Vaccine Lies, And Damn Lies straight from the CDC

[John H. Gohde]

Vaccine Lies, And Damn Lies straight from the CDC

MMWR vol 43 / No.RR-1 January 28, 1994

http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/PDF/rr/rr4301.pdf

http://tinyurl.com/m9n2dah

[vittyguy]

The link was for a '94 article.

Here is current info about the same topic:

CDC National Vaccine Program Office: Q and A

http://archive.hhs.gov/nvpo/qa.htm

[John H. Gohde]

As Dr. Tenpenny states, vaccines are a big topic which she could talk
days and days upon.

The truth however is quite small. I intend to focus in on the Vaccine
Lies, And Damn Lies straight from the CDC.

[John H. Gohde]

On Jun 3, 5:24 pm, vitty guy wrote:

As always, the "Devil" is in the details.

Glossing over the details is called lying through your teeth; Vaccine
Lies, And Damn Lies; and criminal negligence. :)

[John H. Gohde]

For those that prefer a video presentation ...

Vaccination - What the CDC Documents and Science Reveal, 2003, in a
one hour 47 minutes long detailed presentation of the anti-vaccination
evidence by Dr. Sherri Tenpenny.

http://tinyurl.com/kk5hwjf

From 10:00 to 10:25 of the Vid, Dr. Tenpenny covers the essence of the
word games being played by conventional medicine.

[John H. Gohde]

I have gotten enough info to write my new article. :)

To hell with the CDC. The science behind vaccines and vaccinations is
laughably out of date.

My 3 previous articles published on our natural immune system, ALREADY
documents just how laughable the concept of vaccines truly are.
Vaccines based upon science, My Ass!

Vaccine pushers is code for Scientific Imbeciles.

ROFLOL

I had the scoop on vaccines and vaccinations, ALL along. :)

[vittyguy]

"My 3 previous articles published on our natural immune system, ALREADY
documents just how laughable the concept of vaccines truly are.
Vaccines based upon science, My Ass!

Vaccine pushers is code for Scientific Imbeciles.

ROFLOL

I had the scoop on vaccines and vaccinations, ALL along. :)"

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[vittyguy]

She is an osteopath spine popper. Her medical experience is in the er not
in the kind of medical research she now pretends to represent. See her
confession here:

'Sherri Tenpenny is not a research scientist'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pByYy2uhIIU

[John H. Gohde]

Sorry, but the science has nothing to do with Tenpenny.

[Unknown]

> She is an osteopath spine popper. =A0Her medical experience is in the er
=
not
> in the kind of medical research she now pretends to represent. =A0See her

> confession here:
>
> 'Sherri Tenpenny is not a research scientist'
>

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DpByYy2uhIIU

"Sorry, but the science has nothing to do with Tenpenny."

Correct, she prades her experience in the er and then turns to an area in
which she is not an expert,ie. of scientific/medical research. The
assertions she makes are not supported by her experience. It is her
opinion not her ability to speak from an informed basis that is the
problem. Opinions are like noses, everyone gets one.

[vittyguy]

> She is an osteopath spine popper. =A0Her medical experience is in the er
=
not
> in the kind of medical research she now pretends to represent. =A0See her

> confession here:
>
> 'Sherri Tenpenny is not a research scientist'
>

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DpByYy2uhIIU

"Sorry, but the science has nothing to do with Tenpenny."

[John H. Gohde]

On Jun 3, 8:49 pm, vitty guy wrote:

What exactly would I be?

She does NOT pretend anything.

She is successful at what she does. And, makes money doing what she
does.

You tell me how she got board certified in emergency room medicine.

[vittyguy]

> She is an osteopath spine popper. =A0Her medical experience is in the er
=
not
> in the kind of medical research she now pretends to represent. =A0See her

> confession here:
>
> 'Sherri Tenpenny is not a research scientist'
>

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DpByYy2uhIIU

"What exactly would I be?"

Who knows, it ain't about you.

"She does NOT pretend anything."

She first thing tells us she worked in an er, she knows her limitations
which is why she waves this around as though it is relevant to the question
of vaccine.

"She is successful at what she does. And, makes money doing what she
does."

You bet, and the success is not in demonstrated knowledge of the research
science but of pr and selling a boogie man story to concerned parents.
Those who are uninformed about the science of the matter are unprepared to
evaluate her speil.

"You tell me how she got board certified in emergency room medicine."

The same as any other doc does, but docs are not scientists and her
experience is far far removed from the science of vaccines.

She now is a full time spine popper, she confesses she comes from a family
of chiropractic relatives. That group are perhaps the most noisy on the
vaccine question. They would rather sell unproven nostrums to the same
concerned uninformed about the science parents.

Did you look at the video link above? I think not, in it she get's
flustered when she has to confess aloud she is not a scientist and expert
on the questions of vaccines.

[John H. Gohde]

Hello Troll:

Why are YOU so Evil? Are you trying out for the role of Dr. Evil?

You are quite the Ass.

[Bob Officer]

On 04 Jun 2013 16:57:56 GMT, in misc.health.alternative, vitty guy
wrote:

I wonder about the insurance cases which might have stood against
her.

I read once the medical malpractice insurance fees are on a different
order of magnitude for chiropractors.

Many Doctors training in alternative methods to not really have the
stomach for real er/trauma medicine. The blood, guts and gore gets to
them. They stick with the fake stuff like bone and joint popping.

>Did you look at the video link above? I think not, in it she get's
>flustered when she has to confess aloud she is not a scientist and expert
>on the questions of vaccines.

I watched it and found she fails to really address issues and often
misuses data or cherry picks the bits and pieces which fit her profit
driven agenda.


--
Bob Officer
"Whoops .... now where did I put that other braincell?
It make it very hard to work things out.

Oh, I'll check up my arse ...get back to ya."
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[John H. Gohde]

Hello Troll:

Why are YOU so Evil? Are you trying out for the role of Dr. Evil?

You are quite the Scum Bucket.

[John H. Gohde]

> > > Vaccine Lies, And Damn Lies straight from the CDC
>
> > > MMWR vol 43 / No.RR-1  January 28, 1994
>
> http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/PDF/rr/rr4301.pdf
>
> http://tinyurl.com/m9n2dah
>
> > For those that prefer a video presentation ...
>
> > Vaccination - What the CDC Documents and Science Reveal, 2003, in a
> > one hour 47 minutes long detailed presentation of the anti-vaccination
> > evidence by Dr. Sherri Tenpenny.
>
>  http://tinyurl.com/kk5hwjf
>
> > From 10:00 to 10:25 of the Vid, Dr. Tenpenny covers the essence of the
> > word games being played by conventional medicine.
>
> I  have gotten enough info to write my new article. :)
>
> To hell with the CDC.  The science behind vaccines and vaccinations is
> laughably out of date.
>
> My 3 previous articles published on our natural immune system, ALREADY
> documents just how laughable the concept of vaccines truly are.
> Vaccines based upon science, My Ass!
>
> Vaccine pushers is code for Scientific Imbeciles.
>
> ROFLOL
>
> I had the scoop on vaccines and vaccinations, ALL along. :)

ditto!

[vittyguy]

> To hell with the CDC. =A0The science behind vaccines and vaccinations is

> laughably out of date.
>
> My 3 previous articles published on our natural immune system, ALREADY
> documents just how laughable the concept of vaccines truly are.
> Vaccines based upon science, My Ass!
>
> Vaccine pushers is code for Scientific Imbeciles.
>
> ROFLOL
>
> I had the scoop on vaccines and vaccinations, ALL along. :)

[John H. Gohde]

Go back to your coma, Science Psycho!

[John H. Gohde]

Watching a 2 hour long video is NOT necessary at all.

I was able to put the important concepts into just a few hundred
words.

http://tinyurl.com/mmdmaep

Unfortunately, the sole YouTube video that nailed the topic, in just a
few minutes, barred their vid from being embedded in HTML coding. So
here it is.

http://tinyurl.com/kl2lozm

[John H. Gohde]

On Jun 7, 2:27 am, "John H. Gohde" <john.h.go...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 7, 1:26 am, Sylvia Else <syl...@not.at.this.address> wrote:
>
> > On 7/06/2013 2:56 PM, John H. Gohde wrote:
>
> > > On Jun 6, 8:20 pm, Sylvia Else <syl...@not.at.this.address> wrote:

> > >> On 6/06/2013 11:18 PM, John H. Gohde wrote:
>
> > >>> Watching a 2 hour long video is NOT necessary at all.
>
> > >>> I was able to put the important concepts into just a few hundred
> > >>> words.
>
> > >>>http://tinyurl.com/mmdmaep
>

> > >> Quotes:
>
> > >> "The administration of an immunobiologic [i.e., vaccine] cannot be
> > >> automatically equated with the development of adequate immunity." [CDC
> > >> 1994, page vi]
>
> > >> Which is a nice example of reading between the lines, but failing to
> > >> read the lines themselves.
>
> > >> The statement is actually just making the well known point that vaccines
> > >> are not 100% effective. But that's not the same as saying they don't
> > >> work. I take paracetamol (which is acetaminophen for the yanks) for
> > >> chronic headaches. Sometimes the headache persists despite the drug.
> > >> Does this mean that the drug does not work? Have I thrown it out and
> > >> complained to everyone who'll listen about the worthlessness of the
> > >> drug? Of course not. It always provides some degree of relief, and often
> > >> it's entirely effective.
>
> > >> Sylvia
>
> > > ROFLOL
>
> > > I take BC powder because it is 100% effective.  Either you believe in
> > > science, or you do NOT.   Aspirin works.  It is just amounts to using
> > > the correct aspirin delivery system.  :)
>
http://tinyurl.com/k8ffqdv
>
> > > When I want BC to work some more, I  take a second one. The stuff
> > > works all the time. It may not get all of my headache the first time,
> > > but my headache is definitely reduced.
> > >
> > > According to you, when it comes to vaccines they have bad days.
> > > Sometimes a vaccine will protect you, and sometimes it wont.  YES,
> > > Sylvia apparently believes that vaccines are moody. Sounds like the
> > > classical example of a superstitious person to moi.
>
> > Did you have to look up "strawman argument" before you put that together?
>
> > Clearly the paracetamol analogy isn't exact - the variation seen with
> > vaccines is not on a particular person from day to day, since people
> > don't receive the same vaccine over and over again[*]. Instead, the
> > variation is from person to person.
>
> > > In my book, either the crap will protect you or it wont.
>
> > Why would you think that a complex process could be reduced to a simple
> > dichotomy?
>
> > > From what I
> > > have seen, vaccines don't work for all too many different reasons.
>
> > And when none of the reasons apply, in a particular individual, they do
> > work. The overall success rate varies from vaccine to vaccine (and
> > probably from population to population). Still, if you're offered food,
> > but it's not sufficient to satisfy your hunger, would you refuse it?
>
> > Sylvia.
>
> > [*] The observation that some vaccines are given a few times will be
> > ignored.
>
> ROFLOL
>
> I just updated my article.  :)
>
> It is still not quite right, but I have and will be adding more stuff
> on your very point as well as on immunocompromised individuals.
>
> I am still warming up for my forthcoming conclusion section.

I was able to put the important concepts into just a few hundred
words.

http://tinyurl.com/mmdmaep

Unfortunately, the sole YouTube video that nailed the topic, in just a
few minutes, barred their vid from being embedded in HTML coding. So
here it is.

http://tinyurl.com/kl2lozm

The article development process continues.

I am having fun laughing at all the Science Imbeciles on these ngs.
Now, they openly admit to being superstitious.

Sad, But Totally Predictable. :)

[John H. Gohde]

I have managed to locate a suitable YouTube video. :)

http://tinyurl.com/mmdmaep

It is a 15 minute vid from Dr. Tenpenny, with the most important info
given up front. As people give up on the video, it is no big loss.

[vittyguy]

> Unfortunately, the sole YouTube video that nailed the topic, in just a

> few minutes, barred their vid from being embedded in HTML coding. =A0So

> here it is.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/kl2lozm

Snicker, and snicker again. What those two need is a basic bio. 101 class
to understand microbes, their mutation and evolution. They would then have
answers for all their open ended rhetorical questions about the range in
effect of vaccines. It would also clear up many mistatements given that
shows a basic lack of info. on the topic.

Surely the poster having set himself up as a go to person for such
questions of basic biology would have spotted this at the first, no?

[John H. Gohde]

Time STOPS for nobody, NOT even for the Science Psychos.

I just embedded a entirely new video from Dr. Tenpenny in my article
as well as a 2nd direct quote from the CDC's own documents.

http://tinyurl.com/mmdmaep

Collectively the text of my article strikes a death blown to the
Science Imbeciles on these ngs. :)

[vittyguy]

> > Unfortunately, the sole YouTube video that nailed the topic, in just a
> > few minutes, barred their vid from being embedded in HTML coding.

=3DA0=

So
> > here it is.
>
> >http://tinyurl.com/kl2lozm
>

> Snicker, and snicker again. =A0What those two need is a basic bio. 101
cl=
ass
> to understand microbes, their mutation and evolution. =A0They would then
=

have
> answers for all their open ended rhetorical questions about the range in

> effect of vaccines. =A0It would also clear up many mistatements given
tha=

t
> shows a basic lack of info. on the topic.
>
> Surely the poster having set himself up as a go to person for such
> questions of basic biology would have spotted this at the first, no?


"Time STOPS for nobody, NOT even for the Science Psychos."

And basic facts of bio don't bend to every quack to come down the pike.

"I just embedded a entirely new video from Dr. Tenpenny in my article as
well as a 2nd direct quote from the CDC's own documents.

http://tinyurl.com/mmdmaep

Collectively the text of my article strikes a death blown to the Science
Imbeciles on these ngs. :)"

I looked, it doesn't address the basic biology of microbes, their mutation
and evolution, and how it relates to vaccines.

I didn't see her new video, but considering her being forced to confess she
is not a research scientist, of what value is she on what are basic
questions that can only be answered by same?

"Death blow", oh dear, must we post once again the narcissistic personality
disorder bit?

[John H. Gohde]

Disinformation Vaccine Alarmist Alert!

Science Imbecile Alert!

Moi is NOT a research scientist, and I just crushed the Science

Imbeciles on these ngs. :)

http://tinyurl.com/mmdmaep

[vittyguy]

"Moi is NOT a research scientist, and I just crushed the Science
Imbeciles on these ngs. :)"

We know, we know, we know exactly what you lack to be taken seriously. One
reasone one must be informed on science is to be able to sort the trash
from the good stuff. When one encounters a garbage bin of a web site then
one knows of what the poster speaks.

[John H. Gohde]

There is nothing wrong with your computer monitor. Do not attempt to
adjust the screen. I am controlling transmission. I can change the
focus to a soft blur or sharpen it to crystal clarity. For the next
few minutes, sit quietly and try to focus on all that you can see and
hear. Repeat to yourself: I am no longer in the land of the Science
Psychos. Tell yourself: There is nothing wrong with my monitor. The
problem is NOT in my mind, but in that dumb primary preventive service
called vaccination.

http://tinyurl.com/mmdmaep

P.S.: That picture at the top of the article is way to big. It is
that way because of a Facebook bug. I am in control. The size of
that picture will be reduced in half, some time tomorrow. Why?
Because moi is ALWAYS in in control.

[John H. Gohde]

On Jun 7, 11:02 pm, BruceS <bruce...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> I've had a double whiskey and a jumbo margarita (ap. 16oz), so you make
> a lot more sense than usual.  Still a raving bat-shit crazy loon with
> severe mental deficiencies, but much better than usual.  I wonder, if I
> finished off a fifth of booze, and smoked an ounce of that
> no-longer-just-for-medical-purposes Colorado weed, would you start to
> sound like you aren't a moronic psychopath?  Idk, not worth the risk.

The recent flurry of activity on vaccines and vaccinations on these
ngs inspired me to do an open minded investigation into this technical
subject. As usual, I had absolutely no idea where my research would
end up. The result was honestly a total surprise to moi.

http://tinyurl.com/mmdmaep

[vittyguy]

Snore.

Some people's minds are so open all information goes in one side and out
the other.

How can we expect the claims of one not experienced in science when they
attempt, and fail, to judge the validity of the claims of others? We
cann't, and it leaves them vulnerable to all manner of quacks.

[John H. Gohde]

On Jun 8, 7:29 am, vitty guy wrote:

> How can we expect the claims of one not experienced in science when they
> attempt, and fail, to judge the validity of the claims of others?  We
> cann't, and it leaves them vulnerable to all manner of quacks.

This sentence, which it ain't, failed my grammar checker.

Could you be drunk, already, so early in the morning? No wait, you
are just a Science Psycho. That explains it, don't it?

[John H. Gohde]

[John H. Gohde]

Yes, it is sad, but true.

Moi is preparing to part from these ngs, long at last. These Usenet
ngs have been an incredible waste of my time. Not to mention, Usenet
newsgroups are a horribly obsolete forum.

I will be moving onto Disqus forums.

Of course, Moi is planning on doing a lot of things.

[vittyguy]

"M
n
n

I"

You bet, a service for web bloggers etc. to control the discussion on their
pages.

[John H. Gohde]

A miracle just happened. The old Google interface just popped up out
of no where. Somebody above must be on my side. :)

[vittyguy]

'Vaccine advocate takes on the alternative medicine industry'

http://www.nbcnews.com/health/vaccine-advocate-takes-alternative-medicine-industry-6C10331958

[John H. Gohde]

Worth repeating ...