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The End Of An Error
May 13, 2012, 2:09:58 AM5/13/12
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It is up to American voters to take out the other.
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Unknown
May 13, 2012, 9:11:12 AM5/13/12
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"The End Of An Error" wrote in message
news:X2G1H4ZW4104...@reece.net.au...
> It is up to American voters to take out the other.
It's a hoot to see how pissed off Republicans are that Obama killed bin
Laden.
news:X2G1H4ZW4104...@reece.net.au...
> It is up to American voters to take out the other.
Laden.
Klaus Schadenfreude
May 13, 2012, 9:14:57 AM5/13/12
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>"Sanders Kaufman" <[bu...@kaufman.net]> wrote in talk.politics.guns :
Hate to break this to you, but Obama didn't kill bin laden.
HeyBub
May 13, 2012, 10:41:25 AM5/13/12
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* Can someone be charged with aggravated (armed) robbery if all they had in
their possession was a water gun?
* How about if he just poked a finger in his jacket pocket?
* What if he used a real gun but it was unloaded?
We await your enlightened response(s) with a hushed silence. Go ahead, we're
waiting for you to demonstrate your idiocy once again.
Frank
May 13, 2012, 12:20:55 PM5/13/12
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Benny Fishhole
May 13, 2012, 12:24:20 PM5/13/12
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Stan Schmale
May 13, 2012, 1:12:58 PM5/13/12
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On 13 May 2012, Benny Fishhole <be...@fakeaddress.edu> posted some
news:t0ovq71b4qn1s2l3m...@4ax.com:
while flying both helicopters at the same time
news:t0ovq71b4qn1s2l3m...@4ax.com:
emoneyjoe
May 13, 2012, 1:19:09 PM5/13/12
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I forget.
Jeff M
May 13, 2012, 2:36:01 PM5/13/12
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interest in getting him. I think "Osama dead and GM alive" makes a
catchy campaign slogan.
Jeff M
May 13, 2012, 2:38:24 PM5/13/12
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Bush, who personally flew strike missions off an aircraft carrier
against Saddam's Iraq.
The Daring Dufas
May 13, 2012, 3:08:45 PM5/13/12
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M134 Minigun in one hand, cut down all the terrorist guards protecting
Osama bin Laden's castle with a 6,000 round per minute stream of hot
lead then ran up the stairs to OBL's love nest where the master
terrorist was watching goat porn videos. Ramboma confronted Osama bin
Laden and shouted "Surrender or I'll organize your community!" and OBL
shouted back " Never! I'd rather die than surrender to an Affirmative
Action moron like you!". Hearing this from the defiant rag head, Ramboma
who had been chewing on a bullet, suddenly spit the round toward the
master terrorist and the spittle covered projectile pierced
the evil eye of the rag head blowing out the back of his skull.
Anyone who doesn't believe Ramboma killed Osama bin Laden must be an
evil rich Republican. I know my hero Ramboma will hunt down and kill
all those dastardly terrorists who are hiding under rocks. ^_^
TDD
The Daring Dufas
May 13, 2012, 3:13:07 PM5/13/12
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murdered all those Iraqis? Claiming Ramboma killed Osama bin Laden is
just as ludicrous. o_O
TDD
Jeff M
May 13, 2012, 3:16:21 PM5/13/12
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Klaus Schadenfreude
May 13, 2012, 3:16:47 PM5/13/12
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>The Daring Dufas <the-dari...@stinky.net> wrote in talk.politics.guns :
>On 5/13/2012 8:11 AM, Sanders Kaufman wrote:
>> "The End Of An Error" wrote in message
>> news:X2G1H4ZW4104...@reece.net.au...
>>
>>> It is up to American voters to take out the other.
>>
>> It's a hoot to see how pissed off Republicans are that Obama killed bin
>> Laden.
>>
>
>My hero Ramboma jumped out of the Black Hawk helicopter and holding his
>M134 Minigun in one hand, cut down all the terrorist guards protecting
>Osama bin Laden's castle with a 6,000 round per minute stream of hot
>lead then ran up the stairs to OBL's love nest where the master
>terrorist was watching goat porn videos. Ramboma confronted Osama bin
>Laden and shouted "Surrender or I'll organize your community!" and OBL
>shouted back " Never! I'd rather die than surrender to an Affirmative
>Action moron like you!". Hearing this from the defiant rag head, Ramboma
>who had been chewing on a bullet, suddenly spit the round toward the
>master terrorist and the spittle covered projectile pierced
>the evil eye of the rag head blowing out the back of his skull.
I find it very difficult to believe that he could spit a bullet with
enough velocity to pierce an eye.
The rest sound perfectly believable, though.
>On 5/13/2012 8:11 AM, Sanders Kaufman wrote:
>> "The End Of An Error" wrote in message
>> news:X2G1H4ZW4104...@reece.net.au...
>>
>>> It is up to American voters to take out the other.
>>
>> It's a hoot to see how pissed off Republicans are that Obama killed bin
>> Laden.
>>
>
>My hero Ramboma jumped out of the Black Hawk helicopter and holding his
>M134 Minigun in one hand, cut down all the terrorist guards protecting
>Osama bin Laden's castle with a 6,000 round per minute stream of hot
>lead then ran up the stairs to OBL's love nest where the master
>terrorist was watching goat porn videos. Ramboma confronted Osama bin
>Laden and shouted "Surrender or I'll organize your community!" and OBL
>shouted back " Never! I'd rather die than surrender to an Affirmative
>Action moron like you!". Hearing this from the defiant rag head, Ramboma
>who had been chewing on a bullet, suddenly spit the round toward the
>master terrorist and the spittle covered projectile pierced
>the evil eye of the rag head blowing out the back of his skull.
enough velocity to pierce an eye.
The rest sound perfectly believable, though.
Jeff M
May 13, 2012, 4:42:17 PM5/13/12
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accountability mean.
Presidents have always been tagged by their critics, rightly or wrongly,
with personal responsibility for war deaths.
Unknown
May 13, 2012, 6:51:13 PM5/13/12
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"Jeff M" wrote in message
news:F_ydnZ1G5ZfgYzLS...@giganews.com...
>Yep. And why not? He got the job done after Bush said he'd lost interest
>in getting him. I think "Osama dead and GM alive" makes a catchy campaign
>slogan.
I like it.
news:F_ydnZ1G5ZfgYzLS...@giganews.com...
>Yep. And why not? He got the job done after Bush said he'd lost interest
>in getting him. I think "Osama dead and GM alive" makes a catchy campaign
>slogan.
HeyBub
May 13, 2012, 6:59:10 PM5/13/12
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Al
May 13, 2012, 7:22:36 PM5/13/12
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In article <PVWrr.4236$4P3....@newsfe08.iad>,
Yeah, a campaign slogan centered on death is a real winner.
Gray Guest
May 13, 2012, 7:30:32 PM5/13/12
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Al <albert.f...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:albert.finney000-94...@news.giganews.com:
Liberals are a death cult.
--
I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit. It's the only way to
be sure.
What I like about this attitude is it works equally well for Iran and the
Democrat National Covention.
http://nukeitfromorbit.com/
news:albert.finney000-94...@news.giganews.com:
--
I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit. It's the only way to
be sure.
What I like about this attitude is it works equally well for Iran and the
Democrat National Covention.
http://nukeitfromorbit.com/
Jeff M
May 13, 2012, 7:51:44 PM5/13/12
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American industry and jobs. Had Bush managed to get Obama, a deed for
which he would have deserved appropriate political credit, we'd never
have heard the end of it. It just pisses off some people that Obama saw
to it that the job got done. Sour grapes, nothing more.
Unknown
May 13, 2012, 7:49:41 PM5/13/12
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"Al" wrote in message
news:albert.finney000-94...@news.giganews.com...
> Yeah, a campaign slogan centered on death is a real winner.
It worked for Eisenhower.
news:albert.finney000-94...@news.giganews.com...
> Yeah, a campaign slogan centered on death is a real winner.
Jeff M
May 13, 2012, 7:59:26 PM5/13/12
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to achieve high office. He did more than most people know or give him
credit for, for the good of the country.
Unknown
May 13, 2012, 7:56:31 PM5/13/12
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"Jeff M" wrote in message
news:pdydnYsDf9DV1S3S...@giganews.com...
> On 5/13/2012 6:22 PM, Al wrote:
> It just pisses off some people that Obama saw to it that the job got done.
> Sour grapes, nothing more.
Oh, there's more alright.
> It just pisses off some people that Obama saw to it that the job got done.
> Sour grapes, nothing more.
This is only nominally about politics.
The real issue underlying all this anti-Obama rhetoric is racism - White
Power style.
The Republicans don't really care about healthcare or Iraq or heroin or
whatever.
They're completely focused on their racism.
They tried to keep their racism in check, in past years.
But electing a black president was just too much for them.
Jeff M
May 13, 2012, 8:27:21 PM5/13/12
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not all. For the bitter, ignorant sort of racist, it must be extremely
galling, even infuriating, to see any "black" person achieve the
Presidency or other high office.
When you add Obama's general popularity (he topped the annual Most
Admired List in 2011); his calm, level-headed demeanor; his high
intelligence and academic success; his likeable family; and his lack of
those stereotypical traits racists like to attribute to black people,
it's easy to see why they burn with fury and seethe with hatred for Obama.
Unknown
May 13, 2012, 8:33:29 PM5/13/12
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"Jeff M" wrote in message
news:jJWdnVWtEdM8zS3S...@giganews.com...
> On 5/13/2012 6:56 PM, Sanders Kaufman wrote:
>> They tried to keep their racism in check, in past years.
>> But electing a black president was just too much for them.
>I'm sure that's true in many cases, but, as you probably know, certainly
>not all.
Of course not all - just the ones who are vocal about their opposition.
>> They tried to keep their racism in check, in past years.
>> But electing a black president was just too much for them.
>I'm sure that's true in many cases, but, as you probably know, certainly
>not all.
The ones who aren't racists are keeping their mouths shut - to avoid
associating with the racists.
Heard much from Boehner lately? Nope. Lugar? Nope.
They're ashamed to be associated with their party's racist members.
Dime against a dollar says - they'll be pulling a blue lever in November for
that very reason.
Al
May 13, 2012, 8:43:09 PM5/13/12
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In article <XnsA052C676ED69AWe...@88.198.244.100>,
Gray Guest <No_email...@wahoo.com> wrote:
> Al <albert.f...@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:albert.finney000-94...@news.giganews.com:
>
> > In article <PVWrr.4236$4P3....@newsfe08.iad>,
> > "Sanders Kaufman" <[bu...@kaufman.net]> wrote:
> >
> >> "Jeff M" wrote in message
> >> news:F_ydnZ1G5ZfgYzLS...@giganews.com...
> >>
> >> >Yep. And why not? He got the job done after Bush said he'd lost
> >> >interest in getting him. I think "Osama dead and GM alive" makes a
> >> >catchy campaign slogan.
> >>
> >> I like it.
> >
> >
> > Yeah, a campaign slogan centered on death is a real winner.
> >
>
> Liberals are a death cult.
Lots and lots of them are in jail.
> Al <albert.f...@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:albert.finney000-94...@news.giganews.com:
>
> > In article <PVWrr.4236$4P3....@newsfe08.iad>,
> > "Sanders Kaufman" <[bu...@kaufman.net]> wrote:
> >
> >> "Jeff M" wrote in message
> >> news:F_ydnZ1G5ZfgYzLS...@giganews.com...
> >>
> >> >Yep. And why not? He got the job done after Bush said he'd lost
> >> >interest in getting him. I think "Osama dead and GM alive" makes a
> >> >catchy campaign slogan.
> >>
> >> I like it.
> >
> >
> > Yeah, a campaign slogan centered on death is a real winner.
> >
>
> Liberals are a death cult.
Jeff M
May 13, 2012, 8:48:44 PM5/13/12
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On 5/13/2012 7:33 PM, Sanders Kaufman wrote:
> "Jeff M" wrote in message
> news:jJWdnVWtEdM8zS3S...@giganews.com...
>> On 5/13/2012 6:56 PM, Sanders Kaufman wrote:
>
>>> They tried to keep their racism in check, in past years.
>>> But electing a black president was just too much for them.
>
>> I'm sure that's true in many cases, but, as you probably know,
>> certainly not all.
>
> Of course not all - just the ones who are vocal about their opposition.
> The ones who aren't racists are keeping their mouths shut - to avoid
> associating with the racists.
> Heard much from Boehner lately? Nope. Lugar? Nope.
> They're ashamed to be associated with their party's racist members.
Or maybe they're just a bit smarter than the average loudmouth racist,
> "Jeff M" wrote in message
> news:jJWdnVWtEdM8zS3S...@giganews.com...
>> On 5/13/2012 6:56 PM, Sanders Kaufman wrote:
>
>>> They tried to keep their racism in check, in past years.
>>> But electing a black president was just too much for them.
>
>> I'm sure that's true in many cases, but, as you probably know,
>> certainly not all.
>
> Of course not all - just the ones who are vocal about their opposition.
> The ones who aren't racists are keeping their mouths shut - to avoid
> associating with the racists.
> Heard much from Boehner lately? Nope. Lugar? Nope.
> They're ashamed to be associated with their party's racist members.
and know to keep their racism under wraps.
The Daring Dufas
May 13, 2012, 8:48:18 PM5/13/12
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Democrats ignored his warning. In fact many politicians embraced it
because of one thing, "MONEY". It meant money in their pocket and
money for their constituents. Both Democrats and Republicans have
fed at that trough. ^_^
TDD
Jeff M
May 13, 2012, 8:52:53 PM5/13/12
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a thought for electoral politics of any kind, except maybe for maybe all
the right-wing Aryan Brotherhood types.
Jeff M
May 13, 2012, 8:55:36 PM5/13/12
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On 5/13/2012 7:48 PM, The Daring Dufas wrote:
> On 5/13/2012 6:59 PM, Jeff M wrote:
>> On 5/13/2012 6:49 PM, Sanders Kaufman wrote:
>>> "Al" wrote in message
>>> news:albert.finney000-94...@news.giganews.com...
>>>
>>>> Yeah, a campaign slogan centered on death is a real winner.
>>>
>>> It worked for Eisenhower.
>>
>> Who was among the last of the sane, competent and pragmatic Republicans
>> to achieve high office. He did more than most people know or give him
>> credit for, for the good of the country.
>>
>
> Eisenhower warned of "The Military Industrial Complex" and most
> Democrats ignored his warning.
As did virtually all Republicans at the time.
> On 5/13/2012 6:59 PM, Jeff M wrote:
>> On 5/13/2012 6:49 PM, Sanders Kaufman wrote:
>>> "Al" wrote in message
>>> news:albert.finney000-94...@news.giganews.com...
>>>
>>>> Yeah, a campaign slogan centered on death is a real winner.
>>>
>>> It worked for Eisenhower.
>>
>> Who was among the last of the sane, competent and pragmatic Republicans
>> to achieve high office. He did more than most people know or give him
>> credit for, for the good of the country.
>>
>
> Eisenhower warned of "The Military Industrial Complex" and most
> Democrats ignored his warning.
> In fact many politicians embraced it
> because of one thing, "MONEY". It meant money in their pocket and
> money for their constituents. Both Democrats and Republicans have
> fed at that trough. ^_^
defense contractor can subcontract a major defense program out to.
The Daring Dufas
May 13, 2012, 9:03:01 PM5/13/12
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On 5/13/2012 6:56 PM, Sanders Kaufman wrote:
in the hell are you going to get it through your thick skull that
President Obama is not a Negro. He's a Mulatto you idiot and no one from
the Republican party dislikes him because of his skin color. Any dislike
is because Obama is a Communist who is trying his best to destroy The
United States of America. The only people fixated on The Presidents skin
color are you P.L.L.C.F. types. It's so amusing to see those of your ilk
lambast Negro Americans and women who happen to believe in Conservative
values and be Republicans. I amazed at how nasty you are to people of
color who don't share your warped political beliefs. o_O
TDD
The Daring Dufas
May 13, 2012, 9:04:31 PM5/13/12
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TDD
Jeff M
May 13, 2012, 9:12:53 PM5/13/12
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Al
May 13, 2012, 9:13:46 PM5/13/12
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In article <pdydnYsDf9DV1S3S...@giganews.com>,
I think it's great, they really should go with it, it's only half-stupid.
> The other half is all about saving
> American industry and jobs.
Saved the Union jobs, government jobs. Obama is a Union President.
As long as he can print or borrow money and hand it out, he'll be deeply
loved.
Jeff M <NoS...@NoThanks.Org> wrote:
> On 5/13/2012 6:22 PM, Al wrote:
> > In article<PVWrr.4236$4P3....@newsfe08.iad>,
> > "Sanders Kaufman"<[bu...@kaufman.net]> wrote:
> >
> >> "Jeff M" wrote in message
> >> news:F_ydnZ1G5ZfgYzLS...@giganews.com...
> >>
> >>> Yep. And why not? He got the job done after Bush said he'd lost interest
> >>> in getting him. I think "Osama dead and GM alive" makes a catchy campaign
> >>> slogan.
> >>
> >> I like it.
> >
> > Yeah, a campaign slogan centered on death is a real winner.
>
> Only half centered on death.
Yeah, the death half.
> On 5/13/2012 6:22 PM, Al wrote:
> > In article<PVWrr.4236$4P3....@newsfe08.iad>,
> > "Sanders Kaufman"<[bu...@kaufman.net]> wrote:
> >
> >> "Jeff M" wrote in message
> >> news:F_ydnZ1G5ZfgYzLS...@giganews.com...
> >>
> >>> Yep. And why not? He got the job done after Bush said he'd lost interest
> >>> in getting him. I think "Osama dead and GM alive" makes a catchy campaign
> >>> slogan.
> >>
> >> I like it.
> >
> > Yeah, a campaign slogan centered on death is a real winner.
>
> Only half centered on death.
I think it's great, they really should go with it, it's only half-stupid.
> The other half is all about saving
> American industry and jobs.
As long as he can print or borrow money and hand it out, he'll be deeply
loved.
Al
May 13, 2012, 9:14:38 PM5/13/12
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In article <DMXrr.4263$x11....@newsfe21.iad>,
You liked Ike?
The Daring Dufas
May 13, 2012, 9:16:37 PM5/13/12
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TDD
Jeff M
May 13, 2012, 9:25:38 PM5/13/12
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On 5/13/2012 8:13 PM, Al wrote:
> In article<pdydnYsDf9DV1S3S...@giganews.com>,
You say that like it's a bad thing.
You'd have preferred that GM go down then? You wanted to see probably
hundreds of thousands of people lose their jobs, local and regional
economies and tax bases devastated, our national economic recovery
jeopardized, and all those workers added to the unemployment and welfare
rolls? How deep and self destructive is your hatred?
> As long as he can print or borrow money and hand it out, he'll be deeply
> loved.
What would you know or understand about such things? Your comments
shows that it must be very little.
> In article<pdydnYsDf9DV1S3S...@giganews.com>,
You'd have preferred that GM go down then? You wanted to see probably
hundreds of thousands of people lose their jobs, local and regional
economies and tax bases devastated, our national economic recovery
jeopardized, and all those workers added to the unemployment and welfare
rolls? How deep and self destructive is your hatred?
> As long as he can print or borrow money and hand it out, he'll be deeply
> loved.
shows that it must be very little.
Jeff M
May 13, 2012, 9:28:36 PM5/13/12
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and I've known a few people who've gone to prison. I don't think
there's much discussion of political issues on the inside, although I
imagine the AB have a few things to say about Obama.
The Daring Dufas
May 13, 2012, 9:26:06 PM5/13/12
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the morons who are running things there. Oh yea, my neighbor is a
nice Negro American. Of course, you P.L.L.C.F. types will never admit
that The K.K.K. is a Democrat organization, started and populated by
members of The Democrat Party out of their hatred for Republicans and
other groups like Catholics, Jews and of course Negros. ^_^
A free clue, study history, it requires reading books not on the
P.L.L.C.F. prohibited list. o_O
TDD
Gunner Asch
May 13, 2012, 9:32:06 PM5/13/12
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On Sun, 13 May 2012 18:22:36 -0500, Al <albert.f...@gmail.com>
wrote:
What..you dont think that the country is worth the death of a few
thousand Leftwingers? Humm..make that a hundred thousand Leftwingers.
No biggy. Like taking out the trash and mowing the lawn.
Gunner
--
"The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry
capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency.
It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an
Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense
and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have
such a man for their? president.. Blaming the prince of the
fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of
fools that made him their prince".
wrote:
thousand Leftwingers? Humm..make that a hundred thousand Leftwingers.
No biggy. Like taking out the trash and mowing the lawn.
Gunner
--
"The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry
capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency.
It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an
Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense
and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have
such a man for their? president.. Blaming the prince of the
fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of
fools that made him their prince".
The Daring Dufas
May 13, 2012, 9:33:55 PM5/13/12
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On 5/13/2012 8:13 PM, Al wrote:
> In article<pdydnYsDf9DV1S3S...@giganews.com>,
Jeff and those of his ilk have the same mindset when it comes to
government. ^_^
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bg98BvqUvCc
This gal is adorable and most folks don't know what she's really about
which is why she's so funny:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tV8P-vib5n8
TDD
> In article<pdydnYsDf9DV1S3S...@giganews.com>,
government. ^_^
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bg98BvqUvCc
This gal is adorable and most folks don't know what she's really about
which is why she's so funny:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tV8P-vib5n8
TDD
The Daring Dufas
May 13, 2012, 9:37:03 PM5/13/12
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discuss the political views of the prisoners? ^_^
TDD
Jeff M
May 13, 2012, 9:42:40 PM5/13/12
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> Of course, you P.L.L.C.F. types will never admit
> that The K.K.K. is a Democrat organization, started and populated by
> members of The Democrat Party out of their hatred for Republicans and
> other groups like Catholics, Jews and of course Negros. ^_^
a long time ago. The Republicans decided to appeal to southern racist
democrats, i.e., Dixiecrats, who were appalled by the Democratic Party's
commitment to civil rights and racial equality. The Republicans were
quite successful in their effort to recruit racists disaffected with the
Democratic Party, which they termed their "Southern Strategy." The RNC
Chairman, in a brief moment of truth and candor, even confessed to it
and apologized for it.
> A free clue, study history, it requires reading books not on the
> P.L.L.C.F. prohibited list. o_O
indication.
Jeff M
May 13, 2012, 9:43:48 PM5/13/12
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On 5/13/2012 8:33 PM, The Daring Dufas wrote:
[snip]
[snip]
> Jeff and those of his ilk have the same mindset when it comes to
> government. ^_^
Ah, another wannabe mind reader!
> government. ^_^
Jeff M
May 13, 2012, 9:44:44 PM5/13/12
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Steve Rothstein
May 13, 2012, 9:51:00 PM5/13/12
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cannot be run at a profit should be allowed to go out of business. Yes,
that means some citizens end up unemployed and needing help. Our economy
was strong enough to help them. We could have used the same money we
gave to GM to help the employees instead.
And the important part is that the companies are still not sound and the
employees were still harmed. Chrysler has been bailed out before and was
still unable to make a profit. Why would any reasonable person think
they will learn from this bailout when they did not learn from the
previous ones? Why would we think GM management would learn from it
instead of learning to expect another bailout?
When will GM be stable and profitable again? When will the employees get
the same salaries, benefits, and jobs they all had before? Who will make
up the retirement pensions the stockholders lost when the government
confiscated their shares? Actually, I am not too worried about the
stockholders because they would have lost anyway, but the government
should not have been able to take it from them to give to others.
And before you argue that the jobs and products were needed, I will
point out that in our economy if a company is not profitable and goes
under, other companies will emerge to fill the need and the hole in the
marketplace.
>
>> As long as he can print or borrow money and hand it out, he'll be deeply
>> loved.
>
> What would you know or understand about such things? Your comments shows
> that it must be very little.
more than you seem to. By printing money, he is using popular shorthand
for running up the debt. By giving money out, he is referring to welfare
programs, both for individuals and corporations.
And yes, many of the citizens will vote for their personal interests
instead of what is really best for the country. It is much harder to
understand what is best for the country than what is best for me and
requires real sacrifice at time.
Steve Rothstein
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May 13, 2012, 10:02:20 PM5/13/12
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"Sanders Kaufman" <[bu...@kaufman.net]> wrote in message
news:2qOrr.10413$_l....@newsfe15.iad...
> "The End Of An Error" wrote in message
> news:X2G1H4ZW4104...@reece.net.au...
>
>> It is up to American voters to take out the other.
>
> It's a hoot to see how pissed off Republicans are that Obama killed bin
> Laden.
Sorry, but I have it on the firm claims of liberals that it's all Bush's
fault that bin Laden was killed.
After all, haven't you been blaming everything Obama did on Bush?
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May 13, 2012, 10:14:47 PM5/13/12
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either. I could even agree as a philosophical matter, but as a
practical matter, given the state of the economy at the time, and the
enormous scope of GM and its supply chain and dependent affiliates, and
the apparent success of the rescue, I think it turned out to be the
right decision.
> And the important part is that the companies are still not sound and the
> employees were still harmed. Chrysler has been bailed out before and was
> still unable to make a profit. Why would any reasonable person think
> they will learn from this bailout when they did not learn from the
> previous ones? Why would we think GM management would learn from it
> instead of learning to expect another bailout?
management was forced out as part of the deal.
> When will GM be stable and profitable again?
> When will the employees get
> the same salaries, benefits, and jobs they all had before?
> Who will make
> up the retirement pensions the stockholders lost when the government
> confiscated their shares? Actually, I am not too worried about the
> stockholders because they would have lost anyway, but the government
> should not have been able to take it from them to give to others.
> And before you argue that the jobs and products were needed, I will
> point out that in our economy if a company is not profitable and goes
> under, other companies will emerge to fill the need and the hole in the
> marketplace.
>>> As long as he can print or borrow money and hand it out, he'll be deeply
>>> loved.
>>
>> What would you know or understand about such things? Your comments shows
>> that it must be very little.
>
> Actually, his comment shows to me that he understands the system much
> more than you seem to. By printing money, he is using popular shorthand
> for running up the debt. By giving money out, he is referring to welfare
> programs, both for individuals and corporations.
> And yes, many of the citizens will vote for their personal interests
> instead of what is really best for the country. It is much harder to
> understand what is best for the country than what is best for me and
> requires real sacrifice at time.
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Jeff M
May 13, 2012, 10:22:41 PM5/13/12
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On 5/13/2012 9:16 PM, Deucalion wrote:
> Knowing their type, he probably will want you to represent him (at no
> charge of course).
Yeah, I used to get unsolicited letters from inmates all the time,
explaining how they are completely innocent and wanting me to help them
appeal or whatever. Some were actually rather convincing.
> charge of course).
Yeah, I used to get unsolicited letters from inmates all the time,
explaining how they are completely innocent and wanting me to help them
appeal or whatever. Some were actually rather convincing.
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May 13, 2012, 10:30:22 PM5/13/12
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Jeff M <NoS...@NoThanks.Org> wrote in
news:ZP6dnae4f9oByy3S...@giganews.com:
> On 5/13/2012 7:43 PM, Al wrote:
>> In article<XnsA052C676ED69AWe...@88.198.244.100>,
>> Gray Guest<No_email...@wahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Al<albert.f...@gmail.com> wrote in
>>> news:albert.finney000-94...@news.giganews.com:
>>>
>>>> In article<PVWrr.4236$4P3....@newsfe08.iad>,
>>>> "Sanders Kaufman"<[bu...@kaufman.net]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Jeff M" wrote in message
>>>>> news:F_ydnZ1G5ZfgYzLS...@giganews.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yep. And why not? He got the job done after Bush said he'd lost
>>>>>> interest in getting him. I think "Osama dead and GM alive" makes a
>>>>>> catchy campaign slogan.
>>>>>
>>>>> I like it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, a campaign slogan centered on death is a real winner.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Liberals are a death cult.
>>
>> Lots and lots of them are in jail.
>
> Most convicts are right-wing, if anything. I'd imagine most don't spare
> a thought for electoral politics of any kind, except maybe for maybe all
> the right-wing Aryan Brotherhood types.
>
Since the majority of convict are black it seems unikely. Especially since
crime is by it's very nature redistributionist.
And the AB types? They are only "right wing" because they make you piss
your pants. The sort of exterminaton they are on about, it takes a real
Marxist at heart to love that.
Face it, you are a deluded waste of nueral synapses.
--
I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit. It's the only way to
be sure.
What I like about this attitude is it works equally well for Iran and the
Democrat National Covention.
http://nukeitfromorbit.com/
news:ZP6dnae4f9oByy3S...@giganews.com:
> On 5/13/2012 7:43 PM, Al wrote:
>> In article<XnsA052C676ED69AWe...@88.198.244.100>,
>> Gray Guest<No_email...@wahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Al<albert.f...@gmail.com> wrote in
>>> news:albert.finney000-94...@news.giganews.com:
>>>
>>>> In article<PVWrr.4236$4P3....@newsfe08.iad>,
>>>> "Sanders Kaufman"<[bu...@kaufman.net]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Jeff M" wrote in message
>>>>> news:F_ydnZ1G5ZfgYzLS...@giganews.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yep. And why not? He got the job done after Bush said he'd lost
>>>>>> interest in getting him. I think "Osama dead and GM alive" makes a
>>>>>> catchy campaign slogan.
>>>>>
>>>>> I like it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, a campaign slogan centered on death is a real winner.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Liberals are a death cult.
>>
>> Lots and lots of them are in jail.
>
> Most convicts are right-wing, if anything. I'd imagine most don't spare
> a thought for electoral politics of any kind, except maybe for maybe all
> the right-wing Aryan Brotherhood types.
>
crime is by it's very nature redistributionist.
And the AB types? They are only "right wing" because they make you piss
your pants. The sort of exterminaton they are on about, it takes a real
Marxist at heart to love that.
Face it, you are a deluded waste of nueral synapses.
--
I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit. It's the only way to
be sure.
What I like about this attitude is it works equally well for Iran and the
Democrat National Covention.
http://nukeitfromorbit.com/
Al
May 13, 2012, 10:38:23 PM5/13/12
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In article <xoOdnY4feuPXwy3S...@giganews.com>,
union members choose not to support the unions, financially. So you have to
wonder if they're punching above their weight and how it works in your
interests.
> You'd have preferred that GM go down then?
There were a lot of options, Obama chose to set a constitutional precedent.
> You wanted to see probably
> hundreds of thousands of people lose their jobs, local and regional
> economies and tax bases devastated, our national economic recovery
> jeopardized, and all those workers added to the unemployment and welfare
> rolls? How deep and self destructive is your hatred?
Now I feel bad, but I'm still right.
> > As long as he can print or borrow money and hand it out, he'll be deeply
> > loved.
>
> What would you know or understand about such things? Your comments
> shows that it must be very little.
I can recommend a good proofreaders...
Jeff M <NoS...@NoThanks.Org> wrote:
> On 5/13/2012 8:13 PM, Al wrote:
> > In article<pdydnYsDf9DV1S3S...@giganews.com>,
> > Jeff M<NoS...@NoThanks.Org> wrote:
> >
> >> On 5/13/2012 6:22 PM, Al wrote:
> >>> In article<PVWrr.4236$4P3....@newsfe08.iad>,
> >>> "Sanders Kaufman"<[bu...@kaufman.net]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> "Jeff M" wrote in message
> >>>> news:F_ydnZ1G5ZfgYzLS...@giganews.com...
> >>>>
> >>>>> Yep. And why not? He got the job done after Bush said he'd lost
> >>>>> interest
> >>>>> in getting him. I think "Osama dead and GM alive" makes a catchy
> >>>>> campaign
> >>>>> slogan.
> >>>>
> >>>> I like it.
> >>>
> >>> Yeah, a campaign slogan centered on death is a real winner.
> >>
> >> Only half centered on death.
> >
> >
> > Yeah, the death half.
> >
> > I think it's great, they really should go with it, it's only half-stupid.
> >
> >> The other half is all about saving
> >> American industry and jobs.
> >
> >
> > Saved the Union jobs, government jobs. Obama is a Union President.
>
> You say that like it's a bad thing.
Unions don't represent a lot of people, and when given the choice, most
> On 5/13/2012 8:13 PM, Al wrote:
> > In article<pdydnYsDf9DV1S3S...@giganews.com>,
> > Jeff M<NoS...@NoThanks.Org> wrote:
> >
> >> On 5/13/2012 6:22 PM, Al wrote:
> >>> In article<PVWrr.4236$4P3....@newsfe08.iad>,
> >>> "Sanders Kaufman"<[bu...@kaufman.net]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> "Jeff M" wrote in message
> >>>> news:F_ydnZ1G5ZfgYzLS...@giganews.com...
> >>>>
> >>>>> Yep. And why not? He got the job done after Bush said he'd lost
> >>>>> interest
> >>>>> in getting him. I think "Osama dead and GM alive" makes a catchy
> >>>>> campaign
> >>>>> slogan.
> >>>>
> >>>> I like it.
> >>>
> >>> Yeah, a campaign slogan centered on death is a real winner.
> >>
> >> Only half centered on death.
> >
> >
> > Yeah, the death half.
> >
> > I think it's great, they really should go with it, it's only half-stupid.
> >
> >> The other half is all about saving
> >> American industry and jobs.
> >
> >
> > Saved the Union jobs, government jobs. Obama is a Union President.
>
> You say that like it's a bad thing.
union members choose not to support the unions, financially. So you have to
wonder if they're punching above their weight and how it works in your
interests.
> You'd have preferred that GM go down then?
> You wanted to see probably
> hundreds of thousands of people lose their jobs, local and regional
> economies and tax bases devastated, our national economic recovery
> jeopardized, and all those workers added to the unemployment and welfare
> rolls? How deep and self destructive is your hatred?
> > As long as he can print or borrow money and hand it out, he'll be deeply
> > loved.
>
> What would you know or understand about such things? Your comments
> shows that it must be very little.
Dakota
May 13, 2012, 10:46:08 PM5/13/12
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On 5/13/2012 7:52 PM, Jeff M wrote:
> On 5/13/2012 7:43 PM, Al wrote:
>> In article<XnsA052C676ED69AWe...@88.198.244.100>,
>> Gray Guest<No_email...@wahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Al<albert.f...@gmail.com> wrote in
>>> news:albert.finney000-94...@news.giganews.com:
>>>
>> In article<XnsA052C676ED69AWe...@88.198.244.100>,
>> Gray Guest<No_email...@wahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Al<albert.f...@gmail.com> wrote in
>>> news:albert.finney000-94...@news.giganews.com:
>>>
>>>> In article<PVWrr.4236$4P3....@newsfe08.iad>,
>>>> "Sanders Kaufman"<[bu...@kaufman.net]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Jeff M" wrote in message
>>>>> news:F_ydnZ1G5ZfgYzLS...@giganews.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yep. And why not? He got the job done after Bush said he'd lost
>>>>>> interest in getting him. I think "Osama dead and GM alive" makes a
>>>>>> catchy campaign slogan.
>>>>>
>>>>> I like it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, a campaign slogan centered on death is a real winner.
>>>>
>>>
>>>> "Sanders Kaufman"<[bu...@kaufman.net]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Jeff M" wrote in message
>>>>> news:F_ydnZ1G5ZfgYzLS...@giganews.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yep. And why not? He got the job done after Bush said he'd lost
>>>>>> interest in getting him. I think "Osama dead and GM alive" makes a
>>>>>> catchy campaign slogan.
>>>>>
>>>>> I like it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, a campaign slogan centered on death is a real winner.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Liberals are a death cult.
>>
>> Lots and lots of them are in jail.
>
> Most convicts are right-wing, if anything. I'd imagine most don't spare
> a thought for electoral politics of any kind, except maybe for maybe all
> the right-wing Aryan Brotherhood types.
I'd guess most of the liberals who are in jail were busted for marijuana.
>>
>> Lots and lots of them are in jail.
>
> Most convicts are right-wing, if anything. I'd imagine most don't spare
> a thought for electoral politics of any kind, except maybe for maybe all
> the right-wing Aryan Brotherhood types.
Dakota
May 13, 2012, 10:55:16 PM5/13/12
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On 5/13/2012 9:27 PM, Deucalion wrote:
> On Sun, 13 May 2012 21:22:41 -0500, Jeff M<NoS...@NoThanks.Org>
> The vast majority of them are very convincing unless you have spent
> some time with them and know how the game is played. Preying on
> innocents is what they do.
A friend of mine had been in the prison ministry when he first became an
ordained Lutheran minister. When I got to know him years later he told
me he had learned a great deal about himself and about humanity from the
convincing con men he met during his prison ministry. He far far less
gullible by the time we became friends.
> On Sun, 13 May 2012 21:22:41 -0500, Jeff M<NoS...@NoThanks.Org>
> some time with them and know how the game is played. Preying on
> innocents is what they do.
A friend of mine had been in the prison ministry when he first became an
ordained Lutheran minister. When I got to know him years later he told
me he had learned a great deal about himself and about humanity from the
convincing con men he met during his prison ministry. He far far less
gullible by the time we became friends.
Dakota
May 13, 2012, 10:59:45 PM5/13/12
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After Lyndon Johnson, a Democrat, signed the civil rights legislation in
the '60s, the racist south switched en masse to the Republican Party.
Oglethorpe
May 14, 2012, 1:16:30 AM5/14/12
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"Jeff M" <NoS...@NoThanks.Org> wrote in message
news:F_ydnZ1G5ZfgYzLS...@giganews.com...
> On 5/13/2012 11:20 AM, Frank wrote:
>> On 5/13/2012 9:11 AM, Sanders Kaufman wrote:
>>> "The End Of An Error" wrote in message
>>> news:X2G1H4ZW4104...@reece.net.au...
>>>
>>>> It is up to American voters to take out the other.
>>>
>>> It's a hoot to see how pissed off Republicans are that Obama killed bin
>>> Laden.
>>>
>> and he'll continue to kill him until the election ;)
>>> "The End Of An Error" wrote in message
>>> news:X2G1H4ZW4104...@reece.net.au...
>>>
>>>> It is up to American voters to take out the other.
>>>
>>> It's a hoot to see how pissed off Republicans are that Obama killed bin
>>> Laden.
>>>
>
> Yep. And why not?
Because Obama didn't kill him. Bin Laden was killed by the SEALs. Bin Laden
was found thanks to intel aquired by the Bush administration.
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May 13, 2012, 11:33:34 PM5/13/12
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On 5/14/2012 12:16 AM, Oglethorpe wrote:
[snip]
> Bin Laden was found thanks to intel aquired by the Bush administration.
Nope.
[snip]
> Bin Laden was found thanks to intel aquired by the Bush administration.
P. O. Snavely
May 13, 2012, 11:48:20 PM5/13/12
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In article <fp6dnWVY8KCF5C3S...@mchsi.com>
Obama doesn't mind taking credit for the good work of someone
else. He'll take credit for bad work too - as long as the odds
are he won't be caught.
else. He'll take credit for bad work too - as long as the odds
are he won't be caught.
The Daring Dufas
May 14, 2012, 12:29:54 AM5/14/12
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prison inmate. I suppose that won't happen if we can rid our country
of the Communists now in charge who are trying to do away with The
Constitution and Bill of Rights especially the right of free speech. ^_^
TDD
The Daring Dufas
May 14, 2012, 12:32:57 AM5/14/12
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On 5/13/2012 9:15 PM, Deucalion wrote:
>> TDD
>
> Perhaps a lot of you will get to spend more than one night at a prison
> after the failed (if it ever grows a set of balls) "Great Cull."
Depends on who you're culling? ^_^
TDD
>
> Perhaps a lot of you will get to spend more than one night at a prison
> after the failed (if it ever grows a set of balls) "Great Cull."
Depends on who you're culling? ^_^
TDD
The Daring Dufas
May 14, 2012, 12:42:21 AM5/14/12
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On 5/13/2012 9:08 PM, Deucalion wrote:
>
> If it makes any difference, I have, and he is indeed correct.
Darn! I guess that means there will be no Conservative majority, oh yea,
felons can't vote unless it's for a Democrat. I am puzzled by one
thing though, if all the convicts are Right Wing, how could the Negro
convicts support Obama? o_O
TDD
> On Sun, 13 May 2012 20:16:37 -0500, The Daring Dufas
> <the-dari...@stinky.net> wrote:
>
>> On 5/13/2012 7:52 PM, Jeff M wrote:
>>> On 5/13/2012 7:43 PM, Al wrote:
>>>> In article<XnsA052C676ED69AWe...@88.198.244.100>,
>>>> Gray Guest<No_email...@wahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Al<albert.f...@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>> news:albert.finney000-94...@news.giganews.com:
>>>>>
>>>>>> In article<PVWrr.4236$4P3....@newsfe08.iad>,
>>>>>> "Sanders Kaufman"<[bu...@kaufman.net]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Jeff M" wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:F_ydnZ1G5ZfgYzLS...@giganews.com...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yep. And why not? He got the job done after Bush said he'd lost
>>>>>>>> interest in getting him. I think "Osama dead and GM alive" makes a
>>>>>>>> catchy campaign slogan.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I like it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yeah, a campaign slogan centered on death is a real winner.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Liberals are a death cult.
>>>>
>>>> Lots and lots of them are in jail.
>>>
>>> Most convicts are right-wing, if anything. I'd imagine most don't spare
>>> a thought for electoral politics of any kind, except maybe for maybe all
>>> the right-wing Aryan Brotherhood types.
>>
>> You have personal experience with the prison population? ^_^
>>
>> TDD
> <the-dari...@stinky.net> wrote:
>
>> On 5/13/2012 7:52 PM, Jeff M wrote:
>>> On 5/13/2012 7:43 PM, Al wrote:
>>>> In article<XnsA052C676ED69AWe...@88.198.244.100>,
>>>> Gray Guest<No_email...@wahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Al<albert.f...@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>> news:albert.finney000-94...@news.giganews.com:
>>>>>
>>>>>> In article<PVWrr.4236$4P3....@newsfe08.iad>,
>>>>>> "Sanders Kaufman"<[bu...@kaufman.net]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Jeff M" wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:F_ydnZ1G5ZfgYzLS...@giganews.com...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yep. And why not? He got the job done after Bush said he'd lost
>>>>>>>> interest in getting him. I think "Osama dead and GM alive" makes a
>>>>>>>> catchy campaign slogan.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I like it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yeah, a campaign slogan centered on death is a real winner.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Liberals are a death cult.
>>>>
>>>> Lots and lots of them are in jail.
>>>
>>> Most convicts are right-wing, if anything. I'd imagine most don't spare
>>> a thought for electoral politics of any kind, except maybe for maybe all
>>> the right-wing Aryan Brotherhood types.
>>
>> You have personal experience with the prison population? ^_^
>>
>
> If it makes any difference, I have, and he is indeed correct.
Darn! I guess that means there will be no Conservative majority, oh yea,
felons can't vote unless it's for a Democrat. I am puzzled by one
thing though, if all the convicts are Right Wing, how could the Negro
convicts support Obama? o_O
TDD
The Daring Dufas
May 14, 2012, 12:49:13 AM5/14/12
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Alabamastan it's not The Southern Republicans who are the racists, I
know this for a fact because my father was a Southern Republican and
there's nothing "racist" about my family. ^_^
TDD
The Daring Dufas
May 14, 2012, 1:00:19 AM5/14/12
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>
>> Of course, you P.L.L.C.F. types will never admit
>
> I have no idea what your "P.L.L.C.F." is supposed to mean, if anything.
>
lot of typing when writing about you demented folks. ^_^
>> that The K.K.K. is a Democrat organization, started and populated by
>> members of The Democrat Party out of their hatred for Republicans and
>> other groups like Catholics, Jews and of course Negros. ^_^
>
> Indeed, the KKK and Southern Democrats were closely allied. But that's a
> long time ago. The Republicans decided to appeal to southern racist
> democrats, i.e., Dixiecrats, who were appalled by the Democratic Party's
> commitment to civil rights and racial equality. The Republicans were
> quite successful in their effort to recruit racists disaffected with the
> Democratic Party, which they termed their "Southern Strategy." The RNC
> Chairman, in a brief moment of truth and candor, even confessed to it
> and apologized for it.
expected of you P.L.L.C.F. who's main hobby is revisionist history.
>
>> A free clue, study history, it requires reading books not on the
>> P.L.L.C.F. prohibited list. o_O
>
> I have, and in far greater depth than you have, if your post here is any
> indication.
those of your ilk to question the intelligence of anyone they disagree
with. Keep posting your pretentious codswallop, you may some day exceed
Sanders in entertainment value. ^_^
TDD
The Daring Dufas
May 14, 2012, 1:03:12 AM5/14/12
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On 5/13/2012 8:51 PM, Steve Rothstein wrote:
> On 5/13/2012 8:25 PM, Jeff M wrote:
>> On 5/13/2012 8:13 PM, Al wrote:
>>> In article<pdydnYsDf9DV1S3S...@giganews.com>,
>>> Jeff M<NoS...@NoThanks.Org> wrote:
>>>
>> On 5/13/2012 8:13 PM, Al wrote:
>>> In article<pdydnYsDf9DV1S3S...@giganews.com>,
>>> Jeff M<NoS...@NoThanks.Org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5/13/2012 6:22 PM, Al wrote:
>>>>> In article<PVWrr.4236$4P3....@newsfe08.iad>,
>>>>>> news:F_ydnZ1G5ZfgYzLS...@giganews.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yep. And why not? He got the job done after Bush said he'd lost
>>>>>>> interest
>>>>>>> in getting him. I think "Osama dead and GM alive" makes a catchy
>>>>>>> campaign
>>>>>>> slogan.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I like it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah, a campaign slogan centered on death is a real winner.
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yep. And why not? He got the job done after Bush said he'd lost
>>>>>>> interest
>>>>>>> in getting him. I think "Osama dead and GM alive" makes a catchy
>>>>>>> campaign
>>>>>>> slogan.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I like it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah, a campaign slogan centered on death is a real winner.
>>>>
>>>> Only half centered on death.
>>>
>>>
>>> Yeah, the death half.
>>>
>>> I think it's great, they really should go with it, it's only
>>> half-stupid.
>>>
>>>> The other half is all about saving
>>>> American industry and jobs.
>>>
>>>
>>> Saved the Union jobs, government jobs. Obama is a Union President.
>>
>> You say that like it's a bad thing.
>>
>> You'd have preferred that GM go down then? You wanted to see probably
>>>
>>>
>>> Yeah, the death half.
>>>
>>> I think it's great, they really should go with it, it's only
>>> half-stupid.
>>>
>>>> The other half is all about saving
>>>> American industry and jobs.
>>>
>>>
>>> Saved the Union jobs, government jobs. Obama is a Union President.
>>
>> You say that like it's a bad thing.
>>
>> hundreds of thousands of people lose their jobs, local and regional
>> economies and tax bases devastated, our national economic recovery
>> jeopardized, and all those workers added to the unemployment and welfare
>> rolls? How deep and self destructive is your hatred?
>
>> economies and tax bases devastated, our national economic recovery
>> jeopardized, and all those workers added to the unemployment and welfare
>> rolls? How deep and self destructive is your hatred?
>
> Yes, GM should have gone under, as should Chrysler. Any business that
> cannot be run at a profit should be allowed to go out of business. Yes,
> that means some citizens end up unemployed and needing help. Our economy
> was strong enough to help them. We could have used the same money we
> gave to GM to help the employees instead.
>
> cannot be run at a profit should be allowed to go out of business. Yes,
> that means some citizens end up unemployed and needing help. Our economy
> was strong enough to help them. We could have used the same money we
> gave to GM to help the employees instead.
>
> And the important part is that the companies are still not sound and the
> employees were still harmed. Chrysler has been bailed out before and was
> still unable to make a profit. Why would any reasonable person think
> they will learn from this bailout when they did not learn from the
> previous ones? Why would we think GM management would learn from it
> instead of learning to expect another bailout?
>
> When will GM be stable and profitable again? When will the employees get
> employees were still harmed. Chrysler has been bailed out before and was
> still unable to make a profit. Why would any reasonable person think
> they will learn from this bailout when they did not learn from the
> previous ones? Why would we think GM management would learn from it
> instead of learning to expect another bailout?
>
> the same salaries, benefits, and jobs they all had before? Who will make
> up the retirement pensions the stockholders lost when the government
> confiscated their shares? Actually, I am not too worried about the
> stockholders because they would have lost anyway, but the government
> should not have been able to take it from them to give to others.
>
> confiscated their shares? Actually, I am not too worried about the
> stockholders because they would have lost anyway, but the government
> should not have been able to take it from them to give to others.
>
> And before you argue that the jobs and products were needed, I will
> point out that in our economy if a company is not profitable and goes
> under, other companies will emerge to fill the need and the hole in the
> marketplace.
>
>>
> point out that in our economy if a company is not profitable and goes
> under, other companies will emerge to fill the need and the hole in the
> marketplace.
>
>>
>>> As long as he can print or borrow money and hand it out, he'll be deeply
>>> loved.
>>
>> What would you know or understand about such things? Your comments shows
>> that it must be very little.
>
>>> loved.
>>
>> What would you know or understand about such things? Your comments shows
>> that it must be very little.
>
> Actually, his comment shows to me that he understands the system much
> more than you seem to. By printing money, he is using popular shorthand
> for running up the debt. By giving money out, he is referring to welfare
> programs, both for individuals and corporations.
>
> more than you seem to. By printing money, he is using popular shorthand
> for running up the debt. By giving money out, he is referring to welfare
> programs, both for individuals and corporations.
>
> And yes, many of the citizens will vote for their personal interests
> instead of what is really best for the country. It is much harder to
> understand what is best for the country than what is best for me and
> requires real sacrifice at time.
>
> Steve Rothstein
> instead of what is really best for the country. It is much harder to
> understand what is best for the country than what is best for me and
> requires real sacrifice at time.
>
I wonder how many Chevy Volt automobiles Jeff M. owns? ^_^
TDD
The Daring Dufas
May 14, 2012, 1:04:51 AM5/14/12
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On 5/13/2012 8:43 PM, Jeff M wrote:
> On 5/13/2012 8:33 PM, The Daring Dufas wrote:
> [snip]
>> Jeff and those of his ilk have the same mindset when it comes to
>> government. ^_^
>
> Ah, another wannabe mind reader!
Not mind reading, just an observation of P.L.L.C.F. behavior. ^_^
TDD
> On 5/13/2012 8:33 PM, The Daring Dufas wrote:
> [snip]
>> Jeff and those of his ilk have the same mindset when it comes to
>> government. ^_^
>
> Ah, another wannabe mind reader!
Not mind reading, just an observation of P.L.L.C.F. behavior. ^_^
TDD
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Jeff M
May 14, 2012, 1:14:19 AM5/14/12
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On 5/13/2012 11:29 PM, The Daring Dufas wrote:
[snip]
than anyone has in the last 50 years.
[snip]
> I've done some government work in certain facilities but never as a
> prison inmate. I suppose that won't happen if we can rid our country
> of the Communists now in charge who are trying to do away with The
> Constitution and Bill of Rights especially the right of free speech. ^_^
Oh, spare me. Republicans have done more to undermine the Constitution
> prison inmate. I suppose that won't happen if we can rid our country
> of the Communists now in charge who are trying to do away with The
> Constitution and Bill of Rights especially the right of free speech. ^_^
than anyone has in the last 50 years.
The Daring Dufas
May 14, 2012, 1:11:08 AM5/14/12
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On 5/14/2012 12:07 AM, Deucalion wrote:
> Bush took care of all those rights around a decade ago.
Really, you mean he just wrote an executive order negating The
Constitution? Darn! I,m surprised the P.L.L.C.F. isn't all over
Obama to fix that one. ^_^
TDD
Really, you mean he just wrote an executive order negating The
Constitution? Darn! I,m surprised the P.L.L.C.F. isn't all over
Obama to fix that one. ^_^
TDD
Jeff M
May 14, 2012, 1:15:33 AM5/14/12
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Jeff M
May 14, 2012, 1:22:23 AM5/14/12
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>>> that The K.K.K. is a Democrat organization, started and populated by
>>> members of The Democrat Party out of their hatred for Republicans and
>>> other groups like Catholics, Jews and of course Negros. ^_^
>>
>> Indeed, the KKK and Southern Democrats were closely allied. But that's a
>> long time ago. The Republicans decided to appeal to southern racist
>> democrats, i.e., Dixiecrats, who were appalled by the Democratic Party's
>> commitment to civil rights and racial equality. The Republicans were
>> quite successful in their effort to recruit racists disaffected with the
>> Democratic Party, which they termed their "Southern Strategy." The RNC
>> Chairman, in a brief moment of truth and candor, even confessed to it
>> and apologized for it.
>
> Of course you posted no link to such a prevarication but that's to be
> expected of you P.L.L.C.F. who's main hobby is revisionist history.
proof in any case. You can educate the ignorant, but there's no cure
for ignorant partisan foolishness.
>>> A free clue, study history, it requires reading books not on the
>>> P.L.L.C.F. prohibited list. o_O
>>
>> I have, and in far greater depth than you have, if your post here is any
>> indication.
>
> I doubt you have such a breadth of knowledge because it's common for
> those of your ilk to question the intelligence of anyone they disagree
> with. Keep posting your pretentious codswallop, you may some day exceed
> Sanders in entertainment value. ^_^
question of intelligence as of fundamental honesty v. blatant partisan
political spin.
Jeff M
May 14, 2012, 1:38:51 AM5/14/12
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programmed into you. Anyone who doesn't toe your party line must
therefore be what you've lamely labeled "P.L.L.C.F.," which is simply
the code that triggers your brain to shut down. As soon as anyone
contradicts your silly nonsense, whatever is left of your mind shuts off
and you lose it, start jumping to all sorts of arbitrary and ridiculous
conclusions, engaging in childish personal attacks, and demonstrating
how what passes for your "thinking" is all bound up in ignorant and
ridiculous partisan stereotypes like your "P.L.L.C.F.". Your
programmers must be very proud. They've stripped away whatever ability
you once had to think for yourself, free from the bias and spin your
thought leaders feed you. Now you can only think in terms of their
stereotypes, propaganda and bullshit that serve only to protect you from
ever accepting or even hearing the truth. You're helpless and pathetic.
Jeff M
May 14, 2012, 1:44:02 AM5/14/12
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On 5/14/2012 12:14 AM, Deucalion wrote:
> the Civil Rights Movement.
Remember, a big part of being a rightard is vigilantly maintaining
ignorance, steadfastly denying reality, and constantly revising history
like a Stalinist photo editor.
> On Mon, 14 May 2012 00:15:33 -0500, Jeff M<NoS...@NoThanks.Org>
> wrote:
>> On 5/13/2012 11:49 PM, The Daring Dufas wrote:
>[snip]
> wrote:
>> On 5/13/2012 11:49 PM, The Daring Dufas wrote:
>>>>>> that The K.K.K. is a Democrat organization, started and populated by
>>>>>> members of The Democrat Party out of their hatred for Republicans and
>>>>>> other groups like Catholics, Jews and of course Negros. ^_^
>>>>>
>>>>> Indeed, the KKK and Southern Democrats were closely allied. But that's a
>>>>> long time ago. The Republicans decided to appeal to southern racist
>>>>> democrats, i.e., Dixiecrats, who were appalled by the Democratic Party's
>>>>> commitment to civil rights and racial equality. The Republicans were
>>>>> quite successful in their effort to recruit racists disaffected with the
>>>>> Democratic Party, which they termed their "Southern Strategy." The RNC
>>>>> Chairman, in a brief moment of truth and candor, even confessed to it
>>>>> and apologized for it.
>>>>>
>>>>>> A free clue, study history, it requires reading books not on the
>>>>>> P.L.L.C.F. prohibited list. o_O
>>>>>
>>>>> I have, and in far greater depth than you have, if your post here is any
>>>>> indication.
>>>>
>>>> The racist south became Democrats because Lincoln was a Republican.
>>>> After Lyndon Johnson, a Democrat, signed the civil rights legislation in
>>>> the '60s, the racist south switched en masse to the Republican Party.
>>>
>>> I'm a son of The South boy, and that ain't exactly true. Here in
>>> Alabamastan it's not The Southern Republicans who are the racists, I
>>> know this for a fact because my father was a Southern Republican and
>>> there's nothing "racist" about my family. ^_^
>>
>> Uh huh.
>
> He must be a young southern boy if he can't remember segregation and
>>>>>> members of The Democrat Party out of their hatred for Republicans and
>>>>>> other groups like Catholics, Jews and of course Negros. ^_^
>>>>>
>>>>> Indeed, the KKK and Southern Democrats were closely allied. But that's a
>>>>> long time ago. The Republicans decided to appeal to southern racist
>>>>> democrats, i.e., Dixiecrats, who were appalled by the Democratic Party's
>>>>> commitment to civil rights and racial equality. The Republicans were
>>>>> quite successful in their effort to recruit racists disaffected with the
>>>>> Democratic Party, which they termed their "Southern Strategy." The RNC
>>>>> Chairman, in a brief moment of truth and candor, even confessed to it
>>>>> and apologized for it.
>>>>>
>>>>>> A free clue, study history, it requires reading books not on the
>>>>>> P.L.L.C.F. prohibited list. o_O
>>>>>
>>>>> I have, and in far greater depth than you have, if your post here is any
>>>>> indication.
>>>>
>>>> The racist south became Democrats because Lincoln was a Republican.
>>>> After Lyndon Johnson, a Democrat, signed the civil rights legislation in
>>>> the '60s, the racist south switched en masse to the Republican Party.
>>>
>>> I'm a son of The South boy, and that ain't exactly true. Here in
>>> Alabamastan it's not The Southern Republicans who are the racists, I
>>> know this for a fact because my father was a Southern Republican and
>>> there's nothing "racist" about my family. ^_^
>>
>> Uh huh.
>
> the Civil Rights Movement.
Remember, a big part of being a rightard is vigilantly maintaining
ignorance, steadfastly denying reality, and constantly revising history
like a Stalinist photo editor.
Dakota
May 14, 2012, 2:30:39 AM5/14/12
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anyone please enlighten me as to its meaning. Thanks in advance.
Gunner Asch
May 14, 2012, 4:29:46 AM5/14/12
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On Sun, 13 May 2012 20:16:37 -0500, The Daring Dufas
<the-dari...@stinky.net> wrote:
>On 5/13/2012 7:52 PM, Jeff M wrote:
>> On 5/13/2012 7:43 PM, Al wrote:
>>> In article<XnsA052C676ED69AWe...@88.198.244.100>,
>>> Gray Guest<No_email...@wahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Al<albert.f...@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>> news:albert.finney000-94...@news.giganews.com:
>>>>
>>>>> In article<PVWrr.4236$4P3....@newsfe08.iad>,
<the-dari...@stinky.net> wrote:
>On 5/13/2012 7:52 PM, Jeff M wrote:
>> On 5/13/2012 7:43 PM, Al wrote:
>>> In article<XnsA052C676ED69AWe...@88.198.244.100>,
>>> Gray Guest<No_email...@wahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Al<albert.f...@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>> news:albert.finney000-94...@news.giganews.com:
>>>>
>>>>> In article<PVWrr.4236$4P3....@newsfe08.iad>,
>>>>>> news:F_ydnZ1G5ZfgYzLS...@giganews.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yep. And why not? He got the job done after Bush said he'd lost
>>>>>>> interest in getting him. I think "Osama dead and GM alive" makes a
>>>>>>> catchy campaign slogan.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I like it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah, a campaign slogan centered on death is a real winner.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Liberals are a death cult.
>>>
>>> Lots and lots of them are in jail.
>>
>> Most convicts are right-wing, if anything. I'd imagine most don't spare
>> a thought for electoral politics of any kind, except maybe for maybe all
>> the right-wing Aryan Brotherhood types.
>
>You have personal experience with the prison population? ^_^
>
>TDD
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yep. And why not? He got the job done after Bush said he'd lost
>>>>>>> interest in getting him. I think "Osama dead and GM alive" makes a
>>>>>>> catchy campaign slogan.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I like it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah, a campaign slogan centered on death is a real winner.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Liberals are a death cult.
>>>
>>> Lots and lots of them are in jail.
>>
>> Most convicts are right-wing, if anything. I'd imagine most don't spare
>> a thought for electoral politics of any kind, except maybe for maybe all
>> the right-wing Aryan Brotherhood types.
>
>You have personal experience with the prison population? ^_^
>
Odd that Jeffy calls all those imprisoned Democrats rightwingers isnt
it?
--
"The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry
capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency.
It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an
Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense
and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have
such a man for their? president.. Blaming the prince of the
fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of
fools that made him their prince".
Gunner Asch
May 14, 2012, 4:30:55 AM5/14/12
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On Sun, 13 May 2012 23:32:57 -0500, The Daring Dufas
And it really depends on if it fails.....<VBG>
Gunner
Gunner
Gunner Asch
May 14, 2012, 4:32:22 AM5/14/12
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On Sun, 13 May 2012 23:42:21 -0500, The Daring Dufas
Given that 58% of the prison population is currently Negro, with another
32% being Latino...its interesting that the buffoon is claiming that
they are all rightwingers.
Snicker!!!
32% being Latino...its interesting that the buffoon is claiming that
they are all rightwingers.
Snicker!!!
The Daring Dufas
May 14, 2012, 4:50:52 AM5/14/12
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On 5/14/2012 12:15 AM, Deucalion wrote:
> On Mon, 14 May 2012 00:11:08 -0500, The Daring Dufas
> Are you playing stupid, or does it come natural?
Well, you made a STUPID statement so I thought I'd respond in kind. ^_^
TDD
> On Mon, 14 May 2012 00:11:08 -0500, The Daring Dufas
Well, you made a STUPID statement so I thought I'd respond in kind. ^_^
TDD
The Daring Dufas
May 14, 2012, 4:54:22 AM5/14/12
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Security has gotten a lot worse under Obama. Darn, the TSA didn't start
fondling grandma until The Lesbian took over Homeland Security. ^_^
TDD
The Daring Dufas
May 14, 2012, 4:57:16 AM5/14/12
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On 5/14/2012 12:10 AM, Deucalion wrote:
> On Sun, 13 May 2012 23:42:21 -0500, The Daring Dufas
> Since the felons can't vote, they can't support Obama with their vote.
> You know, I've never seen any Mormon services in prison, but they must
> be there. Some inmates have multiple prison wives. How will they
> support the Republican presidential candidate?
Don't know but The Muslims are very active in the prisons and they have
multiple wives. Heck, they'll even sacrifice a wife or two by strapping
bombs to them as needed. ^_^
TDD
> On Sun, 13 May 2012 23:42:21 -0500, The Daring Dufas
> You know, I've never seen any Mormon services in prison, but they must
> be there. Some inmates have multiple prison wives. How will they
> support the Republican presidential candidate?
Don't know but The Muslims are very active in the prisons and they have
multiple wives. Heck, they'll even sacrifice a wife or two by strapping
bombs to them as needed. ^_^
TDD
The Daring Dufas
May 14, 2012, 4:58:40 AM5/14/12
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TDD
The Daring Dufas
May 14, 2012, 4:59:34 AM5/14/12
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TDD
Unknown
May 14, 2012, 5:13:38 AM5/14/12
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"The Daring Dufas" wrote in message news:jopkom$168$1...@dont-email.me...
> Both Democrats and Republicans have fed at that trough.
Times have changed - Dems haven't started any wars since before most of us
alive today were ever born.
Why are all your "facts" from like 1969?
Is the senility getting THAT bad for you?
You know - taking all those pain pills only aggravates the situation.
Your "doctor" told you that, right?
Did he tell you about "impaired cognition" and "psychotic breaks" when
someone our age can't get off the dope?
And that's just the ride down - the end is gonna be brutal.
Hendrix and Joplin were tougher than you, and look what it got them.
Just say no, man - just say, no.
> Both Democrats and Republicans have fed at that trough.
Times have changed - Dems haven't started any wars since before most of us
alive today were ever born.
Why are all your "facts" from like 1969?
Is the senility getting THAT bad for you?
You know - taking all those pain pills only aggravates the situation.
Your "doctor" told you that, right?
Did he tell you about "impaired cognition" and "psychotic breaks" when
someone our age can't get off the dope?
And that's just the ride down - the end is gonna be brutal.
Hendrix and Joplin were tougher than you, and look what it got them.
Just say no, man - just say, no.
Unknown
May 14, 2012, 5:19:26 AM5/14/12
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"Al" wrote in message
news:albert.finney000-69...@news.giganews.com...
> "Sanders Kaufman" <[bu...@kaufman.net]> wrote:
>> It worked for Eisenhower.
> You liked Ike?
Wow, you're like a case study in retarded development.
That question has nothing to do with the subject - but you felt compelled to
mention it.
Do you know why you felt compelled to mention it?
It's because you're very, very simple-minded and the slogan is a catchy one.
So like Pavlov's dog, someone says Ike, and you gotta say something about
the slogan.
You totally lost the thread, and just spit that out like an orgasmic
reaction.
Don't feel bad though - it's not your fault.
Smart people worked hard to come up with a slogan that would be THAT
effective against simple minds.
So, you never really stood a chance against their manipulation.
That said, do you remember what we were talking about before you got
sidetracked.
Would you like to continue that discussion or are you just too flustered to
go on?
news:albert.finney000-69...@news.giganews.com...
> "Sanders Kaufman" <[bu...@kaufman.net]> wrote:
>> It worked for Eisenhower.
> You liked Ike?
Wow, you're like a case study in retarded development.
That question has nothing to do with the subject - but you felt compelled to
mention it.
Do you know why you felt compelled to mention it?
It's because you're very, very simple-minded and the slogan is a catchy one.
So like Pavlov's dog, someone says Ike, and you gotta say something about
the slogan.
You totally lost the thread, and just spit that out like an orgasmic
reaction.
Don't feel bad though - it's not your fault.
Smart people worked hard to come up with a slogan that would be THAT
effective against simple minds.
So, you never really stood a chance against their manipulation.
That said, do you remember what we were talking about before you got
sidetracked.
Would you like to continue that discussion or are you just too flustered to
go on?
The Daring Dufas
May 14, 2012, 5:22:14 AM5/14/12
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On 5/14/2012 12:14 AM, Deucalion wrote:
> On Mon, 14 May 2012 00:15:33 -0500, Jeff M<NoS...@NoThanks.Org>
> wrote:
>
> On Mon, 14 May 2012 00:15:33 -0500, Jeff M<NoS...@NoThanks.Org>
> wrote:
>
> He must be a young southern boy if he can't remember segregation and
> the Civil Rights Movement.
I lived it you P.L.L.C.F. moron. I rode the city bus to get to the
> the Civil Rights Movement.
Catholic Parochial Gulag and all the Negroes rode on the back of the
bus. There were separate restrooms and water fountains for The Negroes
among other things. My best pal was a Black kid a block away and his
street was dirt while mine was paved. My Southern Republican ancestors
were abolitionists you bigoted racist and we had Colored folks at my
home all the time. When the racial strife started way back then, my
Negro pal and me didn't see much of each other and couldn't understand
why our mothers didn't want us hanging around together. Of course that
was a half century ago and we were just kids so what did we understand
about life and politics? ^_^
TDD
The Daring Dufas
May 14, 2012, 5:25:48 AM5/14/12
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complete disconnect from reality and the mistaken assertion that you
possess superior intelligence. Keep it up, it's quite entertaining. ^_^
TDD
The Daring Dufas
May 14, 2012, 5:29:36 AM5/14/12
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keep believing I'm a Republican when in fact Republicans disgust me but
Democrats are special, they horrify me. ^_^
TDD
The Daring Dufas
May 14, 2012, 5:32:54 AM5/14/12
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lot of typing when describing a bigoted racist like Jeffry. ^_^
TDD
The Daring Dufas
May 14, 2012, 5:37:24 AM5/14/12
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that Democrats haven't started any wars in recent memory. Your brain
must really be fried. ^_^
TDD
emoneyjoe
May 14, 2012, 5:47:17 AM5/14/12
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>>> Of course, you P.L.L.C.F. types will never admit
>>
>> I have no idea what your "P.L.L.C.F." is supposed to mean, if anything.
>>
>>
>> I have no idea what your "P.L.L.C.F." is supposed to mean, if anything.
>>
>>> that The K.K.K. is a Democrat organization, started and populated by
>>> members of The Democrat Party out of their hatred for Republicans and
>>> other groups like Catholics, Jews and of course Negros. ^_^
>>
>> Indeed, the KKK and Southern Democrats were closely allied. But that's a
>> long time ago. The Republicans decided to appeal to southern racist
>> democrats, i.e., Dixiecrats, who were appalled by the Democratic Party's
>> commitment to civil rights and racial equality. The Republicans were
>> quite successful in their effort to recruit racists disaffected with the
>> Democratic Party, which they termed their "Southern Strategy." The RNC
>> Chairman, in a brief moment of truth and candor, even confessed to it
>> and apologized for it.
>>
>>> members of The Democrat Party out of their hatred for Republicans and
>>> other groups like Catholics, Jews and of course Negros. ^_^
>>
>> Indeed, the KKK and Southern Democrats were closely allied. But that's a
>> long time ago. The Republicans decided to appeal to southern racist
>> democrats, i.e., Dixiecrats, who were appalled by the Democratic Party's
>> commitment to civil rights and racial equality. The Republicans were
>> quite successful in their effort to recruit racists disaffected with the
>> Democratic Party, which they termed their "Southern Strategy." The RNC
>> Chairman, in a brief moment of truth and candor, even confessed to it
>> and apologized for it.
>>
>>> A free clue, study history, it requires reading books not on the
>>> P.L.L.C.F. prohibited list. o_O
>>
>> I have, and in far greater depth than you have, if your post here is any
>> indication.
>
>>> P.L.L.C.F. prohibited list. o_O
>>
>> I have, and in far greater depth than you have, if your post here is any
>> indication.
>
>The racist south became Democrats because Lincoln was a Republican.
>After Lyndon Johnson, a Democrat, signed the civil rights legislation in
>the '60s, the racist south switched en masse to the Republican Party.
If that in some way means you think it is supposed
>After Lyndon Johnson, a Democrat, signed the civil rights legislation in
>the '60s, the racist south switched en masse to the Republican Party.
to demean all republicans, you are confused.
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