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PeterB - Original

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Dec 23, 2009, 1:04:08 PM12/23/09
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No importation of drugs at cheaper prices despite the fact that many
manufactured drugs come from other countries already. Their cry about
"safety" is pure deception, and Congress knew it. If safety was the
issue, the entire FDA drug approval process would be tossed into the
can tomorrow. Conservative estimates are that 100,000 people die in
the USA annually due to *properly* prescribed and dispensed drugs,
with some estimates over one million, so this just reinforces the need
to find the appropriate natural medicine remedies that make drugs
unnecessary.

http://www.newser.com/story/76291/obama-helps-kill-cheaper-drug-imports.html

Peter B

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Dec 23, 2009, 2:32:31 PM12/23/09
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"PeterB - Original" <p...@mytrashmail.com> wrote in message
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> No importation of drugs at cheaper prices despite the fact that many
> manufactured drugs come from other countries already. Their cry about
> "safety" is pure deception, and Congress knew it. If safety was the
> issue, the entire FDA drug approval process would be tossed into the
> can tomorrow. Conservative estimates are that 100,000 people die in
> the USA annually due to *properly* prescribed and dispensed drugs,
> with some estimates over one million, so this just reinforces the need
> to find the appropriate natural medicine remedies that make drugs
> unnecessary.
>

The author of the above shows clear bias.


Herman Rubin

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Dec 24, 2009, 12:38:14 PM12/24/09
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In article <4e923e45-6198-4335...@d20g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>,

>http://www.newser.com/story/76291/obama-helps-kill-cheaper-drug-imports.html

The FDA realizes that there is no such thing as a safe,
effective, drug. In my reasoned opinion as a statistician,
I do not believe they are balancing the two properly, and I
do not think the present go/nogo system is even correct.

Also, the pharmaceutical companies need to recoup the billions
invested in the testing involved in bringing new drugs to
market. The term "billions" is definitely correct.

And there have been some phony drugs found in imports.
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are those of the Statistics Department or of Purdue University.
Herman Rubin, Department of Statistics, Purdue University
hru...@stat.purdue.edu Phone: (765)494-6054 FAX: (765)494-0558

Bert Hyman

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Dec 24, 2009, 12:44:28 PM12/24/09
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PeterB - Original <p...@mytrashmail.com> wrote:

> No importation of drugs at cheaper prices despite the fact that many
> manufactured drugs come from other countries already.

Only Congress has the actual power to "screw" America, and they've been
doing it for decades.

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Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN be...@iphouse.com

PeterB - Original

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Dec 24, 2009, 3:06:23 PM12/24/09
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On Dec 24, 12:44 pm, Bert Hyman <b...@iphouse.com> wrote:
> Innews:4e923e45-6198-4335...@d20g2000yqh.googlegroups.com

> PeterB - Original <p...@mytrashmail.com> wrote:
>
> > No importation of drugs at cheaper prices despite the fact that many
> > manufactured drugs come from other countries already.
>
> Only Congress has the actual power to "screw" America, and they've been
> doing it for decades.

People get screwed when big money interests buys influence. The love
of money is the root of all evil, and it extends far beyond
Congress.

> Bert Hyman      St. Paul, MN    b...@iphouse.com

Bert Hyman

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Dec 24, 2009, 3:22:18 PM12/24/09
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PeterB - Original <p...@mytrashmail.com> wrote:

> On Dec 24, 12:44�pm, Bert Hyman <b...@iphouse.com> wrote:
>> Innews:4e923e45-6198-4335...@d20g2000yqh.googlegroups.c

>> om PeterB - Original <p...@mytrashmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > No importation of drugs at cheaper prices despite the fact that
>> > many manufactured drugs come from other countries already.
>>
>> Only Congress has the actual power to "screw" America, and they've
>> been doing it for decades.
>
> People get screwed when big money interests buys influence.

You can't buy what's not for sale.

Corrupt politicians sell their votes.

> The love of money is the root of all evil,

I earn my money honestly. Presumably, you do not.

> and it extends far beyond Congress.


--
Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN be...@iphouse.com

PeterB - Original

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Dec 24, 2009, 9:46:03 PM12/24/09
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On Dec 24, 3:22 pm, Bert Hyman <b...@iphouse.com> wrote:
> Innews:c7f0d9b3-5dd8-46ef...@22g2000yqr.googlegroups.com

> PeterB - Original <p...@mytrashmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Dec 24, 12:44 pm, Bert Hyman <b...@iphouse.com> wrote:
> >> Innews:4e923e45-6198-4335...@d20g2000yqh.googlegroups.c
> >> om PeterB - Original <p...@mytrashmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> > No importation of drugs at cheaper prices despite the fact that
> >> > many manufactured drugs come from other countries already.
>
> >> Only Congress has the actual power to "screw" America, and they've
> >> been doing it for decades.
>
> > People get screwed when big money interests buys influence.  
>
> You can't buy what's not for sale.

That's why *both* parties share the blame.

> Corrupt politicians sell their votes.
>
> > The love of money is the root of all evil,
>
> I earn my money honestly. Presumably, you do not.

I didn't ask how you earned your money, did I?

> > and it extends far beyond Congress.
>
> --

> Bert Hyman      St. Paul, MN    b...@iphouse.com

Bert Hyman

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Dec 25, 2009, 9:44:34 AM12/25/09
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In news:af027ac5-b221-4d7b...@p8g2000yqb.googlegroups.com

PeterB - Original <p...@mytrashmail.com> wrote:

>> m PeterB - Original <p...@mytrashmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > The love of money is the root of all evil,
>>
>> I earn my money honestly. Presumably, you do not.
>
> I didn't ask how you earned your money, did I?

The only reason you might think that "The love of money is the root of
all evil" is that your own association with money is tainted.

People who obtain their money by honest means have no such problem.

--
Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN be...@iphouse.com

PeterB - Original

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Dec 26, 2009, 12:23:18 AM12/26/09
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On Dec 25, 9:44 am, Bert Hyman <b...@iphouse.com> wrote:
> Innews:af027ac5-b221-4d7b...@p8g2000yqb.googlegroups.com

> PeterB - Original <p...@mytrashmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Dec 24, 3:22 pm, Bert Hyman <b...@iphouse.com> wrote:
> >> Innews:c7f0d9b3-5dd8-46ef...@22g2000yqr.googlegroups.co
> >> m PeterB - Original <p...@mytrashmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> > The love of money is the root of all evil,
>
> >> I earn my money honestly. Presumably, you do not.
>
> > I didn't ask how you earned your money, did I?
>
> The only reason you might think that "The love of money is the root of
> all evil" is that your own association with money is tainted.

Biblical teaching is a god given truth by which men should live in
order to be free.

> People who obtain their money by honest means have no such problem.

Affection, not honesty, was the subject of this scripture. As in,
"where your treasure is, there will your heart be also."

Peter B

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Dec 26, 2009, 12:58:41 AM12/26/09
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"PeterB - Original" <p...@mytrashmail.com> wrote in message
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On Dec 25, 9:44 am, Bert Hyman <b...@iphouse.com> wrote:
> Innews:af027ac5-b221-4d7b...@p8g2000yqb.googlegroups.com
> PeterB - Original <p...@mytrashmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Dec 24, 3:22 pm, Bert Hyman <b...@iphouse.com> wrote:
> >> Innews:c7f0d9b3-5dd8-46ef...@22g2000yqr.googlegroups.co
> >> m PeterB - Original <p...@mytrashmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> > The love of money is the root of all evil,
>
> >> I earn my money honestly. Presumably, you do not.
>
> > I didn't ask how you earned your money, did I?
>
> The only reason you might think that "The love of money is the root of
> all evil" is that your own association with money is tainted.

Biblical teaching is a god given truth by which men should live in
order to be free.

=====================================================
Improper punctuation, tell it that to the slaves of the Bible.

> People who obtain their money by honest means have no such problem.

Affection, not honesty, was the subject of this scripture. As in,
"where your treasure is, there will your heart be also."

=====================================================
Close but no cigar.


PeterB - Original

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Dec 26, 2009, 1:25:28 AM12/26/09
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On Dec 26, 12:58 am, "Peter B" <origin...@frag.com> wrote:
> "PeterB - Original" <p...@mytrashmail.com> wrote in messagenews:d101ab24-65ca-42c4...@s31g2000yqs.googlegroups.com...

> On Dec 25, 9:44 am, Bert Hyman <b...@iphouse.com> wrote:
>
> > Innews:af027ac5-b221-4d7b...@p8g2000yqb.googlegroups.com
> > PeterB - Original <p...@mytrashmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Dec 24, 3:22 pm, Bert Hyman <b...@iphouse.com> wrote:
> > >> Innews:c7f0d9b3-5dd8-46ef...@22g2000yqr.googlegroups.co
> > >> m PeterB - Original <p...@mytrashmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >> > The love of money is the root of all evil,
>
> > >> I earn my money honestly. Presumably, you do not.
>
> > > I didn't ask how you earned your money, did I?
>
> > The only reason you might think that "The love of money is the root of
> > all evil" is that your own association with money is tainted.
>
> Biblical teaching is a god given truth by which men should live in
> order to be free.
> =====================================================
> Improper punctuation, tell it that to the slaves of the Bible.

You believe people are enslaved by the Bible?

> > People who obtain their money by honest means have no such problem.
>
> Affection, not honesty, was the subject of this scripture.  As in,
> "where your treasure is, there will your heart be also."
> =====================================================
> Close but no cigar.

Good, I don't smoke.

Peter B

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Dec 26, 2009, 2:42:55 AM12/26/09
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"PeterB - Original" <p...@mytrashmail.com> wrote in message
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On Dec 26, 12:58 am, "Peter B" <origin...@frag.com> wrote:
> "PeterB - Original" <p...@mytrashmail.com> wrote in
> messagenews:d101ab24-65ca-42c4...@s31g2000yqs.googlegroups.com...
> On Dec 25, 9:44 am, Bert Hyman <b...@iphouse.com> wrote:
>
> > Innews:af027ac5-b221-4d7b...@p8g2000yqb.googlegroups.com
> > PeterB - Original <p...@mytrashmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Dec 24, 3:22 pm, Bert Hyman <b...@iphouse.com> wrote:
> > >> Innews:c7f0d9b3-5dd8-46ef...@22g2000yqr.googlegroups.co
> > >> m PeterB - Original <p...@mytrashmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >> > The love of money is the root of all evil,
>
> > >> I earn my money honestly. Presumably, you do not.
>
> > > I didn't ask how you earned your money, did I?
>
> > The only reason you might think that "The love of money is the root
> > of
> > all evil" is that your own association with money is tainted.
>
> Biblical teaching is a god given truth by which men should live in
> order to be free.
> =====================================================
> Improper punctuation, tell it that to the slaves of the Bible.

You believe people are enslaved by the Bible?

======================================================
Paul said he was, but you misread my sentance as you usually do. Feel
free to try a different understanding, if necessary substitute the word
in for of. I realize the great difficulties you have in comprehension.

> > People who obtain their money by honest means have no such problem.
>
> Affection, not honesty, was the subject of this scripture. As in,
> "where your treasure is, there will your heart be also."
> =====================================================
> Close but no cigar.

Good, I don't smoke.

======================================================
You could have fooled me, I thought you did the funny stuff. Especially
since it fits your mold for "natural" pain relievers.


PeterB - Original

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Dec 26, 2009, 12:22:48 PM12/26/09
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On Dec 26, 2:42 am, "Peter B" <origin...@frag.com> wrote:
> "PeterB - Original" <p...@mytrashmail.com> wrote in messagenews:0ebd3296-0467-43a7...@e37g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...

> On Dec 26, 12:58 am, "Peter B" <origin...@frag.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "PeterB - Original" <p...@mytrashmail.com> wrote in
> > messagenews:d101ab24-65ca-42c4...@s31g2000yqs.googlegroups.com...
> > On Dec 25, 9:44 am, Bert Hyman <b...@iphouse.com> wrote:
>
> > > Innews:af027ac5-b221-4d7b...@p8g2000yqb.googlegroups.com
> > > PeterB - Original <p...@mytrashmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Dec 24, 3:22 pm, Bert Hyman <b...@iphouse.com> wrote:
> > > >> Innews:c7f0d9b3-5dd8-46ef...@22g2000yqr.googlegroups.co
> > > >> m PeterB - Original <p...@mytrashmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > >> > The love of money is the root of all evil,
>
> > > >> I earn my money honestly. Presumably, you do not.
>
> > > > I didn't ask how you earned your money, did I?
>
> > > The only reason you might think that "The love of money is the root
> > > of
> > > all evil" is that your own association with money is tainted.
>
> > Biblical teaching is a god given truth by which men should live in
> > order to be free.
> > =====================================================
> > Improper punctuation, tell it that to the slaves of the Bible.
>
> You believe people are enslaved by the Bible?
> ======================================================
> Paul said he was, but you misread my sentance as you usually do.

Then learn to express what you mean.

> Feel
> free to try a different understanding, if necessary substitute the word
> in for of. I realize the great difficulties you have in comprehension.

My comprehension is fine, it's your boneheaded points that make no
sense.

> > > People who obtain their money by honest means have no such problem.
>
> > Affection, not honesty, was the subject of this scripture. As in,
> > "where your treasure is, there will your heart be also."
> > =====================================================
> > Close but no cigar.
>
> Good, I don't smoke.
> ======================================================
> You could have fooled me, I thought you did the funny stuff. Especially
> since it fits your mold for "natural" pain relievers.

Fools are easily fooled. You're a fool.

Peter B

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"PeterB - Original" <p...@mytrashmail.com> wrote in message
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=======================================================
I did, I just don't normally write to the lowest common denominator, in
this case I modified it for you in the holiday spirit.

> Feel
> free to try a different understanding, if necessary substitute the
> word
> in for of. I realize the great difficulties you have in comprehension.

My comprehension is fine, it's your boneheaded points that make no
sense.

=========================================================
Your original statement made no sense, most likely it is why you had
such problems following this thread of yours. Your subject was to be
"free".

> > > People who obtain their money by honest means have no such
> > > problem.
>
> > Affection, not honesty, was the subject of this scripture. As in,
> > "where your treasure is, there will your heart be also."
> > =====================================================
> > Close but no cigar.
>
> Good, I don't smoke.
> ======================================================
> You could have fooled me, I thought you did the funny stuff.
> Especially
> since it fits your mold for "natural" pain relievers.

Fools are easily fooled. You're a fool.

=======================================================
Hardly. You are the one who gets sucked into these off shoot web sites.


PeterB - Original

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Dec 26, 2009, 2:34:20 PM12/26/09
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On Dec 26, 2:02 pm, "Peter B" <origin...@frag.com> wrote:
>
> > > > The only reason you might think that "The love of money is the
> > > > root of all evil" is that your own association with money is tainted.
>
> > > Biblical teaching is a god given truth by which men should live in
> > > order to be free.
> > > =====================================================
> > > Improper punctuation, tell it that to the slaves of the Bible.
>
> > You believe people are enslaved by the Bible?
> > ======================================================
> > Paul said he was, but you misread my sentance as you usually do.
>
> Then learn to express what you mean.
> =======================================================
> I did, I just don't normally write to the lowest common denominator, in
> this case I modified it for you in the holiday spirit.

You are only good at one thing. Meaningless text.

Peter B

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"PeterB - Original" <p...@mytrashmail.com> wrote in message
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======================================================
Here is another example of where you "rolled back" the posts,
eliminating the conversation. (not that you ever listen)

You should stop going to the Dr. and being a hypocrite. Drop your meds,
and treatments, you make yourself look bad. Insurance records out your
truths.


PeterB - Original

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Dec 28, 2009, 5:26:23 PM12/28/09
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On Dec 27, 1:42 am, "Peter B" <origin...@frag.com> wrote:
> "PeterB - Original" <p...@mytrashmail.com> wrote in messagenews:e380a4eb-72f4-4965...@d20g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...

> On Dec 26, 2:02 pm, "Peter B" <origin...@frag.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > > > > The only reason you might think that "The love of money is the
> > > > > root of all evil" is that your own association with money is
> > > > > tainted.
>
> > > > Biblical teaching is a god given truth by which men should live in
> > > > order to be free.
> > > > =====================================================
> > > > Improper punctuation, tell it that to the slaves of the Bible.
>
> > > You believe people are enslaved by the Bible?
> > > ======================================================
> > > Paul said he was, but you misread my sentance as you usually do.
>
> > Then learn to express what you mean.
> > =======================================================
> > I did, I just don't normally write to the lowest common denominator,
> > in
> > this case I modified it for you in the holiday spirit.
>
> You are only good at one thing.  Meaningless text.
> ======================================================
> Here is another example of where you "rolled back" the posts,
> eliminating the conversation. (not that you ever listen)

What you bang out each day on behalf of your sponsors is not a
conversation, dimwit.

> You should stop going to the Dr. and being a hypocrite. Drop your meds,
> and treatments, you make yourself look bad. Insurance records out your
> truths.

Say hi to your sponsors for me, idiot spook.

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med/msg/f569f86c8ed22f4e

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