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Ilena Rose

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Oct 28, 2007, 12:54:34 PM10/28/07
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"Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead
you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about
how to live a happy life and how to work for a better world."

- Linus Pauling, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963,
Peace)

Note from Ilena:

Barrett and his notion that he is a 'quackbuster' labeled Dr. Pauling
a 'quack' along with many others with far better credentials and
credibility that himself. Seems like he was addresses the true quacks
who sell themselves "authorities" and "experts."

Thanks to Patty of the Saline Support Group for this quote today.

www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/Patty.html

Nana Weedkiller

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Oct 28, 2007, 1:16:06 PM10/28/07
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It derived from a libelous article written by someone who claimed that the
NCAHF maintained and distributed a "quack list" containing the name of Linus
Pauling. Neither I nor any other NCAHF official has been able to locate any
such list.
http://www.quackwatch.org/11Ind/bolen2.html

Linus Pauling: The Dark Side of His Legacy,
http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/pauling.html

The claim that vitamin C is useful in the treatment of cancer is largely
attributable to Linus Pauling, Ph.D.
http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/Cancer/c.html

Few things have stirred the imagination and hopes of the public in matters
of nutrition or vexed nutrition scientists as much as Linus Pauling's 1970
book, Vitamin C and the Common Cold
http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/DSH/colds.html

"Fluoride in large amounts is a poison. In small amounts it is beneficial to
human beings."
quote from Linus Pauling.
http://www.quackwatch.org/03HealthPromotion/fluoridepauling.html

Although Pauling was a great chemist, his late-in-life beliefs in vitamin
megadoses have been thoroughly discredited .
http://www.quackwatch.org/11Ind/perricone.html


But the fact that the Pauling/ Cameron study was invalid because its
controls were not randomized is not mentioned.
http://www.quackwatch.org/04ConsumerEducation/NegativeBR/le.html

The International Academy of Preventive Medicine (now called the
International Academy of Nutrition and Preventive Medicine) numbered among
its leaders Carlton Fredericks, Linus Pauling, Lendon Smith, and other
promoters of questionable nutrition practices.
http://www.quackwatch.org/04ConsumerEducation/nonrecorg.html

He also said that "natural" vitamins like natural vitamin C with rose hips
are better than synthetic ones. Even Linus Pauling, whom Mindell frequently
quotes, has pointed out that there is no difference between the two in
nutritional value.

http://www.quackwatch.org/04ConsumerEducation/NegativeBR/vbible.html

Ilena Rose

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Oct 28, 2007, 2:57:03 PM10/28/07
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Wrong Willa Nidiffer ... your repeating the denials of your beloved
ole Quack, Steve Barrett ... is analogous to Coleah Penley Ayers lying
that he had not talked about breast implants in his massive propaganda
for the chemical industry.

www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/QuackWatchWatch.htm#Nanaweedkiller
Willa Nidiffer, aka Lady Ni, aka shill for Quack Stephen Barrett is
lying yet again.

NCAHF ... the hatemongering non profit suspended for several years by
the state of California ... indeed put out a "quack" list ... despite
your lies for Barrett.

http://www.whitakerhealthfreedom.com/index.cfm?tdc=dsp&page=successes_detail&recid=20

Past Successes
A Modern-Day Witch Hunt
Julian Whitaker, M.D.

In the summer of 1692, Salem, Massachusetts, was the site of the most
deadly witch hunt in American history. Accusatory musings of two
preadolescent girls set off a frenzy of hysteria that resulted in 20
executions, 19 by hanging and one by crushing. Another 150 people were
imprisoned, and 17 perished. A few years later, the government made
reparations to many of the families and tried to restore the
reputations of those so unjustly defiled and killed, but the Salem
witch trials remain testimony to the dark side of humanity.

One would think that witch-hunting would be legally and socially
banned, yet it flourishes even today. Webster's dictionary defines it
as "an investigation usually conducted with much publicity, supposedly
to uncover subversive political activity, disloyalty, etc., but really
to harass and weaken the entire political opposition." In the health
world, witch-hunting, in its modern form, is practiced by certain
members of the National Council Against Health Fraud (NCAHF).
They're Against Anything Outside of Conventional Medicine...

This non-profit, tax-exempt organization operates from the campus of
Loma Linda University, guided by NCAHF president, William T. Jarvis,
Ph.D., a Loma Linda University professor. NCAHF's stated purpose is to
"educate consumers, professionals, business people, legislators, law
enforcement personnel, organizations and agencies about health fraud,
misinformation, and quackery."
Hogwash. This group seems more interested in purging the medical
profession of all types of health care other than Food and Drug
Administration (FDA)-approved prescription drugs and conventional
surgery. In its eyes, if a health care professional utilizes virtually
any other therapy, such as chiropractic, acupuncture or nutritional
supplementation, he or she is by definition a "quack" and a "fraud."
The NCAHF is an organization dominated by a small group who liberally
brand health professionals and others with whom they disagree as
quacks and frauds.
...And That's Dangerous

This group's intolerance is dangerous. On April 7, 1997, I attended a
conference on the campus of Loma Linda University entitled, "Cancer
Quackery: What You Should Know!" The sole speaker was NCAHF president
Dr. Jarvis, who discussed the characteristics of quacks and frauds.
Dr. Jarvis ended the program with a videotape and discussion of
Stanislaw Burzynski, a physician who has developed a unique cancer
treatment. Dr. Jarvis held Dr. Burzynski up as an example of a typical
cancer quack.
Dr. Jarvis has a Ph.D. in health education. He is not an M.D. and has
never treated a patient. One would think that before mislabeling Dr.
Burzynski, an M.D. and Ph.D., Jarvis would have investigated his
subject. Yet Jarvis, by his own admission, had never spoken to Dr.
Burzynski, never visited his clinic, and had not reviewed any of Dr.
Burzynski's patient records. (I've been to the Burzynski Clinic on
five different occasions and have done extensive study of some of the
patient records.) Dr. Jarvis did not even know that Dr. Burzynski is
the principal investigator in 72 FDA-approved clinical trials! Does
the FDA allow quacks and frauds to head up approved clinical trials?
I Was Escorted Out by Armed Security Guards

The Loma Linda program invited audience participation, yet when I and
other people, including Mary Jo Siegel, a cancer patient who is alive
because of Dr. Burzynski’s therapy, rose to counter Dr. Jarvis'
misinformed opinions, Jarvis, called armed security guards, who
ejected us from the room. In the parking lot, we were kept under
surveillance by guards armed with German shepherds. On the campus of a
major American university, I feared for my safety and the safety of
those with me.

Imagine: William Jarvis, a Loma Linda University professor, transforms
the campus of that university into such a cesspool of intolerance that
armed guards were used to silence informed rebuttal of his ghastly
character assassination. I registered a strong letter of complaint
with Loma Linda President Dr. Lyn Behrens, as did hundreds of other
physicians.

Attorneys for Loma Linda, in response, distanced the university,
stating that they only lease space to Jarvis and the NCAHF. However,
the fact that the program took place on the campus, the president is a
professor there, and NCAHF offices are on the campus, cloaks this
organization with the respect and authority of the university.
Is Your Doctor on the "Quacklist?"

As bad as it seems, calling the cops to silence contrary opinions is
only part of the nefarious actions of certain NCAHF members. John
Renner, M.D., from Kansas City, an active board member of the NCAHF,
has maintained a list of over 2,500 physicians, Ph.D.s and others he
deems to be quacks and frauds. To be on this list you just need to
belong to an organization that is studying nutrition or any therapy
not yet approved by the FDA.

There's a 1990 copy of the list containing 1,137 M.D.s and 52 people
with double doctorates. Although the list does not appear to be in
general circulation, it may have been supplied to insurance companies
and state medical boards. The result could be that alternative
physicians are financially blackballed, or put under additional
scrutiny.

John Renner has even put Linus Pauling, Ph.D., on this quacklist. Dr.
Pauling has been singled out by two authoritative sources as one of
the top 20 scientists of all time, along with Aristotle, Galileo and
Newton. The only other scientist selected from the 20th century was
Albert Einstein. Imagine, John Renner, a relative "no-weight" compared
to Dr. Pauling, labels the only person to be awarded two unshared
Nobel prizes as a fraud.
Some NCAHF Board Members are Loose Cannons

In a nefarious personal attack on a health care provider, Victor
Herbert, M.D., a NCAHF board member, lodged a complaint with the New
York State authorities against Warren Levin, M.D., a nutritionally
oriented physician. Incredibly, Dr. Herbert was the only complainant
(there were no patient complaints at all) and, even more bizarre, Dr.
Herbert was the only witness against Dr. Levin. Typically, in such
hearings, there are patient complaints against the doctor, and expert
witnesses to support accusations. This travesty droned on for 14 years
and caused the bankruptcy of Dr. Levin.

Finally, the Regents of the University of the State of New York threw
the case out and were particularly harsh in their assessment of Victor
Herbert. In a formal hearing, Victor Herbert went nuts. According to
the Regents' transcript of the hearing, Dr. Herbert's behavior was
"inappropriate and unacceptable," characterized by "inflammatory
remarks and inappropriate outbursts," and he used slanderous terms
such as "liar," "quack," "obnoxious," "vicious," "scum bag," and
"fraud."

Dr. Levin is back helping his patients in New York.
The NCAHF: Our Modern Witch Hunters

So, there you have it. The National Council Against Health Fraud: What
a group! Consider the actions of four of its board members: Jarvis,
Renner, Barrett and Herbert. Jarvis silences informed opinion with
guard dogs, Renner keeps quacklists that could slander and harm
thousands of professionals, Barrett and Herbert engage in improper
behavior to destroy professional reputations of honest health-care
practitioners, and Herbert behaves uncontrollably in a formal hearing.
Can you believe that Loma Linda University allows any of this to go
on?

I sent the president of Loma Linda, Dr. Lyn Behrens (1) the deposition
of Steven Barrett taken in the ADA defamation case, (2) the "quack
list" compiled by John Renner, and (3) the adjudication of Dr. Levin
by the New York State University Regents which, in my opinion,
questioned the propriety of Victor Herbert.

I also initiated a letter-writing campaign to Dr. Behrens. It astounds
me that a major American university, bedecked in all those platitudes
about open-minded quests for truth, would house the NCAHF.
Truth-seeking is incompatible with witch-hunting.

It's time for the NCAHF to go away.

Ilena Rose

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Ilena Rose

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Wrong Willa Nidiffer ... your repeating the denials of your beloved
ole Quack, Steve Barrett ... is analogous to Coleah Penley Ayers lying
that he had not talked about breast implants in his massive propaganda
for the chemical industry.

Excerpt:
http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/quack-suppdeclaration.html

Plaintiffs claim that my statements about them are not related to
breast implant issues. (Opposition, 2:2-6). Barrett, in ¶15 of his
declaration, also declares, "I do not have a ‘highly publicized
viewpoint on the subject of breast implants’" and then states, "Nor
have I been involved in any public controversy about them." However,
page 21 of the 24-page report on "Multiple Chemical Sensitivity"
(MCS), edited by Barrett, and widely disseminated by the American
Council on Science and Health (ACSH), states "If the medical community
accepts the diagnosis and theory of MCS, a wide range of industries
could be seriously affected," and then lists the "silicone breast
implant" makers as number 6 of the industries seriously affected. (The
ACSH/Barrett paper on Dr. Koop's website which linked this has been
removed. 9/15/2007. Please write me here if you need a copy.


www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/QuackWatchWatch.htm#Nanaweedkiller
Willa Nidiffer, aka Lady Ni, aka shill for Quack Stephen Barrett is
lying yet again.

NCAHF ... the hatemongering non profit suspended for several years by
the state of California ... indeed put out a "quack" list ... despite
your lies for Barrett.

http://www.whitakerhealthfreedom.com/index.cfm?tdc=dsp&page=successes_detail&recid=20

Coleah

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Oct 28, 2007, 3:40:35 PM10/28/07
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On Oct 28, 1:57 pm, Ilena Rose <B...@mundo.com> wrote:
> Wrong Willa Nidiffer ... your repeating the denials of your beloved
> ole Quack, Steve Barrett ... is analogous to Coleah Penley Ayers lying
> that he had not talked about breast implants in his massive propaganda
> for the chemical industry.
>
> www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/QuackWatchWatch.htm#Nanaweedkiller
> Willa Nidiffer, aka Lady Ni, aka shill for Quack Stephen Barrett is
> lying yet again.
>
> NCAHF ... the hatemongering non profit suspended for several years by
> the state of California ... indeed put out a "quack" list ... despite
> your lies for Barrett.

Hatemongering.....
Someone is 'hatemongering' all right.....

Ilena Rose

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Oct 28, 2007, 3:59:23 PM10/28/07
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Wrong Willa Nidiffer ... your repeating the denials of your beloved
ole Quack, Steve Barrett ... is analogous to Coleah Penley Ayers lying
that he had not talked about breast implants in his massive propaganda
for the chemical industry.

Excerpt:
http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/quack-suppdeclaration.html

Plaintiffs claim that my statements about them are not related to
breast implant issues. (Opposition, 2:2-6). Barrett, in ¶15 of his
declaration, also declares, "I do not have a ‘highly publicized
viewpoint on the subject of breast implants’" and then states, "Nor
have I been involved in any public controversy about them." However,
page 21 of the 24-page report on "Multiple Chemical Sensitivity"
(MCS), edited by Barrett, and widely disseminated by the American
Council on Science and Health (ACSH), states "If the medical community
accepts the diagnosis and theory of MCS, a wide range of industries
could be seriously affected," and then lists the "silicone breast
implant" makers as number 6 of the industries seriously affected. (The
ACSH/Barrett paper on Dr. Koop's website which linked this has been
removed. 9/15/2007. Please write me here if you need a copy.

www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/QuackWatchWatch.htm#Nanaweedkiller
Willa Nidiffer, aka Lady Ni, aka shill for Quack Stephen Barrett is
lying yet again.

NCAHF ... the hatemongering non profit suspended for several years by
the state of California ... indeed put out a "quack" list ... despite
your lies for Barrett.

http://www.whitakerhealthfreedom.com/index.cfm?tdc=dsp&page=successes_detail&recid=20

Nana Weedkiller

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Oct 30, 2007, 10:56:33 AM10/30/07
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Nana Weedkiller

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Oct 30, 2007, 11:02:50 AM10/30/07
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Ilena lying to the court. Breast implants are mentioned one time and
that means his opinion is "highly publicized" and he was involved
in "public controversy" ?

>
> Plaintiffs claim that my statements about them are not related to

> breast implant issues. (Opposition, 2:2-6). Barrett, in ś15 of his

Ilena Rose

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Oct 30, 2007, 12:57:53 PM10/30/07
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Wrong again. Willa Nidiffer ... your repeating the denials of your

beloved ole Quack, Steve Barrett ... is analogous to Coleah Penley
Ayers lying that he had not talked about breast implants in his
massive propaganda for the chemical industry.

Loser Stephen Barrett is using Willa "Cathy UNCredulous" Nidiffer to
try to rewrite history of his losing case.


www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/BarrettVsRosenthal.htm

Excerpt:
http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/quack-suppdeclaration.html

Plaintiffs claim that my statements about them are not related to

breast implant issues. (Opposition, 2:2-6). Barrett, in ¶15 of his


declaration, also declares, "I do not have a ‘highly publicized
viewpoint on the subject of breast implants’" and then states, "Nor
have I been involved in any public controversy about them." However,
page 21 of the 24-page report on "Multiple Chemical Sensitivity"
(MCS), edited by Barrett, and widely disseminated by the American
Council on Science and Health (ACSH), states "If the medical community
accepts the diagnosis and theory of MCS, a wide range of industries
could be seriously affected," and then lists the "silicone breast

Coleah

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Oct 30, 2007, 2:17:47 PM10/30/07
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On Oct 30, 11:57 am, Ilena Rose <B...@mundo.com> wrote:
> Wrong again. Willa Nidiffer ... your repeating the denials of your
> beloved ole Quack, Steve Barrett ... is analogous to Coleah Penley
> Ayers lying that he had not talked about breast implants in his
> massive propaganda for the chemical industry.

For years and years Ilena Rosenthal has tried to paint Barrett as
being some big time promoter breast implants, etc, etc, etc.....gag-
namuous. I think the man had one sentence published umpteen years ago
and the one reference below regarding MCS.

Hardly anything for breast implant women to get personally excited
about or feel threatened by him.....not like how Ilena gets over-
wrought with him. But then Ilena got sued by him, which points to her
ongoing hate of the man. Ilena presents with a dominating and
aggressive approach to 'I hate him', so you'd better too. It just
doesn't wash with the run of the mill breast implant woman. Sorry if
that ruins your life, Ilena.

He is YOUR problem, not ours.

Ilena Rose

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Oct 30, 2007, 2:36:00 PM10/30/07
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It's very interesting watching Loser Barrett of the ACSH ... one of
the front groups who has long been funded by Dow and other breast
implant makers hiding behind Willa Nidiffer and Coleah Penley Ayers.

www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/coleah.htm
www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/nanaweedkiller.htm

Coleah lies that I claim that Barrett "promoted" implants ... I have
never said that. (She lies about so much, this is just one specific
lie ... here are a few others)
www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/coleah-lies.htm

ACSH "advisor" Barrett, does, however, promote the chemical industry
propaganda about MCS, and wages his usual Wars against those
scientists working to help the millions afflicted by MCS .. implantees
included.

As a corporate apologist ... he blames everything but the chemicals
for MCS ... and has written how the chemical industry who funds ACSH,
would be "affected" ... a wishy washy Barretttesque word for harmed.

Trying to upgrade the image of the chemical corporations harming
millions of people is the job of PR or "media" corporate backers like
Barrett.

May God protect the women and others harmed by the chemical industry
and their Propagandists.

www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/QuackWatchWatch.htm

Ilena Rose

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Oct 30, 2007, 2:41:00 PM10/30/07
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Coleah

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Oct 30, 2007, 5:12:57 PM10/30/07
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On Oct 30, 1:36 pm, Ilena Rose <B...@mundo.com> wrote:
> It's very interesting watching Loser Barrett of the ACSH ... one of
> the front groups who has long been funded by Dow and other breast
> implant makers hiding behind Willa Nidiffer and Coleah Penley Ayers.
>
> www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/coleah.htmwww.BreastImplantAwareness.org/nanaweedkiller.htm
>
> Coleah lies that I claim that Barrett "promoted" implants ... I have
> never said that. (She lies about so much, this is just one specific
> lie ... here are a few others)

Read for comprehension and stop twisting.

I said 'tried to paint'....as in the post on Usenet (thank God for the
archives) where when asked what all this hoorah (about Barrett, et al)
was supposed to mean personally to breast implant women, you replied
'plenty' and went into your song and dance routine of 'associating'
apples and oranges.

It's been you at war with all you imaginary enemies....for years.

Okay, carry on with what I believe you do best....bad mouth and
belittle.


Ilena Rose

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LOL ... Barrett's choice for industry Implant Support Leader Coleah
Penley Ayers is lost between the voices in her head and facts.

Barrett she calls my "imaginary enemy" after he has waged smear and
legal assaults against me for 7 years ... with her faithful help.

INDEED, his propaganda about MCS, CFS which he, who I fully believe
personifies a "quack" by his very own definition, mislabels these real
syndromes "fads" and then wages similar legal and smear assaults
against the fine scientists & doctors working to figure out these
complex issues.

I have heard untold thousands of times women being told they are crazy
when indeed they are sick ... unintelligent responses from MD's who
believe the propaganda Barrett has been spewing for years.

I personally know several and know about many doctors he has attacked
in his multifaceted ways ... while he, a failure in passing his own
psychiatric boards and never even board certified, falsely fills the
internet (with help of Rag-tag Posse Members) with google bombs of
Barrett's pharma / chemical industry 'opinions.'

His 'work' is mislabeling and suing & otherwise attacking those
activists and doctors he disagrees with ... and then has idiots like
you and Myrl and Willa Nidiffer doing cartwheels for flacks and
distraction.


It's very interesting watching Loser Barrett of the ACSH ... one of
the front groups who has long been funded by Dow and other breast
implant makers hiding behind Willa Nidiffer and Coleah Penley Ayers.

www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/coleah.htm
www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/nanaweedkiller.htm

Coleah lies that I claim that Barrett "promoted" implants ... I have
never said that. (She lies about so much, this is just one specific
lie ... here are a few others)

www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/coleah-lies.htm

ACSH "advisor" Barrett, does, however, promote the chemical industry
propaganda about MCS, and wages his usual Wars against those
scientists working to help the millions afflicted by MCS .. implantees
included.

As a corporate apologist ... he blames everything but the chemicals
for MCS ... and has written how the chemical industry who funds ACSH,
would be "affected" ... a wishy washy Barretttesque word for harmed.

Trying to upgrade the image of the chemical corporations harming
millions of people is the job of PR or "media" corporate backers like
Barrett.

May God protect the women and others harmed by the chemical industry
and their Propagandists.

www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/QuackWatchWatch.htm


www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/BarrettVsRosenthal.htm

Excerpt:

Ilena Rose

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www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/coleah.htm
www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/nanaweedkiller.htm

LOL ... Willa Nidiffer and Coleah will repeat any lie for Barrett ...
just like good soldiers following orders.

They can now claim there is no Rag-tag Posse List because they have
removed the website and Bowditch also removed it from the webarchive
... but that doesn't mean it didn't exist.

Coleah

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Oct 30, 2007, 10:14:40 PM10/30/07
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On Oct 30, 6:28 pm, Ilena Rose <B...@mundo.com> wrote:
> www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/coleah.htmwww.BreastImplantAwareness.org/nanaweedkiller.htm

>
> LOL ... Willa Nidiffer and Coleah will repeat any lie for Barrett ...
> just like good soldiers following orders.
>
> They can now claim there is no Rag-tag Posse List because they have
> removed the website and Bowditch also removed it from the webarchive
> ... but that doesn't mean it didn't exist.

The hateful dog and pony show is getting very old.

The 'posse' list existed. Big deal. Other people recognized the
humor of the list, and it appears that you are the only person
bitching because the website changed and it was removed. What's it to
you ????

The things you make into a 'federal offenses' are absolutely amazing.
Rave on......


Peter Bowditch

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Oct 30, 2007, 11:49:57 PM10/30/07
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Ilena Rose <B...@mundo.com> wrote:

>They can now claim there is no Rag-tag Posse List

Nobody is claiming that the list didn't exist. I made the list and IT
EXISTED.

> because they have
>removed the website

No, "they" have not removed anything. A single person, me, removed the
web site because after seven years the joke (which you did not get)
had become boring.

> and Bowditch also removed it from the webarchive

No, the people who run the web archive removed it from the web
archive. I don't have access to the web archive database, so how could
I remove anything. It is normal practice for the web archive people to
remove material which site owners no longer consider relevant.

http://www.archive.org/about/exclude.php

>... but that doesn't mean it didn't exist.

Oh, it existed all right. For seven years. It has been gone since
January, 2007. I am sorry if this destroys your life.

--
Peter Bowditch aa #2243
The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles
Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au
Australian Skeptics http://www.skeptics.com.au
To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com

Ilena Rose

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Myrl

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On Nov 4, 9:20 am, Ilena Rose <B...@mundo.com> wrote:

> NCAHF ... the hatemongering non profit suspended for several years by
> the state of California ... indeed put out a "quack" list ... despite
> your lies for Barrett.


For a list of "hatemongering" webpages by Ilena Rosenthal, hosted on
her non profit web space, please visit the following. Many of these
abusive and libelous pages are "devoted" to her insane diatribes
against women harmed by breast implants, who she "proclaims" to be
advocating for:

A few representative links (as of 10/2/07) which Ilena has attributed
in Usenet posts to those she herself tagged as "Mine Enemies" (BTW -
what kind of a person publicizes that they actually go around naming
so many enemies?)


* http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/Wikipedia.htm

* http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/WikiArb1.htm

* http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/WikiArb2.htm

* http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/ladyni.htm

* http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/maan.html

* http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/kingbio.htm

* http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/threats.htm

* http://www.breastimplantawareness.org/QuackWatchWatch.htm#Vernon

* http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/QuackWatchWatch.htm#Thorson

* http://drstephenbarrettmd.blogspot.com/2006/02/clone-of-salem-witch-hunter-part-1.html

* http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/Matrix.html

* http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/QuackWatchWatch.htm#Crohnie

* http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/QuackWatchWatch.htm#Susan-Ferris

* http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/QuackWatchWatch.htm#Posse

* http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/WillaNidiffer.htm

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ter-part-1.html

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* http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/DisinfoAgents.htm#SnoopysBack

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* http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/DisinfoAgents.htm#PlantPushes

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* http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/DisinfoAgentsFAQ.htm

* http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/DisinfoAgentsFAQ.htm#WrongerThanWright

* http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/DisinfoAgents.htm#plant

* http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/DisinfoAgents.htm#fuzzyandy

* http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/DisinfoAgentsFAQ.htm#WrongerThanWright

* http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/Disinfoagents.htm#PlantLiesAgain

* http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/DisinfoAgents.htm#ProbertTheCoward

* http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/DisinfoAgents.htm#DentalDeityfromSatan

* http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/DisinfoAgentsFAQ.htm#Wrongerthanwright

* http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/DisinfoAgents.htm#ProbertFoolingOnlyHimself

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* http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/DisinfoAgents.htm#MyrlTheInterrogatorRidesAgain

* http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/ss.html

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Coleah

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Nov 4, 2007, 1:46:44 PM11/4/07
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On Nov 4, 11:20 am, Ilena Rose <B...@mundo.com> wrote:
> Excerpt:http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/quack-suppdeclaration.html
>
> Plaintiffs claim that my statements about them are not related to
> breast implant issues. (Opposition, 2:2-6). Barrett, in ¶15 of his
> declaration, also declares, "I do not have a 'highly publicized
> viewpoint on the subject of breast implants'" and then states, "Nor
> have I been involved in any public controversy about them." However,
> page 21 of the 24-page report on "Multiple Chemical Sensitivity"
> (MCS), edited by Barrett, and widely disseminated by the American
> Council on Science and Health (ACSH), states "If the medical community
> accepts the diagnosis and theory of MCS, a wide range of industries
> could be seriously affected," and then lists the "silicone breast
> implant" makers as number 6 of the industries seriously affected. (The
> ACSH/Barrett paper on Dr. Koop's website which linked this has been
> removed. 9/15/2007. Please write me here if you need a copy.

It never ceases to amaze me.....

Ilena Rosenthal would repeatedly point to one statement made about six
different industries regarding MCS and feed it off as a 'highly
publicized viewpoint about breast implants' specifically.

Sorry Ilena, I think your hate campaign was exposed a very long time
ago.

Ilena Rose

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Nov 4, 2007, 3:43:03 PM11/4/07
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Barrett's Parrot, Willa Nanaweediller Nidiffer denies this exists ...
more trying to change the dark, ugly history of NCAHF and the
incalculable harm they have done to fine doctors and their patients.

EXCERPT:

Ilena Rose

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Nov 19, 2007, 9:53:41 AM11/19/07
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Excerpt:
http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/quack-suppdeclaration.html

Plaintiffs claim that my statements about them are not related to
breast implant issues. (Opposition, 2:2-6). Barrett, in ¶15 of his
declaration, also declares, "I do not have a ‘highly publicized
viewpoint on the subject of breast implants’" and then states, "Nor
have I been involved in any public controversy about them." However,
page 21 of the 24-page report on "Multiple Chemical Sensitivity"
(MCS), edited by Barrett, and widely disseminated by the American
Council on Science and Health (ACSH), states "If the medical community
accepts the diagnosis and theory of MCS, a wide range of industries
could be seriously affected," and then lists the "silicone breast
implant" makers as number 6 of the industries seriously affected. (The
ACSH/Barrett paper on Dr. Koop's website which linked this has been
removed. 9/15/2007. Please write me here if you need a copy.

www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/QuackWatchWatch.htm#Nanaweedkiller
Willa Nidiffer, aka Lady Ni, aka shill for Quack Stephen Barrett is
lying yet again.

NCAHF ... the hatemongering non profit suspended for several years by


the state of California ... indeed put out a "quack" list ... despite
your lies for Barrett.

http://www.whitakerhealthfreedom.com/index.cfm?tdc=dsp&page=successes_detail&recid=20

Ilena Rose

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Nov 19, 2007, 9:53:59 AM11/19/07
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Ilena Rose

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Dec 2, 2007, 11:39:38 AM12/2/07
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Excerpt:
http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/quack-suppdeclaration.html

Plaintiffs claim that my statements about them are not related to
breast implant issues. (Opposition, 2:2-6). Barrett, in ¶15 of his
declaration, also declares, "I do not have a ‘highly publicized
viewpoint on the subject of breast implants’" and then states, "Nor
have I been involved in any public controversy about them." However,
page 21 of the 24-page report on "Multiple Chemical Sensitivity"
(MCS), edited by Barrett, and widely disseminated by the American
Council on Science and Health (ACSH), states "If the medical community
accepts the diagnosis and theory of MCS, a wide range of industries
could be seriously affected," and then lists the "silicone breast
implant" makers as number 6 of the industries seriously affected. (The
ACSH/Barrett paper on Dr. Koop's website which linked this has been
removed. 9/15/2007. Please write me here if you need a copy.


www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/QuackWatchWatch.htm#Nanaweedkiller
Willa Nidiffer, aka Lady Ni, aka shill for Quack Stephen Barrett is
lying yet again.

NCAHF ... the hatemongering non profit suspended for several years by
the state of California ... indeed put out a "quack" list ... despite
your lies for Barrett.

http://www.whitakerhealthfreedom.com/index.cfm?tdc=dsp&page=successes_detail&recid=20

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