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John H. Gohde

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May 14, 2013, 7:39:47 AM5/14/13
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Angelina Jolie reveals she had double mastectomy

http://tinyurl.com/croy47k

Angelina Jolie revealed today that she recently underwent a preventive
double mastectomy after learning she carries a gene that puts her at
high risk for breast cancer.

(In an op-ed in Tuesday’s New York Times, the Oscar-winning movie star
wrote that she wrapped up three months of surgical procedures,
including reconstructive surgery, in late April.
“I wanted to write this to tell other women that the decision to have
a mastectomy was not easy,” Jolie writes. “But it is one I am very
happy that I made. My chances of developing breast cancer have dropped
from 87 percent to under 5 percent. I can tell my children that they
don’t need to fear they will lose me to breast cancer.”

Jolie, who has six children with fiancé Brad Pitt, writes that her
mother, actress Marcheline Bertrand, died at 59 after a long battle
with ovarian cancer. That prompted Jolie to pursue genetic testing and
discover she carries the BRCA1 gene, with a high likelihood of both
breast and ovarian cancer. “I started with the breasts, as my risk of
breast cancer is higher than my risk of ovarian cancer, and the
surgery is more complex.”
While acknowledging that the cost of genetic screening is high — as
much as $3,000 — Jolie writes that she hopes more women “will be able
to get gene tested” and “know that they have strong options.”

John H. Gohde

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May 14, 2013, 7:48:59 AM5/14/13
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I hope that MORE progressive females STOP buying into the lies of
conventional medicine hook, line, and sinker and START being rational
for the first time in their lives by getting serious about vitamin D.

Breast cancer is a vitamin D deficiency disease.

http://tinyurl.com/ckzpks4

Here is an introductory article on How to Easily Prevent Most Breast
Cancer.

http://tinyurl.com/7b77fkp

ALL age-related epithelial cancers are a vitamin D deficiency
disease. And, I do NOT mind saying so. :)

ALL that the Science Psychos have to offer on these ngs is a pack of
lies and their silence on important health issues.

Please Science Psychos do yourselves in for the betterment of man and
woman kind.

vittyguy

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May 14, 2013, 9:28:44 AM5/14/13
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"ALL age-related epithelial cancers are a vitamin D deficiency
disease. And, I do NOT mind saying so. :)"

Nope.

"ALL that the Science Psychos have to offer on these ngs is a pack of lies
and their silence on important health issues."

Hmmm, then the wing nut will in the next breath use some science based
study to support his rant, go figure.

vittyguy

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May 14, 2013, 9:30:30 AM5/14/13
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Sad to hear, what relevance to nutrition?

John H. Gohde

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May 14, 2013, 10:02:55 AM5/14/13
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On May 14, 9:30 am, vitty guy wrote:

> Sad to hear, what relevance to nutrition?

THREAD Ngs: misc.health.alternative, sci.med, sci.med.nutrition,
talk.politics.medicine, sci.life-extension

ROFLOL

This Bozo asks: what relevance to nutrition?

I ask: What School did YOU go to?

vittyguy

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May 14, 2013, 11:23:44 AM5/14/13
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"This Bozo asks: what relevance to nutrition?

I ask: What School did YOU go to?"

All the news accounts speak of the rare genetic basis for the high risk for
breast and overy cancer. What relevance then for nutrition?

John H. Gohde

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May 14, 2013, 1:49:15 PM5/14/13
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What relevance is a Bozo?

None! So drop dead, and kindly be quick about it.

Bob Officer

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May 14, 2013, 5:23:38 PM5/14/13
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On 14 May 2013 13:28:44 GMT, in misc.health.alternative, vitty guy
wrote:
Thus his current residency in my bozo bin.
--
Bob Officer
"Whoops .... now where did I put that other braincell?
It make it very hard to work things out.

Oh, I'll check up my arse ...get back to ya."
carole hubbard in Message-ID: <f3b680d9-da69-4c7e...@y5g2000pbi.googlegroups.com>

John H. Gohde

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May 14, 2013, 6:01:50 PM5/14/13
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On May 14, 5:23 pm, Bob Officer <*.*@*.*> wrote:
> On 14 May 2013 13:28:44 GMT, in misc.health.alternative, vitty guy
> wrote:
>
> >"ALL age-related epithelial cancers are a vitamin D deficiency
> >disease.  And, I do NOT mind saying so.  :)"
>
> >Nope.
>
> >"ALL that the Science Psychos have to offer on these ngs is a pack of lies
> >and their silence on important health issues."
>
> >Hmmm, then the wing nut will in the next breath use some science based
> >study to support his rant, go figure.
>
> Thus his current residency in my bozo bin.
> --
> Bob Officer


Hello Bozo:

The joke is on YOU, courtesy of moi. :)

clark

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May 14, 2013, 6:20:41 PM5/14/13
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Bob officer puts your posts in the rubbish bin - I don't.
I bought some vitamin D tablets 200 x 1000IU and will take a couple a
day. See if I notice any difference in my gene expressions.

clark

Bob Officer

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May 14, 2013, 8:40:19 PM5/14/13
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carole, how would you know? Have you figured out how to do genetic
testing in your kitchen lab?

Did you know every time you post stupid things like that, you
embarrass your whole country.

Marcus Aurelius

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May 14, 2013, 9:35:39 PM5/14/13
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Thank you for the original post. I congratulate Mrs. Jolie for her
heroic decision to have a double mastectomy in order to forestall
the emotional, financial, and physical ravages of breast cancer that
were highly likely to develop given that she had the BRCA1 gene.
She sets the example for other similarly situated women who choose
life, their loved ones, and reason over the personal and familial
tragedies associated with breast cancer.
My mother died of breast cancer.

Woody

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May 14, 2013, 10:20:29 PM5/14/13
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On 5/14/2013 8:40 PM, Bob Officer wrote:
> On Wed, 15 May 2013 08:20:41 +1000, in misc.health.alternative, clark
> <.@.> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 14 May 2013 10:49:15 -0700 (PDT), "John H. Gohde"
>> <john.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On May 14, 11:23 am, vitty guy wrote:
>>>> "This Bozo asks: what relevance to nutrition?
>>>>
>>>> I ask: What School did YOU go to?"
>>>>
>>>> All the news accounts speak of the rare genetic basis for the high risk for
>>>> breast and overy cancer. What relevance then for nutrition?
>>>
>>> What relevance is a Bozo?
>>>
>>> None! So drop dead, and kindly be quick about it.
>>
>>
>> Bob officer puts your posts in the rubbish bin - I don't.
>> I bought some vitamin D tablets 200 x 1000IU and will take a couple a
>> day. See if I notice any difference in my gene expressions.
>>
>> clark
>
> carole, how would you know? Have you figured out how to do genetic
> testing in your kitchen lab?
>
> Did you know every time you post stupid things like that, you
> embarrass your whole country.

I wonder if she's ever been to Bondi Beach?

http://www.sydney-australia.biz/bondi/


At any rate, carole needs to get with the program.

http://itstopswithme.humanrights.gov.au/

--
"You're an idiot martin. Everybody knows chemo is part of the
cure process of allopathic medicine - ie cut, poison and burn,
stands for surgery, chemo and radiation." - carole hubbard
Message-ID: <ABZNq.1459$%E2....@viwinnwfe01.internal.bigpond.com>

John H. Gohde

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May 15, 2013, 4:37:27 AM5/15/13
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Your FAMILY has my condolences for being victims of the lies of
conventional medicine.

Rather than Jolie being heroic it tells me that the Quacks in
conventional medicine will do anything for money. But finally one
physician at least has been convicted of murder for performing really
sick abortions

Breast cancer is a vitamin D deficiency disease. Which in other words
means, breast cancer is extremely easy to prevent, for NEXT to no
money with a great deal of certainty.

http://tinyurl.com/ckzpks4

Here is an introductory article on How to Easily Prevent Most Breast
Cancer.

http://tinyurl.com/7b77fkp

ALL age-related epithelial cancers are a vitamin D deficiency
disease. And, I do NOT mind saying so. :)

ALL that the Science Psychos have to offer on these ngs is a pack of
lies and their silence on important health issues.

Please Science Psychos do yourselves in for the betterment of man and
woman kind.

LOL

YES, according to the insanity of the conventional medicine Quacks it
is perfectly okay for females to have their breasts cut off. But,
THESE women better not take vitamin D cause something bad might happen
to them.

John H. Gohde

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May 15, 2013, 5:19:42 AM5/15/13
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On May 14, 6:20 pm, clark <.@.> wrote:

> I bought some vitamin D tablets 200 x 1000IU and will take a couple a
> day. See if I notice any difference in my gene expressions.


I, myself, started out pretty much on the low end too. But, after a
while the honeymoon period wears off and it gets down to busy. Your
mood should improve within 30 days.

To me, my advanced age motivated moi to get my blood levels up as fast
as possible in order to avoid cancer. In short, I take D to prevent
cancer. ALL the other health benefits, merely come along with the
total package as nice extras.

Up the dosage a bit and your energy should improve.

Being on the high end blood level wise results in you being able to
feel it. It is not so much about how I feel, as it is a more a
phenomenon of how OTHER people will react to the new you. They seem
to think that being slightly hyper and full of energy as if you have
ADHD is an ABNORMAL condition.

The good thing about vitamin D is that no body can make any money off
of it. 5,000 IU a day can be had for less than ten cents a day. Add
in the cost of the first two blood tests, then the figure jumps to 50
cents a day. Once you figure out just how much D that you personally
should be taking by way of the blood testing those tests become pretty
much necessary.

Personally, I think all the uncertainly about how much D somebody
should be taking is grossly overdone for PC reasons. The primary
factor is obviously body weight. Extremely obese individuals will
need to be taking 10,000 IU a day. So will individuals with digestion
problems. Thus, individuals who are extremely short and low in body
weight would obviously need to be taking less. People should be
applying the same logic to ALL their vitamin supplements, yet the
vitamin D people are the ONLY ones playing up this issue.

I recommend 5,000 IU for a number of reasons. That dosage is ideal for
somebody weighing 150 pounds. There is the economy of sticking to one
pill size. It clearly indicates that the 400 IU dose, is positively
NOT what I am talking about. Finally, 60% of the people in the States
are overweight. Globally the obesity epidemic is just as bad, if NOT
worst thanks to the American food industry.

John H. Gohde

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May 15, 2013, 5:40:46 AM5/15/13
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On May 14, 6:20 pm, clark <.@.> wrote:
> I bought some vitamin D tablets 200 x 1000IU and will take a couple a
> day. See if I notice any difference in my gene expressions.
>
> clark


Oops ... I got the bit about taking vitamin D tests BACKWARDS.

It should have read as the following.

Once you figure out just how much D that you personally should be
taking by way of the blood testing those tests become pretty much
UNNECESSARY.

vittyguy

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May 15, 2013, 8:28:17 AM5/15/13
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"YES, according to the insanity of the conventional medicine Quacks it
is perfectly okay for females to have their breasts cut off. But,
THESE women better not take vitamin D cause something bad might happen
to them."

The risk for her before surgery with the demonstrated genetic mutation was
85 percent. It falls to less then 5 percent of the wider population after.

This is evidence based medicine, where is the same to show for this genetic
mutation that any other approach produces any result worth the gamble?
There is none, only quack folk tales.

Good we have such as quackwatch to keep tabs on the folk tales.

John H. Gohde

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May 15, 2013, 8:35:49 AM5/15/13
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109,000 vicinity of conventional medicine dye each year from properly
prescribed and administered prescription medications.

New born babies are aborted / murdered before they pass completely out
of the birth canal. Fear not, a physician has finally been convicted
of first degree murder on that issue. :)

Better for women to get their breasts cut off, for men to have their
prostate removed, and for both genders to have sections of their colon
cut out THEN for people to prevent cancer by taking REASONABLE amounts
of vitamin D. Physicians don't want something bad to happen to the
public, after all. :(

ROFLOL

If you believe that load of bull, then you fools have my condolences.

Clayton

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May 15, 2013, 12:25:58 PM5/15/13
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Ok, I'll start taking 5,000IU a day - that's only 5 little tablets -
they're really tiny - 200 tablets for $20, so that's 10c per tablet,
50c per day, $3.50 per week. I suppose bob will say that's too much -
but OTOH when a person gets cancer its ok to spend thousands on chemo,
he doesn't have an issue with that - but just on preventative health.

I wouldn't listen to anything bob officer says. I don't know why he
wastes his time, there's nothing showing any sort of independent
thought processes there - everything he says is all just straight from
the pharmaceutical files, ie pharma-speak.

We've heard it all before bob.

Look at the top of the page on web-based mha - notice the words
"Description: Alternative, complementary and holistic health care."


Clayton

vittyguy

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May 15, 2013, 2:04:26 PM5/15/13
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>> "YES, according to the insanity of the conventional medicine Quacks it
>> is perfectly okay for females to have their breasts cut off. =A0But,
>> THESE women better not take vitamin D cause something bad might happen
>> to them."
>>
>> The risk for her before surgery with the demonstrated genetic mutation wa=
>s
>> 85 percent. =A0It falls to less then 5 percent of the wider population af=
>ter.
>>
>> This is evidence based medicine, where is the same to show for this genet=
>ic
>> mutation that any other approach produces any result worth the gamble?
>> There is none, only quack folk tales.
>>
>> Good we have such as quackwatch to keep tabs on the folk tales.
>
>
>
>109,000 vicinity of conventional medicine dye each year from properly
>prescribed and administered prescription medications.
>
>New born babies are aborted / murdered before they pass completely out
>of the birth canal. Fear not, a physician has finally been convicted
>of first degree murder on that issue. :)
>
>Better for women to get their breasts cut off, for men to have their
>prostate removed, and for both genders to have sections of their colon
>cut out THEN for people to prevent cancer by taking REASONABLE amounts
>of vitamin D. Physicians don't want something bad to happen to the
>public, after all. :(
>
>ROFLOL
>
>If you believe that load of bull, then you fools have my condolences.

Hmmm, the good old strawman argument. A search on quackwatch shows a very
positive set of hvit d and its on the benefits of its proper intake and
supplementation where called for:

http://www.quackwatch.org/search/webglimpse.cgi?ID=1&query=vitamin+d&othersite=

So our resident bitter old man to whom the world did not come running nor
wikipedia swoon has found a partner in the common sense idea of proper vit
d levels. It's the folk at quackwatch don't ya know.

John H. Gohde

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May 15, 2013, 3:21:18 PM5/15/13
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> http://www.quackwatch.org/search/webglimpse.cgi?ID=1&query=vitamin+d&...
>
> So our resident bitter old man to whom the world did not come running nor
> wikipedia swoon has found a partner in the common sense idea of proper vit
> d levels.  It's the folk at quackwatch don't ya know.


LOL

Would YOU mind repeating your crap, except this time in plain English?

Bob Officer

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May 15, 2013, 10:39:50 PM5/15/13
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On 15 May 2013 18:04:26 GMT, in misc.health.alternative, vitty guy
wrote:

>
>>> "YES, according to the insanity of the conventional medicine Quacks it
>>> is perfectly okay for females to have their breasts cut off. =A0But,
>>> THESE women better not take vitamin D cause something bad might happen
>>> to them."
>>>
>>> The risk for her before surgery with the demonstrated genetic mutation wa=
>>s
>>> 85 percent. =A0It falls to less then 5 percent of the wider population af=
>>ter.
>>>
>>> This is evidence based medicine, where is the same to show for this genet=
>>ic
>>> mutation that any other approach produces any result worth the gamble?
>>> There is none, only quack folk tales.
>>>
>>> Good we have such as quackwatch to keep tabs on the folk tales.
>>
>>
>>
>>109,000 vicinity of conventional medicine dye each year from properly
>>prescribed and administered prescription medications.

"dye"? What color?


>>New born babies are aborted / murdered before they pass completely out
>>of the birth canal. Fear not, a physician has finally been convicted
>>of first degree murder on that issue. :)
>>
>>Better for women to get their breasts cut off, for men to have their
>>prostate removed, and for both genders to have sections of their colon
>>cut out THEN for people to prevent cancer by taking REASONABLE amounts
>>of vitamin D. Physicians don't want something bad to happen to the
>>public, after all. :(
>>
>>ROFLOL
>>
>>If you believe that load of bull, then you fools have my condolences.
>
>Hmmm, the good old strawman argument. A search on quackwatch shows a very
>positive set of hvit d and its on the benefits of its proper intake and
>supplementation where called for:
>
>http://www.quackwatch.org/search/webglimpse.cgi?ID=1&query=vitamin+d&othersite=
>
>So our resident bitter old man to whom the world did not come running nor
>wikipedia swoon has found a partner in the common sense idea of proper vit
>d levels. It's the folk at quackwatch don't ya know.

Here is a case of an overdose of Vit D. Gull null self inflected
poisoning.

http://www.quackwatch.org/04ConsumerEducation/null.html
<cite>

In April 2010, Null sued the manufacturer of Gary Null's Ultimate
Power Meal. The complaint alleged:

The product was produced with 1,000 times as much vitamin D as it
should have. By consuming two servings a day, Null consumed 60
million IU during the month he used the product.

Null began having severe symptoms in December 2009 and believes he
nearly died from kidney toxicity.

It took three months to "get his blood seemingly back to where he
was able to function, but he continued to occasionally urinate
blood."

While he was ill, Null "had dozens of his customers calling him,
as well as threatening and condemning him," and six users of the
product were hospitalized with severe kidney damage [17].

During the next few days, Null's Web sites posted at least three
reactions to publicity about the suit. One said that he was
"completely and totally healthy and everything is fine." Another said
that "none of the retail product reached the market" and he had
"returned to complete health." But after a Los Angeles Times blog
noted that these statements contradicted what the lawsuit said, Null
replaced them with one that said he was "feeling substantially
better." Two weeks later, he filed an amended complaint that omitted
all of the allegations related to his own alleged illness and claimed
only that his company had suffered damage to its reputation [18].
Since then, three lawsuits have been filed against Null, his company,
and the suppliers. Two were filed by product users who became ill
[19, 20], and the third was filed by the estate of a woman whose
illness led to death [21]. The first two suits were settled with
undisclosed terms. It may be interesting to see whether the remaining
suit uncovers anything about Null's credentials.


17. Complaint.
(http://www.casewatch.org/civil/null/complaint.shtml)
Gary Null and Gary Null & Associates against Triarco Industries, Inc.
New York State Supreme Court Case No. 10601070, filed April 26, 2010.
18. Amended complaint.
(http://www.casewatch.org/civil/null/amended_complaint.pdf) Gary Null
& Associates against Triarco Industries, Inc. New York State Supreme
Court Case No. 10601070, filed May 10, 2010.
19. Verified complaint.
(http://www.casewatch.org/civil/null/schmidt/complaint.shtml)
William Schmidt and Jennifer Maslowski against Archon Vitamin Corp.,
Triarco Industries, Gary Null & Associates, Inc., and Gary Null,
individually. New York State Supreme Court, filed May 10, 2010.
20. Verified complaint.
(http://www.casewatch.org/civil/null/amato/complaint.pdf)
Patricia Amato against Archon Vitamin Corp., Triarco Industries, Gary
Null & Associates, Inc., and Gary Null, individually. New York State
Supreme Court, filed June 8, 2010.
21.Complaint.
(http://www.casewatch.org/civil/null/shulman/complaint.pdf)
Jack A. Shulman individually and as executor of the estate of Helen
K. Shulman against Triarco Industries, Archon Vitamin Corp, Gary Null
& Associates, Inc., Gary Null's Uptown Whole Foods, Inc., Gary Null
Consulting, Inc. and Gary Null, individually. New York State Supreme
Court, filed Dec 29, 2011.
</cite>

John H. Gohde

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May 16, 2013, 6:03:35 AM5/16/13
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> >http://www.quackwatch.org/search/webglimpse.cgi?ID=1&query=vitamin+d&...
Bob is like the Republican Party. He actually thinks that he can be a
prolific liar while insulting virtually everybody and still win the
public over to his side.

I do NOT care about the babble of liars. :)

John H. Gohde

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May 16, 2013, 9:19:25 AM5/16/13
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On May 14, 7:39 am, "John H. Gohde" <john.h.go...@gmail.com> wrote:
Any Day with Vitamin D is a Good Day!
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