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From: "Chris Diesel" <die...@no.real.address.com.au>
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"B J Foster" <bjfos...@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote in message 
news:jmslgj$bkk$4@bjf.motzarella.org...
> On 21/04/2012 3:06 AM, Chris Diesel wrote:
>>    1.. Most Greens ministers are ineligible for firearms licences. Any
>> applicant for a licence requires a clear criminal history (fair enough) 
>> and
>> a surprisingly (well, not surprisingly. how 'bout worryingly) large 
>> number
>> of Greens ministers have arrest records, many with convictions. Just
>> something to think about.
>
> Filed for future reference.

Yeah, I thought it was very good too.

> How many of them have driver's licenses BTW?

Not many I hope. If their logic is as bad is DS, then they might pose a 
serious risk to other road users.

While on the subject of drivers licences. I thought this posted comment is 
relevant at this time.

The Greens could propose a revamp of the current requirements around motor 
vehicle ownership and usage.

1. We introduce a new licensing scheme in which in person wanting to obtain 
a motor vehicle licence must pass a strict police and background check.

2. Once the aforementioned person is deemed fit and proper by the check, the 
applicant must then attend and pass an approved training course on the use 
of the vehicle, this would be different to the current scheme in which an 
applicant books his or her test, drives and passes, thus gaining the 
licence.

3. On successful completion of the training course the applicant must then 
send all there paper work into the police for final approval.

4. If the applicant is then granted a motor vehicle licence, He or She will 
then have to apply to the Police for a permit to acquire (PTA) a motor 
vehicle, complete with a genuine reason for owning the motor vehicle as well 
as proof of safe storage of the motor vehicle. If this is the first motor 
vehicle on the licence there will need to be a mandatory 28 day waiting 
period, also known as a "cooling off period"

5. If the PTA is then granted the applicant must only be able purchase a 
motor vehicle through a licensed motor vehicle dealer.

Now lets move on to safe storage of the motor vehicle.

1. The motor vehicle must be kept inside an approved locked garage, so as 
not to be stolen for use in a drive-by.

2. The stored motor vehicle must have the ignition removed and stored in a 
locked separate location.

3. Any fuel in the vehicle must also be removed and stored in an approved 
lockable container with appropriate Danger signs warning of explosive 
liquids and to keep sources of ignition away.

4. Only the person holding a valid motor vehicle license should have access 
to the garage.

You could also introduce a category system for motor vehicles. Something 
akin to the current firearm categories;

Cat A & B vehicles could be ones that can only go as fast as 120Km/hr.
Cat C vehicles could be vehicles that can go faster than 120Km/hr and can 
only be approved to licences that have at least 40acres plus of private race 
track, the Cat C vehicle can also never be removed from that property.

We would also have to penalise persons wanting to keep collectors cars, the 
engine must be removed or made permanently inoperable and the exhaust welded 
closed at the end so that it may never be used in a drive-by.

The Greens would also need to organise a buy back, destruction and ban of 
import of all Hummer branded vehicles in Australia as they are "military 
like in appearance" and may scare the public.

Thank you for taking the time to read my submission. I hope that by 
penalising the law abiding motor vehicle owner that we can stop these 
drive-by shootings once and for all.