE
DID YOU BUY?
On May 31, 10:25 am, plainolamerican <plainolameri...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Rockinghorse Winner
Jun 5, 2012, 3:25:17 AM6/5/12
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Aviroce <dudar...@gmail.com> writes:
>You need to believe in Nature and Natural Processes, Society and
>Social Processes. You need to read Islamic only book the Koran and
>get more educated. Jews books are filthy and based upon pure
>animality.
You need not to top post, moron (sorry to all the morons out there).
>You need to believe in Nature and Natural Processes, Society and
>Social Processes. You need to read Islamic only book the Koran and
>get more educated. Jews books are filthy and based upon pure
>animality.
Terry
--
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Run on the top of the dishevelled tide, |/ Gentoo Linux
And dance upon the mountains like a flame." |/
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plainolamerican
Jun 5, 2012, 8:12:46 PM6/5/12
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YOU NEVER READ ANYTHING ABOUT THE TALMUD, TORAHS,
MEDIEVEL CHURCH.
wrong
I THOUGHT ONE THE POPES WAS KILLING PEOPLE IN EUROPE
24/7 INCLUDING THE 1/4 DAY PER YEAR, PIUS 10?
who told you that?
HOW MUCH OF PARADISE
DID YOU BUY?
like the mythical hell and heaven ... we make paradise and defend it
TheZ
Jun 5, 2012, 9:39:11 PM6/5/12
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Is that why 99% of the Koran's good verses come from the Jewish Torah?
news:295634eb-6f71-49c5...@j25g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
news:295634eb-6f71-49c5...@j25g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
Aviroce
Jun 5, 2012, 11:12:56 PM6/5/12
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I read it on the Internet. Pius IX ? But surely Pius. Yes. We make
paradise.
> like the mythical hell and heaven ... we make paradise and defend it- Hide quoted text -
paradise.
Aviroce
Jun 5, 2012, 11:20:48 PM6/5/12
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Prophet Mohammed was a great judge and great leader and great social
worker and a great politician. He used Judaism prophets to unite and
expand the Legal Social System based upon education, wholesomeness,
equality of people, justice for all, ...Yet Jews never accepted him.
Now Jews are using all kinds of excuses to take revenge on Muslims by
stealing Palestine and killing Palestinians, Arabs and Muslims. What
goes around comes around. Palestinians, Arabs and Muslims will return
the favor.
But to say that Mohammed took verses from Torahs, and Talmuds, I doubt
the Talmuds and may be some Torahs. He took the mythical figures and
affirmed as true and built his Legal Social System ideology. The
Talmuds were not translated until few hundred years later. When
Muslims heard what it said they almost wanted to kill the translator
you call your great prophet.
On Jun 5, 6:39 pm, "TheZ" <T...@nospam.com> wrote:
> Is that why 99% of the Koran's good verses come from the Jewish Torah?
>
> > > Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
worker and a great politician. He used Judaism prophets to unite and
expand the Legal Social System based upon education, wholesomeness,
equality of people, justice for all, ...Yet Jews never accepted him.
Now Jews are using all kinds of excuses to take revenge on Muslims by
stealing Palestine and killing Palestinians, Arabs and Muslims. What
goes around comes around. Palestinians, Arabs and Muslims will return
the favor.
But to say that Mohammed took verses from Torahs, and Talmuds, I doubt
the Talmuds and may be some Torahs. He took the mythical figures and
affirmed as true and built his Legal Social System ideology. The
Talmuds were not translated until few hundred years later. When
Muslims heard what it said they almost wanted to kill the translator
you call your great prophet.
On Jun 5, 6:39 pm, "TheZ" <T...@nospam.com> wrote:
> Is that why 99% of the Koran's good verses come from the Jewish Torah?
>
>
> > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
TheZ
Jun 6, 2012, 12:39:14 AM6/6/12
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Mohammed historically was an illiterate camel herder who pedophiles his 6
year old wife Aisha.
news:6f41e566-e005-410f...@p13g2000yqk.googlegroups.com...
year old wife Aisha.
news:6f41e566-e005-410f...@p13g2000yqk.googlegroups.com...
Aviroce
Jun 7, 2012, 1:03:13 AM6/7/12
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AAISHA WAS A GREAT HEROINE. WHEN HER HUSBAND DIED, SHE RODE THE HORSE
AND LED THE TROOPS. HER NAME RINGS LOUDLY IN ALL COMMUNITIES. IN
AMERICA, THEY CALL HER ALL KINDS OF NAMES:AESHA, AESHA, ISHA, MOESHA,
AND MANY MORE CONTRIVED NAMES BASED UPON THIS GREAT HEROINE. MUSLIM
WOMEN FOUGHT IN WARS. MUSLIM WOMEN ARE THE GREATEST WOMEN. THEY
DEFINED THEIR CULTURAL HABITS AND STUCK TO THEM ACCORDING TO THEIR
KIND OF SOCIETY.
On Jun 5, 9:39 pm, "TheZ" <T...@nospam.com> wrote:
> Mohammed historically was an illiterate camel herder who pedophiles his 6
> year old wife Aisha.
>
AND LED THE TROOPS. HER NAME RINGS LOUDLY IN ALL COMMUNITIES. IN
AMERICA, THEY CALL HER ALL KINDS OF NAMES:AESHA, AESHA, ISHA, MOESHA,
AND MANY MORE CONTRIVED NAMES BASED UPON THIS GREAT HEROINE. MUSLIM
WOMEN FOUGHT IN WARS. MUSLIM WOMEN ARE THE GREATEST WOMEN. THEY
DEFINED THEIR CULTURAL HABITS AND STUCK TO THEM ACCORDING TO THEIR
KIND OF SOCIETY.
On Jun 5, 9:39 pm, "TheZ" <T...@nospam.com> wrote:
> Mohammed historically was an illiterate camel herder who pedophiles his 6
> year old wife Aisha.
>
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