The most groteqsue historical phenomenon is happening in fromt of our eyes and nobody seems to find it outrageous
anal...@hotmail.com
places.
It claims it has "enemies" in the territories overflown by these
aircraft ("enemies" who are not able to shoot these aircraft out of
the sky) - and these planes fire on targets determined to be
"enemies" by personnel in California or Arizona or wherever.
Thsi can only be called extermination - it is not war - somebody who
is completely out of harm's way 10,000 miles away is using machines to
kill without any forewarning human beings going about their life in
the land they were born in.
Westerners have fought similar "wars" - (Gatling guns against spears
etc.) against the third world and have also visitied technology shocks
in war against fellow Westerners (the Brits at Agincourt against the
French etc.) in the past.
Weapons research in the US is carrying "total war" to levels
unprecendented in human history. The US addiction to violence and
killing far exceeds anything exhibited by by Genghis Khan, Attila, the
Nazis, the Japanese etc. - but nobdy "looks the part" (with the
exception of Dick Cheney). People behind this garagantuan killing
machine don't seem to have cruel instincts exceeding those of average
poeple - they seem to be regular folks who have chosen killing as a
career ("nothing personal"). A mass killer like Schwartzkopf might be
teaching sunday school now - and have nothing on his conscience.
Werner
wrote:
> The US has pilotless aircraft flying over Afghanistan and other
> places.
>
> It claims it has "enemies" in the territories overflown by these
> aircraft ("enemies" who are not able to shoot these aircraft out of
> the sky) - and these planes fire on targets determined to be
> "enemies" by personnel in California or Arizona or wherever.
>
Odd claim. The whole point is NOT getting shot down. How do you think
cities like Dresden and Hiroshima were leveled?
charles q
wrote:
In war as I experienced myself in nam innoccents will die.It's the
nature of the beast no matter if it's done from right there or by
someone in another country controlling the drones.None of this would
even be happening if Obooboo had not sent in thousands of troops which
he had promised not to do but rather perhaps only 1 brigade if
elected.He destroyed our whole agenda as to why we were their in the
first place.When all we had were special forces and other black ops
running the show things were going great as far as our main
onbjective.Bush had no intentions of sending any largewr group there
as he knew it was a major tactical mistake.Obooboo who knows
absolutely nothing about anything let his handlers tell him what to do
whcih was a major mistake on his part.Now our best bet is to pull out
and cut our losses and lives as we can no longer have even a glimmer
of hope of defeating the taliban anymore again thanks to oboobo and
the current puppet admimn
anal...@hotmail.com
Reducing one's risk at the expense of the enemy can be carried out to
a point that is beyond the pale (the pale as accepted until now by all
countries except the US and the Zionist entity).
Post world war II US warfighting nethods are ALREADY inhuman and
beyond all norms observed so far in warfare - it is Russian doctine to
attack the US mainland with nuclear weapons if the US were to use on
Russian forces the so called precision weapons it has been using
lately on defenseless third world counties.
I would call dispersing uisng depleted Uranium weapons even in urban
areas in Iraq, Kuwait ( an "ally") and Serbia something unimaginbly
horrific (you kill people with traditional high explosives and after
they are dead and buried its over - but this crud can harm future
generations - and one thought agent Orange was bad enough) - and yet
the US is blithely prepared to go on devastating more and more of the
earth with this stuff.
What is particularly sad is that stuff is waste from concentrating
Uranium for bombs - what an astounding way to dispose of hazardous
waste - use it to kill people in other countries and disperse it into
their living habitat.
Michael Price
wrote:
> On Dec 19, 4:02 pm, Werner <whetz...@mac.com> wrote:
>
> > On Dec 19, 1:58 pm, "analys...@hotmail.com" <analys...@hotmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > > The US has pilotless aircraft flying over Afghanistan and other
> > > places.
>
> > > It claims it has "enemies" in the territories overflown by these
> > > aircraft ("enemies" who are not able to shoot these aircraft out of
> > > the sky) - and these planes fire on targets determined to be
> > > "enemies" by personnel in California or Arizona or wherever.
>
> > > Thsi can only be called extermination -...
>
> > Odd claim. The whole point is NOT getting shot down. How do you think
> > cities like Dresden and Hiroshima were leveled?
>
> Reducing one's risk at the expense of the enemy can be carried out to
> a point that is beyond the pale (the pale as accepted until now by all
> countries except the US and the Zionist entity).
So it's OK to kill 600,000 German civilians as long as some poor
saps are
in the plane doing it? Wow, worshiper of pain alert.
>
> Post world war II US warfighting nethods are ALREADY inhuman and
> beyond all norms observed so far in warfare - it is Russian doctine to
> attack the US mainland with nuclear weapons if the US were to use on
> Russian forces the so called precision weapons it has been using
> lately on defenseless third world counties.
I very much doubt that is true. A nuclear response to a
conventional attack that the Russians could probably fight off
conventionally would be senseless. If the Russians were losing badly
they might.
>
> I would call dispersing uisng depleted Uranium weapons even in urban
> areas in Iraq, Kuwait ( an "ally") and Serbia something unimaginbly
> horrific (you kill people with traditional high explosives and after
> they are dead and buried its over - but this crud can harm future
> generations - and one thought agent Orange was bad enough) - and yet
> the US is blithely prepared to go on devastating more and more of the
> earth with this stuff.
>
I'd rather have my city hit with the occasionally DU round that
have what happened in Chechnya happen to it. Grozny ceased to
exist. What the yanks are doing is bad but it's not the worst thing
that's ever happened in war, hell it's probably not the worst thing
that they've done in war.
anal...@hotmail.com
> On Dec 20, 9:25 am, "analys...@hotmail.com" <analys...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Dec 19, 4:02 pm, Werner <whetz...@mac.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Dec 19, 1:58 pm, "analys...@hotmail.com" <analys...@hotmail.com>
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > The US has pilotless aircraft flying over Afghanistan and other
> > > > places.
>
> > > > It claims it has "enemies" in the territories overflown by these
> > > > aircraft ("enemies" who are not able to shoot these aircraft out of
> > > > the sky) - and these planes fire on targets determined to be
> > > > "enemies" by personnel in California or Arizona or wherever.
>
> > > > Thsi can only be called extermination -...
>
> > > Odd claim. The whole point is NOT getting shot down. How do you think
> > > cities like Dresden and Hiroshima were leveled?
>
> > Reducing one's risk at the expense of the enemy can be carried out to
> > a point that is beyond the pale (the pale as accepted until now by all
> > countries except the US and the Zionist entity).
>
> So it's OK to kill 600,000 German civilians as long as some poor
> saps are
> in the plane doing it? Wow, worshiper of pain alert.
>
No - humankind has continually fought wars, but there has also been a
continuous thread of human thought limiting acceptable ways of
warfare.
The United States of America and the Zionist entity have been
vigorously expanding what they consider acceptable warfare methods to
be used against others by them while hypocritically bleating about
what they consider unacceptable methods used against them.
War isn't just a shooting war - it is threats, intimidation, internal
subversion, economic expoloitation etc.
The US and the Zionist entity are so supremely sure that they want to
practice unfair political and economic polices agaunst the the rest of
the world that they are unequivocally committed to an open-ended
qualitative and quantitative pursuit of military superiority in order
to enforce something thats against basic human nature..
>
>
> > Post world war II US warfighting nethods are ALREADY inhuman and
> > beyond all norms observed so far in warfare - it is Russian doctine to
> > attack the US mainland with nuclear weapons if the US were to use on
> > Russian forces the so called precision weapons it has been using
> > lately on defenseless third world counties.
>
> I very much doubt that is true. A nuclear response to a
> conventional attack that the Russians could probably fight off
> conventionally would be senseless. If the Russians were losing badly
> they might.
>
> > I would call dispersing uisng depleted Uranium weapons even in urban
> > areas in Iraq, Kuwait ( an "ally") and Serbia something unimaginbly
> > horrific (you kill people with traditional high explosives and after
> > they are dead and buried its over - but this crud can harm future
> > generations - and one thought agent Orange was bad enough) - and yet
> > the US is blithely prepared to go on devastating more and more of the
> > earth with this stuff.
>
> I'd rather have my city hit with the occasionally DU round that
> have what happened in Chechnya happen to it. Grozny ceased to
> exist. What the yanks are doing is bad but it's not the worst thing
> that's ever happened in war, hell it's probably not the worst thing
> that they've done in war.
>
>
>
> > What is particularly sad is that stuff is waste from concentrating
> > Uranium for bombs - what an astounding way to dispose of hazardous
> > waste - use it to kill people in other countries and disperse it into
> > their living habitat.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Werner
wrote:
> ...
>
> The US and the Zionist entity are so supremely sure that they want to
> practice unfair political and economic polices agaunst the the rest of
> the world that they are unequivocally committed to an open-ended
> qualitative and quantitative pursuit of military superiority in order
> to enforce something thats against basic human nature..
>
>
Fair is a tricky notion. Human nature tends to employ political and
economic policies to impose the notion of humans with different
flavors of that notion. The winner decides what's fair and the loser
must accept it. If Dresden had not been leveled by bombers it would
have been places like London and German would have been the world's
common language. If Hiroshima were not evaporated, FDR would have been
tried and hung for war crimes. That is human nature.
anal...@hotmail.com
Well, thats mostly true but one has to factor in what the transgressor
already had when he waged aggression on others.
The Continental United States (setting aside the genocides that
happened to make them what they are today) are plentiful in resources
(fertile land, an inventive and resourceful people, enormous reserves
of coal, gas, Uranium and shale oil and significant concentrations of
many minerals) and America's nuclear arsenal and generally violent and
aggressive civilian population ensures that it is immune form attack
as long as it limits its aggression within bounds (for all the
propaganda, there is no dount that 9-11 was pay back from a weak enemy
for the countless gratuitous acts of aggression carried out by the US
and the Zionist entity) .
England was a crowded little island that expanded and ended up with
the British Empire that did almost as much good as harm. Hitler of
course claimed not to have Lebensraum.
What excuse does the US have to garrison the whole world, be
continuosuly engaged in killing (via unmanned aircraft, missiles,
manned aircraft, Americans wearing military unoform and private
assassins) in all parts of the globe, militarize space and the oceans
and assiduously turn every advance in technology into a means of
killing?
Werner
wrote:
> ...
>
> What excuse does the US have to garrison the whole world, be
> continuosuly engaged in killing (via unmanned aircraft, missiles,
> manned aircraft, Americans wearing military unoform and private
> assassins) in all parts of the globe, militarize space and the oceans
> and assiduously turn every advance in technology into a means of
> killing?
It wont happen much longer. The country is bankrupt. Someone else will
take over the killing.
pork...@yahoo.ca
wrote:
You better get a better chronological order of your WW2 facts. Dresden
was bombed AFTER the Lutwaffe was defeated and FDR was a deadman
already when Harry Truman gave the word.
luke pearson
Hash: SHA1
just doing my bit to feed the troll
On 12/19/2009 12:58 PM, anal...@hotmail.com wrote:
> The US has pilotless aircraft flying over Afghanistan and other
> places.
yeah, this is a good thing. less risk for us
>
> Thsi can only be called extermination - it is not war - somebody who
> is completely out of harm's way 10,000 miles away is using machines to
> kill without any forewarning human beings going about their life in
> the land they were born in.
the whole point of war is to kill the other guy, not to feel good, not
to be gentlemanly, not be "fair", to kill. deal with it
> Westerners have fought similar "wars" - (Gatling guns against spears
> etc.) against the third world and have also visitied technology shocks
> in war against fellow Westerners (the Brits at Agincourt against the
> French etc.) in the past.
I love how you try to paint this as a "western" phenomenon, like Russia,
China, Japan, Nigeria, Congo, Egypt, Rwanda, and every other capable
country hasn't done this.
> Weapons research in the US is carrying "total war" to levels
> unprecendented in human history. The US addiction to violence and
> killing far exceeds anything exhibited by by Genghis Khan, Attila, the
> Nazis, the Japanese etc. - but nobdy "looks the part" (with the
> exception of Dick Cheney). People behind this garagantuan killing
> machine don't seem to have cruel instincts exceeding those of average
> poeple - they seem to be regular folks who have chosen killing as a
> career ("nothing personal"). A mass killer like Schwartzkopf might be
> teaching sunday school now - and have nothing on his conscience.
so your point is that you're upset that we can engage in war without
lots of our people dying? apparently the only thing that will make you
happy is if we have casualty rates equal to those we inflict.
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