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Sep 12, 2008, 2:06:14 AM9/12/08
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Sarah Palin Would Allow Israel To Drag Us Into War With Iran.


In her interview last night with Charles Gibson, Sarah Palin clearly
showed that she would not oppose Israel if it decided to attack Iran,
and thereby drag the United States into yet another war . . . even a
likely World War III.

Here are the exact words, as reported by Fox News at
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/09/11/raw-data-palins-interview-with-abc-news/#comment-659260

GIBSON: Let me turn to Iran. Do you consider a nuclear Iran to be an
existential threat to Israel?

PALIN: I believe that under the leadership of Ahmadinejad, nuclear
weapons in the hands of his government are extremely dangerous to
everyone on this globe, yes.

GIBSON: So, what should we do about a nuclear Iran?

PALIN: We have got to make sure these weapons of mass destruction,
that nuclear weapons are not given to those hands of Ahmadinejad, not
that he would use them, but that he would allow terrorists to be able
to use them. So we have got to put the pressure on Iran.

GIBSON: What if Israel decided it felt threatened and need to take out
the Iranian nuclear facilities?

PALIN: Well, first, we are friends of Israel, and I don’t think that
we should second guess the measures that Israel has to take to defend
themselves, and for their security.

GIBSON: So if we didn’t second guess it and if they decided they
needed to do it, because Iran was an existential threat, we would be
cooperative or agree with that?

PALIN: I don’t think we can second guess what Israel has to do to
secure its nation.

GIBSON: So if it felt necessary, if it felt the need to defend itself
by taking out Iranian nuclear facilities, that would be all right?

PALIN: We cannot second guess the steps that Israel has to take to
defend itself.

###

"We cannot second guess the steps that Israel has to take to defend
itself."


NOTE: She gave the same answer three times to three slightly different
versions of the question, without actually agreeing to the precise
words which were asked. By avoiding the exact question, she was able
to reframe the question and provide a less chilling, more reasonable-
sounding answer.

But sadly, the truth is that she would allow -- without "second
guessing" -- Israel to drag us into a likely World War III, without
even trying to stop it.

What she should have said is, "No."

We are the United States of America. The state of Israel is basically
our child, because we created it in 1948 and we have kept it alive
since then. Without us, Israel would not exist as a Jewish state
today. Because of this, we are morally responsible for everything
Israel ever does wrong in the world. Sometimes it seems like having a
juvenile delinquent child. We cannot permit our delinquent child to
attack a country and start a war without first receiving our explicit
consent. An attack by Israel is an attack by the United States, and it
would surely justify any warlike response against us that Iran and its
friends might want to launch.

May God help us all.

Rev. Bill McGinnis
http://www.loveallpeople.org

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On Sep 12, 2:06 am, explorerthedog <exp1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Sarah Palin Would Allow Israel To Drag Us Into War With Iran.
>
> In her interview last night with Charles Gibson, Sarah Palin clearly
> showed that she would not oppose Israel if it decided to attack Iran,
> and thereby drag the United States into yet another war . . . even a
> likely World War III.
>
> Here are the exact words, as reported by Fox News athttp://elections.foxnews.com/2008/09/11/raw-data-palins-interview-wit...

I Knew Sarah Palin was special. This interview reinforces her
strength. She is a Queen Esther, so willing to stand for Zion. So
willing to preserve the place where Messiah will return to this earth
to save all mankind. It is sad though that it took a woman to lead
America and demonstrate the strength of character and courage that God
established for the men in His social order. Wouldn't it be a great
country if all men had this kind of sack?

Adam Whyte-Settlar

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LOL
I'm not sure if this is a spoof but even if it isn't it's still funny.


NOMOREWARFORISRAEL

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Matthews Suggests AIPAC Scripted Palin's Rote Answer on Israel

http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/09/matthews-suggests-aipac-scripted-palins-rote-answer-on-israel.html

Sarah Palin gave a scary answer to Charlie Gibson on Israel, saying
she supported Israel's prerogative to attack Iran, and under his
questioning said in a rote way, three times, that the U.S. has no
right to "second guess" Israel's decision. Chris Matthews seemed angry
about this tonight on Hardball, questioning whether it was in the
national interest. Then asked whether AIPAC had drafted her answer.
Pat Buchanan pointed out that the answer goes against even Bush's
foreign policy and that McCain is in the thrall of Randy Scheunemann,
a neoconservative and former "agent" for Georgia. Earlier Todd Harris,
a Republican operative, told Matthews he felt it would be a good thing
if Netanyahu becomes prime minister of Israel.

Scary Republicans. If Harris is against the two-state solution, why is
he given a platform on MSNBC? Or why isn't he called out? Though
praise the lord, Matthews, who knows about the Israel lobby, is
finally pointing fingers. When will he talk about Palin's special
meeting with AIPAC in St. Paul the day before she was nominated?


Additional at the following URL:

http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=95713

Palin leaves open option of war with Russia

http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=95679

Report: '60 Minutes' Cut Ahmadinejad's Statement, 'Solution Is
Democracy' in Israel/Palestine

http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/09/report-60-minutes-cut-ahmadinejads-statement-solution-is-democracy-in-israelpalestine.html


Here is a tiny URL for the above one:


http://tinyurl.com/6faepr

And None Dare Call It Treason—McCain Advisor's Georgia Connection:

http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=94474

VIDEO - 9/11 and Wrong Policy, what the 9/11 Commission Report did to
us. Tell politicians to stop making a mockery of 9/11 and putting our
lives at risk.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SB4V1sDjyI&feature=PlayList&p=F5026117E154555E&index=0&playnext=1

Here is a tiny URL for the above one:

http://tinyurl.com/66o2qy


On Sep 11, 11:06 pm, explorerthedog <exp1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Sarah Palin Would Allow Israel To Drag Us Into War With Iran.
>
> In her interview last night with Charles Gibson, Sarah Palin clearly
> showed that she would not oppose Israel if it decided to attack Iran,
> and thereby drag the United States into yet another war . . . even a
> likely World War III.
>

> Here are the exact words, as reported by Fox News athttp://elections.foxnews.com/2008/09/11/raw-data-palins-interview-wit...

NOMOREWARFORISRAEL

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Sep 12, 2008, 1:57:28 PM9/12/08
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http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/sep/04/israel-of-the-caucasus/

Thursday, September 4, 2008
COMMENTARY: Israel of the Caucasus?
Arnaud de Borchgrave
COMMENTARY:

NATO guarantees that an attack against one member country is an attack
against all are no longer what they used to be. Had Georgia been
inside NATO, a number of European countries would no longer be willing
to consider it an attack against their own soil.

For Russia, the geopolitical stars were in perfect alignment. The U.S.
was badly overstretched and had no plausible way to talk tough without
coming across as empty rhetoric. American resources have been drained
by the Iraq and Afghan wars, and the war on terror. The European Union
is still a military dwarf that swings no weight in the Kremlin. And
the ineptitude of Georgia's leadership gave Russian leaders a huge new
window of opportunity.

Georgian President Mikhail Saakashvili evidently thought the U.S.
would come to his side militarily if Russian troops pushed him back
into Georgia after ordering an attack last Aug. 8 on the breakaway
province of South Ossetia. And when his forces were mauled by Russia's
counterattack, bitter disappointment turned to anger. Along with
Abkhazia, Georgia lost two provinces.

Georgia also had a special relationship with Israel that was mostly
under the radar. Georgia's Defense Minister Davit Kezerashvili is a
former Israeli who moved things along by facilitating Israeli arms
sales with U.S. aid. "We are now in a fight against the great Russia,"
he was quoted as saying, "and our hope is to receive assistance from
the White House because Georgia cannot survive on its own."

The Jerusalem Post on Aug. 12 reported, "Georgian Prime Minister
Vladimir Gurgenidze made a special call to Israel Tuesday morning to
receive a blessing from one of the Haredi community's most important
rabbis and spiritual leaders, Rabbi Aaron Leib Steinman. "I want him
to pray for us and our state," he was quoted.

Israel began selling arms to Georgia seven years ago. U.S. grants
facilitated these purchases. From Israel came former minister and
former mayor of Tel Aviv Roni Milo, representing Elbit Systems, and
his brother Shlomo, former director-general of Military Industries.
Israeli UAV spy drones, made by Elbit Maarahot Systems, conducted
recon flights over southern Russia, as well as into nearby Iran.

In a secret agreement between Israel and Georgia, two military
airfields in southern Georgia had been earmarked for the use of
Israeli fighter bombers in the event of preemptive attacks against
Iranian nuclear installations. This would sharply reduce the distance
Israeli fighter bombers would have to fly to hit targets in Iran. And
to reach Georgian airstrips, the Israeli Air Force (IAF) would fly
over Turkey.

At a Moscow news conference, Gen. Anatoly Nogovitsyn, Russia's deputy
chief of staff, said the extent of Israeli aid to Georgia included,
"eight types of military vehicles, explosives, landmines and special
explosives for clearing minefields." Estimated numbers of Israeli
trainers attached to the Georgian army range from 100 to 1,000. There
were also 110 U.S. military personnel on training assignments in
Georgia. Last July 2,000 U.S. troops were flown in for "Immediate
Response 2008," a joint exercise with Georgian forces.

Details of Israel's involvement were largely ignored by Israeli media
lest they be interpreted as another blow to Israel's legendary
military prowess, which took a bad hit in the Lebanese war against
Hezbollah two years ago. Georgia's top diplomat in Tel Aviv complained
about Israel's "lackluster" response to his country's military
predicament, and called for "diplomatic pressure on Moscow." According
to the Jerusalem Post, the Georgian was told "the address for that
type of pressure is Washington."

The daily Haaretz reported Georgian Minister Temur Yakobashvili - who
is Jewish, the newspaper said - told Israeli Army radio that "Israel
should be proud of its military, which trained Georgian soldiers"
because he explained rather implausibly, "a small group of our
soldiers were able to wipe out an entire Russian military division,
thanks to Israeli training."

The Tel Aviv-Tbilisi military axis was agreed at the highest levels
with the approval of the Bush administration. The official liaison
between the two entities was Reserve Brig. Gen. Gal Hirsch, who
commanded Israeli forces on the Lebanese border in July 2006. He
resigned from the army after the Winograd commission flayed Israel's
conduct of its Second Lebanon War.

That Russia assessed these Israeli training missions as U.S.-approved
is a given. The U.S. was also handicapped by a shortage of spy-in-the-
sky satellite capability, already overextended by the Iraq and Afghan
wars. Neither U.S. nor Georgian intelligence knew Russian forces were
ready with an immediate and massive response to the Georgian attack
Moscow knew was coming. Russian double agents ostensibly working for
Georgia most probably egged on the military fantasies of the impetuous
President Saakashvili's "surprise attack" plans.

Mr. Saakashvili was convinced that by sending 2,000 of his soldiers to
serve in Iraq (that were immediately flown home by the U.S. when
Russia launched a massive counterattack into Georgia), he would be
rewarded for his loyalty. He could not believe Mr. Bush, a personal
friend, would leave him in the lurch. Georgia, as Mr. Saakashvili saw
his country's role, was "Israel of the Caucasus."

The Tel Aviv-Tbilisi military axis appears to have been cemented at
the highest levels, according to YNet, the Israeli electronic daily.
But whether the IAF can still count on those air bases to launch
bombing missions against Iran's nuke facilities is now in doubt.

Iran comes out ahead in the wake of the Georgian crisis. Neither
Russia nor China is willing to respond to a Western request for more
and tougher sanctions against the mullahs. Iran's European trading
partners are also loath to squeeze Iran. The Russian-built, 1,000-
megawatt Iranian reactor in Bushehr is scheduled to go on line early
next year.

A combination of Vladimir Putin and oil has put Russia back on the
geopolitical map of the world. Moscow's oil and gas revenue this year
is projected at $201 billion, a 13-fold increase since Mr. Putin
succeeded Boris Yeltsin eight years ago.

The Bush administration's global democracy crusade, as seen by the men
in the Kremlin, and not an insignificant number of friends, is code
for imperial hubris. The Putin-Medvedev tandem's response is a new
five-point doctrine that told the U.S. to butt out of what was once
the Soviet empire, not only former Soviet republics, but also former
satellites and client states.

Only superannuated cold warriors saw a rebirth of the Cold War's
Brezhnev Doctrine, or the right to intervene in the internal affairs
of other "socialist states," e.g., the 1968 invasion of
Czechoslovakia. But it does mean the Russian bear cannot be baited
with impunity - a la Georgia.

Arnaud de Borchgrave is editor at large for The Washington Times and
for United Press International.


Additional at the following URL:

http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=95096


On Sep 12, 10:53 am, NOMOREWARFORISRAEL
<NOMOREWAR_FORISR...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> http://NEOCONZIONISTTHREAT.COM
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------­-----------------


>
> Matthews Suggests AIPAC Scripted Palin's Rote Answer on Israel
>

> http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/09/matthews-suggests-aipac...


>
> Sarah Palin gave a scary answer to Charlie Gibson on Israel, saying
> she supported Israel's prerogative to attack Iran, and under his
> questioning said in a rote way, three times, that the U.S. has no
> right to "second guess" Israel's decision. Chris Matthews seemed angry
> about this tonight on Hardball, questioning whether it was in the
> national interest. Then asked whether AIPAC had drafted her answer.
> Pat Buchanan pointed out that the answer goes against even Bush's
> foreign policy and that McCain is in the thrall of Randy Scheunemann,
> a neoconservative and former "agent" for Georgia. Earlier Todd Harris,
> a Republican operative, told Matthews he felt it would be a good thing
> if Netanyahu becomes prime minister of Israel.
>
> Scary Republicans. If Harris is against the two-state solution, why is
> he given a platform on MSNBC? Or why isn't he called out? Though
> praise the lord, Matthews, who knows about the Israel lobby, is
> finally pointing fingers. When will he talk about Palin's special
> meeting with AIPAC in St. Paul the day before she was nominated?
>
> Additional at the following URL:
>
> http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=95713
>
> Palin leaves open option of war with Russia
>
> http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=95679
>
> Report: '60 Minutes' Cut Ahmadinejad's Statement, 'Solution Is
> Democracy' in Israel/Palestine
>

> http://www.philipweiss.org/mondoweiss/2008/09/report-60-minutes-cut-a...


>
> Here is a tiny URL for the above one:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/6faepr
>
> And None Dare Call It Treason—McCain Advisor's Georgia Connection:
>
> http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=94474
>
> VIDEO - 9/11 and Wrong Policy, what the 9/11 Commission Report did to
> us. Tell politicians to stop making a mockery of 9/11 and putting our
> lives at risk.
>

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SB4V1sDjyI&feature=PlayList&p=F502611...

> > Rev. Bill McGinnishttp://www.loveallpeople.org- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

syeda...@gmail.com

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On Sep 12, 11:06 am, explorerthedog <exp1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Sarah Palin Would Allow Israel To Drag Us Into War With Iran.
>
> In her interview last night with Charles Gibson, Sarah Palin clearly
> showed that she would not oppose Israel if it decided to attack Iran,
> and thereby drag the United States into yet another war . . . even a
> likely World War III.
>
> Here are the exact words, as reported by Fox News athttp://elections.foxnews.com/2008/09/11/raw-data-palins-interview-wit...

What she seems to be saying is that Israel is free to follow its
interests -- but then they should not second-guess what America might
or might not do, or for that matter what Russia might do. She is not
implying anything about Israel dragging America into another World
War. She seems to be saying, Go ahead, Israel, you decide your policy
and America will decide its policy. Sounds good to me. Reminds me of
what General George Washington said about "entangling alliances". I
keep forgetting -- she's just a housewife.

NOMOREWARFORISRAEL

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Sep 13, 2008, 1:17:44 PM9/13/08
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Republicans Say Palin's Israeli Flag Says It All
Israel National News ^ | Sept. 2, 2008 | Tzvi Ben Gedalyahu

(IsraelNN.com) Republican vice presidential candidate Governor Sarah
Palin sports an Israeli flag in her lapel and displays an Israel flag
in her office window despite the tiny Jewish population in her state.
Republicans say "that says it all" concerning what they charge is
Democratic propaganda that she once backed Pat Buchanan, whose name is
anathema to most Jews.

Florida Democratic Congressman Robert Wexler of Florida came out
swinging at Republican presidential candidate Senator John McCain
immediately after he named Gov. Palin as her running mate. He accused
her of backing 'Nazi sympathizer" Pat Buchanan in a previous election
and said that Sen. McCain's choice was a "direct affront to all Jewish
Americans."

"It's propaganda invented by the Democrats, and it is unfortunate they
were trying to make these accusations without any factual basis,"
retorted Florida Congressman Adam Hasner, who represents the heavily
Jewish area of Boca Raton in the Florida state legislature.

Gov. Palin explained that her alleged "support" of Buchanan consisted
of her sporting a campaign button for him in 1999 when he visited the
town of Wasilla when she was the mayor. Palin explained at the time
she wore the button as a courtesy and that she was an official of the
campaign of Republican presidential contender Steve Forbes.

The Republican Jewish Coalition has pointed out that an Israeli flag
is a fixture on the drapes in her office. "I think it speaks volumes
that she keeps an Israeli flag on the wall of her office," the group's
executive director, Matt Brooks, explained in an e-mail to
Politico.com. "It clearly shows what's in her heart."

Politico's analyst Ben Smith said "he has a point, surely; a
Palestinian flag would have told a different story."

More telling is a close look at her collar in a video of an interview.
Israel National Radio show host Tamar Yonah wrote on her blog that she
noticed what appears to be a small Israeli flag pinned to her blouse.

Gov. Palin has little reason to wear it because of the Jewish
population in the state, which is the largest in terms of area in the
United States but whose estimated 6,000 Jews leave Alaska with one of
the country's smallest Jewish communities. accounting for only 0.5
percent of the state's citizens.

Surprisingly, 70 percent of Alaskan Jews light candles on eve of the
Sabbath, compared with 32 percent of all American Jews, according to
Dr. Gerhard Falk, a New York State sociology professor.

Gov. Palin is a likely Israeli backer because she is "a very religious
person, and the religious Christians are the greatest supporters of
Israel," according to the Hawaii's Jewish governor, Linda Lingle, also
a Republican.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2072940/posts


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On Sep 13, 10:17 am, NOMOREWARFORISRAEL

Explain to me why you think she is any different from the BHO, Biden,
Kennedy, Clinton, Kerry, Gore group?

rsty...@sonic.net

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On Sep 11, 11:06 pm, explorerthedog <exp1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Sarah Palin Would Allow Israel To Drag Us Into War With Iran.
>
> In her interview last night with Charles Gibson, Sarah Palin clearly
> showed that she would not oppose Israel if it decided to attack Iran,
> and thereby drag the United States into yet another war . . . even a
> likely World War III.
>
> Here are the exact words, as reported by Fox News athttp://elections.foxnews.com/2008/09/11/raw-data-palins-interview-wit...

Israel is NOT "our" child. Additionally, Israel is over 50 years old,
does that qualify as "child"?
If "our" is a word to be used at all, it refers only to a tiny
minority pretending to represent the interests
of a much larger percentage of peaceful people, who have been duped.
Iran poses zero threat to
our national security, yet "our" national security seems to pivot upon
it. Hello?
The fact that this years "s-election" brings about so much discussion
about the "stated" policies
of the candidates, shows that the discussers have not been paying
attention for the last 20 years.
The orders that are given, which result in anything tangible, come
from somewhere else.
So, it's just a Holy-wood soap opera with plenty of low brow
humor, slander, the usual scandal, and drama.
A sexy librarian, is a perfect "attraction", regardless of content.
The content itself would be a concern if it
mattered. Isn't it obvious that all the candidates are walking a tight
rope? And yes, it's the "child" that holds
both ends of that rope.

is what they've decided you will see or hear. Not what there "is".

Al Smith

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It really is time that America woke up to the fact that Zionists own
Washington, DC. If there was any doubt about this, just pay
attention to how many elected politicians in Washington say anything
critical about the state of Israel, Zionist intentions, or about the
complete control Jews hold over the various branches of the media in
the United States.

Remember, Israel is the most hated nation on earth. Criticism of
Israel in Europe and in other parts of the world never ceases, and
it is legitimate criticism because Israel regularly commits crimes
against humanity. Yet you will hear scarcely a peep out of
Washington politicians. Why?

Is it because every politician in Washington loves Israel, loves
being at the beck and call of AIPAC, loves having their news and
entertainment controlled by a single small ethnic group? No, it is
because the Washington politicians are *frightened* of AIPAC. They
don't say anything against Israel because they don't have the balls.

Imagine that! All the bullshit posturing and huffing and puffing by
Republican and Democrat war-hawks about projecting American will and
defending American interests, and they run away like scared little
girls from AIPAC. The sad truth is, AIPAC doesn't just influence
them, it *owns* them.

It's time for Americans to shake off their sheep-like, television
induced torpor and state, clearly and loudly, that they are not
going to be owned any longer.

-Al-

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