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Leroy N. Soetoro
Aug 24, 2016, 5:40:47 PM8/24/16
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/virginia-politics/mcauliffe-restores-
voting-rights-to-13000-felons/2016/08/22/2372bb72-6878-11e6-99bf-
f0cf3a6449a6_story.html
RICHMOND — One month after the state Supreme Court threw out his blanket
clemency order, Gov. Terry McAuliffe announced Monday that he has
individually restored voting rights to 13,000 felons and is working on
doing the same for a total of about 200,000.
McAuliffe (D) said he had found a way to comply with the court’s order
while addressing “an issue of basic justice.”
“I personally believe in the power of second chances and in the dignity
and worth of every single human being,” he said beside a civil rights
monument on Capitol Square. “These individuals are gainfully employed.
They send their children and their grandchildren to our schools. They shop
at our grocery stores and they pay taxes. And I am not content to condemn
them for eternity as inferior, second-class citizens.”
Republican legislative leaders who successfully sued over McAuliffe’s
original order said they will examine his latest restoration effort.
“The General Assembly will carefully review Governor McAuliffe’s process
to determine if he followed the legal requirements,” said state House
Speaker William J. Howell (R-Stafford). “From the beginning, we have done
nothing more than hold the governor accountable to the constitution and
the rule of law. The Supreme Court’s decision vindicated our efforts and
we will continue to fulfill our role as a check on the excesses of
executive power.”
With great fanfare in April, McAuliffe issued an executive order that
restored voting rights to more than 200,000 felons who had completed their
sentences. McAuliffe said his original order would move Virginia away from
a harsh lifetime disenfranchisement policy that hits African Americans
particularly hard.
Republicans, incensed that it covered violent as well as nonviolent
offenders, said the move was really a bid to add Democratic voters to the
rolls ahead of November’s presidential elections, when the governor’s
close friend and political ally Hillary Clinton will be on the ballot.
The administration’s implementation of the order was botched; it
mistakenly restored rights to 132 sex offenders still in custody as well
as to several convicted killers on probation in other states.
Contending that the governor had overstepped his authority by restoring
rights en masse rather than individually, GOP legislative leaders took him
to court and won. Because 13,000 of the 200,000 felons already had
registered to vote, the court ordered the state to once again put their
names on its list of banned voters.
Immediately after that ruling, McAuliffe vowed to use an autopen to
individually sign orders restoring rights. He promised to do the first
13,000 within a week and all 200,000 within two. But that effort ran into
unspecified delays.
On Monday, McAuliffe announced that he had restored voting rights to the
13,000 felons, making them free to register once again. He said he would
do the same for the remainder of the 200,000 but offered no timetable.
The difference between McAuliffe’s original action and his current
approach is largely procedural. Instead of simply announcing that any
felon whose sentence is complete is eligible to vote, the administration
now will mail a notice to that effect to each one.
The administration will review each record, but only to confirm that the
individual has completed the sentence and any supervised release.
McAuliffe will not individually sign the orders or make use of an autopen,
but an image of his signature will be printed on each letter, spokesman
Brian Coy said.
McAuliffe’s Republican predecessor, Robert F. McDonnell, had instituted a
similar approach, automatically sending a letter to felons who met his
criteria. But McDonnell did so only for nonviolent felons and required
that they pay any fines or restitution. As with his original order,
McAuliffe said he will not require payment or distinguish between violent
and nonviolent felons.
“Now I know there are those who believe that the governor should make
certain individuals wait longer based on the severity of their crime,” he
said. “That principle is not found anywhere in our constitution. .?.?.
Those who commit more serious crimes, of course, have longer sentences
imposed by a judge or a jury of their peers. Therefore, they must wait
longer to have their rights restored.”
McAuliffe discussed his actions in a 15-minute speech that quoted St. Paul
and Thomas Jefferson while sharply criticizing the Republicans and state
Supreme Court justices who had thwarted his original order. He said
Republicans had sued to “suppress” felons’ voices and insisted that he had
the authority to grant his original motion.
“The Virginia constitution is clear: I have the authority to restore civil
rights without limitation,” he said. “But the court dismissed the clear
text of the constitution by simply saying that the rights had never before
been restored in this manner here in Virginia. In other words, we were
messing around with the way things have always been done in the Old
Dominion. But if Virginia did things the way they had always been done
.?.?. our children would still attend segregated schools. .?.?. Our buses
would have seats assigned by race. Interracial marriage would be illegal.
Same-sex partners would not be allowed to marry. And Virginians would be
forced to pay a tax at the polls on Election Day.”
Senate Majority Leader Thomas K. Norment (R-James City) blamed McAuliffe
for causing confusion and disappointment for felons who regained their
right to vote, lost it and regained it yet again in the space of four
months.
“Had the governor followed the Constitution of Virginia on April 22 when
he initially attempted this, those affected by today’s announcement might
not have endured the roller-coaster of bureaucratic incompetence his
executive overreach exposed,” Norment said.
“This episode should serve as a cautionary tale for those who would
declare policies by fiat, circumventing the protections enshrined in the
Constitution of Virginia. The Governor’s decision to lash out at the Court
and the General Assembly after his unconstitutional order was overturned
was petulant and imprudent. He, and he alone, is responsible for the
fiasco that ensued after his April 22 announcement.”
--
His Omnipotence Barack Hussein Obama, declared himself "Pooptator" of all
mentally ill homosexuals and crossdressers, while declaring where they
will defecate.
Obama increased total debt from $10 trillion to $19 trillion in the seven
years he has been in office, and sold out heterosexuals for Hollywood
queer liberal democrat donors.
Barack Obama, reelected by the dumbest voters in the history of the United
States of America. The only American president to deliberately import a
lethal infectious disease from Africa, Ebola.
Loretta Fuddy, killed after she "verified" Obama's phony birth
certificate.
Obama ignored the brutal killing of an American diplomat in Benghazi, then
relieved American military officers who attempted to prevent said murder
in order to cover up his own ineptitude.
Obama continues his muslim goal of disarming America while ObamaCare
increases insurance premiums 300% and leaves millions without health care.
--- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: ne...@netfront.net ---
voting-rights-to-13000-felons/2016/08/22/2372bb72-6878-11e6-99bf-
f0cf3a6449a6_story.html
RICHMOND — One month after the state Supreme Court threw out his blanket
clemency order, Gov. Terry McAuliffe announced Monday that he has
individually restored voting rights to 13,000 felons and is working on
doing the same for a total of about 200,000.
McAuliffe (D) said he had found a way to comply with the court’s order
while addressing “an issue of basic justice.”
“I personally believe in the power of second chances and in the dignity
and worth of every single human being,” he said beside a civil rights
monument on Capitol Square. “These individuals are gainfully employed.
They send their children and their grandchildren to our schools. They shop
at our grocery stores and they pay taxes. And I am not content to condemn
them for eternity as inferior, second-class citizens.”
Republican legislative leaders who successfully sued over McAuliffe’s
original order said they will examine his latest restoration effort.
“The General Assembly will carefully review Governor McAuliffe’s process
to determine if he followed the legal requirements,” said state House
Speaker William J. Howell (R-Stafford). “From the beginning, we have done
nothing more than hold the governor accountable to the constitution and
the rule of law. The Supreme Court’s decision vindicated our efforts and
we will continue to fulfill our role as a check on the excesses of
executive power.”
With great fanfare in April, McAuliffe issued an executive order that
restored voting rights to more than 200,000 felons who had completed their
sentences. McAuliffe said his original order would move Virginia away from
a harsh lifetime disenfranchisement policy that hits African Americans
particularly hard.
Republicans, incensed that it covered violent as well as nonviolent
offenders, said the move was really a bid to add Democratic voters to the
rolls ahead of November’s presidential elections, when the governor’s
close friend and political ally Hillary Clinton will be on the ballot.
The administration’s implementation of the order was botched; it
mistakenly restored rights to 132 sex offenders still in custody as well
as to several convicted killers on probation in other states.
Contending that the governor had overstepped his authority by restoring
rights en masse rather than individually, GOP legislative leaders took him
to court and won. Because 13,000 of the 200,000 felons already had
registered to vote, the court ordered the state to once again put their
names on its list of banned voters.
Immediately after that ruling, McAuliffe vowed to use an autopen to
individually sign orders restoring rights. He promised to do the first
13,000 within a week and all 200,000 within two. But that effort ran into
unspecified delays.
On Monday, McAuliffe announced that he had restored voting rights to the
13,000 felons, making them free to register once again. He said he would
do the same for the remainder of the 200,000 but offered no timetable.
The difference between McAuliffe’s original action and his current
approach is largely procedural. Instead of simply announcing that any
felon whose sentence is complete is eligible to vote, the administration
now will mail a notice to that effect to each one.
The administration will review each record, but only to confirm that the
individual has completed the sentence and any supervised release.
McAuliffe will not individually sign the orders or make use of an autopen,
but an image of his signature will be printed on each letter, spokesman
Brian Coy said.
McAuliffe’s Republican predecessor, Robert F. McDonnell, had instituted a
similar approach, automatically sending a letter to felons who met his
criteria. But McDonnell did so only for nonviolent felons and required
that they pay any fines or restitution. As with his original order,
McAuliffe said he will not require payment or distinguish between violent
and nonviolent felons.
“Now I know there are those who believe that the governor should make
certain individuals wait longer based on the severity of their crime,” he
said. “That principle is not found anywhere in our constitution. .?.?.
Those who commit more serious crimes, of course, have longer sentences
imposed by a judge or a jury of their peers. Therefore, they must wait
longer to have their rights restored.”
McAuliffe discussed his actions in a 15-minute speech that quoted St. Paul
and Thomas Jefferson while sharply criticizing the Republicans and state
Supreme Court justices who had thwarted his original order. He said
Republicans had sued to “suppress” felons’ voices and insisted that he had
the authority to grant his original motion.
“The Virginia constitution is clear: I have the authority to restore civil
rights without limitation,” he said. “But the court dismissed the clear
text of the constitution by simply saying that the rights had never before
been restored in this manner here in Virginia. In other words, we were
messing around with the way things have always been done in the Old
Dominion. But if Virginia did things the way they had always been done
.?.?. our children would still attend segregated schools. .?.?. Our buses
would have seats assigned by race. Interracial marriage would be illegal.
Same-sex partners would not be allowed to marry. And Virginians would be
forced to pay a tax at the polls on Election Day.”
Senate Majority Leader Thomas K. Norment (R-James City) blamed McAuliffe
for causing confusion and disappointment for felons who regained their
right to vote, lost it and regained it yet again in the space of four
months.
“Had the governor followed the Constitution of Virginia on April 22 when
he initially attempted this, those affected by today’s announcement might
not have endured the roller-coaster of bureaucratic incompetence his
executive overreach exposed,” Norment said.
“This episode should serve as a cautionary tale for those who would
declare policies by fiat, circumventing the protections enshrined in the
Constitution of Virginia. The Governor’s decision to lash out at the Court
and the General Assembly after his unconstitutional order was overturned
was petulant and imprudent. He, and he alone, is responsible for the
fiasco that ensued after his April 22 announcement.”
--
His Omnipotence Barack Hussein Obama, declared himself "Pooptator" of all
mentally ill homosexuals and crossdressers, while declaring where they
will defecate.
Obama increased total debt from $10 trillion to $19 trillion in the seven
years he has been in office, and sold out heterosexuals for Hollywood
queer liberal democrat donors.
Barack Obama, reelected by the dumbest voters in the history of the United
States of America. The only American president to deliberately import a
lethal infectious disease from Africa, Ebola.
Loretta Fuddy, killed after she "verified" Obama's phony birth
certificate.
Obama ignored the brutal killing of an American diplomat in Benghazi, then
relieved American military officers who attempted to prevent said murder
in order to cover up his own ineptitude.
Obama continues his muslim goal of disarming America while ObamaCare
increases insurance premiums 300% and leaves millions without health care.
--- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: ne...@netfront.net ---
Al Drake
Aug 25, 2016, 7:31:34 AM8/25/16
to
On 8/24/2016 5:40 PM, Leroy N. Soetoro wrote:
> https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/virginia-politics/mcauliffe-restores-
> voting-rights-to-13000-felons/2016/08/22/2372bb72-6878-11e6-99bf-
> f0cf3a6449a6_story.html
BS snipped.
democrats. You think Hillary has stooped to an all new low. You are
simply one more fool in the low end of your gene pool of haters and
uneducated trolls.
> https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/virginia-politics/mcauliffe-restores-
> voting-rights-to-13000-felons/2016/08/22/2372bb72-6878-11e6-99bf-
> f0cf3a6449a6_story.html
BS snipped.
> fiasco that ensued after his April 22 announcement.”
>
>
Yes we get it. You think the republicans are somehow superior to the
>
>
democrats. You think Hillary has stooped to an all new low. You are
simply one more fool in the low end of your gene pool of haters and
uneducated trolls.
Governor Swill
Aug 25, 2016, 10:51:55 AM8/25/16
to
On Thu, 25 Aug 2016 07:31:24 -0400, Al Drake <ald...@spamex.com>
wrote:
The "white right" is going to kill the GOP. "Party of Lincoln", in a
pig's eye!
Swill
--
#imwithher #stronger together
And then the elephant said . . ,
"It's outrageous how donors to the Clinton Foundation got access
to government!
We prefer they get access the old fashioned way.
Through campaign contributions."
wrote:
pig's eye!
Swill
--
#imwithher #stronger together
And then the elephant said . . ,
"It's outrageous how donors to the Clinton Foundation got access
to government!
We prefer they get access the old fashioned way.
Through campaign contributions."
Beam Me Up Scotty
Aug 25, 2016, 11:24:56 AM8/25/16
to
On 08/25/2016 10:51 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Aug 2016 07:31:24 -0400, Al Drake <ald...@spamex.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 8/24/2016 5:40 PM, Leroy N. Soetoro wrote:
>>> https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/virginia-politics/mcauliffe-restores-
>>> voting-rights-to-13000-felons/2016/08/22/2372bb72-6878-11e6-99bf-
>>> f0cf3a6449a6_story.html
>>
>> BS snipped.
>>> fiasco that ensued after his April 22 announcement.”
>>>
>>>
>> Yes we get it. You think the republicans are somehow superior to the
>> democrats. You think Hillary has stooped to an all new low. You are
>> simply one more fool in the low end of your gene pool of haters and
>> uneducated trolls.
>>
>> --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: ne...@netfront.net ---
>
> The "white right" is going to kill the GOP. "Party of Lincoln", in a
> pig's eye!
>
> Swill
>
It was the white RIGHT that created the party of Lincoln, Democrats were
> On Thu, 25 Aug 2016 07:31:24 -0400, Al Drake <ald...@spamex.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 8/24/2016 5:40 PM, Leroy N. Soetoro wrote:
>>> https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/virginia-politics/mcauliffe-restores-
>>> voting-rights-to-13000-felons/2016/08/22/2372bb72-6878-11e6-99bf-
>>> f0cf3a6449a6_story.html
>>
>> BS snipped.
>>> fiasco that ensued after his April 22 announcement.”
>>>
>>>
>> Yes we get it. You think the republicans are somehow superior to the
>> democrats. You think Hillary has stooped to an all new low. You are
>> simply one more fool in the low end of your gene pool of haters and
>> uneducated trolls.
>>
>> --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: ne...@netfront.net ---
>
> The "white right" is going to kill the GOP. "Party of Lincoln", in a
> pig's eye!
>
> Swill
>
very much for slavery. Todays version of Democrat slavery is radically
different but it's still slavery.
*The Democrats haven't changed who they are* , just how they get there.
Democrats still want slavery, they just use a different type of slavery.
--
That's Karma ;)
*Rumination*
#7.0.1 - Welcome to Socialism, where mediocrity is the highest
achievement possible.
Governor Swill
Aug 25, 2016, 6:47:29 PM8/25/16
to
On Thu, 25 Aug 2016 11:24:52 -0400, Beam Me Up Scotty wrote:
>It was the white RIGHT that created the party of Lincoln,
No, in wasn't you ignoramus.
>It was the white RIGHT that created the party of Lincoln,
>Democrats were very much for slavery.
their first President. Abraham Lincoln was the first President of the
GOP. Compare the two.
>Todays version of Democrat slavery is radically
>different but it's still slavery.
>
>*The Democrats haven't changed who they are* , just how they get there.
either party ever had except the GOP still supports business over the
working guy.
>Democrats still want slavery, they just use a different type of slavery.
Ministry of Vengeance and Vendettas
Aug 26, 2016, 7:37:47 AM8/26/16
to
Al Drake <ald...@spamex.com> wrote in news:npmkul$1sna$1
@adenine.netfront.net:
Yeah beause there ain't a hint of scandal with them Clintons.
How stupid can you bve? Did you do a lot of drugs as a kid and young adult
impairing your cognitive processes?
Or are you just an evolutionary dead end?
Why is it that Democrats seem to favor every sort of deviant and thug over
regular lawabiding, employed Americans?
--
"...And what country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not warned
from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let
them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to the facts, pardon and
pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of
liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and
tyrants. It is its natural manure."--Thomas Jefferson, Nov. 13, 1787
@adenine.netfront.net:
How stupid can you bve? Did you do a lot of drugs as a kid and young adult
impairing your cognitive processes?
Or are you just an evolutionary dead end?
Why is it that Democrats seem to favor every sort of deviant and thug over
regular lawabiding, employed Americans?
--
"...And what country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not warned
from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let
them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to the facts, pardon and
pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of
liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and
tyrants. It is its natural manure."--Thomas Jefferson, Nov. 13, 1787
Ministry of Vengeance and Vendettas
Aug 26, 2016, 7:38:41 AM8/26/16
to
Governor Swill <governo...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:of1urb9q2vm8ubkjc...@4ax.com:
> On Thu, 25 Aug 2016 07:31:24 -0400, Al Drake <ald...@spamex.com>
> wrote:
>
>>On 8/24/2016 5:40 PM, Leroy N. Soetoro wrote:
>>> https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/virginia-politics/mcauliffe-restor
>>> es- voting-rights-to-13000-felons/2016/08/22/2372bb72-6878-11e6-99bf-
>>> f0cf3a6449a6_story.html
>>
>> BS snipped.
>>> fiasco that ensued after his April 22 announcement.”
>>>
>>>
>>Yes we get it. You think the republicans are somehow superior to the
>>democrats. You think Hillary has stooped to an all new low. You are
>>simply one more fool in the low end of your gene pool of haters and
>>uneducated trolls.
>>
>>--- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: ne...@netfront.net ---
>
> The "white right" is going to kill the GOP. "Party of Lincoln", in a
> pig's eye!
>
> Swill
The nigger left is killing cops, sparky. Wake the fuck up.
news:of1urb9q2vm8ubkjc...@4ax.com:
> On Thu, 25 Aug 2016 07:31:24 -0400, Al Drake <ald...@spamex.com>
> wrote:
>
>>On 8/24/2016 5:40 PM, Leroy N. Soetoro wrote:
>>> https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/virginia-politics/mcauliffe-restor
>>> es- voting-rights-to-13000-felons/2016/08/22/2372bb72-6878-11e6-99bf-
>>> f0cf3a6449a6_story.html
>>
>> BS snipped.
>>> fiasco that ensued after his April 22 announcement.”
>>>
>>>
>>Yes we get it. You think the republicans are somehow superior to the
>>democrats. You think Hillary has stooped to an all new low. You are
>>simply one more fool in the low end of your gene pool of haters and
>>uneducated trolls.
>>
>>--- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: ne...@netfront.net ---
>
> The "white right" is going to kill the GOP. "Party of Lincoln", in a
> pig's eye!
>
> Swill
Ministry of Vengeance and Vendettas
Aug 26, 2016, 7:39:38 AM8/26/16
to
Governor Swill <governo...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:g6turb59le58hh2ks...@4ax.com:
> On Thu, 25 Aug 2016 11:24:52 -0400, Beam Me Up Scotty wrote:
>
>>It was the white RIGHT that created the party of Lincoln,
>
> No, in wasn't you ignoramus.
>
>>Democrats were very much for slavery.
>
> Democrats were conservatives in the 19th century. Andrew Jackson was
> their first President. Abraham Lincoln was the first President of the
> GOP. Compare the two.
>
>>Todays version of Democrat slavery is radically
>>different but it's still slavery.
>>
>>*The Democrats haven't changed who they are* , just how they get there.
>
> They've changed everything. They've swapped every single position
> either party ever had except the GOP still supports business over the
> working guy.
logical.
>
>>Democrats still want slavery, they just use a different type of slavery.
>
> Like the wage slavery Republicans support?
>
> Swill
--
Ubiquitious
Aug 26, 2016, 8:19:52 AM8/26/16
to
Ministry of Vengeance and Vendettas:
i bet that this one worships accused pedophile Trump as a God.
the great cull cometh. tell us where you live.
> Governor Swill <governo...@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:g6turb59le58hh2ks...@4ax.com:
>
>> On Thu, 25 Aug 2016 11:24:52 -0400, Beam Me Up Scotty wrote:
>>
>>> It was the white RIGHT that created the party of Lincoln,
>>
>> No, in wasn't you ignoramus.
>>
>>> Democrats were very much for slavery.
>>
>> Democrats were conservatives in the 19th century. Andrew Jackson was
>> their first President. Abraham Lincoln was the first President of the
>> GOP. Compare the two.
>>
>>> Todays version of Democrat slavery is radically
>>> different but it's still slavery.
>>>
>>> *The Democrats haven't changed who they are* , just how they get there.
>>
>> They've changed everything. They've swapped every single position
>> either party ever had except the GOP still supports business over the
>> working guy.
>
> Weel, if you're brain damaged and can't face reality that does soumd
> logical.
another useless and brainless rightwing fag for the wood chipper.
> news:g6turb59le58hh2ks...@4ax.com:
>
>> On Thu, 25 Aug 2016 11:24:52 -0400, Beam Me Up Scotty wrote:
>>
>>> It was the white RIGHT that created the party of Lincoln,
>>
>> No, in wasn't you ignoramus.
>>
>>> Democrats were very much for slavery.
>>
>> Democrats were conservatives in the 19th century. Andrew Jackson was
>> their first President. Abraham Lincoln was the first President of the
>> GOP. Compare the two.
>>
>>> Todays version of Democrat slavery is radically
>>> different but it's still slavery.
>>>
>>> *The Democrats haven't changed who they are* , just how they get there.
>>
>> They've changed everything. They've swapped every single position
>> either party ever had except the GOP still supports business over the
>> working guy.
>
> Weel, if you're brain damaged and can't face reality that does soumd
> logical.
i bet that this one worships accused pedophile Trump as a God.
the great cull cometh. tell us where you live.
Governor Swill
Aug 26, 2016, 12:13:41 PM8/26/16
to
On Fri, 26 Aug Ministry of Vengeance and Vendettas wrote:
>> They've changed everything. They've swapped every single position
>> either party ever had except the GOP still supports business over the
>> working guy.
>Weel, if you're brain damaged and can't face reality that does soumd
>logical.
The GOP was born in the northeast, in states that are now Democratic.
>> They've changed everything. They've swapped every single position
>> either party ever had except the GOP still supports business over the
>> working guy.
>Weel, if you're brain damaged and can't face reality that does soumd
>logical.
The Democrats had a lock on the south, the slave states. Today, the
north, once reliably red, is now mostly blue and the south, once
reliably blue, is mostly red.
The Party of Lincoln was the party that abolished slavery, forced
through the 13th, 14th and 15th Amendments, supported strong central
government, a national bank and taking away the rights of states and
private banks to issue their own currency.
Lincoln introduced the greenback, the first national currency to go
into broad, then exclusive use. He inflated the national debt by over
2000% during the war to print a steady supply of paper currency in
order to finance the war.
Even in the south during the war, greenbacks bought anything you
wanted, while bank, state and confederate issues were used to paper
and insulate walls. Wealthy planters after the war had trunks full of
worthless paper issued by Richmond, the several states and private
banks.
The Republicans abolished slavery and forced through the 13th, 14th
and 15th, the "Reconstruction" amendments, over Democrats' objections.
Yeah, that's right. The 14th amendment that pisses off right wingnuts
today was *forced* into law by the *Republican* party.
"The Fourteenth Amendment (Amendment XIV) to the United States
Constitution was adopted on July 9, 1868, as one of the Reconstruction
Amendments. The amendment addresses citizenship rights and equal
protection of the laws, and was proposed in response to issues related
to former slaves following the American Civil War. The amendment was
bitterly contested, particularly by Southern [Democratic party]
states, which were forced to ratify it in order for them to regain
representation in Congress. "
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution>
The GOP suborned states' rights to federal power and issued federal
laws designed to suppress state legislation often using the supremacy
clause and the reconstruction amendments with the support of the
Republican dominated Supreme Court.
Meanwhile, the Democrats fought against central banking and paper
currency and regularly campaigned for a metal money policy. See
William Jennings Bryan
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Jennings_Bryan
and his "Cross of Gold" speech intended to expand the money supply by
including silver as legal tender.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross_of_Gold_speech
See also Andrew Jackson and the "Bank War".
"The Jacksonians considered the Second Bank of the U.S. to be an
illegitimate corporation whose charter violated state sovereignty and
therefore it posed an implicit threat to the agriculture-based economy
dependent upon the U.S. southern states' widely practiced institution
of slavery.[4][5][6] With the Bank charter due to expire in 1836, the
President of the Bank of the United States, Nicholas Biddle, in
alliance with the National Republicans under Senator Henry Clay (KY)
and Senator Daniel Webster (MA), decided to make rechartering a
referendum on the legitimacy of the institution in the general
election of 1832.
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bank_War>
The Republicans rejected this metalist based money policy preferring
to use rarer gold to back a money supply controlled by Washington.
Andrew Jackson, the first Democratic President, wanted to let the
national bank charter expire because he believed the federal
government had no business issuing or controlling the money supply nor
any role in the economy.
A slaveholder, he committed what amounted to genocide against natives
in the southeast so whites could move in and take the land.
Today business straddles both parties but the Dems are rapidly gaining
ground in this. Soon, if not imminently, the Democrats will be
dominant in business while Republicans will, well, nobody knows just
yet what's going to happen to the GOP after this election.
More could be noted, but you get the point, whether you want to or
not.
Governor Swill
Aug 26, 2016, 12:14:51 PM8/26/16
to
On Fri, 26 Aug Ministry of Vengeance and Vendettas wrote:
>> The "white right" is going to kill the GOP. "Party of Lincoln", in a
>> pig's eye!
>> pig's eye!
>The nigger left is killing cops, sparky. Wake the fuck up.
Which has what, exactly, to do with the destruction of the GOP? At
least TRY to stay on topic.
Governor Swill
Aug 26, 2016, 12:15:51 PM8/26/16
to
On Fri, 26 Aug 2016 11:37:46 -0000 (UTC), Ministry of Vengeance and
Vendettas <nuke_them_...@sulaco.com> wrote:
>Why is it that Democrats seem to favor every sort of deviant and thug over
>regular lawabiding, employed Americans?
Probably because the Republicans have turned into a band of thugs.
Vendettas <nuke_them_...@sulaco.com> wrote:
>Why is it that Democrats seem to favor every sort of deviant and thug over
>regular lawabiding, employed Americans?
Ministry of Vengeance and Vendettas
Aug 27, 2016, 9:16:10 AM8/27/16
to
Governor Swill <governo...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:2pq0sbha7omerhe71...@4ax.com:
> On Fri, 26 Aug 2016 11:37:46 -0000 (UTC), Ministry of Vengeance and
> Vendettas <nuke_them_...@sulaco.com> wrote:
>
>>Why is it that Democrats seem to favor every sort of deviant and thug over
>>regular lawabiding, employed Americans?
>
> Probably because the Republicans have turned into a band of thugs.
>
> Swill
party, encouraged cop killers?
No we haven't gone thug on you. Yet. You will know it when we do. Cuz you'll
be dead.
Ministry of Vengeance and Vendettas
Aug 27, 2016, 9:18:50 AM8/27/16
to
Governor Swill <governo...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:6mq0sb5ra72gecgpo...@4ax.com:
> On Fri, 26 Aug Ministry of Vengeance and Vendettas wrote:
>
>>> The "white right" is going to kill the GOP. "Party of Lincoln", in a
>>> pig's eye!
>
>>The nigger left is killing cops, sparky. Wake the fuck up.
>
> Which has what, exactly, to do with the destruction of the GOP? At
> least TRY to stay on topic.
>
> Swill
worried about the US. Apparently Dems are just worried about getting thier
chosen criminal in office so they can preside over it's demise.
And make sure the Dem elite continue to loot the Treasury. I mean for God's
sake, how much money do the Clinton's need?
Ministry of Vengeance and Vendettas
Aug 27, 2016, 9:23:14 AM8/27/16
to
Governor Swill <governo...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:bbo0sbhqo3d2clvgb...@4ax.com:
> On Fri, 26 Aug Ministry of Vengeance and Vendettas wrote:
>>> They've changed everything. They've swapped every single position
>>> either party ever had except the GOP still supports business over the
>>> working guy.
>
>>Weel, if you're brain damaged and can't face reality that does soumd
>>logical.
>
>
Which has nothing to do with the Democrat Party of today which is a
continuing criminal enterprise.
They should be exterminated.
--
"...And what country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not warned
from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let
them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to the facts, pardon and
pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of
liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and
Governor Swill
Aug 27, 2016, 10:57:26 AM8/27/16
to
On Sat, 27 Aug 2016 13:23:13 -0000 (UTC), Ministry of Vengeance and
Vendettas <nuke_them_...@sulaco.com> wrote:
>Governor Swill <governo...@gmail.com> wrote in
>news:bbo0sbhqo3d2clvgb...@4ax.com:
>
>> On Fri, 26 Aug Ministry of Vengeance and Vendettas wrote:
>>>> They've changed everything. They've swapped every single position
>>>> either party ever had except the GOP still supports business over the
>>>> working guy.
>>
>>>Weel, if you're brain damaged and can't face reality that does soumd
>>>logical.
>>
>>
>> Swill
<snipped content restored below>
Vendettas <nuke_them_...@sulaco.com> wrote:
>Governor Swill <governo...@gmail.com> wrote in
>news:bbo0sbhqo3d2clvgb...@4ax.com:
>
>> On Fri, 26 Aug Ministry of Vengeance and Vendettas wrote:
>>>> They've changed everything. They've swapped every single position
>>>> either party ever had except the GOP still supports business over the
>>>> working guy.
>>
>>>Weel, if you're brain damaged and can't face reality that does soumd
>>>logical.
>>
>>
>> Swill
>Which has nothing to do with the Democrat Party of today
century because they perfectly expressed the same views as today's
hard right GOP.
Governor Swill
Aug 27, 2016, 11:34:25 AM8/27/16
to
On Sat, 27 Aug Ministry of Vengeance and Vendettas wrote:
>The eGOP is killing itself. Honestkly I could give a fuck about party, I'm
>worried about the US.
So am I. That's why I'm determined to do everything I can to keep
>The eGOP is killing itself. Honestkly I could give a fuck about party, I'm
>worried about the US.
Trump and his misogynistic, racist base out of the White House.
>Apparently Dems are just worried about getting thier
>chosen criminal in office so they can preside over it's demise.
>And make sure the Dem elite continue to loot the Treasury. I mean for God's
>sake, how much money do the Clinton's need?
imperative and Trump has clearly signaled his intention to rob the
public of another ten trillion dollars at least.
Governor Swill
Aug 27, 2016, 11:36:43 AM8/27/16
to
On Sat, 27 Aug Ministry of Vengeance and Vendettas wrote:
>Governor Swill wrote
Yeah, really. White collar thugs.
>Which party blocked roads, assaulted people from the other
>party, encouraged cop killers?
Which party encourages killing brown people for broken taillights and
selling loose cigarettes and daring to walk down the street eating
skittles? Which party makes it a habit of doubling and even tripling
the debt every time they get into office?
>No we haven't gone thug on you. Yet. You will know it when we do. Cuz you'll
>be dead.
Nah, you guys haven't the guts to start a shooting war.
>Governor Swill wrote
>> On Fri, 26 Aug Ministry of Vengeance and Vendettas wrote:
>>>Why is it that Democrats seem to favor every sort of deviant and thug over
>>>regular lawabiding, employed Americans?
>> Probably because the Republicans have turned into a band of thugs.
>Thugs? Really?
>>>Why is it that Democrats seem to favor every sort of deviant and thug over
>>>regular lawabiding, employed Americans?
>> Probably because the Republicans have turned into a band of thugs.
Yeah, really. White collar thugs.
>Which party blocked roads, assaulted people from the other
>party, encouraged cop killers?
selling loose cigarettes and daring to walk down the street eating
skittles? Which party makes it a habit of doubling and even tripling
the debt every time they get into office?
>No we haven't gone thug on you. Yet. You will know it when we do. Cuz you'll
>be dead.
Ministry of Vengeance and Vendettas
Aug 27, 2016, 12:30:11 PM8/27/16
to
Governor Swill <governo...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:coc3sbpu0h7lepmif...@4ax.com:
> On Sat, 27 Aug Ministry of Vengeance and Vendettas wrote:
>>Governor Swill wrote
>>> On Fri, 26 Aug Ministry of Vengeance and Vendettas wrote:
>>>>Why is it that Democrats seem to favor every sort of deviant and thug
>>>>over regular lawabiding, employed Americans?
>>> Probably because the Republicans have turned into a band of thugs.
>
>>Thugs? Really?
>
> Yeah, really. White collar thugs.
>
>>Which party blocked roads, assaulted people from the other
>>party, encouraged cop killers?
>
> Which party encourages killing brown people for broken taillights
> and
> selling loose cigarettes
Loony lefties have made made cigarettes into contrabnd.
> and daring to walk down the street eating skittles?
> Which party makes it a habit of doubling and even tripling
> the debt every time they get into office?
1/18/2008 $9,188,640,287,930.39
8/25/2016 $19,472,203,761,101.76
http://www.treasurydirect.gov/NP/debt/current
>>No we haven't gone thug on you. Yet. You will know it when we do. Cuz
>>you'll be dead.
>
> Nah, you guys haven't the guts to start a shooting war.
>
> Swill
--
"...And what country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not
warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of
resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to
the facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a
century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time,
Governor Swill
Aug 27, 2016, 1:48:58 PM8/27/16
to
On Sat, 27 Aug Ministry of Vengeance and Vendettas wrote:
>> Which party makes it a habit of doubling and even tripling
>> the debt every time they get into office?
>
>Um
>
>1/18/2008 $9,188,640,287,930.39
>8/25/2016 $19,472,203,761,101.76
>
>http://www.treasurydirect.gov/NP/debt/current
You're using the wrong date, STUPID. Bush's last fiscal year didn't
>> Which party makes it a habit of doubling and even tripling
>> the debt every time they get into office?
>
>Um
>
>1/18/2008 $9,188,640,287,930.39
>8/25/2016 $19,472,203,761,101.76
>
>http://www.treasurydirect.gov/NP/debt/current
end until 09/30/2009, STUPID. All the budgeted spending and revenues
for 2009 were already passed and appropriated before Obama was sworn
in, STUPID. You might make a case for Obama's spring stimulus being
his spending, but he wouldn't have had to spend that money if Bush had
driven the economy over a cliff, STUPID.
09/30/2009 11,909,829,003,511.75
Meanwhile, another shooting in Chicago, a woman walking with her baby,
is in the news. CNN has an indignant sounding Republican on yelling,
"Someone's got to do something about this!" "Someone" Hmm . . . Like
the government maybe? Trump's campaign has already announced that
he'll stop such crimes if the African America community votes for him.
Meanwhile, the indignant Republican is calling for the National Guard
to be called out. Great. Not enough to put cops on the streets, now
they want the troops getting shot up too.
Ministry of Vengeance and Vendettas
Aug 27, 2016, 2:38:44 PM8/27/16
to
Governor Swill <governo...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:fjc3sbpg446ud9jtl...@4ax.com:
> On Sat, 27 Aug Ministry of Vengeance and Vendettas wrote:
>>The eGOP is killing itself. Honestkly I could give a fuck about party,
>>I'm worried about the US.
>
> So am I. That's why I'm determined to do everything I can to keep
> Trump and his misogynistic, racist base out of the White House.
>
>>Apparently Dems are just worried about getting thier
>>chosen criminal in office so they can preside over it's demise.
>
> The only demise of American would come from a President Trump.
>
>>And make sure the Dem elite continue to loot the Treasury. I mean for
>>God's sake, how much money do the Clinton's need?
>
> It's not the Dems looting the Treasury. That's the Republicans'
> imperative and Trump has clearly signaled his intention to rob the
> public of another ten trillion dollars at least.
>
> Swill
been president with his own appointee running Treasury.
Exactly how are the Republicana looting the Treasury?
Why is it DEMOCRATS never want tohave an honest conversation on what we
spend money on and if it is really neccessary.
You know th=like the Trillion dollar stimulus with the not so shovel ready
jobs and all of the Green companies that sucked blood out of the Treasury
and then went under leaving the Democrat donors with wads of cash.
There is no longer any point in debating people like you. You are either
seriouly mentally ill or you are in on it.
Either way you are a clear and presnet danger.
--
"...And what country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not
warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of
resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to
the facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a
century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time,
Al Drake
Aug 27, 2016, 4:24:46 PM8/27/16
to
On 8/26/2016 7:37 AM, Ministry of Vengeance and Vendettas wrote:
> Al Drake <ald...@spamex.com> wrote in news:npmkul$1sna$1
> @adenine.netfront.net:
>
>> On 8/24/2016 5:40 PM, Leroy N. Soetoro wrote:
>>> https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/virginia-politics/mcauliffe-restores-
>>> voting-rights-to-13000-felons/2016/08/22/2372bb72-6878-11e6-99bf-
>>> f0cf3a6449a6_story.html
>>
>> BS snipped.
>>> fiasco that ensued after his April 22 announcement.”
>>>
>>>
>> Yes we get it. You think the republicans are somehow superior to the
>> democrats. You think Hillary has stooped to an all new low. You are
>> simply one more fool in the low end of your gene pool of haters and
>> uneducated trolls.
>>
>> --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: ne...@netfront.net ---
>>
>
> Yeah beause there ain't a hint of scandal with them Clintons.
I never claimed anything of the sort. Everyone knows both parties are
> Al Drake <ald...@spamex.com> wrote in news:npmkul$1sna$1
> @adenine.netfront.net:
>
>> On 8/24/2016 5:40 PM, Leroy N. Soetoro wrote:
>>> https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/virginia-politics/mcauliffe-restores-
>>> voting-rights-to-13000-felons/2016/08/22/2372bb72-6878-11e6-99bf-
>>> f0cf3a6449a6_story.html
>>
>> BS snipped.
>>> fiasco that ensued after his April 22 announcement.”
>>>
>>>
>> Yes we get it. You think the republicans are somehow superior to the
>> democrats. You think Hillary has stooped to an all new low. You are
>> simply one more fool in the low end of your gene pool of haters and
>> uneducated trolls.
>>
>> --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: ne...@netfront.net ---
>>
>
> Yeah beause there ain't a hint of scandal with them Clintons.
corrupt. Again, You think the republicans are somehow superior to the
>> democrats.
>
> How stupid can you bve? Did you do a lot of drugs as a kid and young adult
> impairing your cognitive processes?
>
> Or are you just an evolutionary dead end?
You seem to be the one that is "brain dead". I have pointed out that
> impairing your cognitive processes?
>
> Or are you just an evolutionary dead end?
both parties are corrupt and you go on a ballistic meltdown. You are
embarrassing yourself.
>
> Why is it that Democrats seem to favor every sort of deviant and thug over
> regular lawabiding, employed Americans?
>
ignorance. We understand.
Ministry of Vengeance and Vendettas
Aug 27, 2016, 7:49:01 PM8/27/16
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Al Drake <ald...@spamex.com> wrote in
news:npssud$5ql$1...@adenine.netfront.net:
superior to any Democrat in any possible comparison.
Do you really think that of Trump was as corrupt as HRC that it would be a
secret? Hell, even Asange said that ain't not there there with Trump. He is
what he appears to be.
As far as the comparisons go though HRC is about as corrupt as it gets and
I dare you to post anything about any Republican that comes close.
Hell, BC is a rapist. HRC has violated security. She has sold uranium to
the Russians.
Mental patient, which Republican can you claim to be as corrupt as either,
never mind both.
--
"...And what country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not
warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of
resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to
the facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a
century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time,
Governor Swill
Aug 27, 2016, 9:21:44 PM8/27/16
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On Sat, 27 Aug Ministry of Vengeance and Vendettas wrote:
>The Democrats have been in control for most of the alst 8 years. Obama has
>been president with his own appointee running Treasury.
And what about the 8 years before that when Bush was looting the
>The Democrats have been in control for most of the alst 8 years. Obama has
>been president with his own appointee running Treasury.
treasury with his three treas sec appointees?
Clinton left Bush a 5.6T debt, a healthy economy and a budget in
surplus.
Bush left Obama as 11.9T debt, a depressed economy, a collapsed
financial system, the first trillion dollar deficit (followed by two
more) and two badly managed, ELECTIVE wars.
>Exactly how are the Republicana looting the Treasury?
Dem and mixed Congresses cut the deficit every year he was in office
until the GOP took both houses. Their first budget was for 2016 and
it increased the deficit by over a third. The first deficit increase
since Bush left office, and it happened as soon as the GOP got control
of the budget process.
>Why is it DEMOCRATS never want tohave an honest conversation on what we
>spend money on and if it is really neccessary.
conversation. Both are too preoccupied with power games to bother
with anything as dreary as facts.
>You know th=like the Trillion dollar stimulus with the not so shovel ready
>jobs and all of the Green companies that sucked blood out of the Treasury
>and then went under leaving the Democrat donors with wads of cash.
2001 stimulus.
<http://taxfoundation.org/blog/did-2001-tax-rebate-checks-stimulate-consumption-economic-evidence>
2002 stimulus
<http://www.voanews.com/a/a-13-a-2002-03-09-8-bush-67563832/388180.html>
2003 stimulus
<http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/01/09/bush.economy/>
TWO stimulus packages in 2008 . . .
January: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_Stimulus_Act_of_2008>
October:
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency_Economic_Stabilization_Act_of_2008>
. . . plus TARP . . .
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troubled_Asset_Relief_Program>
. . . and a Detroit bailout:
<http://www.politico.com/story/2008/12/bush-announces-174-billion-auto-bailout-016740>
That's SEVEN economic repair/stimulus/bailout packages passed in EIGHT
years by ONE President and he STILL crashed the economy!
Republicans LOVE stimulus when they're the ones doing the spending.
<https://www.americanprogressaction.org/issues/economy/news/2011/08/31/10212/republicans-loved-stimulus-when-bush-was-in-the-white-house/>
>There is no longer any point in debating people like you. You are either
>seriouly mentally ill or you are in on it.
the evidence for that is you can't back up anything you say with a
single credibly cited FACT.
>Either way you are a clear and presnet danger.
Governor Swill
Aug 27, 2016, 9:46:04 PM8/27/16
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On Sat, 27 Aug Ministry of Vengeance and Vendettas wrote:
>Nope. I think the Republicans suck, too. I, however, think Trump is far
>superior to any Democrat in any possible comparison.
This election is a referendum on white supremacy vs humanity.
>Nope. I think the Republicans suck, too. I, however, think Trump is far
>superior to any Democrat in any possible comparison.
>Do you really think that of Trump was as corrupt as HRC that it would be a
>secret? Hell, even Asange said that ain't not there there with Trump. He is
>what he appears to be.
much worse.
>As far as the comparisons go though HRC is about as corrupt as it gets and
>I dare you to post anything about any Republican that comes close.
>Hell, BC is a rapist.
>HRC has violated security.
So has David Petraeus.
>She has sold uranium to the Russians.
>Mental patient, which Republican can you claim to be as corrupt as either,
>never mind both.
Trump on any given day.
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