Re: 'Hamas PM: Obama trip confirms bias toward Israel'...but what of his love for his new friends in the Muslim Brotherhood?

[RichTravsky]

Obama's, Legion, of, Flash, Mobs, @, 7/11.nig wrote:
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> On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 19:23:27 -0600, Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:
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> >On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 16:47:35 -0700, MattB .
> ><trdel...@spamnogmail.com> wrote:
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> >>US President Barack Obama's visit to the region confirmed his bias
> >>toward Israel, Hamas Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh told crowds in Gaza
> >>in a speech on the eve of the 37th Land Day, Palestinian news agency
> >>Ma'an reported.
> >
> >Why would anything Hamas says be of importance?
> >
> >You posted it because it's dissing Obama?
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> He's posting it as an omen of things to come.

You mean continued support for Israel by Obama...

[RichTravsky]

Obama's, Legion, of, Flash, Mobs, @, 7/11.nig wrote:
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> That's the story

And the reality.

RT

[plainolamerican]

On Apr 7, 10:02 pm, Obama's Legion of Flash Mobs @ 7/11.nig wrote:
> On Sun, 07 Apr 2013 13:53:57 -0600, RichTravsky

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> >Obama's, Legion, of, Flash, Mobs, @, 7/11.nig wrote:
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> >> On Tue, 02 Apr 2013 19:57:29 -0600, RichTravsky
> >> <traRvEskyM...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> >> >Obama's, Legion, of, Flash, Mobs, @, 7/11.nig wrote:
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> >> >> On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 19:23:27 -0600, Yoorg...@Jurgis.net wrote:
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> >> >> >On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 16:47:35 -0700, MattB    .
> >> >> ><trdell1...@spamnogmail.com> wrote:
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> >> >> >>US President Barack Obama's visit to the region confirmed his bias
> >> >> >>toward Israel, Hamas Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh told crowds in Gaza
> >> >> >>in a speech on the eve of the 37th Land Day, Palestinian news agency
> >> >> >>Ma'an reported.
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> >> >> >Why would anything Hamas says be of importance?
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> >> >> >You posted it because it's dissing Obama?
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> >> >> He's posting it as an omen of things to come.
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> >> >You mean continued support for Israel by Obama...
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> >> That's the story
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> >And the reality.
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> The reality is Israel is surrounded by a sea of Muslim Brotherhood.
> Whether in el Qaeda, in the Republican guard of Iran, Syria, Iraq,
> Afghanistan or Egypt, the Arab Spring (started by Bill Ayers community
> organizing) is united in hating Jews, Christians and the West.
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> Here comes Obama aiding Egypt with money and weapons, he refuses to
> increase security for Chris Stevens in Libya three times. He orders a
> "stand down order" on rescue operations. He then covers up the whole
> thing by attempting to blame it on an anti-Islamo film maker and hides
> the embassy staff from the press.
>
> The reality is Obama is no friend to any anyone and that's what makes
> it an omen of things to come.

The reality is Israel is surrounded by a sea of Muslim Brotherhood
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not an American concern.

[MattB .]

Then you'd have no problem with Israel also firing missiles into Gaza
at civilians blindly as not a American concern?

Well looks like it might be total war again real soon.

[plainolamerican]

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obsolutely.
choose sides carefully.

Well looks like it might be total war again real soon.

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fund your own charities.

[MattB .]

Liberals don't fund much to busy trying to be every ones boss and
living off debt. Most liberals are freeloaders.

Blow Gaza off the map. End of Problem?

[Capt. Justice]

Israel: US, West Must Threaten to Attack Iran Within Next Month
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Steinitz: Iran Must Halt Entire Program or Face Attack
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by Jason Ditz, April 07, 2013
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The latest round of talks between the P5+1 and Iran came screeching to a
halt this weekend when Iran offered a proposal to settle the issue once
and for all, a proposal which appears to have made Western nations,
which were hoping to milk these do-nothing summits for many more years,
exceedingly uncomfortable.
.
Not that this is over with, however, it's business as usual, and for
Israel that means insisting that the latest round of talks proves the
need for a war. Strategic Affairs Minister Yuval Steinitz is demanding
that the US and other Western nations immediately issue an ultimatum to
Iran to submit entirely or face invasion.
Steinitz's comments center on a long-standing divide between the US and
Israel on whether the regular US threats to attack Iran are enough, or
if threatening them somewhat more often and with more specificity would
be a better idea.
.
Steinitz wants this next round of threats to be really specific,
insisting the US must set a red line of Iran totally abandoning its
civilian nuclear program in "a few weeks, a month" at the most, and that
it would face immediate attack if it did not do so.
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The US seems to be taking the bait, with Secretary of State John Kerry
reiterating that the talks "cannot last forever." Since the US seems
uncomfortable with the idea of ever accepting a deal with Iran, it seems
the only alternatives left are to start a war or just talk forever.
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The threats may set the stage for the coveted 'June war' that Israeli
officials have talked up in the past, but the who process must not be
overstated, since of course every single time the P5+1 meets with Iran
it is followed by a flurry of hysterical war-mongering, instigated by
some Israeli official or another, and doesn't necessarily mean anything
beyond those officials hoping to score points with their hawkish
constituents.
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http://news.antiwar.com/2013/04/07/israel-us-west-must-threaten-to-attack-iran-within-next-month/

Last 5 posts by Jason Ditz .
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US to Adopt Risky Tit-for-Tat Retaliation System for North Korea - April
7th, 2013
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The Un-De-Baathification of Iraq - April 7th, 2013
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Pakistan's Musharraf Can Run for Parliament Despite Pending Charges -
April 7th, 2013
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US General: Taliban a 'Long-Term' Threat After 2014 - April 7th, 2013
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US Delays Missile Test, But Remains Hostile to North Korea - April 7th,
2013

[Capt. Justice]

Israel Shoots Down US Proposal for Concessions to Palestinians
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Kerry Pushes Abbas to Talk, But Israel Won't Budge on Any Preconditions

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by Jason Ditz, April 07, 2013
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Secretary of State John Kerry's efforts to kickstart a new round of
talks between Israel and the Palestinian Authority seem to be dead
before they started, as suggestions of a "land-for-talks" deal were
immediately shot down by Israeli officials as unacceptable.
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Kerry had sought a deal that would give the PA more de facto control
over Palestinian territory in the near-term in return for them agreeing
to return to talks. PA officials say that the issue of prisoner
mistreatment is the most pressing concern for them, and remains at the
top of their own list.
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Israeli officials say that the gap between their government's position
on Palestinian statehood and the PA's position is so wide that there is
no point in making even minor concessions to return to talks, adding
that any concessions would 'harm Israel.'
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Israeli officials have demanded an unconditional return to talks with no
preconditions attached. PA officials have said they need at a minimum a
freeze on settlement expansion, since they can't negotiate final borders
with the territory available for them constantly shrinking during the
talks as more is appropriated to the settlement enterprise.
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http://news.antiwar.com/2013/04/07/israel-shoots-down-us-proposal-for-concessions-to-palestinians/

Last 5 posts by Jason Ditz .
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Kerry Maintains Israel-Palestinian Peace 'Possible' - April 8th, 2013

[RichTravsky]

Obama's, Legion, of, Flash, Mobs, @, 7/11.nig wrote:
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> On Sun, 07 Apr 2013 13:53:57 -0600, RichTravsky

> The reality is Israel is surrounded by a sea of Muslim Brotherhood.

The reality is that Obama is standing by them.

[plainolamerican]

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let the animals in the middle east go at it without US weapons and
financial support.
Americans owe them all nothing but contempt for killing our soldiers
and extorting our government.

[MattB .]

If Israel uses all out warfare they could completely take Gaza and
lebanon. Egypt doesn't want war, Jordan doesn't want war have peace
treaties. Syria has it's own problems. Iran doesn't have the means
except long range missiles and Israel would turn Iran into glass.

So war isn't the answer even if we cut aid to Israel.

Then we'd have to cut aid to the UN to stop our money going to Gaza.

So do you have a proposal for peace that will work in today's world?

[plainolamerican]

On Apr 10, 1:25 pm, MattB . <trdell1...@spamnogmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Apr 2013 07:15:24 -0700 (PDT), plainolamerican
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Removing those from our government who accept bribes and extortion
from these animals must be replaced asap by any means necessary.

The animals in asia, africa, the middle east, europe and s.america do
not have the ability to live in peace and America should not be
funding their wars.

[MattB .]

That would include so many liberals.

[MattB .]

On Wed, 10 Apr 2013 16:49:24 -0600, Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:

>On Wed, 10 Apr 2013 11:25:56 -0700, MattB .
><trdel...@spamnogmail.com> wrote:
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>>If Israel uses all out warfare they could completely take Gaza and
>>lebanon.
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>That's how they got the original land---stealing, you dipshit.


LOL

Britain should have never left.

[TheZ]

You can't steal what you legally own. The Arabs are lucky the Jews let them
have some of the land that is rightly theirs.

<Yoor...@Jurgis.net> wrote in message
news:4i0em891amab9chj4...@4ax.com...

> On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 12:52:23 -0400, Obama's Legion of Flash Mobs @
> 7/11.nig wrote:
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>>>The reality is Obama is no friend to any anyone and that's what makes

>>>it an omen of things to come.
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>>Yayuh
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> The reality is that Israel stole that land, is oppressive, is stealing
> more by encroaching on more and more land, and then gets OUR people
> killed trying to stop it all.
>

[Capt. Justice]

Why Israel's first leaders chose not to call the country 'Palestine' in
Arabic
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http://www.timesofisrael.com/leaders-grappled-over-arabic-name-for-fledgling-state/
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National archive reveals a debate on the eve of independence over
whether Arabic speakers should refer to the the new Jewish state as
"Filastin," "Sayoun" or "Eesra'il"
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By Matti Friedman April 11, 2013
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David Ben-Gurion, flanked by the members of his provisional government,
reads the Declaration of Independence in the Tel Aviv Museum Hall on May
14, 1948 (photo credit: Israel Government Press Office)
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Days before the establishment of the State of Israel in May 1948,
Zionist officials met to decide what the new country would be called in
Arabic, a document released Thursday by the state archive shows.
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The document mentions three options: Palestine, or Filastin; Zion, or
Sayoun; and Israel, or Eesra'il.
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The three officials - who included Bechor-Shalom Sheetrit, later a
prominent Cabinet minister - were working under two assumptions: That an
Arab state was about to be established alongside the Jewish one in
keeping with the UN's partition resolution the year before, and that the
Jewish state would include a large Arab minority whose feelings needed
to be taken into account.
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Part of the document on the discussion of the Arabic name for the state.
They rejected the name Palestine, they wrote, because they thought that
would be the name of the new Arab state.
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"It is likely that the Arab state that will be established in the Land
of Israel will also be called Palestine in the future, which could cause
confusion," the officials wrote.
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They rejected the name Zion, or Sayoun, seemingly because the words
"Zion" and "Zionist" already had a pejorative meaning in the Arab world.
Calling the country Zion "would cause real difficultly for the Arab
citizen in the Jewish state," the document says.
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In the end, they opted for the most straightforward option: Eesra'il, or
Israel.
The document can be found here.

[RichTravsky]

Obama's, Legion, of, Flash, Mobs, @, 7/11.nig wrote:
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> On Tue, 09 Apr 2013 21:05:58 -0600, RichTravsky

> Just who 'is' them?

Israel.

> "I will stand with 'them' (Muslims) should the political winds shift
> in an ugly direction"
> --Barock Hussien Obama
>
> Obama is turning the winds in an ugly direction.

Still pushing that lie, eh?

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/coilofrage.asp
...
Origins: The above-quoted e-mail forward reproduces passages taken
from Barack Obama's two books ? Dreams from My Father (1995) and The
Audacity of Hope ? with the presumed intent of presenting Obama as a
self-declared racist. However, these cherry-picked statements are all
presented devoid of context, and some of them are reworded from the
original (or apparently non-existent). Below we have identified and
reproduced the relevant passages in which these statements appear,
with their fuller context:
...
- I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an
ugly direction.

This statement is a rewording of a passage from page 261 of The Audacity
of Hope, in which Barack Obama spoke of the importance of not allowing
inflamed public opinion to result in innocent members of immigrant
groups being stripped of their rights, denied their due as American
citizens, or placed into confinement, as was done with Japanese-Americans
during World War II. The original contains no specific mention of
"Muslims":

In the wake of 9/11, my meetings with Arab and Pakistani Americans, for
example, have a more urgent quality, for the stories of detentions and
FBI questioning and hard stares from neighbors have shaken their sense
of security and belonging. They have been reminded that the history of
immigration in this country has a dark underbelly; they need specific
reassurances that their citizenship really means something, that America
has learned the right lessons from the Japanese internments during World
War II, and that I will stand with them should the political winds shift
in an ugly direction.


Contrast

http://www.instablogsimages.com/images/2009/04/02/bush-saudi-hand-holding-1_2M3Ps_19672.jpg

http://www.indybay.org/uploads/2003/03/11/rumsfeld-saddam.jpg

heh heh

[RichTravsky]

Obama's, Legion, of, Flash, Mobs, @, 7/11.nig wrote:
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> On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 19:56:35 -0400, "TheZ" <Th...@nospam.com> wrote:
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> >You can't steal what you legally own. The Arabs are lucky the Jews let them
> >have some of the land that is rightly theirs.
>

> Genesis 16:12
> New International Version (�1984)
> He will be a wild donkey of a man; his hand will be against everyone
> and everyone's hand against him, and he will live in hostility toward
> all his brothers."
>
> I wonder if that's where the DimocRAT Party got the idea for its logo


http://www.osjoseph.org/stjoseph/art/images/CruzJB0793Flight19XXTempSgdaFamStMaRiberaMexCty.jpg

hahahahahahahah

[RichTravsky]

Obama's, Legion, of, Flash, Mobs, @, 7/11.nig wrote:
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> On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 20:31:13 -0600, Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:

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> >On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 20:14:37 -0400, Obama's Legion of Flash Mobs @
> >7/11.nig wrote:
> >
> >>Genesis 16:12
> >>New International Version (�1984)
> >>He will be a wild donkey of a man; his hand will be against everyone
> >>and everyone's hand against him, and he will live in hostility toward
> >>all his brothers."
> >>
> >>I wonder if that's where the DimocRAT Party got the idea for its logo
> >

> >Dunno---since nothing in the Bible has evidentiary value for much of
> >anything.
>
> Your statement was made by poor choice based on purposeful ignorance ,
> not by facts or the thirst for Knowledge.

No, by wise choice based on the facts.

[plainolamerican]

On Apr 11, 7:14 pm, Obama's Legion of Flash Mobs @ 7/11.nig wrote:

> On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 19:56:35 -0400, "TheZ" <T...@nospam.com> wrote:
> >You can't steal what you legally own. The Arabs are lucky the Jews let them
> >have some of the land that is rightly theirs.
>

> Genesis 16:12
> New International Version (©1984)
> He will be a wild donkey of a man; his hand will be against everyone
> and everyone's hand against him, and he will live in hostility toward
> all his brothers."
>
> I wonder if that's where the DimocRAT Party got the idea for its logo
>
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> ><Yoorg...@Jurgis.net> wrote in message

> >news:4i0em891amab9chj4...@4ax.com...
> >> On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 12:52:23 -0400, Obama's Legion of Flash Mobs @
> >> 7/11.nig wrote:
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> >>>>The reality is Obama is no friend to any anyone and that's what makes
> >>>>it an omen of things to come.
>
> >>>Yayuh
>
> >> The reality is that Israel stole that land, is oppressive, is stealing
> >> more by encroaching on more and more land, and then gets OUR people
> >> killed trying to stop it all.

Genesis 16:12
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jewish myth to ignore.

[RichTravsky]

Obama's, Legion, of, Flash, Mobs, @, 7/11.nig wrote:
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> I know you're joking by the way you laugh

Zechariah 9:9
Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion!
Shout aloud, O daughter of Jerusalem!
Behold, your king is coming to you;
righteous and having salvation is he,
humble and mounted on a donkey,
on a colt, the foal of a donkey.

John 12:14-15
14 And Jesus found a young donkey and sat on it, just as it is written,

15 "Fear not, daughter of Zion;
behold, your king is coming,
sitting on a donkey's colt!"


Elephants? Not with the piles of crap they leave behind.

[RichTravsky]

Obama's, Legion, of, Flash, Mobs, @, 7/11.nig wrote:
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> When has Islam not been at war with Jews, Christians or the West?
>
> The wild ass of Islam is not the religion of peace, it's the Infidel
> of false religion and the Whore of Babylon.
>
> All facts

There are no facts for either.

[Isky]

On 4/14/2013 5:18 AM, Kirby Grant wrote:
>> I agree with you about 'religion'...I'm into the Spirit, not the
>> >religion...the redemption part I got too
> Not if you go around habitually quoting from the so-called "bible".

You could at least be respectful enough to capitalize the title, you
toxic asshat.

[Isky]

On 4/13/2013 5:18 PM, Kirby Grant wrote:
> I don't need any religion to instruct me about Omneity - any person can
> learn about that just by being awake. But I doubt that it is even possible
> for you to understand such things. Maybe sometime before you pass from this
> plane you will learn about redemption. But maybe not.

The casual hubris you evidence in judging the awareness and capacities
of others reminds us that in no instance are you to be trusted,
believed, or granted the slightest psychological credibility..

[Isky]

On 4/12/2013 8:03 PM, Kirby Grant wrote:
> You are certainly outstanding evidence of someone who sneers at
> what it says.

You are someone with a frighteningly amoral nature and no demonstrable
capacity for compassion or reason.

[Isky]

On 4/19/2013 3:31 PM, Kirby Grant wrote:

> That word is not a proper noun.

That deflection is not acceptable, even to simple minded folk like
yourself, asshat.

[Isky]

On 4/19/2013 3:32 PM, Kirby Grant wrote:
> On 19-Apr-2013, Isky <t...@valid.net> wrote:
>

> Then what you are saying is that I'm absolutely on target

If self-immolation is your aim, you have dialed the MOA to a T.

[Isky]

On 4/19/2013 3:33 PM, Kirby Grant wrote:
> On 19-Apr-2013, Isky <t...@valid.net> wrote:
>

> I live by a code and within that code I am certainly your moral superior.
>
You are a soulless and summarily evil entity and you are not the moral
superior of any sentient being.

[RichTravsky]

CB wrote:
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> On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 21:27:26 -0600, RichTravsky

> The ass sure as become a beast of burden onto the American people

Duhbya's is gone. The burden is being lifted.

Meanwhile, you're welcome for the bible lesson.

> >Elephants? Not with the piles of crap they leave behind.
>

> Fertilizer for the ignorant

[RichTravsky]

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-57580703/hagel-announces-new-u.s-arms-sales-to-israel-amid-fears-over-possible-war-with-iran/

JERUSALEM Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel announced new U.S. arms
sales to Israel on Monday, amid fears of war over Iran's alleged
nuclear weapons program.

"The Obama administration has made not just maintaining, but enhancing
and improving Israel's qualitative military edge a top priority,"
Hagel said in Tel Aviv, after meeting Israeli Defense Minister Moshe
Ya'alon.

The weapons include missiles and radar systems for fighter jets and
re-fueling planes, which could be used in any Israeli pre-emptive
strike on Iran's nuclear facilities. Israel sees Iran's nuclear
program as a threat to its existence and it has warned that if
international sanctions fail, it might take military action on its own
against the Islamic Republic.

Hagel, asked by a reporter if that would be an advisable move, said
that "calculation has to be made by" Israel.

"Israel is a sovereign nation; every sovereign nation has a right to
defend itself," said the U.S. defense chief.

That was a softer approach than the U.S. has taken in the recent past,
when the Obama administration has urged Israel to give diplomacy more
time.

The Iran issue created tension between President Obama and his Israeli
counterpart Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu last year, but since his
visit here in March, he and other administration officials have gone
out of their way to express unwavering support for Israel's security.
Hagel noted that the arms sales will give Israel air superiority in
the region and increase its long-range capabilities.

[RichTravsky]

CB wrote:

> The following passage describes the *donkey* like what you said
>
> From The Journey with Jesus: Notes to Myself
> By Dan Clendenin
> ...
> Zechariah's poetry reminds us that Yahweh's global interests transcend
> national self-interests. He warns against baptizing national ideology
> with a divine endorsement. God longs to "break the battle bow" and
> proclaim "peace to the nations."
>
> World flags.
>
> In 1805 Alexis de Tocqueville landed on the shores of
> Newport, Rhode Island and began his prescient travelogue that was
> eventually published as Democracy in America (1835, 1840). To
> commemorate that bicentennial, in 2005 the Atlantic Monthly
> commissioned the French intellectual Benard-Henri Lévy to travel
> extensively in America and report his findings. When Lévy visited
> Willow Creek megachurch near Chicago, he recorded his impressions of
> how Americans portrayed the divine: "a God without mystery; a good-guy
> God; almost a human being, a good American" (American Vertigo:
> Traveling America in the Footsteps of Tocqueville, 2006). This Fourth
> of July, as we celebrate our country, and read Zechariah's political
> poetry written to his own country, I worry that Lévy might be right,
> that we all too easily create God in our own, self-serving national
> image. I hope I'm wrong, and I pray that Lévy is wrong.
> ...
>
> I've thought long and hard on Zechariah 9:9 and was humbled at the
> irony. Jesus did ride on a donkey, a humble animal burdened with the
> yoke of hard work. The donkey's service to his Master is the lesson of
> service to ones neighbor. Giving to the poor is serving Jesus.
>
> Dimocrats/KKK fought against freeing slaves, never forget that. What
> service has the Democrat Party performed that's helpped the poor?
>
> Republicans offer to teach the poor how to fish, Dims just give them a
> daily fish knowing they'll be back tomorrow for another.
>
> Jesus will return soon. Not on a donkey and not as savior. He'll come
> as King, Judge and with cleansing fire.

>
> >> >
> >> >John 12:14-15
> >> >14 And Jesus found a young donkey and sat on it, just as it is written,
>

> Are you in service for Jesus?

>
> >> >
> >> >15 "Fear not, daughter of Zion;
> >> >behold, your king is coming,
> >> >sitting on a donkey's colt!"
> >>
> >> The ass sure as become a beast of burden onto the American people
> >
> >Duhbya's is gone. The burden is being lifted.
> >
> >Meanwhile, you're welcome for the bible lesson.
>

> Your understanding is that of a goat. The donkey is a humble animal
> willing to carry a heavy load in the service of his Master Jesus, are
> you?
>
> What humble service has the Party of the donkey done in Jesus name?
>
> During the DNC convention three votes were cast and the dye was set on
> the course of their agenda without God and without supporting Israel.
>
> That vote reminded me of Matthew 26:34
>
> "I tell you the truth," Jesus answered, "this very night, before the
> rooster crows, you will disown me three times."
>
> Where is the humble service, donkey boi?
>
> Jesus tells me it's best not cast pearls before swine because swine
> will never appreciate pearls...of wisdom.

As CB admits I'm right.

Zechariah 9:9
Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion!
Shout aloud, O daughter of Jerusalem!
Behold, your king is coming to you;
righteous and having salvation is he,
humble and mounted on a donkey,
on a colt, the foal of a donkey.

John 12:14-15
14 And Jesus found a young donkey and sat on it, just as it is written,

15 "Fear not, daughter of Zion;
behold, your king is coming,
sitting on a donkey's colt!"

You're welcome again for the bible lesson.

[Kirby Grant]

On 24-Apr-2013, Obama's Legion of Flash Mobs @ 7/11.nig wrote:

> On Tue, 23 Apr 2013 22:12:05 -0600, RichTravsky
> <traRvE...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
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> If only the DNC's convention vote last summer to include God, Israel
> and Jerusalem into their platform passed you might have a point but
> your Party voted to leave God out, and voted not to support the birth
> place of Jesus as the capital of Israel.
>

You stupid dolt. To be a birthplace there would actually have to be a person
involved. There wasn't. It is fiction. A fable. There was no such person.
How many times were you dropped on your head to make you think otherwise?
You have no reliable historical proof that such a person existed.

[RichTravsky]

Obama's, Legion, of, Flash, Mobs, @, 7/11.nig wrote:
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> On Tue, 23 Apr 2013 22:12:05 -0600, RichTravsky

> If only the DNC's convention vote last summer to include God, Israel
> and Jerusalem into their platform passed you might have a point but
> your Party voted to leave God out, and voted not to support the birth
> place of Jesus as the capital of Israel.
>

> The donkey is a burdensome animal, one of service to it's Master. Too
> bad the Democrat Party dropped it from its logo a few years ago.
>
> Your Party enslaves the poor to serve Caesar and denied Jesus
> three times at the Charlotte convention
>
> http://biblez.com/search.php?q=rooster+crows+three+times
>
> CB

[RichTravsky]

Obama's, Legion, of, Flash, Mobs, @, 7/11.nig wrote:
>

> Obama arms both Egypt and Israel, enemies of each other. Kinda like
> Magnus and Bush 41 did for Iran and Iraq, huh?...not hardly

You tell us

http://www.indybay.org/uploads/2003/03/11/rumsfeld-saddam.jpg

[RichTravsky]

Obama's, Legion, of, Flash, Mobs, @, 7/11.nig wrote:
>

> There 'is' no moral equivalence between Goodness and Evil

So you admit Bonzo was evil...

[RichTravsky]

Obama's, Legion, of, Flash, Mobs, @, 7/11.nig wrote:
>

> On Sat, 27 Apr 2013 00:14:10 -0600, RichTravsky

> >> >> commissioned the French intellectual Benard-Henri L�vy to travel
> >> >> extensively in America and report his findings. When L�vy visited

> >> >> Willow Creek megachurch near Chicago, he recorded his impressions of
> >> >> how Americans portrayed the divine: "a God without mystery; a good-guy
> >> >> God; almost a human being, a good American" (American Vertigo:
> >> >> Traveling America in the Footsteps of Tocqueville, 2006). This Fourth
> >> >> of July, as we celebrate our country, and read Zechariah's political

> >> >> poetry written to his own country, I worry that L�vy might be right,

> >> >> that we all too easily create God in our own, self-serving national

> >> >> image. I hope I'm wrong, and I pray that L�vy is wrong.

You'll notice which party is the party of diversity and which isn't...

[Dänk 42Ø]

On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 22:23:48 -0600, RichTravsky quacked:

> So you admit Bonzo was evil...

Hitler was evil, so Stalin is good? This seems to be the staple argument
of leftists: that because one evil exists in the world, rival evils are
somehow justified, even desirable.

By "Bonzo," I assume you refer to Ronald Reagan, the Satanic Father of
all the Antichrists of the modern American left.

Not that I believe Reagan was "evil" myself; he was of above-average
intelligence, charming, and had a successful career; but by the time he
became president he was close to being a doddering old fool, albeit a
doddering old fool with a clever staff who could (usually) keep him out
of trouble. But senility is not the same as evil. The Judeo-Christian
definition of evil is knowing that what one is doing is wrong, and doing
it anyway (the story of Adam and Eve and the apple). Reagan was too
senile to understand what he was doing, much less knew it was wrong, and
he really wasn't doing anything at all, since it was his evil corrupt
corporate puppetmasters pulling his strings.

In contrast, Jimmy Carter was and still is a brilliant man (a former
nuclear engineer), and is probably THE most ethical president in American
history. Unfortunately, the traits of ethics and honesty (and especially
intelligence) are almost the exact opposites of the "leadership" skills
Americans demand. Carter's error was to tell Americans the truth, in a
time they desperately wanted to be lied to. Reagan told Americans what
they wanted to hear, and his error was being so senile as to actually
believe it himself!

My own attitudes towards Reagan are somewhat ambivalent. I remember both
him and Jimmy Carter, and remember skyrocketing inflation, gas rationing,
and "malaise" when I was in elementary school during his administration,
and a fairly pleasant and optimistic life during junior/high school under
"fascist" Ronald Reagan. Perhaps this is because unlike your mama who
resented the fascist cuts in the food stamp budget -- diverting your
personal ration to feed her crack habit -- my mom and dad WORKED to feed
their children.

In retrospect, the nuclear war that Reagan's leftist opponents predicted
he would start never happened, and his administration ended with the
collapse of the socialist Soviet Union they adored so much (becoming
somewhat less noisy after guidance and funding from their progressive
Soviet overlords dried up, forcing them to get capitalist jobs to feed
their worthless asses instead of living on the Russian dole).

I visited Britain in 1987, right after graduating high school. I was
still politically naive, but I couldn't help but notice that the rhetoric
of British leftists towards Margaret Thatcher was not just similar but
IDENTICAL to that of American leftists towards Ronald Reagan! It was
like both were reading off the same script written by their Soviet
paymasters!

Another obvious similarity is that neither British or American leftists
seem to have paying jobs -- then or now -- but yet always have infinite
amounts of cash to travel to participate in the latest "spontaneous" anti-
American demonstrations, to "Occupy" something or other indefinitely,
with no jobs to report to or other obvious sources of income that would
explain how they can sit on sidewalks forever without starving to death.
Hmm...


= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
"[B]efore the breakdown of communism in the USSR, leftist types in the
West would seldom criticize that country. If prodded they would admit
that the USSR did many wrong things, but then they would try to find
excuses for the communists and begin talking about the faults of the
West. They always opposed Western military resistance to communist
aggression. Leftist types all over the world vigorously protested the
U.S. military action in Vietnam, but when the USSR invaded Afghanistan
they did nothing. ... [B]ecause of their leftist faith, they just
couldn't bear to put themselves in opposition to communism."

-- Industrial Society and Its Future

[Dänk 42Ø]

On Fri, 03 May 2013 08:34:07 -0600, Yoorghis quacked:

> On Fri, 03 May 2013 04:38:29 -0400, Obama's Legion of Flash Mobs @
> 7/11.nig wrote:
>
>>>Magnus kicked the Axis in the balls where you hand it am iron jock
>>>strap
>>
>>
>>Such wisdom
>
> Such stupidity.
>
> 'bout time for you to launch into your nutty babbling, isn't it?

Just to chime in here on the subject of American arm sales to Israel: it
should be noted that Barack Hussein Obama flirted with the ultra-left
movement when he was younger, and this group still forms one of his core
bases of support, and ultra-leftists have long supported the Palestinian
resistance in their fight against the Zionist Jewish invaders.

Without taking sides on the Israeli/Palestinian conflict, it seems
illogical to sell weapons to one side while pandering to a political
faction that supports the other side. But politics are not logical, and
Chairman Obama knows he can offend any and all of his bleating disciples
and they will continue to worship him and vote for him again in 2016 and
beyond.

Ultimately, Obama cares much more about the money he receives from the
wealthy non-existent Jewish lobby than he cares about the opinions of
smelly unemployed Occupytard peasants who will vote for him anyway.
Nothing matters less in politics than a special interest group whose
support can be taken for granted.

As for selling weapons to the new Islamofascist government of Egypt, this
decision is likely supported by ultra-leftists (because Islam is such a
religion of peace and tolerance), and it will surely come back to haunt
us after Mohamed Morsi or his successors decide they have no further use
for their alliance with American infidels and turn those weapons on us.
Progress!

= = = = = = = = = = = = =

"It's got Electrolytes!"

-- Idiocracy

[Kirby Grant]

On 3-May-2013, Obama's Legion of Flash Mobs @ 7/11.nig wrote:

> On Fri, 03 May 2013 08:52:25 -0600, Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:
>
> >On Fri, 03 May 2013 04:37:50 -0400, Obama's Legion of Flash Mobs @
> >7/11.nig wrote:
> >
> >>>It isn't about color, it's about character. MLK knew that and
> >>>associated him self with the Party of freedom, accountability and the
> >>>law.
> >>
> >>That would be the Party of Lincoln and Conservatism
> >
> >Lincoln was NOT a conservative, you uneducated moron
> >
> >Lincoln fought conservatives
> >
> >Lincoln (and the GOP) were progressives (from the north)
>
> Do you really want me to post a lecture on who Progressives sought to
> make Black folk 2/3 human while Christians sought to include everyone
> as created equal?
>
> Don't make me to it...

Churches tried to use the so-called "bible" to defend slavery.

Any lecture you might post would probably be a lie - conservatives are known
to be liars and they try to perpetuate lies.

[RichTravsky]

CB wrote:
>
> On Fri, 03 May 2013 08:52:25 -0600, Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:
>
> >On Fri, 03 May 2013 04:37:50 -0400, Obama's Legion of Flash Mobs @
> >7/11.nig wrote:
> >
> >>>It isn't about color, it's about character. MLK knew that and
> >>>associated him self with the Party of freedom, accountability and the
> >>>law.
> >>
> >>That would be the Party of Lincoln and Conservatism
> >
> >Lincoln was NOT a conservative, you uneducated moron
> >
> >Lincoln fought conservatives
> >
> >Lincoln (and the GOP) were progressives (from the north)
>
> Do you really want me to post a lecture on who Progressives sought to
> make Black folk 2/3 human while Christians sought to include everyone
> as created equal?
>
> Don't make me to it...

Christians did no such thing. Christians loave slaves AS slaves. They
exploited
cultures everywhere they went in the world.

The Constitution itself set it at THREE FIFTHS of a person.

RT

[RichTravsky]

CB wrote:
> On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 22:23:48 -0600, RichTravsky

> Magnus kicked the Axis in the balls where you hand it am iron jock
> strap

The Axis was in the 1940s.

[RichTravsky]

CB wrote:
>
> On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 22:24:46 -0600, RichTravsky

> >> >> >> commissioned the French intellectual Benard-Henri Lévy to travel
> >> >> >> extensively in America and report his findings. When Lévy visited

> >> >> >> Willow Creek megachurch near Chicago, he recorded his impressions of
> >> >> >> how Americans portrayed the divine: "a God without mystery; a good-guy
> >> >> >> God; almost a human being, a good American" (American Vertigo:
> >> >> >> Traveling America in the Footsteps of Tocqueville, 2006). This Fourth
> >> >> >> of July, as we celebrate our country, and read Zechariah's political

> >> >> >> poetry written to his own country, I worry that Lévy might be right,

> >> >> >> that we all too easily create God in our own, self-serving national

> >> >> >> image. I hope I'm wrong, and I pray that Lévy is wrong.

> Diversity is nothing compared the character of the Party.

Diversity is a reflection of the character of the party.

> Dims use multicultural political correctness to divide people, pit
> them against each other and promoted hatred for political gain.

Is that why Jews support dems?

> You've won the ignorant vote by breeding two generations of inner city
> feral flash mobbing Legion. ACORN/SEIU 'is' Obama's civilian on call
> army...better known as his base.

You obviously have no understanding of biology.

> In June George Zimmerman goes on trial. As hot as the gun issue is, I
> have no doubt that the community organizer is staging an astro-turf
> Legion of Biblical proportion to stir up a hornets nest.

>
> It isn't about color, it's about character. MLK knew that and

It's about color and has been sincve the early 1800s. You're lying AGAIN.

http://www.ferris.edu/news/jimcrow/caricature/
...
The etymology of nigger is often traced to the Latin niger, meaning
black. The Latin niger became the noun negro (black person) in English,
and simply the color black in Spanish and Portuguese. In Early Modern
French niger became negre and, later, negress (black woman) was clearly
a part of lexical history. One can compare to negre the derogatory
nigger and earlier English variants such as negar, neegar, neger, and
niggor which developed into a parallel lexico-semantic reality in
English. It is likely that nigger is a phonetic spelling of the white
Southern mispronunciation of Negro. Whatever its origins, by the early
1800s it was firmly established as a denigrative epithet. Almost two
centuries later, it remains a chief symbol of white racism.
...

> associated him self with the Party of freedom, accountability and the
> law.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alveda_King
...
According to Fox News, Alveda King has "long argued" that Martin Luther
King Jr. was a Republican. In contradiction to King's statement, however,
University of Cambridge historian David Garrow stated in a Salon profile
of Alveda King regarding Martin Luther King: "King was not only not a
Republican, he was well to the left of the Democratic Party of the 1960s
[....] It's also well-documented that Dr. King was a strong supporter of
Planned Parenthood." Also, after the Republicans nominated Barry
Goldwater (who voted against the Civil Rights Act) and Strom Thurmond
became a Republican, Dr. King actively campaigned against Goldwater.
...


"The more negroes who register as Democrats in the South, the sooner the
Negrophobe Whites will quit the Democrats and become Republicans. That's
where the votes are. Without that prodding from the blacks, the Whites
will backslide into their old comfortable arrangement with the local
Democrats." - Kevin Phillips, Nixon political strategist, on the
republicon "Southern Strategy"

[1st Century Apostolic Traditionalist]

"Obama's Legion of Flash Mobs @ 7/11.nig" wrote in message news

>Churches tried to use the so-called "bible" to defend slavery.

The Bible does not forbid slavery, neither does the NT.
God allowed His chosen race the Jews to keep slaves.

Some brethren of Christ were slave owners and their slaves were told to work
even harder for them as they were also brethren of Christ.
Thus if they were pleasing their masters, they were pleasing Christ.

Jeff...

[Kirby Grant]

On 3-May-2013, Obama's Legion of Flash Mobs @ 7/11.nig wrote:

> On Fri, 3 May 2013 23:02:13 GMT, "Kirby Grant" <KGr...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >On 3-May-2013, Obama's Legion of Flash Mobs @ 7/11.nig wrote:
> >
> >> On Fri, 03 May 2013 08:52:25 -0600, Yoor...@Jurgis.net wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Fri, 03 May 2013 04:37:50 -0400, Obama's Legion of Flash Mobs @
> >> >7/11.nig wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>>It isn't about color, it's about character. MLK knew that and
> >> >>>associated him self with the Party of freedom, accountability and
> >> >>>the
> >> >>>law.
> >> >>
> >> >>That would be the Party of Lincoln and Conservatism
> >> >
> >> >Lincoln was NOT a conservative, you uneducated moron
> >> >
> >> >Lincoln fought conservatives
> >> >
> >> >Lincoln (and the GOP) were progressives (from the north)
> >>
> >> Do you really want me to post a lecture on who Progressives sought to
> >> make Black folk 2/3 human while Christians sought to include everyone
> >> as created equal?
> >>
> >> Don't make me to it...
> >
> >Churches tried to use the so-called "bible" to defend slavery.
>
>

> Southern DimocRAT/KKK churches that welcomed Margaret Sanger to speak
> to the congregation??

>
> >
> >Any lecture you might post would probably be a lie - conservatives are
> >known
> >to be liars and they try to perpetuate lies.
>

> "I think you can be an honest person and lie about any number of
> things"
> --Dan Rather
> http://archive.mrc.org/audiobias/vidclips/2005/nq2005/rather051501.mp3
> Oboobuh's ethic
>
> You're a clown, Kirby

That is probably a whole lot better than being an uneducated drunk sot whose
mother can't tell you who your father was.

[Kirby Grant]

On 4-May-2013, "1st Century Apostolic Traditionalist"

Of course all of that stuff was written in that book by humans who didn't
check with god to get approval for such nonsense.

[1st Century Apostolic Traditionalist]

"Obama's Legion of Flash Mobs @ 7/11.nig" wrote in message

>Forgive me if I don't take your word, prove it with His Word and a URL

"5 Slaves, obey your earthly masters with proper respect. Be as sincere as
you are when you obey Christ. 6 Don't obey them only while you're being
watched, as if you merely wanted to please people. But obey like slaves who
belong to Christ, who have a deep desire to do what God wants them to do. 7
Serve eagerly as if you were serving your heavenly master and not merely
serving human masters. 8 You know that your heavenly master will reward all
of us for whatever good we do, whether we're slaves or free people.

9 Masters, treat your slaves with respect. Don't threaten a slave. You know
that there is one master in heaven who has authority over both of you, and
he doesn't play favourites. "
Ephesians 6:5-9 (GW)


>Slavery is wrong in serving anyone.

Not according to 1st Century Christian Scripture teaching.
Slaves were allowed and not forbidden to Christians, neither was it wrong to
use them.

>Servitude (not indentured) toward
>God and His creation is righteous.

And men in power in governments.
"1 Every person should obey the government in power. No government would
exist if it hadn't been established by God. The governments which exist have
been put in place by God. 2 Therefore, whoever resists the government
opposes what God has established. Those who resist will bring punishment on
themselves."
Romans 13:1-2 (GW)

Jeff...

[Zorgan]

Some Bible Thumper said:
> "Obama's Legion of Flash Mobs @ 7/11.nig" wrote in message
> On Sat, 4 May 2013 07:48:54 +0100, "1st Century Apostolic
>

And don't forget the real reason why Jesus had many followers.

Or did that great Ass idea fly right over your head?

"And Jesus, when he had found a young ass, sat thereon; as it is
written"

Hmmm? "young ass"? Eh wot?

Kind of sounds like Jerry Lee Lewis and that 13 year-old wife of his,
if you ask me.

That made him big in Britain.

[FirstPost]

On Sun, 5 May 2013 12:31:04 -0700 (PDT), Zorgan
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redirected
follow ups to alt.religion.scientology.xenu,
alt.christnet.second-coming.real-soon-now,
alt.religion.christian.last-days like the typical Canuck cocksucking
coward and lied through their teeth:

Totally irrelevant bullshit because the typically stupid Canadian
can't argue a real topic.
Fucking worthless idiot troll.
But then what else can be expected from stupid assed retarded
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[RichTravsky]

[RichTravsky]

CBoob wrote:

> You're another clown
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUVONzyPRhU

You're another low information trailer park hillbilly.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-Fifths_Compromise

The Three-Fifths Compromise was a compromise between Southern and
Northern states reached during the Philadelphia Convention of 1787
in which three-fifths of the enumerated population of slaves would
be counted for representation purposes regarding both the
distribution of taxes and the apportionment of the members of the
United States House of Representatives. It was proposed by
delegates James Wilson and Roger Sherman.
...

[RichTravsky]

Obama's, Legion, of, Flash, Mobs, @, 7/11.nig wrote:
>

> The only country I see reducing arms is the US. How many ships does

Prove it.

> our Navy have today compared to when Magnus was President?

Who?

> Afghanistan is falling to Obama's new friends in the Muslim
> Brotherhood!

Bonzo's Muslim Brotherhood

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-PRShz1eVrps/Ti26m5_Vj_I/AAAAAAAAwsA/1NuM0R6iu80/s1600/reagan-taliban.jpg

> Russia and China fight proxy wars against the US arming Iran, Syria
> and their own proxies.
>
> The Axis is stronger than ever because the media doesn't report on how
> big China's Navy is getting, nor how many shipments of arms Russia
> sends to our enemies in the axis.

The Axis was in WW2.